OK it works now, thanks!
Here is my first real build since running out of money and wire months ago:
Here is my first real build since running out of money and wire months ago:
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Yep Phantom is correct. Thats the exact lens I bought. Its the Sehoo lens and it says its for iPhone but it's not. It'll work with most everything from what I can see. Its a pretty good lens actually, the 24x lens has a tiny fisheye camera effect but whats in the center of the lens is really nice. You basically touch the lens to the coil and shoot. Mine will not focus unless its actually touching the object...but its nice
OK it works now, thanks!
Here is my first real build since running out of money and wire months ago:
Beat build man hat specs?
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6ply then 6ply then 27g frames fused with 38g.
38g is a tad large for this sort of thing but I'm just starting dual spooling and these layered builds so I'm happy with it.
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38g is a tad large for this sort of thing but I'm just starting dual spooling and these layered builds so I'm happy with it.
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I ordered it tonight. I'll give it a go on my Moto Z Force and let ya know how it works out. The Moto Z is a bit odd in that it has the lens in the center of the phone and it's huge!
While I'm not up for building coils completely from scratch yet, I do use some pre made Clapton, my question though, How the Hell do you guys get the pretty colors, no really how? I cant stop looking at some of the purple and pink ones on here.
As for good pictures, never neglect good lighting to bring a picture together but some of it also comes down to knowing how to adjust your focus, ISO, and aperture, all of which can actually be done in pro mode on a lot of the newer samsung phones. I'm not sure about any of the others Brands though TBH. ^ I'm a photography nut, love taking my camera out, or if I can have that a phone with even some decent options gives me some good quality. Picture above uses just the stock camera on a S7 and some quick adjustments in the "Pro" mode.
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Just clean them with a toothbrush and soapy water, rinse, dry, pulse at 30w for n80 and SS or 100w for A1 and D.
While I'm not up for building coils completely from scratch yet, I do use some pre made Clapton, my question though, How the Hell do you guys get the pretty colors, no really how? I cant stop looking at some of the purple and pink ones on here.
As for good pictures, never neglect good lighting to bring a picture together but some of it also comes down to knowing how to adjust your focus, ISO, and aperture, all of which can actually be done in pro mode on a lot of the newer samsung phones. I'm not sure about any of the others Brands though TBH. ^ I'm a photography nut, love taking my camera out, or if I can have that a phone with even some decent options gives me some good quality. Picture above uses just the stock camera on a S7 and some quick adjustments in the "Pro" mode.
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Making an assumption here, but I want to pulse at what ever the outer wrap of the clapton correct, so my coils are made of core=n80, Wrap=A1 I want to pulse at 100w then right?
Hate being a pain in the a$$, I just like to absolutely sure before I try a thing.
Mass comes into play when you're picking a wattage but KD needs to be hotter than A1 to color.
There isn't a set wattage to use but that's usually what I use is 30w for n80 and SS.
Just start low and work up.
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There isn't a set wattage to use but that's usually what I use is 30w for n80 and SS.
Just start low and work up.
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OK it works now, thanks!
Here is my first real build since running out of money and wire months ago:
This is freakin' gorgeous. I'm gonna have to try that style.
Tried my first Helix today. Made two sets after Ruining one during the coiling process. Didn't expect that this would be the most tricky part.
So these are the very first
Still a bit messed but their performance blew me away.
The second set looks a bit cleaner, getting better.
Specs:
All N80
2x29GA twisted/6ply 0.3 Ribbon/36GA Wrap
6 Wraps@3mm
0.097 Ohm as Dual Coil
So these are the very first
Still a bit messed but their performance blew me away.The second set looks a bit cleaner, getting better.
Specs:
All N80
2x29GA twisted/6ply 0.3 Ribbon/36GA Wrap
6 Wraps@3mm
0.097 Ohm as Dual Coil
Very nice! m gonna try a corrugated variation this weekend. Do you have any tips on setting up gears to corrugate the ribbon?
Made this last night. Framed corrugated helix: 2x 28ga twisted frames, 2x 2 ply .4mm ribbon inner frames, 1x corrugated .4mm ribbon, wrapped with 34 ga, 3mm ID. All SS 316L.
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I use this thing. I saw someone using it on a YouTube vid somewhere and picked it up as part of a larger tool/wire order. And, no, they don't come in any other color than lavender. It's easily the girliest tool I own. Heh.
To space or not to space?...That is the question!
26k/36k claptons 3mm 5/6 wraps ohms out @ .43 #nottooshabby
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26k/36k claptons 3mm 5/6 wraps ohms out @ .43 #nottooshabby
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Ok thank you. Great color lol
I use this thing. I saw someone using it on a YouTube vid somewhere and picked it up as part of a larger tool/wire order. And, no, they don't come in any other color than lavender. It's easily the girliest tool I own. Heh.
