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mach1ne

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ok so im running around doing chores in town today and i am thinking about aliens. i think it was @raymo2u who had some square wire a while ago? what would happen if you did aliens using square wire for the whole process? do they even make square 36 or higher? if you clapton square on square....i dunno maybe im losing it. just feels like it could possibly be pretty amazing if its even possible.
 

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Sorry guys been away for a while been mixing e-juice and laying off crazy coil builds
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ok so im running around doing chores in town today and i am thinking about aliens. i think it was @raymo2u who had some square wire a while ago? what would happen if you did aliens using square wire for the whole process? do they even make square 36 or higher? if you clapton square on square....i dunno maybe im losing it. just feels like it could possibly be pretty amazing if its even possible.
They make some small wire in Square form...KP has it in stock, I would pick up some 2x2 to replace 30g...you could do it but it would be some large wraps...they would just look twisted in form.

#thecoilguygys made this its a .3R Razorback Alien....Im still trying to get .3R to clapton on its edges well for me...almost there.

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mach1ne

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They make some small wire in Square form...KP has it in stock, I would pick up some 2x2 to replace 30g...you could do it but it would be some large wraps...they would just look twisted in form.

#thecoilguygys made this its a .3R Razorback Alien....Im still trying to get .3R to clapton on its edges well for me...almost there.
wow thats pure madness. the end result looks awesome though. whats the trick to even trying to do that? go really slow? seems like you would need some kind of jig to make sure the wire was feeding onto the core perfectly. thats probably even harder than what i was thinking with square on square claptons. i figured it would be nearly impossible to avoid the wrap twisting while you clapton it...wrapping on the skinnier side of a ribbon just seems like the kind of thing your drunk buddy dares you to try.
 

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wow thats pure madness. the end result looks awesome though. whats the trick to even trying to do that? go really slow? seems like you would need some kind of jig to make sure the wire was feeding onto the core perfectly. thats probably even harder than what i was thinking with square on square claptons. i figured it would be nearly impossible to avoid the wrap twisting while you clapton it...wrapping on the skinnier side of a ribbon just seems like the kind of thing your drunk buddy dares you to try.
Ue uses a Pen thats hollow and cuts a thin slit for the ribbon to fit and slide through while he holds it right where its being claptoned...Its a pain in the ass and Ive only got a few wraps before on comes out wrong and then start over or try to get it right down the line...

They dont have Square wire higher then 30g...so thats about it unless you want 30g wrap
 

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uses a Pen thats hollow and cuts a thin slit for the ribbon to fit
interesting. i have been thinking about jigs and other feats of engineering ever since i got my spool tamers going, which was also right around the time @Iliketurtles mentioned a jig for aliens. theres probably a lot of little things we could make to help us out, or do completely new things we cant do with our hands (like wrapping ribbon on its side).

the spool tamer has seen a bit of use since i set it up. last week told a guy i would make him a couple coils. i sent him a message saying it was done, then i made a three foot stretch of fused clapton for him before he answered me. its too easy :devil:
 

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Ue uses a Pen thats hollow and cuts a thin slit for the ribbon to fit and slide through while he holds it right where its being claptoned...Its a pain in the ass and Ive only got a few wraps before on comes out wrong and then start over or try to get it right down the line...

They dont have Square wire higher then 30g...so thats about it unless you want 30g wrap
They make .4x.4 and .5x.5 square wire. Idk what to do with it.

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They make .4x.4 and .5x.5 square wire. Idk what to do with it.

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Framing, Cores, Could Corrugate it, Claptons/Fused Claptons, Stagger and Fused it with other wire...or Ribbon like I did above...
 

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Glad to see you building again. Finally got to go back home?

Thanks ;)
We finally got back about 3weeks ago after about 8 maybe 9months in total,
the crazy thing is is that before we were moved out i was half way through a list of home improvement's that would have been finished by now so i'm hard at it back on the list, the original plan before i was stopped in my tracks by no fault of our own was to make a little spondoolie and move on to another house.
At best im able to take short jabs at coil making .. so i'm kinda back :D
 

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Framing, Cores, Could Corrugate it, Claptons/Fused Claptons, Stagger and Fused it with other wire...or Ribbon like I did above...
I'm thinking that curvy polished wire you and vapelater have done might look nice using it. Or is that not thick enough? Btw had to delete my IG... Pretty much like a porn site. Anything similar to it?
 

