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[mach1ne]

looking great @KingPin! . you know, you are only one tiny step from alien framed staples now right? just replace your middle 26g core with 4x.4mm ribbon and do everything else the same..

@S3rv3d is that your first post in here? nice intro whats your secret to getting the mohawk? how do you find they vape? i made a set by accident when i was learning aliens and i didnt think they vaped very well. i think i was using a very thick wrap at the time though...never tried them again, but i should really get that technique down in case i need it for something...

 

[raymo2u]

That skill RDa is #1, G24 is #2 and Goon is #3....I highly suggest buying any of these if you want a RDA that does it all...

 

[S3rv3d]

@S3rv3d is that your first post in here? nice intro whats your secret to getting the mohawk? how do you find they vape? i made a set by accident when i was learning aliens and i didnt think they vaped very well. i think i was using a very thick wrap at the time though...never tried them again, but i should really get that technique down in case i need it for something...

I think so, haha thanks. I haven't got many posts on this forum, mainly just browse. Will probably become more active though now. Im mostly active on PoTV. Forums, Instagram Facebook, Building and not enough time. I need to quit my job.

I haven't vaped them yet, still got a few shots to take before I do. I used squirming coils and mangled meditations tutorial as a guide. Basically same as a normal alien but wrap the beginning of the 3 cores first so they triangle. Then just alien like normal really with an under stretch on the decore.

Another shot, this was such a pain to stack with all the crossing lines. Not 100% happy but it was the best I could do with an iPhone.

 

[f4milytime]

I think so, haha thanks. I haven't got many posts on this forum, mainly just browse. Will probably become more active though now. Im mostly active on PoTV. Forums, Instagram Facebook, Building and not enough time. I need to quit my job.

I haven't vaped them yet, still got a few shots to take before I do. I used squirming coils and mangled meditations tutorial as a guide. Basically same as a normal alien but wrap the beginning of the 3 cores first so they triangle. Then just alien like normal really with an under stretch on the decore.

Another shot, this was such a pain to stack with all the crossing lines. Not 100% happy but it was the best I could do with an iPhone.

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Man that's nice !!

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[Whiskeywarrior]

Wow! I'm humbled. That means a ton to me @KingPin! Thank you. I have been working way to much lately and my back hasn't let me build lately but I will have some pictures up soon of a couple builds I'm planning. I'm flabbergasted that someone likes my coils that much. You ain't no slouch yourself, you make some really nice coils.

 

[gakudzu]

@KingPin! Outstanding aliens!!

 

[KingPin!]

Wow! I'm humbled. That means a ton to me @KingPin! Thank you. I have been working way to much lately and my back hasn't let me build lately but I will have some pictures up soon of a couple builds I'm planning. I'm flabbergasted that someone likes my coils that much. You ain't no slouch yourself, you make some really nice coils.

It's that pic mate ...Perfect light and shading natural not in a light box the coil just looks fantastic really pops

 

[f4milytime]

Howzit bros, Here's my very first one of these 26/32. I know the outside is big wire, I'm gonna practice with smaller wire next. Wish me luck Haha...

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[Dustyjeans]

Hi guys,

Started taking my coil building seriously around end of Feb, early March and posting on Instagram. Ive always made coils but mainly Fused Clapton or round wire builds. Had a few goes at Aliens too in the past, was never very good at them. Always struggled with them and just about get 2 coils. Id probably made about 3 pairs of Aliens up until a month ago. Finally figured out I was always over stretching my decore. So since the beginning of March I've been practising, and trying to learn the basic builds. Im trying to have a go at each type, Staples, Framed Staples, SSFCs, Aliens, Staggertons and now onto Mohawks.

Ive had the CSMNT for a few weeks and its been sitting there waiting for me to get a build in. I chose to try out Mohawks because of the build space available, and thought 3mm Mohawks would fit in nicely. So made these at the weekend as I love the look of them, but thought they were impossible.

Next I want to try Tsukas and Frailens. Then start adding stitches and interlocks.

3x27/36N80

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Beautiful! How do they vape?

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[KingPin!]

Howzit bros, Here's my very first one of these 26/32. I know the outside is big wire, I'm gonna practice with smaller wire next. Wish me luck Haha...

