Thanks!
Only at first. Just needed an additional tightening, and all's fine in the world.
Nah, the pics just make it look that way. They're 3x28/38 SS316L.
Thanks!
Only at first. Just needed an additional tightening, and all's fine in the world.
Nah, the pics just make it look that way. They're 3x28/38 SS316L.
That thing is HUGE !This is my single coil build on a Pyro 24 RDTA. 7.5mm id and 5 wraps of Vandy Vape flat clapton SS316L wire comes to 0.25 ohms. I got some Graham beauty coils 100% cotton I use for wicking slips right in with no thinning.
I see a coil diameter challenge brewing !!! 
Nice coils man. Maybe one day I'll get there.
i have had good luck within those specs (single mech at ~.2 ohms) just using spares from my lower parallel builds. the best coil i ever put in my hadaly was a leftover fattie framed staple. i cant remember the exact composition but im pretty sure it was 10-15 plies of .3 ka1 and i know it was 42n80 wrap. thing was so good in there i regret replacing it.
lucky friend
super slick looking coils too 
keep posting your builds man, 'getting there' is a side effect of posting here
have you made any more staples or tried a framed staple yet?
No i haven't tried anymore Staples lately. Waiting on some more ribbon wire.got some .5 should be here this week. But I was able to get the .8 to work even though too thick. I have faith in the 5 and eventually the 3. I'll get it. Thanks for the boost of confidence.i have had good luck within those specs (single mech at ~.2 ohms) just using spares from my lower parallel builds. the best coil i ever put in my hadaly was a leftover fattie framed staple. i cant remember the exact composition but im pretty sure it was 10-15 plies of .3 ka1 and i know it was 42n80 wrap. thing was so good in there i regret replacing it.
lucky friend
keep posting your builds man, 'getting there' is a side effect of posting here
Dude if you practice you will definitely get there. It took me nearly four months to learn how to make alien coils. Now they are easy, I feel like I can alien wrap almost anything. It's entirely a feeling thing. There's no one thing your going to think or realize that is going to make it happen. You have to practice and develop the feeling. At first you might only get a half inch of wire done. That's OK cause that's proof in and of itself that its not impossible. Then as you keep practicing you'll notice you'll get a little further, then a little further, until one day you'll be building and the groove will just stay in place and you'll be like is this really happening? Sure enough you'll get enough for at least one coil and the satisfaction of building your own alien coil and vaping it will be overwhelming. One thing that helped me in the beginning was using a paperclip to help keep the wires parallel. I think that's one of the parts people have the most trouble with. If you use a paperclip doing two inches at a time and you keep your hand steady and the tension even you will get a groove. The more you practice the longer you'll be able to keep the groove. Don't give up man just practice whenever you have the time. I promise you if I can do it, anyone can.
That's a really beautiful build man! Single coil Fraliens are my favorite vape and your coil looks excellent. I love the color you got in this shot. The deep blue and purple really came out nice and even. Your binding is tight and your wraps are really solid too. The image of this coil is gonna make me go out for a vape break right now! Awesome work man, really beautiful.My pulse 22 finally came... still trying to figure out what resistance I like a single coil at.. very limiting being capped off at 80w... I’ve been vaping on 2 coils around 100-125w for YEARS now. It is a big change..... anyway, here’s a fralien I made for it to see how it went
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36n80 alien.. 4.5 wrap/3mm around .23ohms. Coil got all matchy matchy with my squonker haha
If anyone got a good build for a single cell 80w mod, let me know!!
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Honestly I think your photo was great but I feel the same way about my photos. I was thinking about buying a magnifying glass and using that to help me with the photos I take. I'm no expert in photography at all but I've heard from credible sources that a magnifying glass can really help. I guess we'll find out when I get the time to pick one up!
Really cool looking build! How's she vape?
that's a 16mm deck :0
thats a lotta coil for such a small atty
i used a little loupe for the longest time, and only recently upgraded to a clip on macro lens. the loupe was the only way i could get a good pic of my coils with my phone and kept me going for a while. i am really impressed with the macro lens though. the loupe is ok for taking pics of coils, but the macro really get some extra detail. heres a couple very similar shots. first is the loupe on 32/42 alien, second is the macro on 36/46
About to spin this staple in a few. Finishing kids homework now. Hope this works out. Will be 8x.4ribbon/36 n80 wrap. If that goes well may try a frame for it. Or just do a few ply in the next one.
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I'd say make them do their own homework that way you can get to the better task at handAbout to spin this staple in a few. Finishing kids homework now. Hope this works out. Will be 8x.4ribbon/36 n80 wrap. If that goes well may try a frame for it. Or just do a few ply in the next one.
