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Perhaps undercompensation?
I think it's a matter of overcompensating, because so many of the criminal activities have to do with trying to prove how macho they are. God forbid someone call a guy a sissy unless they shoot a cop, or do something else insanely stupid.

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I'm gonna try one, Bob...when their back instock.
I bought 3 of them.
One for wifes friend, one for my brother and one for me.
All have worked fine.
Not the sturdiest thing but the wifes friends one has worked fine for most of a year. Made it thru all 4 seasons here in KY.
comes with 75 or 100 ft of RG56 coax.
You will need a pole.
A 20 ft piece of chainlink fence toprail works nicely.
 

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I bought 3 of them.
One for wifes friend, one for my brother and one for me.
All have worked fine.
Not the sturdiest thing but the wifes friends one has worked fine for most of a year. Made it thru all 4 seasons here in KY.
comes with 75 or 100 ft of RG56 coax.
You will need a pole.
A 20 ft piece of chainlink fence toprail works nicely.
My roof is about 20 ft high...u mean another 20 on top of that?
 

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Yep it claims up to 145? miles but I think more like 75 maybe. Works ok has a built in amplifier and rotor.
Then it wouldn't do any more than my standard antique antenna. There are only three broadcast channels (ABC, NBC, CBS) about 65 miles (as the bird flies, 105 by road) and I don't want to watch any of those. The next nearest broadcast station is about 300 miles from here. I thought seriously about internet TV (I'm on high speed DSL), but my TV is not internet compatible and I do not want to be forced to sit in front of this damn computer to watch a movie. We have about a hundred VHS tapes and 200 DVDs, so that is where most of our entertainment comes from. I only pay for DISH to get the occasional news and some really old TV shows we don't have on tape (though it would probably be cheaper to buy the entire MASH series on DVD than one or two months of DISH payments).
 

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My roof is about 20 ft high...u mean another 20 on top of that?
Depends on where you are and your surroundings.
a line of sight to the TV station or close to it is best for reception.
Signal does bounce around a bit so line of sight is not absolutely necessary.

ALSO you MUST have a TV with a digital tuner not the older ones.
Most flat screen LCD ones have digital tuners.
 

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My roof is about 20 ft high...u mean another 20 on top of that?
High enough to clear the obstructions between you and the transmission towers. Generally, if you just mount it on a roof, your neighbor's roof will interfere. If there is a hill between you and the transmission towers, aim at the top of that hill. Line of sight works best, but there is ever such a slight bending of the signal (depends also on atmospheric conditions). We are in a slight depression (low hills all around) and you can't get more than one bar on your cell phone here, so my antique antenna is mounted quite high (with lightning ground just in case).

EDIT: Oh, I see Crom just said pretty much the same thing... Sigh.
 

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Morning all. I'm on my second cup of coffee, been up since about 3, so I need many, many more cups.

Have to say that I'm a little bit obsessed with the DIY thing. It's been a long time since anything lit up my imagination like this. Having a hard time concentrating on my work because of it. I've had a flood of ideas for recipes, can't possibly try them all any time soon, and my mind just keeps clicking right along, with or without my permission. :eek:

Hope everyone is well this morning and feeling not-cranky. :p
 

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Speaking of TV I seen the craziest thing today that reflects the stupidity of the younger generation today. They are sticking a condom up their nose and snorting it as hard as they can till it comes out their mouth, this is the stupidest thing I have seen and these are the future generation that are going to some day run this country. This was on the news.

After my wife's Mom died we had a chance to look at a scrapbook of newspaper clippings she had from a relative from back in the mid to late 1800's. What surprised me the most were the articles complaining about the youth of the day, how irresponsible they were, how they were doing dumb things just to rebel and how the future looked pretty grim once they would be in charge.

It really brought home to me that it's always been this way and will very likely always be. I've never forgotten that and the perspective it gave me makes me a lot less negative about it all today :)
 

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I did more than my share of stupid stuff when I was a teenager. My mother didn't want to know. She pretty much ignored me.

I'm really proud of every one of my grandchildren. They range in age from 5 to 20. The young people I work with are a different sort of animal, but even they aren't as useless as a lot of people might think.

I do think that our educational system leaves a lot to be desired these days, and kids really aren't well prepared when they get out of school, whether it's high school or college (not talking about graduate-level college). Even without the involvement of my parents, and even with all the stupid stuff I did, when I left high school, I could write a coherent paragraph, spell properly, and I had a good understanding of math/algebra/English/reading, etc.
 

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Morning all. I'm on my second cup of coffee, been up since about 3, so I need many, many more cups.