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Hey man do you use software on a pc to focus stack or an app on your phone? Amazing work btwAll Taken with a PHone (Galaxy S6 + Zomei 37mm Macro Clip On)
Lighting, Focus Stacking and a Steady hand will make even a shitty phone take shots like a DSLR. Before the Galaxy S6 I used a Galaxy S2 and S3 for all my shots, some people actually thought I was using DSLR this whole time...but it was just a phone.
Dropped a mismatched set of Framed Staple Aliens in the TM24. Both have the same cores: 10x.3mm//2x28g//38g on the outside. One coil is interlocked the other is just a regular alien wrap. Just thought it'd make for a fun time shooting, which it was.
And actually remembered to take a shot of my photo setup, since we've been on the subject for a few days:
I scored the lighting on jet.com for $40 (for the pair). It has paid for itself in the lack of hassle and ease of use.
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And actually remembered to take a shot of my photo setup, since we've been on the subject for a few days:
I scored the lighting on jet.com for $40 (for the pair). It has paid for itself in the lack of hassle and ease of use.
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Yes, with both the phone and camera I used stacking. I would take 4-8 shots with the phone and now I take 18-25 shots with the camera. I used Helicon focus to render the stack and Paint.net to edit.
I only just started using the camera though...It's like relearning how to shoot all over again
Thats cool man. I didnt even know what focus stacking was, so instead of being an ass and asking you I did some google-fu and read up on it a bit. Whoever came up with that idea is a genius. From what i read, you can make an entire macro shot completely in focus. I have some sign software that came with a pretty good photo editor, but I'm not smart on it yet. Still need to push a bunch of buttons and see what they do!
Its magical haha. Like Raymo, i also use Helicon. Its like $35 for a year subscription, for me its well worth it. Each photo i just posted is actually about 30 shots that have been focus-stacked. If you plan on using a phone www.photojojo.com has all manner of fun phone photography gadgets, including tripods & lenses and even light bars and external flashes. I would definitely look into a tripod so as to keep the phone/subject matter in place
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Had a go DIY style at a chuck holder for the wire took a bolt cut off the end sanded it down, drilled a hole in the middle of it and attached a small fishing quick release link ...no more buggering about with trying to get the wires centre in my concave drill bit
I should be centred everytime even allowing for a bit of side movement on the drill itself
Can always change the link for a square one or whatever im trying to fasten to it
Cannon T6/Cannon EF-S 60mm Macro
FStop 1:16 - ISO 100 - RAW
Stuck with a single light source right now so Ive had to lern to use the light and reflecting light to my advantage....hopefully soon Ill have more light to work with but for now this is probably somewhere around the best I can.
Very nice! Something i wish someone would have told me ages ago: most lenses are sharpest around f/8. I shoot f/8 iso 100, and adjust the exposure length to get the brightness i need. I shoot and focus manually, so i always use a 2-sec timer to stop it from turning blurry. Your shots are lookin' amazing, but i would give that f/8 thing a try, it totally changed shit for me, especially if you're cropping for super-macro style shots
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thats a good idea man. i did something similar when i learned cat tracks. i bent a paper clip opened and put it in the chuck of my drill, then wrapped a ton of (15-20) wraps of 38g between my swivel and the paper clip right off the spool in one strand. then i bent the paper clip closed and put it all the way into the chuck. wrapped it up like any clapton build and was done in a few mins longer than it would take to make fused claptons (minus the hammering part, which took longer than the wire build).Had a go DIY style at a chuck holder for the wire took a bolt cut off the end sanded it down, drilled a hole in the middle of it and attached a small fishing quick release link ...no more buggering about with trying to get the wires centre in my concave drill bit
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Can always change the link for a square one or whatever im trying to fasten to it
This one ohms out between 0.11 and 0.09
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that's 7 wraps of 22, 24, and 28g SS twisted together with a single strand of 24g NiChrome at 6 wraps. I tried to make a fused Clapton with that twisted wire as the core and a 24g SS wrapped around it and failed miserably. Got pissed off, tossed the drill and unwound the wire by hand then said fuck it. I'll try the Clapton again tomorrow. Maybe a single Clapton wire considering I'm just learning how to do them lol
This one ohms out between 0.11 and 0.09
"Some people call me a redneck, and some people call me a hick, some people call me an asshole, and some people call me just dick. I'm a hellbilly."
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24g is way yonder too thick for a wrap. You might get the 28g to work, but usually 36g and smaller is preferred.
Oooh okay. I'll try the 28. I was thinking the 24 would be okay on the twisted wire given its thickness. Reckon not. I'm still pretty new to the advanced coils. Been building my own for bout a month and a half or so maybe, and only perfected the parallel earlier last month. I wanna learn how to get the porn-worthy coils I see in here, but baby steps, seem to be catching on relatively quickly, but definitely still in the learning stages. Thinking maybe a fused Clapton was a bad choice for a first attempt too probably.