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well, I had a good idea I suppose lol.. SSFC that twisted in a weird way.. 26g frames spaced with 32g inside those, 8 .3 ribbon with a 28/38g Clapton running down the center. all fused with 36g all n80 except the 28g which was KA1(couple different styles of fuse, I stopped caring lol)
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thanks
it looked good in my mind anyways.. came out looking completely different. looks like the ribbon twisted on me :/ gave the top coil to the woman, she said it looked pretty lol gonna mount the bottom in a wasp and try it out, it looks a bit less twisted up..
odd thing is, both coils are from the same stick *shrug*thanks
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3 mm fused clapton. 3/28ss wrapped in 40ga ss. In Tobhino rda
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It's my first 40 ga. I find it cool how with 36 ga wraps my lemon vape really shines (Nitrous oxide -double comma vapes) but with the 40 its kind of muted. On the plus side my grape (skyline fuel) shines, really nice with the 40ga ! 
I gotta make sure they do it though. Spelling words and suchI'd say make them do their own homework that way you can get to the better task at hand
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I've learned from my superiors that the trick to wrapping anything with vertical ribbon is to keep constant tension on the wire. If you can find a way to get clearance and keep constant tension your wrap is gonna improve significantly. Once you install those just give them a little tweeze to tighten them up and you'll be vaping just fine. Good job!Last wrap twisted on me but it's a staple and wrapped the correct way. Woohoo. Still not real happy with it but at least I got one down. Didn't have enough for a dual but can always make some more. Need better swivels
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Very cool man, especially your second photo, that just looks really tight. I noticed the ribbon seems horizontal. Was that on purpose or did it just come out that way? I love the idea of throwing that clapton wire right in the middle of the SSFC I never would have thought of that. Really really nice.well, I had a good idea I suppose lol.. SSFC that twisted in a weird way.. 26g frames spaced with 32g inside those, 8 .3 ribbon with a 28/38g Clapton running down the center. all fused with 36g all n80 except the 28g which was KA1(couple different styles of fuse, I stopped caring lol)
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Last wrap twisted on me but it's a staple and wrapped the correct way. Woohoo. Still not real happy with it but at least I got one down. Didn't have enough for a dual but can always make some more. Need better swivels
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Dude I gotta tell you your Fraliens are just sick. Your wraps are perfect. Color shots look great. I mean extremely impressive. In the short time I've been a part of this forum I've seen you make some really awesome fraliens. I gotta make myself a pair this weekend. I think they are arguably the best vape. Great binding too. Your waves are tight and there's not a single mistake. When I do em I find the faster I bind the coil the tighter the wrap gets so I like to go along slowly for an inch or two on the framed stack and once I get that I just let em rip. I really enjoy seeing your fraliens great job man! You and @Pegleg Meg have just been killing it with the fraliens. Hopefully I'll have some time to build tonight after my 11 hour workday. I'll get some fraliens done and maybe get started on a staple helix, a build I wanted to improve on. @mach1ne inspired me to become good at the staple helix and I gotta do right by him.Some more fraliens for my Phobia RDA, squonking on the GBox...
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36n80 alien/6wraps-3mm/.13ohms I think
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thanks man. it was unintentional. I'm not exactly sure why it twisted over, prep was solid, but it did. I thought it'd look neat. I originally made it with a plain ol' 28g in the center and it was hard to distinguish from the ribbon. fwiw, the vape was a bit off for me anyways. pretty hot and harsh. came in around .10-.11 or so.
No vice but I'll probably pick one up today. Saw a video looked like it made it easier to wrap
I used to have my ribbon twist all the time on me. I think the key is in the prep work. Also using nylon pliers and keeping tension on the wire helps a lot as I'm sure you know. I recently did a staple helix and I watched as the ribbon twisted on the first wrap and I was like nooooooo! I think I know how to prevent it a second time. Thing is the ribbon can go horizontal and you can still get a quality vape from it so it's never the end of the world. It still gives you those flavor benefits you get from ribbon wire. I honestly have a hard time loving any vape that doesn't have ribbon wire in it at this point. Come to think of it I have to order some more haha.
That's a beautiful siteSome more fraliens for my Phobia RDA, squonking on the GBox...
