Psyclone Mods: Hadaly Vs. Entheon Vs. Citadel Triple RDA Review by KingPin!

[KingPin!]

Hi Folks,

I’ve been excited about being able to do this review for a long time, well I say a long time; I’m talking about my personal vaping adventure beginning properly in 2016, and being introduced to the world of squonking.

As it happens this is the same year that would coincide with the launch of one of my favourite RDA’s, and general love for single coil atomisers…I refer to it as my unicorn: the legendary “Hadaly RDA” from Psyclone Mods.

So that’s it then, job done KingPin!?…’Woah’ hang onto your fermenting fruit for the moment…In this review I’m going to do a head to head as I journey through Mac Carlson’s (with the aid of Brady Mills) creations in the form of the Hadaly RDA, Entheon/Hadeon RDA, and the Citadel RDA.



Before we crack on….ever wondered why the company is called Psyclone Mods?

Mac was inspired by, and learnt from a modder who was regarded as a legend for her community support, pioneering box mod creations, and wiring diagrams (you will recognise those diagrams to this day if you’re into modding) …that person I’m referring to was Mamu. Mac started out buying the rights to the cyborg logo we know today from a Russian artist, originally he was going to use the name “Cyborg” for his company name to suit the logo, but that was already used for one of the mods about at the time (recognise the typography font on the cyborg mod from fluid vapes anywhere?). Mac also wanted to pay homage to Mamu for being an inspiration perhaps “cloning” her persona as he created his own mods, so presumably he turned the “Cy” to “Psy” and what came of it was “Psyclone Mods”. He started out DIY modding using the Raptor 20A/120W chips in the Hammond B boxes, helping to put them on the map as the power houses of their time (this was at a time when Evolv DNA30 was in competition). He later moved through several mods until he launched his first RDA ….the Hadaly. With the company’s inception Mac’s mission was to deliver quality goods at an affordable price, so naturally moving production offshore seemed reasonable.

On that note, let’s get the designed in America, made in China elephant out of the way. I imagine some will snub it and say china can’t produce high end atomisers….personally I’d humbly disagree with that statement, although I do accept some of the concerns raised such as; sourcing materials locally helps to keep jobs, it’s about propping up the little guy, offshoring opens the door to “easier” cloning and Intellectual property theft….On the flip side others say “but we have more choice and easier access to goods, products get cloned anyway, and most importantly we have the means to afford it”….regardless of my personal feelings It’s what Mac decided he wanted to do, and what you’ll get with Psyclone.

So in honour bound tradition I purchased everything in this review myself, except that is for the Citadel RDA (and its black top cap) which was sent to me as a gift by someone who I’ve got to know well this past year, we chat most days about general bollocks…St. Roostifer (on Vaping Underground), this RDA means a great deal to me mate…thank you truly.

Without further ado…..I don’t like to make recommendations in my reviews, instead I present you with my findings to help bolster your research should you be interested in the products.


Specification Overview





About These Products





The Hadaly is a touch of old school compared to today’s atomisers, a time when form was sleek and lines simple, incorporating stylish engraving, accompanied by a brushed finish. It was also a time where function was still being explored with fresh ideas coming out. During its release clamps were all the rage, but this approach gave users the ability to just slip the coil leg under without having to pre measure and cut. The Hadaly offers vapers a small size, near perfection airflow for my liking, good quality, and most importantly magnificent flavour. It did have its shortfalls; such as low positioned airflow holes leading to easier overfill, it came with a lack of spares (1 clamp spare seriously?), tight build space (length wise post to post) meaning exploring exotic coils was an issue, and then you needed to worry about wrapping the coils the correct way which I always seem to forget….some say its overrated as a result, personally I think it’s the real deal and joined the game changers club, which is why I refer to it as my unicorn….to this day it still holds strong among the many awesome RDA’s out there.



Then comes along the Entheon (I’m ignoring the Kryten here on purpose as it’s a dual coil) – Understandably Mac wants to distance the next product from the previous masterpiece, he’s amassed a rich following with pressure to deliver, So he throws us in the other direction ….he gives us cyclops airflow (well sort of), a different squonking approach, a raised coil, and this time there’s definitely spares a plenty (seriously 4 drip tips in the little kangaroo testicle pouch), you even get a beauty ring to make it look pretty!

Sadly though with the hype building before the Entheon’s launch, it was announced the Hadaly would no longer be produced. Mac wasn’t happy with the original company making it due to questionable practices affecting him (see arguments offshoring up top), it slipped away into peaceful retirement becoming harder to find…don’t worry though it was later re-released through a new production company in the form of the Titanium edition.

Coming back to the Entheon though; one thing was amiss, the masses missed the Hadaly, and a lot of people were thinking, ‘well this is nice, but it’s not the same’, so to appease the followers of what came before; we saw the introduction of the Hadeon cap….it got it’s classic look back… and the pundits were celebrating. Was it worth the upgrade though? Especially for those who already outlaid a fair bit for this new item….you’ll find out what I think soon enough.


Finally we saw a break period…then out of nowhere we got the “Citadel coming soon” announcement. It didn’t even get that much hype when I first saw it, not really compared to the releases that came before it…or maybe it did?, maybe it’s just the vaping market that’s changed from 2016, I mean we’re so spoilt for choice compared to 3 years ago….there’s new products coming out every week, it’s in your face everywhere from the shills, to marketing spam, review plonkers like me, or a mix of all three...but its Psyclone Mods here, I mean come on mac came from humble beginnings, one man in his garage building mods and designing atomisers, it looks like he’s back to grass roots with similar lines, yet a better build deck, a more forgiving squonking approach…oooh and you even have a Ultem reducer!