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Spot on lovely coils! Yeah I'd be interested to know how they vape too haven't tried mine yet wanna know if they differ to standard fused claptons at all

 

[f4milytime]

Spot on lovely coils! Yeah I'd be interested to know how they vape too haven't tried mine yet wanna know if they differ to standard fused claptons at all

Thanks... You telling me, I have yet to vape any of my successful builds. They are all sitting in a frosting container, from my cinnamon rolls I vape F.C. cause that's what I'm best at making. LOL

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[Twisted Vaping]

Thanks... You telling me, I have yet to vape any of my successful builds.

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Well known Problem

All Kinds of coils... claptons, Fused claptons, staggered, Staggertons, cat Tracks, Aliens with 3/4/5 cores, staples and Framed staples, Metal snake spines, Multi and 40+Core builds, Fraliens, helixed staples, SSFC, Cor SSFC and .... and whatever the darker ones are Pre-Fired.
And by the way my small fancy workplace in the basement where i do all my Stuff.

 

[KingPin!]

Well known Problem
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All Kinds of coils... claptons, Fused claptons, staggered, Staggertons, cat Tracks, Aliens with 3/4/5 cores, staples and Framed staples, Metal snake spines, Multi and 40+Core builds, Fraliens, helixed staples, SSFC, Cor SSFC and .... and whatever the darker ones are Pre-Fired.
And by the way my small fancy workplace in the basement where i do all my Stuff.
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Hahaha nice one can never have enough coils ...when the zombie apocalypse hits your gonna need em!

 

[Twisted Vaping]

Hahaha nice one can never have enough coils ...when the zombie apocalypse hits your gonna need em!

LOL you say it Bro ! In fact thats what i'm preparing for my Girl yet calls me Caveman when i Head to the Basement but hey have to Serve the two of us with coils and so i have to do for my buddies who dont have the Time or mood to learn how to build.

And so i Threw out to Sets of really Tiny staple coils for the TFV8 RBA (6ply 0.3 and 38 Clapton @0.2Ohm Dual) and a triple of a Variation of the Corrugated Helix this Time with three Twisted cores instead of two (3xtwisted 32G, 4ply 0.3, 38G Fuse @0.09Ohm Dual)

Love the shot with the size difference

 

[mach1ne]

for most of my building career i just sat on the floor in my living room with all my tools in a circle around me, and my swivels clamped to a little anvil. turns out thats not ideal my room mate gave me an old computer chair and desk, so i set it up in my bedroom for building. theres been a few pics of build-spaces recently, so i figured i would show off mine.


i take all my coil pics under that lamp, on the corner of my coilmaster kit. its kinda hard to see, but i marked out inches/feet all the way across the front of the desk to measure wire. the swivel and drills can be moved and clamped down on the front or back side of the desk. the hand drill is currently in a vise, and clamped to the desk. i put my power drill in there too when i can use it (so loud, i live in a condo with retired people on all sides, and i mostly build after midnight)...i put a laser pointer in the drill chuck and align it with my swivels before i clamp it all down. i dunno if that helps anything, but it feels pretty futuristic the wire is mounted on a piece of cardboard with foam on the back that was in the box my tv came in. it took about ten mins to set up and mount on the wall with thumb tacks.

 

[f4milytime]

I'm still on the living room floor with numb legs and one of those tables with the fold out legs.

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[KingPin!]

for most of my building career i just sat on the floor in my living room with all my tools in a circle around me, and my swivels clamped to a little anvil. turns out thats not ideal my room mate gave me an old computer chair and desk, so i set it up in my bedroom for building. theres been a few pics of build-spaces recently, so i figured i would show off mine.
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i take all my coil pics under that lamp, on the corner of my coilmaster kit. its kinda hard to see, but i marked out inches/feet all the way across the front of the desk to measure wire. the swivel and drills can be moved and clamped down on the front or back side of the desk. the hand drill is currently in a vise, and clamped to the desk. i put my power drill in there too when i can use it (so loud, i live in a condo with retired people on all sides, and i mostly build after midnight)...i put a laser pointer in the drill chuck and align it with my swivels before i clamp it all down. i dunno if that helps anything, but it feels pretty futuristic the wire is mounted on a piece of cardboard with foam on the back that was in the box my tv came in. it took about ten mins to set up and mount on the wall with thumb tacks.

Great idea with the spools mate like it

 

[KingPin!]

Had my first go with dragon skin coils today considering it looks like an easier build it's actually really diifcult to get a consistent skin look on the wire at the pliers stage!