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I'm thinking that curvy polished wire you and vapelater have done might look nice using it. Or is that not thick enough? Btw had to delete my IG... Pretty much like a porn site. Anything similar to it?

The Curvy wire I used is just Ribbon that is crimped into the way pattern...
IG is the only place other then here Ive posted anything but there are other place but they arent as popular like Pintrest. I havent seen anything "Porn" styled besides if you like something that is similar, then you will get more and more results from similar things.
 

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The Curvy wire I used is just Ribbon that is crimped into the way pattern...
IG is the only place other then here Ive posted anything but there are other place but they arent as popular like Pintrest. I havent seen anything "Porn" styled besides if you like something that is similar, then you will get more and more results from similar things.
Well your explorer is based off of people you follow.. Too many naked women all over it. Kinda sad that it has to ruin it for some people.
 

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Made this gargantuan thing this morning...I wanted to make some changes on that build I made yesterday and this is what I came up with.

SPECS: 5 x .5R/38KA1/8x .4R/28N80/42N80


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I also made this for the Rafale X RDA for my new Piglet!!!

4 x .5N80R/26N80/48N80 Framed Staples (6 wraps/3mm ID @ [**.38 Ohms**])
**Due to using the Dead Post** Do NOT use a build like this on a Series Mod!!!

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Why not use it on a series mod?

I made use of the memorial day sales and bought a Rafale X, boreas, petri v2, and a second Conqueror for a backup. That is my favorite flavor tank right now. Masked anything with cream in it so much better. Cereal blends and such are fantastic in that tank.

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Why not use it on a series mod?

I made use of the memorial day sales and bought a Rafale X, boreas, petri v2, and a second Conqueror for a backup. That is my favorite flavor tank right now. Masked anything with cream in it so much better. Cereal blends and such are fantastic in that tank.

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Because that build on any other RDA would be a .16 Ohm Build...I wouldnt try it on a Series Box...maybe a HOG V2 it would be okay but I dont suggest it..
 

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Because that build on any other RDA would be a .16 Ohm Build...I wouldnt try it on a Series Box...maybe a HOG V2 it would be okay but I dont suggest it..
Ok, so it is because it's low ohm. Didn't know if there was another reason for it. I can't wait to get my Rafale X for the cricket.

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@raymo2u when using the Rafale X on the NC... what ohms do you shoot for? Do you Jane to build to higher ohms since it is one coil to the NC? Of still around .4-.5?

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Ok, so it is because it's low ohm. Didn't know if there was another reason for it. I can't wait to get my Rafale X for the cricket.

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I would suggest not building under .3 for a Series box....so as long as you use that rule you'll be fine. I like right where that build is .36-.38 is my favorite.
 

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I would suggest not building under .3 for a Series box....so as long as you use that rule you'll be fine. I like right where that build is .36-.38 is my favorite.
Cool, I like .4 so far. I didn't know if wroth the dead post I would run into the issue I did with the single .5 coil on the NC. It was instant hell fire. You made mention that worth single coil on the NC to lean more towards .8 ohm. I just wanted to make sure to build accordingly for the rda on the mod.

Thanks for the insight man!

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Cool, I like .4 so far. I didn't know if wroth the dead post I would run into the issue I did with the single .5 coil on the NC. It was instant hell fire. You made mention that worth single coil on the NC to lean more towards .8 ohm. I just wanted to make sure to build accordingly for the rda on the mod.

Thanks for the insight man!

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When you make a Dual coil on the Rafale X RDA the "deadpost" makes them a Single Coil....Thats how it works
 

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Because that build on any other RDA would be a .16 Ohm Build...I wouldnt try it on a Series Box...maybe a HOG V2 it would be okay but I dont suggest it..
This is what I was wondering about on the Rafale... if it's .38Ω in series on the Rafale, would that mean it's 2 .19Ω coils? and then .095Ω in parallel (dual coils)? Basically how does the coils in series affect the resistance? I'd think it'd add but unsure.
 