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36n80 alien/6wraps-3mm/.13ohms I think
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Totally agree with you about the stretching. If you try to add more stretch to the wire while your binding you could end up giving too much tension and pulling the stack out of order. We have very similar methods of making fraliens as I agree with everything you said. I'm not really familiar with the Patinos Alien Makers but I'm gonna look into them for me its just a paper clip for the first couple inches and the off we go. I get the wrap real tight... if I don't screw up my groove from my anxious left leg bouncing up and down hehe. Glad you are back into your building groove. Sometimes I'll do a regular framed staple. I find high gauge framed staples vape nicely for me. I'm a sole N80 builder so what I like to do is make a single coil 6ply .5 ribbon/26g frames/36 or 38g wrap. I'm not knocking kanthal or stainless steel I think if that's your thing then more power to you, I just prefer the taste I get from N80. Some people say they can't tell a difference so I dunno, I could possibly be a weirdo. If I'm gonna dual them I'll use .3 ribbon instead of .5. I'm also a sole mech mod user, although I'll use my DNA250 from time to time to get some color for a photo. I'm no where near as good as catching color as you are, not even close, but its always fun to see a little color of some sort on a build. Hopefully tonight I'll have something new to post! I wanna do another staple helix but you need daylight for that sh*t haha. Be well man, looking forward to your next post.Thanks so much bro... I can’t tell u how much that means to me! I think I’m finally getting back into my building groove, feels good to be confident in my builds again!!!!! And I agree... fraliens are hands down the best vape possible... I don’t see how any other coil could top them. Hell I’ve said it before, even the regular framed staple coils vape amazing. I was vaping on them the year+ I took off from building. I could probably make those in my sleep now haha. But yeah, the faster you go wrapping the alien, the cleaner and tighter the wraps are going to be. I have a Pretty beefy stick of fraliens I made the other day that I wanted to try as a single coil,
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It was really great to make them because the frames were so large that I didn’t even need a slider holding the ribbon together with it... I was able to just let it rip the whole time and the wrap just came out flawlessly. I kinda wish I used some n80 because they would have colored beautifully with how wide of a stick it is!! But yeah, I generally do the same thing, I do about 7/8 rotations slow just to make sure the stretch is right and then let it rip. Another thing... if i see my decore isn’t stretched enough after my first few wraps I’ll stop.... rather then continuing to wrap with more tension on the decore to stretch it, I’ll get up and actually stretch it some more and then start again. I find having a perfectly stretched decore works much better then trying to wrap and use tension to stretch. Maybe it’s just a personal preference but I find it works out MUCH better and cleaner...
If you don’t have the Patinos Alien Makers I highly recommend you get them.... best sliders I’ve ever used. Most of the time I can let it rip and they’ll move down the wire on their own... that’s how my wraps get so tight most of the time, no stopping/starting/stopping/starting, etc..
Good Luck tonight!!!
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I have these for regular aliens, do they make ones large enough to the whole core, ribbon wire and all? That would be magic!Thanks so much bro... I can’t tell u how much that means to me! I think I’m finally getting back into my building groove, feels good to be confident in my builds again!!!!! And I agree... fraliens are hands down the best vape possible... I don’t see how any other coil could top them. Hell I’ve said it before, even the regular framed staple coils vape amazing. I was vaping on them the year+ I took off from building. I could probably make those in my sleep now haha. But yeah, the faster you go wrapping the alien, the cleaner and tighter the wraps are going to be. I have a Pretty beefy stick of fraliens I made the other day that I wanted to try as a single coil,
5(.5x.1k)/2(24k)34k Alien
It was really great to make them because the frames were so large that I didn’t even need a slider holding the ribbon together with it... I was able to just let it rip the whole time and the wrap just came out flawlessly. I kinda wish I used some n80 because they would have colored beautifully with how wide of a stick it is!! But yeah, I generally do the same thing, I do about 7/8 rotations slow just to make sure the stretch is right and then let it rip. Another thing... if i see my decore isn’t stretched enough after my first few wraps I’ll stop.... rather then continuing to wrap with more tension on the decore to stretch it, I’ll get up and actually stretch it some more and then start again. I find having a perfectly stretched decore works much better then trying to wrap and use tension to stretch. Maybe it’s just a personal preference but I find it works out MUCH better and cleaner...
If you don’t have the Patinos Alien Makers I highly recommend you get them.... best sliders I’ve ever used. Most of the time I can let it rip and they’ll move down the wire on their own... that’s how my wraps get so tight most of the time, no stopping/starting/stopping/starting, etc..
Good Luck tonight!!!
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In my experience .4 is not much harder .5 is a little bit more challenging just cause you need more tension or its likely to flop and twist on you (frames do help), and anything above .5, like .8 is virtually impossible, I mean I'm sure it's been done somewhere by someone but no matter how much tension you give it its gonna wanna twist on you. I think the only things .8 would be good for are like juggernaut coils where your wrapping two claptons with slightly spaced ribbon wire or Tiger Wire where it's twisted. .8 ribbon twisted with 24g is nothing that special to look at but it can be a nice vape if you need a build and don't have a ton of time. I personally don't keep any .8 ribbon.