Method I used today

1) wrapped 34gNi80 over 24g as a clapton then decored
2) Stretch decore about 2.5times then fed through the middle of the decore 28gKA1 round wire
3) Make 3 equal lengths and twist together opposite way to the clapton
4) slap some juice on the now twisted wire and run toothless pliers along the length 3 times to push the clapton flat

 

[S3rv3d]

Beautiful! How do they vape?

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Still haven't finished taking shots yet, so I've got no idea haha.

I normally take a few shots a day of a build over 4-5 days. But really need to start doing it in a day.

 

[KingPin!]

Also had a go with a variation on the staggered fused clapton today pretty pleased with it

2x26g KA1 core staggered with 36g
Fused with twisted 38g

I didn't get enough 38g off the spool when twisting the wrap so didn't have enough for two coils ...ahh well gonna wack this is the Pharoah maybe take off a wrap or two to bring resistence down a little

 

[Th3T]

Staggerton #2 annnd I wrecked it during wraping heh (though salvaged as a 4 wrap(3.5). I normally just wrap by hand with my screwdriver but this time I tried holding toothless pliers on one end of the wire and the screwdriver in the same hand to get a tighter wrap but in pulling it tight (a little too tight I think) the ribbon got all funky on me. first time this has happened for me. Oh well I didn't make enough for dual coil anyway, so its just an excuse to build more. 28g ka1 frames, 6ply .4ka1, 36g n80. Got some .3 ribbon and 38g N80 coming cant wait to try some variations there.

 

[KingPin!]

Staggerton #2 annnd I wrecked it during wraping heh (though salvaged as a 4 wrap(3.5). I normally just wrap by hand with my screwdriver but this time I tried holding toothless pliers on one end of the wire and the screwdriver in the same hand to get a tighter wrap but in pulling it tight (a little too tight I think) the ribbon got all funky on me. first time this has happened for me. Oh well I didn't make enough for dual coil anyway, so its just an excuse to build more.View attachment 78950 28g ka1 frames, 6ply .4ka1, 36g n80. Got some .3 ribbon and 38g N80 coming cant wait to try some variations there.

From what i can see of it in the pic (can only see left half) looks really good mate

 

[Th3T]

Hm is the pic messed up? Shows up on my screen, but I've been having trouble uploading them in my browser getting errors using IE11 or whatever. Will probably just use the opera browser from now on. Btw nice staggered fused, never thought of twisting the fuse wire so that's new to me, and always looking for inspiration and new ideas.
Also anyone ever done an alien wrap over just ribbon and if so what would you use to Clapton the decore around? I know its 1/3 of the final cores but say you wanted to alien wrap over 8 ply .3 or .4, 30g perhaps?

 

[Twisted Vaping]

Also anyone ever done an alien wrap over just ribbon and if so what would you use to Clapton the decore around? I know its 1/3 of the final cores but say you wanted to alien wrap over 8 ply .3 or .4, 30g perhaps?

You mean a classic staple coil with alien wrap? Never seen that before, but why not? Should be possible.
It is a bit of trial and error, but my experiments with framed staple aliens showed that smaller decores produce a "flatter" alien. Hope you get what I mean, the "swoops" won't be that aggressive and with too small decore you hardly can tell a difference to a normal wrap.
So when you use 8ply 0.4 your core will be about 0.8mm wide, so one third would be 0.26mm or 30GA like you mentioned.
I would recommend 32GA (0.32mm) because I think this will give a much better wrap. Stretch till your decored Clapton shows 90 degree angles and you should be fine.

The problem is that the "one third rule" doesn't work here. So when you use normal three core 26GA your core will be 1.2mm wide and 0.4mm thick.

8ply 0.4 ribbon will be 0.8 mm wide and 0.4mm thick. So you have no 1to3 ratio but a 1 to 2 ratio.

BUT if you use 9ply of 0.3 you will get the same 1 to 3 ratio. It would be 0.9mm wide and 0.3mm thick, like a core of three 29GA (0.3mm). So in this case a decore of 29GA should work perfect. If it would fit your needs.

 

[Th3T]

Nice tip, yeah was wondering about just classic staple with alien wrap. Aliens were what I learned right after fused claptons so I have a lot more experience with them. Just made a stick of framed staple alien today for my engine. I am interested in trying just a staple with an alien wrap though but I don't currently have 30g but do have 32g. I think I saw them in a Mike Vapes video on youtube, they were coilology coils or something that were 8 ply .3

 

[KingPin!]