Have to say that I'm a little bit obsessed with the DIY thing. It's been a long time since anything lit up my imagination like this. Having a hard time concentrating on my work because of it. I've had a flood of ideas for recipes, can't possibly try them all any time soon, and my mind just keeps clicking right along, with or without my permission. :eek:

Hope everyone is well this morning and feeling not-cranky. :p

Good morning nadalama :). Seems like we're the only ones here yet.

I got pretty into DIY when I started making juice too. I think it's all the possibilities and it's really fun too. These days I'm pretty boring. I cleaned out some old flavoring the other day that were a few years old and I think I'm down to about 10 now. At least 90% of the time I vape one flavor and the rest of the time it's only slight variations of that ADV. Works for me though :)
 

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I'm really proud of every one of my grandchildren. They range in age from 5 to 20. The young people I work with are a different sort of animal, but even they aren't as useless as a lot of people might think.

Yup, I think we're going to be OK :)

Well, we're getting a wind storm, up to 55 mph shortly. I'm headed outside to make sure everything is battened down and then pick up my wife. She's dropping her car off at the garage for some maintenance.

Have a good one :cool:
 

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High enough to clear the obstructions between you and the transmission towers. Generally, if you just mount it on a roof, your neighbor's roof will interfere. If there is a hill between you and the transmission towers, aim at the top of that hill. Line of sight works best, but there is ever such a slight bending of the signal (depends also on atmospheric conditions). We are in a slight depression (low hills all around) and you can't get more than one bar on your cell phone here, so my antique antenna is mounted quite high (with lightning ground just in case).

EDIT: Oh, I see Crom just said pretty much the same thing... Sigh.
But you said it so much better than I.
 

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Why block porn?
You're missing Stormy Daniels
:popcorn:

I could say something, but I won't.

Well, yes I will. Just one thing. More people in the US watched the 60 Minutes interview than watched the Inauguration.
 

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I do think that our educational system leaves a lot to be desired these days, and kids really aren't well prepared when they get out of school
The educational system sucks today, and is primarily used to indoctrinate our children into the beliefs the teachers want them to have, regardless of truth.

And how much they learn... well, the end of the year test to graduate from elementary school in the late 1800s had questions tough enough that college grads today cannot answer. Just watch any of those "on the street" type shows and you'll find that hardly anyone younger than about 50-60 even has a clue what the U.S. Constitution is about. And even the few who can [approximately] recite one of the amendments has no clue what the founders meant (some shit about we should interpret it differently today). Oh my ass! Go get a job snowflakes! Stop making your parents pay $30,000 a year so you can party and learn not a damn thing.

Yes, Dale was right... this should be named "Cranky Old Pharts Club."
 

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I could say something, but I won't.

Well, yes I will. Just one thing. More people in the US watched the 60 Minutes interview than watched the Inauguration.
I was being sarcastic.
I didn't watch it myself because 60 minutes has went downhill and this Trump/Daniels soap opera doesn't interest me.
Hell, all TV programming actually has been going downhill.
I grew up in a time when TV's were only B&W and the programming was much better.
 

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The educational system sucks today, and is primarily used to indoctrinate our children into the beliefs the teachers want them to have, regardless of truth.

And how much they learn... well, the end of the year test to graduate from elementary school in the late 1800s had questions tough enough that college grads today cannot answer. Just watch any of those "on the street" type shows and you'll find that hardly anyone younger than about 50-60 even has a clue what the U.S. Constitution is about. And even the few who can [approximately] recite one of the amendments has no clue what the founders meant (some shit about we should interpret it differently today). Oh my ass! Go get a job snowflakes! Stop making your parents pay $30,000 a year so you can party and learn not a damn thing.

Yes, Dale was right... this should be named "Cranky Old Pharts Club."
Went to a BBQ a friend was having a few years ago.
He had a bunch of people there including a lot of his daughters friends who were around 20 years old or so.
Had a girl come up to me and asked what I did for a living.
Told her I was working in Afghanistan as a contractor (which I was at the time)
She asked me where Afghanistan was at. I told her it was between Iraq and Pakistan.
She didn't know where they were either. Said she was too busy to know such things.
And yes, she is in college!
 

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Better or just less bad?
Humans also took a lot less to entertain them back them.
A stick and a rock and I could play for hours.
Now it requires about $1k of electronics stuff to keep a kid occupied for hours....
Less bad, Crom. But we didn't know it because the whole concept was so new to us, so as far as we were concerned, TV was great. And, to some extent, I suspect the snowflakes of today think it is great too, because they have nothing to compare it to. If even they watch a rerun of some old show, they think, "How boring! No one is getting shot, blown up, raped, or eaten by zombies."
 

