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About to wrap this framed staple. I still use hot glue as well. I figure glue it to sturdy it then clamp it. I don't build much single wire stuff anymore.
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Let me know if those mini clothespins are working out like that, I was putting the wire between the part closer to the metal hinges towards the middle but seems like they still were too heavy and wobbly
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Ahh man! I saw that the other day but think about why! I got to try that next time, put a length of wire between the little clamp and my swivels!
They work out well as long as it's not wider than the part that pins. It's a decent space and for a couple bucks worth a shot. Helps me a lot with ssfc. Can't use a ribbon slider for those the pins work great.
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yeah i tie my ends together with 38 or 40 (very tightly) them squeeze them flat with pliers, then i glue over that (and melt the glue into it). i find if i just glue the tip of a staple stack together i can still make it separate/deform when i put it in the clamp (3d printed or metal clamps). tying the end with wire helps keep the cores perfect while the glue deforms around them. i also give the glue glob a bit of a squeeze with nylon pliers as it cools down. not hard enough to squeeze down on the cores, but just to shape the glue as it cools so it fits the clamp easier and has more surface to clamp onto.
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is it hard to get glowing properly with different wraps in different places?
yeah i tie my ends together with 38 or 40 (very tightly) them squeeze them flat with pliers, then i glue over that (and melt the glue into it). i find if i just glue the tip of a staple stack together i can still make it separate/deform when i put it in the clamp (3d printed or metal clamps). tying the end with wire helps keep the cores perfect while the glue deforms around them. i also give the glue glob a bit of a squeeze with nylon pliers as it cools down. not hard enough to squeeze down on the cores, but just to shape the glue as it cools so it fits the clamp easier and has more surface to clamp onto.
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I forgot to say that, yeah I wrap with wire first too, then glue, ribbon or high gauge - lord knows I have plenty of wasted 38 and 40 to do that with
I'm not a fan of replaceable inserts, as hot glue is compulsory for keeping ribbon wire stand up vertical, and, for multi round wire as well as for protecting the drill bit inside the chuck, masking tape still goes a very, very long way IMO anyway. For people who overtighten their screws you could maybe consider moving from just screws to a bolt with a recessed nut, or maybe better yet, include an allen key with a torque that automagically prevents these people from always breaking things.For those wondering...KTX is back up in both colors...you know where to go
I have seen alot of people do this and I have tried it myself. It does make the spacing easier as it basically causing the spacing itself but the spacing is almost always more than you want if you want it to be tight together and the Alien swoop is more of a akward "Z" pattern, so they wont match as you start getting closer but the decore stretch matters, less the stretch = less "Z" pattern.
Not bashing any reviews at all, I wish more people were honest with me when I ask for feedback, I dont hear much negative and that sucks, especially when Im able to work on making the product better as we use them.
Ive hear alot of "slipping" problems, the majority of the people have have slipping issues use the clamps from everything from single core claptons to staggertons. The clamps were designed for working on wider builds/staggered nonsense and things that needed to be held together. The people that use the clamps for claptons dont seem to see that a single wire has a much bigger chance of slipping out due to its smooth surface and that makes it much harder to hold by pinching, this is why I continue to tell people to use a loop in their drill chuck for simple builds and leave the clamps for builds that call for them.
Other than slipping I havent heard much, I did fix the issues with screws stripping by adding more meat around the threaded areas on the swivel clamp. I do ask if anyone has any complaints to bring them forward....I would like to make them the best they can be. But at $25 for both clamps its already cheaper than any 3D Printed set and these were built to spin (not jump and sway with speed).
I have plans for Delrin and other material replaceable inserts for the "pockets" in the jaws that will help grip the wire and mold into the groves of the wire the more clamp tension there is....hopefully that solves the rest of the slipping issues in the future.
yeah i have a little box on my table i put my usable wire ends into. if i have a long strand, i cut it into 3-4 inch pieces. the box has a pile of ribbon on one side and high gauge wrap wire on the other. its a super handy thing to have easily accessible. if i considered that box a 'tool', and counted how often i touch it when im working, it is probably in my top 5 most used tools.
Thanks @mach1ne ! For this particular build, it ended up glowing very evenly from the center once the hotspots were worked out. I think that's because the current travels primarily through the cores of the build and then distribute out to the wraps. I could be wrong about that, but in this particular case, with the simplest of simple hybrid coils, it glowed pretty evenly.yeah i tie my ends together with 38 or 40 (very tightly) them squeeze them flat with pliers, then i glue over that (and melt the glue into it). i find if i just glue the tip of a staple stack together i can still make it separate/deform when i put it in the clamp (3d printed or metal clamps). tying the end with wire helps keep the cores perfect while the glue deforms around them. i also give the glue glob a bit of a squeeze with nylon pliers as it cools down. not hard enough to squeeze down on the cores, but just to shape the glue as it cools so it fits the clamp easier and has more surface to clamp onto.