Attempted to do @Whiskeywarrior 's build today ....thanks for the help in PM so far mate

The squalien coil with an inlay to run something round the middle once coiled up

The coil so far consisted of:

10ply 0.4x 0.1 ribbon wire stacked

2 x 28g frames on top of the stack towards the edges (vertical way) to create an inlay (not to the side like a framed coil)

Wrap with 36g decore clapton

All went well except when I went to coil it ...what a poxy mess was completely deflated after this epic 4 hour build no matter what I tried it instantly would bend one side or the other....I don't know if the frames on top were making it even harder to bend the verticle stacked ribbon? I refuse to be beaten by this any ideas how to coil this one up?

...the alien wrap went on ok and frames stayed in place was so happy with it until that happened

 

[f4milytime]

Here's todays 26/36 Duel Core Alien attempt. Having problems with loose wraps, and finished wire coming out more twisted than it should. Arghhhh.....

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[Whiskeywarrior]

The first one I did with ribbon came out like that and several after. It's all good just keep at it. The ribbon just wants to lay down instead of bend. Keep it straight as you can and don't let it have any play if you can. That is a hell of a first try, bravo.

 

[KingPin!]

The first one I did with ribbon came out like that and several after. It's all good just keep at it. The ribbon just wants to lay down instead of bend. Keep it straight as you can and don't let it have any play if you can. That is a hell of a first try, bravo.

Thanks mate I am right placing the frames on the stack, with the stack laying vertically rather than horizontally?
It would coil a hell a lot easier if the ribbon was laying flat

 

[Whiskeywarrior]

You are right. It definitely would be easier but not how Staples are supposed to be. I'm sure it would vape around the same. You can also make them with all wire, made plenty of those.

 

[raymo2u]

Best RTA/RDTA in the World...IMHO anyway...the Merlin RDTA.
5mm x 5mm postholes, this is more width for wire then even my Norris N30 and G2 Seminole. Its the most thought out RDTA that Ive seen yet and Im very happy to have been there sine the first drawing of it. I loved the Beta and Pre-production model so much I bought the others when they were released, this one here is the newest version, the Rose Gold Edition.

Some really wide All Ribbon SSFC's installed, 4ply .3R/42TMN80 Staggered Frames and a 12ply .3R Core. Skip Fused with 42TMN80.

So theres 20ply there and atleast 8ly worth of room left over....Ive already asked for Augvape to make a RDA featuring the same deck but use the new Druga topcap....it would be the best RDA ever....again this is only my opinion.

Then one of my favorite Single Coil RTA's, the CP RTA by ADVKen.

2 Stacks of 6ply .3R/36g 316L/.3 x .3N80 Square Wire/ Fused with 36g 316L

 

[KingPin!]

Best RTA/RDTA in the World...IMHO anyway...the Merlin RDTA.
5mm x 5mm postholes, this is more width for wire then even my Norris N30 and G2 Seminole. Its the most thought out RDTA that Ive seen yet and Im very happy to have been there sine the first drawing of it. I loved the Beta and Pre-production model so much I bought the others when they were released, this one here is the newest version, the Rose Gold Edition.

Some really wide All Ribbon SSFC's installed, 4ply .3R/42TMN80 Staggered Frames and a 12ply .3R Core. Skip Fused with 42TMN80.

So theres 20ply there and atleast 8ly worth of room left over....Ive already asked for Augvape to make a RDA featuring the same deck but use the new Druga topcap....it would be the best RDA ever....again this is only my opinion.

Awesome work Raymo how you knock out such stunning coils time after time is beyond me ...who won the coils wars by the way or is it still running?

I've got the Augvape Merlin RDTA though I'm still struggling to put the skill RDA down (put a review of the skill RDA up now
http://vapingunderground.com/threads/skill-rda-review-by-kingpin.317737/

loving the black and gold version of the Merlin RDTA!

 

[Mista Malice]

Helix Claptons, in the Reload for the weekend.. these were a pain to install!

 

[KingPin!]

Well I found a home for those monster framed staple helixs I posted a page back or two bwahaha

The Merlin RDTA is huge! These vape like a champ loving the flavour they produce

Came out at 0.14 ohms exactly

 

[516_vaper_li]

An easy one. Fused Clapton. Practice makes perfect

 

[Mista Malice]

Fused Claptons are always good ^

 

[lcgixxer87]

Awesome work Raymo how you knock out such stunning coils time after time is beyond me ...who won the coils wars by the way or is it still running?