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"How boring! No one is getting shot, blown up, raped, or eaten by zombies."

some seem to enjoy watching others suffer.
Not me.
My wife however likes those types of shows where people suffer. CSI, and those other cop shows and dramas where people are suffering. Heck I never even cared for Quincy or Heck Ramsey...
Soaps are all about people backstabbing each other , scheming, and suffering.
And most mainstream TV now is just soaps.
She is not too big on the zombies though...

zombie ammo.jpg

and that IS a real product not a joke..

Well it is a joke but....
 

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And TV has always been full of manipulating deceitful characters.
I always just wanted to kill Lucy (of the I Love Lucy show). Not our Lucy as she is a straight shooter.
the Honeymooners? All in the Family, etc.
Humans have been programmed to be manipulating and deceitful.

I deal straight up and do not like those who do not.
 

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And TV has always been full of manipulating deceitful characters.
I always just wanted to kill Lucy (of the I Love Lucy show). Not our Lucy as she is a straight shooter.
the Honeymooners? All in the Family, etc.
Humans have been programmed to be manipulating and deceitful.

I deal straight up and do not like those who do not.
Survivor is one of the shows in which everyone has to be manipulating and deceitful. Bunch is backstabbing ass hats!

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Survivor is one of the shows in which everyone has to be manipulating and deceitful. Bunch is backstabbing ass hats!

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yeah my sister tried to get me to watch that show. Could not make it thru one episode.
And The apprentice and most 'reality' shows really suck in my opinion.
I liked a couple for the first season. The Chopper one for instance then they threw in all the drama and conflict and fake deadlines, etc.
Same with the pawn shop one. Started out pretty good and then went to shit.
 

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I’m a action thriller and drama show kind of guy..but once it’s blatantly flawed I lose interest.. say someone gets shot in the right arm and the next science it’s his left..
 

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some seem to enjoy watching others suffer.
Not me.
Soaps are all about people backstabbing each other , scheming, and suffering.
And most mainstream TV now is just soaps.
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Total agreement, Crom. I made a statement some time ago that I do not watch anything that revolves around violence (whether war, cops, murder, wife beating, etc.), then I started paying more attention to those that I did watch, and a lot of them also have violence, but it is a "bang you're dead" type (ala John Wayne) without portraying that violence as something great (blood and body parts flying around the room, several minutes of computer graphics while a whole building (or city) is wiped off the face of the map.). There were very few shows after the 1960s that didn't have some sort of violence. Even the original Star Crock had to have someone die in nearly every episode (either a red shirt or an alien). I don't remember any violence from Happy Days, Father Knows Best, the Life of Riley, etc., though occasionally there was a threat of violence (clean your room or I'm gonna spank you).
 

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Total agreement, Crom. I made a statement some time ago that I do not watch anything that revolves around violence (whether war, cops, murder, wife beating, etc.), then I started paying more attention to those that I did watch, and a lot of them also have violence, but it is a "bang you're dead" type (ala John Wayne) without portraying that violence as something great (blood and body parts flying around the room, several minutes of computer graphics while a whole building (or city) is wiped off the face of the map.). There were very few shows after the 1960s that didn't have some sort of violence. Even the original Star Crock had to have someone die in nearly every episode (either a red shirt or an alien). I don't remember any violence from Happy Days, Father Knows Best, the Life of Riley, etc., though occasionally there was a threat of violence (clean your room or I'm gonna spank you).
Plenty of threats of violence in Leave it to Beaver.

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Total agreement, Crom. I made a statement some time ago that I do not watch anything that revolves around violence (whether war, cops, murder, wife beating, etc.), then I started paying more attention to those that I did watch, and a lot of them also have violence, but it is a "bang you're dead" type (ala John Wayne) without portraying that violence as something great (blood and body parts flying around the room, several minutes of computer graphics while a whole building (or city) is wiped off the face of the map.). There were very few shows after the 1960s that didn't have some sort of violence. Even the original Star Crock had to have someone die in nearly every episode (either a red shirt or an alien). I don't remember any violence from Happy Days, Father Knows Best, the Life of Riley, etc., though occasionally there was a threat of violence (clean your room or I'm gonna spank you).
Ahh to be a 'Red Shirt' in Star Trek.. LOL

Yes but there is violence as in the bang you're dead type and the kind that focuses on the violent acts and the blood and gore. Then shows the victim stretched out on an autopsy table in all their blood and gory.
And even those that attempt to glorify the violence or even make it humorous. As in Pulp fiction for example. My wife dragged me to that one. I left her sitting in the theater after not much of it and waited in the car.
 