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I think I did a 7 core once.. maybe it was 6, don't recall.. vape was waaaaay too hot for me lol I love the look of a big fat flat sfc though.. 4 is about it for me if I'm gonna vape it.. using 3 right now.. all this referring to 28g N80I could have taken picture of a coil from the other side then it's wouldn't be visible but i want to be fair to myself and i don't except mistakes i will try this later maybe with 6 cores even
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you might also try the little fob thingy off a hoody or jacket string. I occasionally use the clothes pins, but this little sucker is great for sfc/ssfc..
came in packs of 2 or 4, cant recall, from Walmart for like .97 cents
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Yeah no more than 4 cores is pointless for vaping
I just like to do it for coil porn prespective Good job! Looks clean
I think I'm too used to SS anymore. I love me some Nichrome, I used to hate SS. But was forced to make it work because I couldn't get anything else.3*28g / 38g / 38g all N80 SFC
the two outer cores are staggered with 38g the center is plain. all fused with 38g
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3x28 38 aliens vape so good on A mech. Nichrome is alright, but SS has more of a kind being it's lower ohms, smaller wire aliens.
Just a word to anyone looking here and thinking they would never be able to build these... We were all an outsider looking in at one point. I don't post pics because most of the time I don't want to fuss with my camera on the phone.
I am enjoying some alien framed builds... I tried staggs but think I may try building staggertons tomorrow.
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I would think that would hinder more than help but that's me. I think that once I find my Groove I'm good to go.I can't find one of these on a stand so here you go. Southern innovation.
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That's the cool thing tho, there are so many ways to shave a muff.
Last months build session I built a bunch of staggered builds. I have realized, that staggared builds (TO ME) are purely aesthetical. I get a better vape from higher guage wrap wire.
Even tho it looks cool, I would rather a regular framed staple vs a framed staggered fused Staple coil.
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Sorry for so many posts. Geez, I'm old school. I just use a piece of 40g wrap one end after I did my fold over I haven't needed to use glue.About to wrap this framed staple. I still use hot glue as well. I figure glue it to sturdy it then clamp it. I don't build much single wire stuff anymore.
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Me personally i love 3 core SFC with 3x26/36 specs wonderful vape
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More surface area generally means more flavor and vapor production. But there is definitely a point of diminishing returns. It just depends on what gauge and alloy wire you're using as well as the mod that will be used to power the coil(s).
Yeah ofc i think with something like 30-32 awg 5-8 cores might be quite nice still
I've found lately I love a 3*28/38 SFC myself followed closely by 3*26/36 or 38
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I have a pair of 5*30g SFC in the boneyard. Still prefer the 3*28 but not bad at all. Now I'm gonna have to remake a couple *sigh* lolYeah ofc i think with something like 30-32 awg 5-8 cores might be quite nice still
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Yeah ofc i think with something like 30-32 awg 5-8 cores might be quite nice still
I have a 5x28 single coil in a tank I like, 5 or more high gauge though, seems to gunk faster, in my limited experience. Good vapes, though
you might also try the little fob thingy off a hoody or jacket string. I occasionally use the clothes pins, but this little sucker is great for sfc/ssfc..
came in packs of 2 or 4, cant recall, from Walmart for like .97 cents
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What section do you find those doohickeys at? I'm getting some supplies today
Even just a simple 2×28/36 all Ni80 7 wrap 2.5mm ID dual coil SFC build at .26 ohms is still a wonderful vape on a series mech IMO, and, it isn't overly warm in the trusty Mason V2 (side airflow completely closed, bottom airflow only 1/3 of the way open... fairly short hard pulls). I wasn't sure before whether I should post the pic or not... or actually I just wanted to vape on it instead of taking a pic, but anyway, here it is now.
This is the coil that i'm really proud of just made it and i'm so happy 
28 cores and 36 stagg 
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28 cores and 36 stagg 
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This is the coil that i'm really proud of just made it and i'm so happy
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Man that is killer
you're talented man
PERFECTIONThis is the coil that i'm really proud of just made it and i'm so happy
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You're one of the best I've seen!This is the coil that i'm really proud of just made it and i'm so happy
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If it's Raymo approved you must be doing something right dude nice work
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Another Half Stag colored up a little bit ohms at .11 all N80. Happens to vape great!
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Ive got some Brass and Steel chinese spinners that actually spin very well...I think Ill try that, Im not sure how long plastic will continue to bend before it snaps and thats the only thing Id worry about with a plastic spinner.
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World's smallest Alien? 40g over 3x36g Nichrome 80. 2mm. 10 wraps. 2.5 ohms (yes, you read the resistance correctly). Mounted in my gold Vandy Vape Berzerker Mini MTL RTA. 10 watts on my Smok Q Box.
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World's smallest Alien? 40g over 3x36g Nichrome 80. 2mm. 10 wraps. 2.5 ohms (yes, you read the resistance correctly). Mounted in my gold Vandy Vape Berzerker Mini MTL RTA. 10 watts on my Smok Q Box.
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Might have you beat
But its incredibly difficult as you get that small, that still is quite the accomplishment!
Old as shit but about 50 years ago I did a 1 PLY of .3 Ribbon Aliened with 50g Kanthal D.
1st Pic is for size comparison, a Strand of 44g below the Alien, the Screwdriver is 2.7mm ID if I remember correctly.