I've got the Augvape Merlin RDTA though I'm still struggling to put the skill RDA down (put a review of the skill RDA up now
http://vapingunderground.com/threads/skill-rda-review-by-kingpin.317737/

loving the black and gold version of the Merlin RDTA!

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I really like that.


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[raymo2u]

Awesome work Raymo how you knock out such stunning coils time after time is beyond me ...who won the coils wars by the way or is it still running?

I've got the Augvape Merlin RDTA though I'm still struggling to put the skill RDA down (put a review of the skill RDA up now
http://vapingunderground.com/threads/skill-rda-review-by-kingpin.317737/

loving the black and gold version of the Merlin RDTA!

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Schizopart won coilwars, my team mate and n.devine placed 2nd and third. They are doing monthly "Battles" on Instagram and Staggering is this months challenge....the crazy ;art is almost every day or 2 Ive entered something....The Skill is my favorite RDA so I know exactly how you feel about that but having a second setup with the MErlin RDTA is pretty handy. Im rocking the Clack/Gold Merlin RDTA on my Lethal Box and my Skill on my Brass/Black Broadside Mix ith a Brass Trinity Magnum Tip....its quite the pairing.

So some stuff Ive been making, Ive got some crazy shit I want to post but my sons usingthe phone right now so i cant take the pics off it..

Quad Paraclapped 6PLY .3R/46g Core, Framed with 6PLY .3R+28g +4PLY .3R/40g Skip Fused to seal it all up. I found that 4 strands of 46g takes up the same amount of space as 40g skip fusing so this went together really well, almost a Groove Fused Center...

Triple Frame Stagg

Multiple Alien Staggs Ive been making to get spacing down.

 

[f4milytime]

Put this 26/34 thing in the ol' Ammit to try. It is 0.43 ohms.

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[Mista Malice]

...The Skill is my favorite RDA so I know exactly how you feel about that...

I just got the Skill and the Seminole in the mail last week, but haven't had a chance to build on them yet. The whole time I was trying to squeeze that Clapton Helix in the Reload I posted above, I was thinking of how much nicer the RDA would be if it had "Skill Style" posts due to having to install one Coil after the 1st one is in place.

 

[mach1ne]

@raymo2u it looks like you are half a step away from alien pitchforks dude. i tried the alien stagg a while ago and my hand spacing was hilariously bad. i got the second pass in between the first one, but they were all too far apart and janky. i also wrecked most of the second pass just trying to find tension. any idea if the loop trick works on aliens? seems like if the first pass was properly spaced it would be a lot easier to get the second one...

 

[gakudzu]

5mm i.d. 3x25g430/36g316L in the Pharaoh clone.

Screwed it up a lil trying to wrap it around the only 5mm thingy I could dig outta my toolbox lol. Vapes like a beast tho

 

[raymo2u]

@raymo2u it looks like you are half a step away from alien pitchforks dude. i tried the alien stagg a while ago and my hand spacing was hilariously bad. i got the second pass in between the first one, but they were all too far apart and janky. i also wrecked most of the second pass just trying to find tension. any idea if the loop trick works on aliens? seems like if the first pass was properly spaced it would be a lot easier to get the second one...

I made some variants in the same aspect, spaced alien double stacks (2 x 6ply .3/ 36g Alien) and fused with a Enigma, Ive also done a Mohawk/Enigma Staggerton but it didnt look great as a coil...but the wireporn was cool....

Made some Polished Alien Staggs today:

I made a new series of Staggertons. The 3D Stagg Series.
Building a normal staggerton can be fun but once you've made just about everything there is you can get kinda bored recreating things you've done 10 times over, so I decided I would add another layer and then try and find a way to make it even more complicated and challenging.

Version #1:

Bottom Staggered Staple is 12ply .3R/42TMN80, Top is 6ply 3R/42TMN80, Top is framed with .3N80 Square Wire and then Top can Bottom Framed with 4ply .5R/42TMN80, all Skip Fused with 42TMN80.

Version #2:

Similar to the first ith the Top and Bottom Stacks but the Outer Frames are .3R instead and the entire bottom is skip fused together anf then the top stack is skip fused in the final gap of the bottom.