For the 36g what size core would you recommend?
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As a general rule, wraps go 10 gauges higher than cores. Like 26g/36g. It's not set in stone or anything.
Fused wasn't a bad starting point. Your wire is just a bit too heavy for it. I started with 26/34 fused claptons. Now I'm using 28/38 triple fused.
Using more cores lowers the resistance, so using smaller cores keeps it from getting too low. The wrap doesn't affect the resistance very much, but the higher gauges give you more wraps to increase the surface area to heat more juice. Thinner wire also heats and cools faster.
36 is pretty much the starting point for wraps on any build. its pretty easy to work with and ramps up fast enough. in terms of difficulty, fused claptons are the same as regular claptons. they are a pretty good starting point for learning how to build. the reason it was so hard to wrap up your twisted cores was the 24g wraps. try it with 36g and youll get it on your first or second try
@mach1ne awesome, thank you! I'll definitely give that a shot. Probably be a few days waiting for the wire, I'll post the results in here though as sort of a progress report lol
"Some people call me a redneck, and some people call me a hick, some people call me an asshole, and some people call me just dick. I'm a hellbilly."
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"Some people call me a redneck, and some people call me a hick, some people call me an asshole, and some people call me just dick. I'm a hellbilly."
HellbillyRJ
Lil' bit of wireporn. Knocked some wire out over coffee, gonna drop em in the TM24 and shoot em tonight after work if i can. Seems all the fancy lighting in the world can't stop the sun from fuckin' up a shot haha, but this will suffice for research purposes.
Anyways:
8x.3mm/38g/4x.4mm/2x28g/44g
Groove~fused Staggertons
The .3mm & 28g are kanthal, for no reason other than i happened to grab it outta the drawer. The .4mm and all the high gauge is N80.
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Anyways:
8x.3mm/38g/4x.4mm/2x28g/44g
Groove~fused Staggertons
The .3mm & 28g are kanthal, for no reason other than i happened to grab it outta the drawer. The .4mm and all the high gauge is N80.
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Nice build! How is the vape off staggertons compared to say a staple staggered fused (if its even noticeably different)? And does anyone feel like staggertons are easier on the final fuse, or more difficult than the SSFC? Still working on SSFC and kinda getting burned out, so I want to try something similar for practice but different. BTW pic looks great to me, the penny really seems to add a bit of copper-ish color shine to the outside wire.
I like this picture so much that I made this pic my background on my laptop. It's amazing!
I would say if anything the vape I get off Staggertons is a bit warmer but the flavor is more or less the same (if you used the same amount of ribbon). I find Staggertons easier to build but I also have a lot more practice with them than I do SSFC. The groove fused are a bit more challenging, but I find the flavor on them to be outstanding and worth the trouble to learn
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Haha awesome!!I like this picture so much that I made this pic my background on my laptop. It's amazing!
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Since I was experimenting with different staple builds, I managed my very first SSFC. it didn't come out perfectly, gonna get me some good magnifying glasses I really had problems to see what I'm staggering can't think to use something thinner than 36GA at the moment. Ordered some 42GA and I guess I will snap it just by looking at it
Specs: 28GA N80/4ply 05-01 ribbon/36GA stagger and Fuse
7 wraps 3mmID @ 0.17 ohm dual.
I really like how they peforme but for me the staple helix has slightly better flavour...
can't think to use something thinner than 36GA at the moment. Ordered some 42GA and I guess I will snap it just by looking at itSpecs: 28GA N80/4ply 05-01 ribbon/36GA stagger and Fuse
7 wraps 3mmID @ 0.17 ohm dual.
I really like how they peforme but for me the staple helix has slightly better flavour...
It's not my build or anything, but just thought I'd chime in on this. After they'll get to using 64,000 ply is when they'll finally find they'll start running into trouble posting pics of staggertons that haven't already been done before.
Hey Guys, Tried a Caterpillar Track, once I torched it everything got all weird. lol
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got some vape mail today. only had time to set up the hadaly clone with a framed staple. this coil was a spare from a set i made a couple months ago. cant remember the specs, it was prolly 6x.4 with 28 or 26 frames, looks like 42 wrap. single comes to exactly .2 ohms
nice flavor. so far i really like this atty
nice flavor. so far i really like this atty
Those staggered aliens get me every time man, such a gorgeous f'n coil
Are you using the same gauge decore for both wraps, or are you jumping up a size?
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I find groove fusing a staggerton actually easier for some reason, just go full speed
The last few Ive used the same gauge for both, I didnt have the next 2 sizes up I normally use.Those staggered aliens get me every time man, such a gorgeous f'n coil
Are you using the same gauge decore for both wraps, or are you jumping up a size?
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