There has been one other person to do the same with 52g but it wasnt as clean as it could have been.
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they're in the crafts/jewelry making section. where you find like pipe cleaners, jewelers wire, buttons, etc.
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that is absolutely beautiful dude!This is the coil that i'm really proud of just made it and i'm so happy
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cant find my macro. this is another lense that came with it lol.. lighting is non existant so that "helps" too lol
3*26g / 36g / 36g SFC center core is bare.
Figured I'd stick it in the ol' Govad RDA that I haven't used in forever.
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3*26g / 36g / 36g SFC center core is bare.
Figured I'd stick it in the ol' Govad RDA that I haven't used in forever.
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if you want, I can pick you up some tomorrow and head them your wayMan, I looked in two Wally Worlds today and couldnt find any
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Just take some off the hoodies at WalmartMan, I looked in two Wally Worlds today and couldnt find any
Personally I like using .4 or .5 Ribbon strips about 2" long and loosely wrap around the wire I need held together nad lightly pinch with nylon pliers....Ive never gotten along with those hoodie clamps thingys but I see many people who do.
I have an idea for a tool that may happen in the future to help. Think of 2 goon clamps (the thin bars) that would screw together, but would initially stay together from magnets embedded into there belly side. Maybe 1.5 turn screws to make it quick to move but still hold well? Another thing is they would cost around $8 for a set of 3 before shipping....so unless your really into it the hoody things or ribbon sliders may be a cheaper choice.
Just take some off the hoodies at Walmart
Personally I like using .4 or .5 Ribbon strips about 2" long and loosely wrap around the wire I need held together nad lightly pinch with nylon pliers....Ive never gotten along with those hoodie clamps thingys but I see many people who do.
I have an idea for a tool that may happen in the future to help. Think of 2 goon clamps (the thin bars) that would screw together, but would initially stay together from magnets embedded into there belly side. Maybe 1.5 turn screws to make it quick to move but still hold well? Another thing is they would cost around $8 for a set of 3 before shipping....so unless your really into it the hoody things or ribbon sliders may be a cheaper choice.
I’m sold hah
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I have some neodymium magnets that I use now and again that work fairly well, but would benefit from being shaped like the goon/apocalypse clamps instead of circles. the hoodie clamps work well though, in some cases. I like your idea though, I'd buy a set lolJust take some off the hoodies at Walmart
Personally I like using .4 or .5 Ribbon strips about 2" long and loosely wrap around the wire I need held together nad lightly pinch with nylon pliers....Ive never gotten along with those hoodie clamps thingys but I see many people who do.
I have an idea for a tool that may happen in the future to help. Think of 2 goon clamps (the thin bars) that would screw together, but would initially stay together from magnets embedded into there belly side. Maybe 1.5 turn screws to make it quick to move but still hold well? Another thing is they would cost around $8 for a set of 3 before shipping....so unless your really into it the hoody things or ribbon sliders may be a cheaper choice.
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Just take some off the hoodies at Walmart
Personally I like using .4 or .5 Ribbon strips about 2" long and loosely wrap around the wire I need held together nad lightly pinch with nylon pliers....Ive never gotten along with those hoodie clamps thingys but I see many people who do.
I have an idea for a tool that may happen in the future to help. Think of 2 goon clamps (the thin bars) that would screw together, but would initially stay together from magnets embedded into there belly side. Maybe 1.5 turn screws to make it quick to move but still hold well? Another thing is they would cost around $8 for a set of 3 before shipping....so unless your really into it the hoody things or ribbon sliders may be a cheaper choice.
Someone here uses Legos, it could be even something light plastic and friction-fit
That's okay man, I'm sure I can find a jacket around the house that has one lol!
Tonight was rough with the all ribbon alien stagger kicking my tush, gave up, Peekaboo Staple instead, just showing off that awesome ribbon stack
I did wrap some old rough sticks and clean all the coils out of all my atomizer mixedup boxes, going to send them to a lady on the forum
Tried a ssfc fast
I made a vapeable dual coil for my mech squonk and then quit
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Mini clothespins are even cheaper than the hoody things, and, the hoody things are useless to me anyway because they interfere with Coil Mother Fudger's spacing protection relocation program (navigate to 5:15 in the video below to learn more about the relocation program).Just take some off the hoodies at Walmart
Personally I like using .4 or .5 Ribbon strips about 2" long and loosely wrap around the wire I need held together nad lightly pinch with nylon pliers....Ive never gotten along with those hoodie clamps thingys but I see many people who do.
I have an idea for a tool that may happen in the future to help. Think of 2 goon clamps (the thin bars) that would screw together, but would initially stay together from magnets embedded into there belly side. Maybe 1.5 turn screws to make it quick to move but still hold well? Another thing is they would cost around $8 for a set of 3 before shipping....so unless your really into it the hoody things or ribbon sliders may be a cheaper choice.
Nice work Meg!Someone here uses Legos, it could be even something light plastic and friction-fit
That's okay man, I'm sure I can find a jacket around the house that has one lol!
Tonight was rough with the all ribbon alien stagger kicking my tush, gave up, Peekaboo Staple instead, just showing off that awesome ribbon stack
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