i do it that way too but since I use the KF4 hybrid, i need to put cotton in the juice channels. on my milled out version, I'm going to have to put thick tails in there.
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ORCHID MODIFICATION THREAD
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I have dremels too, but since I have a mill, I might aswell use it. it makes it do easier and faster. I milled out my orchid base in about 3-4 min.
Thanks man. This is what i essentially found out and was eager to try. Wow 3/32 airhole too! Man this is totally different. I should've kept my .4 build =]. .6 isnt enough!
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Won't work. Chinese mini mills don't ship in Chinese trucks here.
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How does the Kayfun 4 chimney affect the vape?
got my tank in from gear best and although I ordered it slow boat, it came in 3 weeks.
well I'm using the orchid base that I milled out the juice channels, now they are wick channels. I can stuff the entire diameter of the strip of cotton in the channel and there isn't a hint of dry hit. wicking is fast and with the opened up air holes it blows clouds like a dripper. looks like all my orchids are going to see the mill.
well I'm using the orchid base that I milled out the juice channels, now they are wick channels. I can stuff the entire diameter of the strip of cotton in the channel and there isn't a hint of dry hit. wicking is fast and with the opened up air holes it blows clouds like a dripper. looks like all my orchids are going to see the mill.
Increased the stock air to 2.78mm. What an improvement! Does the Kayfun v4 chimney add a bit more air to the mix as well? It's still fairly tight for my tastes.
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im pretty sure the chimney is the same size as the orchid chimney, so from that point of view not really. but the conical design on the inside of the v4 may be something you like, i use mine on my vaporshark with orchid base and love it
Increased the stock air to 2.78mm. What an improvement! Does the Kayfun v4 chimney add a bit more air to the mix as well? It's still fairly tight for my tastes.
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Increased the stock air to 2.78mm. What an improvement! Does the Kayfun v4 chimney add a bit more air to the mix as well? It's still fairly tight for my tastes.
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No, and at 2.8mm air holes you are already exceeding the airflow of the chimney.
here is my second orchid Base that I milled out. I really dug into the horizontal channels to get more use of the milled out vertical channels. I'll build this one up this week (maybe tonight) and see how it chain vapes. I can already seeing me go through 50mL of juice every half week. lol
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no not really lol, i think if i ever got around to shaving down the chamber on a regular chimney as far as possible it would be better than both. all about the size of the chamber imo not the shapeYou can tell the difference between squared and conical chambers? I can't.
I have nothing but good things to say about my shortened chambers. The're in all my nano size tanks, work great, and increase capacity significantly. The vape might be slightly warmer, which I like, but otherwise not noticeably different. Those are at 11mm measured internally, which just clears the center post screw heads with the chamber fully screwed down.
finally hitting the deep channel juice wells, wicking is amazing. but boy does it drink juice. I'm going to have to start making my own juice, this is going to get expensive with the way this drinks juice.
How can I increase juice channels with a dremel or hand drill? How about the chamber?
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@TheWestPole has done it with a dremel. it can be done. but not as fast as a mill. I just did one in about 10 min because I took my time and did it slow. it's sitting in the ultrasonic cleaner right now. I milled out the vertical and horizontal channels a lot more. we'll see how it performs tonight when i re coil and wick it.
you can drill out the air holes to 2.6mm anymore and you will break through the side walls. and mill out the juice channels. I have only drilled out my V6 but have since shelved it since It can only bottom fill and I can't use a kayfun V4 evaporation chamber. (i have the glass version) if you have the glass version than that is about all you can do, but if you have the plastic tank you can ditch the chimney and use a kayfun V4 evaporation chamber and do the above mods.
It's all been covered in previous pages.
Opening juice channels has been covered on previous pages. If it's Eric's mill work, that can be done or at least approximated with a rotary tool and the right bits.
Not sure what you want to do with the chamber.
yea man that does sound nice, gonna tack on a few extra chimneys to play around with. want to have it bell capped like i have now so ill have to chop off some of the top as well
I wonder if I can lower the evaporation chamber down buy milling the bottom a few MM. I might have to try it on one. I don't know how much clearance there is from the top of the coils to the evaporation chamber.
dont think so as the bottom part is recessed for the oring to fit snug.. may have some sealing issues if you shave that off
Has anyone tried and preferred an aqua 2 or silverplay base in your custom tanks?
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I have not because I don't own an Aqua V2 or a silver play. I was thinking about it but with the weird post holes on the Aqua V2 turned me off and people stripping the negative post on the silverplay out of the box is another turn off. I own 5 orchids and don't see a need to change what i know is quality stuff. yes I have to drill the base out but I only broke one out of the 5. other words, I'll stick to the orchid base.
If you gotta have AFC, Silverplay is a good way to do. I vape with max airflow full time so the extra bulk and weight of the AFC base is a negative for me.
Also if you don't want to modify for air or juice, the Silverplay base has better air and juice flow than stock Orchid. You'll still want to use an Orchid chamber/chimney or put a Kayfun chimney on the Silverplay chamber. The tank limitations of the stock Silverplay top cap and threaded chimney are a big negative and you will want to convert to Orchid/Kayfun family of tank parts and options.
Ignore the top cap and chimney below. It's a custom.
nice work on the dimitri btw @TheWestPole
Sure, KF4 chamber has greater base thread depth than it needs for an Orchid base, but not much considering the juice port function. Get too close to bottoming and you'll be restricting juice flow. I bet you have only 1mm or to be removed, which may not be worth it.
Thanks. Haven't decided on finish yet so I'm using it with the raw chamfers for awhile. Will post you know where.