 

[gakudzu]

I made some variants in the same aspect, spaced alien double stacks (2 x 6ply .3/ 36g Alien) and fused with a Enigma, Ive also done a Mohawk/Enigma Staggerton but it didnt look great as a coil...but the wireporn was cool....

Made some Polished Alien Staggs today:

I made a new series of Staggertons. The 3D Stagg Series.
Building a normal staggerton can be fun but once you've made just about everything there is you can get kinda bored recreating things you've done 10 times over, so I decided I would add another layer and then try and find a way to make it even more complicated and challenging.

Version #1:

Bottom Staggered Staple is 12ply .3R/42TMN80, Top is 6ply 3R/42TMN80, Top is framed with .3N80 Square Wire and then Top can Bottom Framed with 4ply .5R/42TMN80, all Skip Fused with 42TMN80.

Version #2:

Similar to the first ith the Top and Bottom Stacks but the Outer Frames are .3R instead and the entire bottom is skip fused together anf then the top stack is skip fused in the final gap of the bottom.

 

[CashNVape]

damn @raymo2u nice builds!
you have a incoming pm.

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[alphamachina]

Some beautiful builds here. I can't even begin to compete, but this is my first attempt at something somewhat flashy. Forgive me if it's been done before, but I've yet to see it myself.
It's a fused clapton with 2 x 26ga kanthal core, 30ga kanthal wrapped, then with 24ga kanthal coiled around the outside. It's 2.0mm inside diameter and the wire size, all wraps included, is about 2.0mm as well.
I call it.. The Deacon


Here's a link to another shot of it. Too big to upload here for some reason: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BztS5R_cAaXOcVllYk9Ib016a2c

 

[Th3T]

@raymo2u Mind = Blown. Really like the concept of your 3d stags can't decide which one looks better. It's badass how the .5R frames are somewhat diamond shaped when you look at it from a certain angle in #1(plus that square wire is dope) and #2 looks damn clean all fused up, really amazing staggertons. Also those alien stags are just nuts haha. Also do you use round wire for the decore on the alien staple? I'm pondering about how to make just an alien staple (no frames).

 

[raymo2u]

@raymo2u Mind = Blown. Really like the concept of your 3d stags can't decide which one looks better. It's badass how the .5R frames are somewhat diamond shaped when you look at it from a certain angle in #1(plus that square wire is dope) and #2 looks damn clean all fused up, really amazing staggertons. Also those alien stags are just nuts haha. Also do you use round wire for the decore on the alien staple? I'm pondering about how to make just an alien staple (no frames).

I do for the ones I vape, I make a normal 3x28g/36g Alien but spae the alien wrap (try for 1mm spacing) and then frame it with 8g and fuse with a 24g/36g decore. They ohm out to about .09 with a 4 wrap/3mm Id and they re my favorite vape for a tube mod.

Round Wire Alien Stagg:

Ribbon Version (INSANELY DIFFICULT)

Stuff from the last few days:

Heart Beat Wire

 

[Th3T]

I do for the ones I vape, I make a normal 3x28g/36g Alien but spae the alien wrap (try for 1mm spacing) and then frame it with 8g and fuse with a 24g/36g decore. They ohm out to about .09 with a 4 wrap/3mm Id and they re my favorite vape for a tube mod.

Round Wire Alien Stagg:

Ribbon Version (INSANELY DIFFICULT)

Stuff from the last few days:

Heart Beat Wire

Ahh I see now, for some reason I thought the core of your alien stag was only ribbon with an alien wrap over it, but I see at least from that pic its framed ribbon. Was wondering about just a plain staple coil with an alien wrap over it, if it was possible. Only because I've never vaped just a staple without frames yet. I think if I do decide to make one now it will be inspired by your staggertons with ribbon frames. Once I get the hang of regular staggertons that is (mainly para-Clapton on ribbon). Just got some .3R and a good supply of 38g to practice. Might go for an 8ply fralien to start, never been able to go past 6 ply before with my .4R due to ohm-ing out so low on dual coil. I do have a DNA250 but haven't pushed anything below .1 That is a great idea though I may practice spaced aliens with a round wire core because I do eventually want to build up to that amazing looking/vaping alien stag!

 

[iamadrunkguy]

My first try. The only wire I had left. Fused Clapton 2-24/36 kanthal, .18 ohm, 8 wraps 3mm on Elite v2 rda

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