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Not so sure that would be very good for vaping, but would make a cool looking ring or something. People who like jewelry would probably go apeshit and cough up some big bucks for those, perhaps in lower gauges to make them bigger. I don't wear any jewelry but would actually consider something like that.
agree,, these coil masters need to list some of there stuff on etsy or something,, target women customers for sure................a whole other set of customers.
 

kross8

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With 40g/44g for the Stagger and Fuse its pretty damn difficult getting a perfect stagger ;) Just a single coil takes almost a hour to fuse just because how much filling is needed.

Im not sure if I grabbed the Good coil or not...one was great and one sucked...Ill go look and see, brb...

I used the Crappy Coil it seems...

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turn your head sideways,,,,,,,,that would make for an interesting mech mod sleeve..........especially if someone had a beat up mech mod.
 

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Really haven't been in building mode. I have one 3x26/36 n80 4mm 8 wrap alien made but not feeling up to building the 2nd one. I've been just doing stuff up like this, 21g n90 Mad Rabbit 4.7mm 13 wrap. (.19)
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This is what I was wondering about on the Rafale... if it's .38Ω in series on the Rafale, would that mean it's 2 .19Ω coils? and then .095Ω in parallel (dual coils)? Basically how does the coils in series affect the resistance? I'd think it'd add but unsure.
It doesnt change anything for ramp up or anything like that...Its like making a Series Box a Parallel Box but the ramp up is similar to a Series Box...Its hard to explain but its worth getting if you have a Series mod! Your math is correct.
 

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.38 with the dead center post would be .19 per coil making the build as is in a normal rda a .095 ohm build... instead on cutting the resistance in half like you would in normal builds you actually double it because the dead center posts connects both coils turning it into one long ass coil...
never used one but thats the math behind it... pretty fuckin genius if you ask me. expect more atomizers to follow suit.

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Something I made this morning and then I tried making it a Naked Corrugated Build @MR.G.

the spacing was perfect until I went and Wrapped the coils and then the edges rubbed and screwed it all up..so I thought going Naked would be cool...too bad I already burned through the colors before I made it naked...

SPECS: 6 x .4R/26KA1/(40N80*) (4 Wraps/3mm ID @ .1 Ohms)

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Something I made this morning and then I tried making it a Naked Corrugated Build @MR.G.

the spacing was perfect until I went and Wrapped the coils and then the edges rubbed and screwed it all up..so I thought going Naked would be cool...too bad I already burned through the colors before I made it naked...

SPECS: 6 x .4R/26KA1/(40N80*) (4 Wraps/3mm ID @ .1 Ohms)

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What RDA is that?
 

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Alien wrapped staple wire.

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So they did blow up 'a little bit' on the jig, not pretty for pictures. But they are in my new HellBoy 2 clone and they are very very good, pretty much as I expected...ramp up fast and tons of flavor and vapor. So next time I will remember to hold the wire tight when wrapping it :)

......and that's the fastest I ever set off the smoke alarm in the hallway :)
 
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Its half the price of the Goon and is just as good...I think its worth buying
I nearly also bought the HellBoy 2 authentic but couldn't pull the trigger on it, then I saw the clone and got that. First impression is I should of pulled the trigger it is a really good RDA. But....first impressions don't mean much.
 

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Holy crap, i gotta give it up for fasttech. My order shipped the 26th and will be here tomorrow. Got a boreas and petri v2, not sure what to put in them. Raymo, you're the designated augvape goto, whats good in the boreas? Gonna be on the rx200

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Holy crap, i gotta give it up for fasttech. My order shipped the 26th and will be here tomorrow. Got a boreas and petri v2, not sure what to put in them. Raymo, you're the designated augvape goto, whats good in the boreas? Gonna be on the rx200

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I like Framed Staples in it...Throw in some 6 x .4R or .5R/26N80/40N80 Framed Staples (6 Wraps/3mm ID) Alien Framed Staples are great also...just try to pull them as close as you can to the AFC holes and make sure to fluff your wicking!
Fused claptons work well also 24g/38g with the same specs does nicely.
 

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I dropped 30.00 on coils for my tfv4 & crowns today. FT always gets the job done.

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I like Framed Staples in it...Throw in some 6 x .4R or .5R/26N80/40N80 Framed Staples (6 Wraps/3mm ID) Alien Framed Staples are great also...just try to pull them as close as you can to the AFC holes and make sure to fluff your wicking!
Fused claptons work well also 24g/38g with the same specs does nicely.
Just have .3r maybe a 8ply alien staple will do the trick...

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