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I was being sarcastic.
I didn't watch it myself because 60 minutes has went downhill and this Trump/Daniels soap opera doesn't interest me.
Hell, all TV programming actually has been going downhill.
I grew up in a time when TV's were only B&W and the programming was much better.

I know you were being sarcastic. In response, I was pointing out how people eat that ridiculous shit right up.
 

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Plenty of threats of violence in Leave it to Beaver.
I seldom watched that even when it was first run, but a threat of "I'm gonna beat the snot outta you" is a far cry from the blood and gore of today, in which it appears all the characters seem to love it. Yuck.
Then shows the victim stretched out on an autopsy table in all their blood and gory.
And even those that attempt to glorify the violence or even make it humorous. As in Pulp fiction for example. My wife dragged me to that one. I left her sitting in the theater after not much of it and waited in the car.
I don't do cop shows, which eliminates all mortuary scenes. Funny, all the while I wore that blue uniform and badge, I didn't even know where the mortuary was in Bend, OR.

Pulp Fiction... I tried to watch it once a zillion years ago and never made it all the way through. But, as much as the violence sucked, the use of the word 'Fuck" in every sentence put me off.
 

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My opinion only, of course, but I think there are good TV shows and movies out there, you just have to get very far away from network programming to find them.

A dramatic series like "Bloodline" on Netflix, or "The Big C" on Showtime - those shows were really good. There are many like that, but you have to wade through a lot of bullshit to find them.

There are even a few with blood and gore (and profanity, and sex) that I've thought were great. "Dexter" on Showtime is one example, or "The Sopranos" on HBO.

Everybody likes something different. You'd have to pay me to get me to sit through an episode of "Happy Days."
 

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I seldom watched that even when it was first run, but a threat of "I'm gonna beat the snot outta you" is a far cry from the blood and gore of today, in which it appears all the characters seem to love it. Yuck.

I don't do cop shows, which eliminates all mortuary scenes. Funny, all the while I wore that blue uniform and badge, I didn't even know where the mortuary was in Bend, OR.

Pulp Fiction... I tried to watch it once a zillion years ago and never made it all the way through. But, as much as the violence sucked, the use of the word 'Fuck" in every sentence put me off.
I wouldn't watch Pulp Fiction, since the commercials for it were already glorifying drug use.

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glorifying drug use.
Yeah. I also hate all the movies and TV sitcoms that not only glorify drugs or any illegal activity, but particularly dislike all those that make a hero out of someone who is breaking the law, and there are tons of those. It is no wonder the youth today thinks it is OK to break the law. Look at all the cheers the Bandit (Smokey and the Bandit) got every time he screwed up a cop. I'll grant, they also made the cops look real stupid, but the bottom line is that Bandit should be in jail, not a hero.
 

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Then WTF is up with all the girls that want to be boys?

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I've ALWAYS thought I should have been male. But, back in my early adulthood (the 80s), it was not possible to change a woman into a man (much easier to cut off than put on)... and I didn't have a million dollars or ten even if it had been possible.

Once I became a mother, I knew those inclinations had to be put away; I was a mother, and it's not fair to a child for one of its parents to change their gender, though it has finally become possible for both sexes. But everyone nowadays is all about ME ME ME and nevermind their obligations to their offspring. :facepalm: They said the 60s and 70s were the "Me Generation" but I disagree violently -- members of the ME Generation include Bruce Jenner, so it's no damn wonder those girls are so fucked up... and an old online acquaintance of mine in England, who underwent gender reassignment, and nevermind his 2 sons. :facepalm:

I'm not against any member of the LGBTXYZ whateverthefuck they wanna call themselves... but people need to learn that when you're a mother or a father, you need to STAY a mother or father.

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I wouldn't watch Pulp Fiction, since the commercials for it were already glorifying drug use.

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That movie gave me the creepy crawlies all over, bringing back all those bad old days... and from that, I decided that I DETEST anything made by Tarantino.

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Better or just less bad?
Humans also took a lot less to entertain them back them.
A stick and a rock and I could play for hours.
Now it requires about $1k of electronics stuff to keep a kid occupied for hours....

I was just grateful that my son got the reading bug from me -- anytime he whined "I'm soooo boooooored", I'd take his ass to the library, and he would become unwhiny instantly. :)

And now, *I* read ebooks, and he still reads the regular kind. :D

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