Took the plunge and ordered a 5 pack of bell caps, a 30mm 12ml capacity tank and a third orchid v4 base with the necessary orings and needle bottles. Do most of you rock 28g kanthal in yours? Just polished off 100' in less than a year, despite having 22g-34g. It's really just the perfect wire for my tastes.
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i went back to one of my orchids that I just drilled the airways and left the juice channels stock and using a kayfun V4 evaporation chamber, I don't see any real difference in the speed of wicking. the only thing I am able to do with the modified version is put cotton in the juice channel. all future orchids will be left alone. no need for milling.
glad im not alone on that one, but i imagine its fun to tinker with lol i like the stock airflow too but thats personal preference
it was fun to mod, but no need to risk damaging it. I'll just take my chances with drilling the air ways. that is easy to do.
Orchid masters,
My wife used a nasty spearmint pear mix in an orchid of mine for months and I've ran it through the Ultrasonic for 2x 30 min sessions. Every single tank full has a weird tainted flavor to it and I don't know what to do! I am hoping it's just the tank, and that my new tanks and chambers fix it but it's not looking hopeful. I've tried dish soap and a toothbrush as well.
Has anyone been able to successfully remove a weird taste from their orchids due to juice contamination?
My wife used a nasty spearmint pear mix in an orchid of mine for months and I've ran it through the Ultrasonic for 2x 30 min sessions. Every single tank full has a weird tainted flavor to it and I don't know what to do! I am hoping it's just the tank, and that my new tanks and chambers fix it but it's not looking hopeful. I've tried dish soap and a toothbrush as well.
Has anyone been able to successfully remove a weird taste from their orchids due to juice contamination?
I use dish washing soap and never have problems removing the old flavor left over. You tried replacing the coils? Take it completely apart and run it through you ultrasonic cleaner?
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Greetings Byran Miller -Salutations from across the Realms CAW! I recently won an Orchid V5 and have yet to receive it. My go to cleaning favs are PG or Cheap Vodka. You MIGHT be able to disassemble your Orchid, soak it in either, probably best overnight, and repeat cleaning. When I have a tank or RDA that has an issue with flavor or aroma I usually disassemble it, clean with hot (can be dish washer liquid laced) water, and then Vodka. I have an old 10ml glass dripper bottle I keep Vodka in so I can put just a drop into an area or a lot on the whole unit if I want to. If I do this and still have slight, minute, traces, of smell or aroma I clean a final time with Vodka and dry the unit. Then I find one of my stronger flavors of choice and use it in the device. So far this hasn't failed -me- anyway! Best of luck to you and the removal of that stubborn crossover taste! *pax* CAW!
Meh. Too little too late IMO. The KF4 top fill top cap works great.
https://www.fasttech.com/products/1/10013789/2336205-universal-replacement-top-cap-w-refilling-hole
https://www.fasttech.com/products/1/10013789/2336205-universal-replacement-top-cap-w-refilling-hole
CAW! You're a beast.
Vodka huh? Interesting. Do you reuse it afterwards? Seems like it could be costly using this method =). Might have to buy my old high school favorite RUBINOFF.
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New on FT: Orchid V7. This is pathetic. It's been like three months since the Mini was released (with no followup for that promising model) and this is what they offer?! Total bullshit.
https://www.fasttech.com/products/1/10009514/2338400-orchid-v7-styled-rta-rebuildable-tank-atomizer
Total bullshit. https://www.fasttech.com/products/1/10009514/2338400-orchid-v7-styled-rta-rebuildable-tank-atomizer
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FT really needs to offer the v-6 D style tanks separately.. friend of mine used a mint juice which cracked his one tank.. not aware of another that will fit the wider chimney. gonna have to have him order a v4 chimney & kf tank to get that thing back to making clouds.
The V6 Style D tall bell cap is great. Really disappointing that they haven't offered it. I only have the one and won't pay for the atty to get another.
I'm confused about your comment about the Style D chimney. Mine is their standard two-piece (also what is shown in their photos) and is compatible with all the standard non-threaded top caps.
I hear you, and it seems obvious that they would offer that chimney design in a longer model. But no. Nobody seems to be steering the Orchid ship these days.
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the 2 piece orchid chimney from FT has a wider bore than the v4 & doesn't fit in the o-ring of the top cap. I guess i can try it w/a longer pmma tank & see if it'll form a proper seal just by pressing up against the o-ring. my friend had ordered a bellcap but it will require a short chimney, or v4 chimney that'll pass through the o-ring. the v4 2 piece chimney from avid vaper tapers at the top of the chimney to accept kayfun chimney tops, however the v6 2 piece chimney has no taper. top threads are identical to the chimney threads on the orchid deck.
They must be focusing on the sub ohm clearo market that's exploding. Follow the money
But yeah, surprised they haven't offered spares and a longer chimney option. Must not have sold that many, not everyone is into a 2ml tank that sucks down juice like a dripper. The mini is right up my alley though
Sure enough. I have 5 of the two-piece and they're all the 1mm bigger size. I guess I haven't run into the problem because I've been using them to make the big chimneys and not using them as is.
Odd thing is I just vaped a full tank of the V6 Style D tall bell cap on a Silverplay adapted with a Kayfun chimney, which is the smaller diameter. No sealing problems.
Can't you solve the problem with a thinner o-ring?
It is plastic. Lighter weight, and less expensive. It is in my cart.Meh. Too little too late IMO. The KF4 top fill top cap works great.
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True. Please report how well it works. I had issues with the SS version and put it aside.