 

[KingPin!]

Impressions, Build Quality & Assembly

Starting with the overall look …hmm ok called me biased on this but the Hadaly is iconic...how could it place anywhere else other than first in the aesthetics department. I’d say the citadel comes next because it follows closely to the original (at least on the outside), in fact when I first saw it I immediately thought of its older sibling, so that was an easy choice. In last place is the Entheon, it’s not the prettiest RDA out there in terms of its robot nipple form, although using the accompanying beauty ring does make a big difference for eye candy (especially with the Hadeon cap)….one interesting thing is Mac located the Citadel’s airflow holes at nearly the same height as the Hadeon cap, so if you own the Entheon and Citadel you can use the beauty ring for both RDA’s and it looks quite the part.



Next up is finish; I would say the Entheon comes out top, it’s absolutely spotless throughout, and machine tolerance on every part is spot on. Then I’d say the Citadel and finally the Hadaly. The move to the new production company was a good idea by Psyclone although I do prefer the metal used for the original Hadaly…. I don’t know if the Hadaly used a higher or lower grade steel over the later RDA’s but it reflects differently under a spot light and just has a fantastic brushed appearance, plus it’s harder to mark ….the machining on the original Hadaly was good but it’s a bit ropy in places, in addition there’s slight mould snags left on the insulators in a couple of places, I also had a burr left inside the airflow. Having said that the citadel had a QC issue as well ….the squonk pin hadn’t been machined out properly, and had to finish the job for them. I don’t expect to see that kind of problem on gear at these price points, each should be checked thoroughly so I was a little disappointed to be honest…this is the kind of thing that separates high end and mid-range to me, you pay more for quality and attention to detail, so words should be had either way here.



In terms of O-Rings I’d have to say the Hadaly is fantastic and offers perfect resistance on all parts, except if you try to use other 510 drip tips, it can be a bit tight. Next I’d give it to the Entheon only because I found the cap a lot tighter to get on and off, although the Hadeon cap is a little easier to use. Finally the Citadel; well I’m not sure what Psyclone was thinking here? the top cap is overly lose, especially once you get juice on those O-Rings…put it this way I wouldn’t trust picking up my mod using the RDA’s top cap…the Ultem reducer and drip tip parts are fine though. The reducer clicks into place nicely and stays put (I sat there putting the top cap on and off in quick succession for a good minute to test it and it didn’t budge).

Whist the Hadaly is the only one with a visible lip for the top cap to sit on, both the Entheon and Citadel have a hidden lip that sits under the cap which seals it up well enough, naturally if you are dripping its easier for juice to get under the base for the latter RDA’s, but the payoff is it gives it that seamless look...to be honest I haven’t had a real problem with any of them so ill score this one even.

Spares and what’s included….ok this one is going to be clear cut, whilst it didn’t come with the Hadeon cap and cost a little more upon release, the spares you get with the Entheon are amazing compared with the other two, although I would like to have seen more variation between the different drip tips in terms of height and bore sizes. Next I’d say the citadel and finally the Hadaly….You’ve got to remember though; the Hadaly was launched at a time when spares were a luxury, not a given compared to today’s standards.



Squonking - one thing I’ve seen is a narrowing of the squonk pin’s inner bore through the releases. I’m speculating this is a result of readily available softer bottles compared with what was about in 2016. Either way it takes a bit more effort to squonk the later RDA’s. Personally I like flush squonk pins….i.e. give the bottle a squeeze, hold it, then suck the excess back down, and where this is concerned the Citadel is a lot more forgiving than the Hadaly ever was, however I think the Citadel’s “sweet spot” for coil positioning is lower than the Hadaly; meaning over saturation leading to spitting occurs if you’re overzealous.

(How I position my coils)



The Entheon is no slouch, except it likes the bigger coils, and relies on a capillary action between pulls to soak the wicks due to its 6mm deep wells. I found it best not to stuff the wicking sections fully, instead leave the tails lifted away from the base of the deck such that it sucks up the juice as you hold the bottle.

So where does this leave us on the squonking front?…personally I like the Hadaly most, I know its controversial with its lower airflows and small depth juice well, but once you get the hang of how hard to squonk it’s just effortless, second goes to the Citadel. I need to be clear here its damn close, it’s not easy to make the Citadel leak, but that lower coil position offsets what they did with the airflow location. For me the Entheon comes in last only because the bigger coils it requires take topping up nearly every hit, if that wasn’t the case it would probably take top spot.

None of them are made for dripping in my opinion, a lot of people use RDA’s like these for flavour profiling and testing…The Citadel should get top spot simply because it so easy to change configuration…unscrew the little pin from the base and insert into the positive pin …then your dripping, plus having a loser top cap actually helps because centre filling isn’t an option. If it weren’t for the tight top cap though I’d have chosen the Entheon with its deeper wells, either way in final place would be the Hadaly….it’s just too much effort for my liking.

As the RDA’s have progressed so too have the chambers inside. The Hadaly started out with a flat ceiling and had the drip tip extending down slightly to avoid condensation hitting your mouth on the draw. The Entheon then adopted a two tier stepped dome; where the different drip tips worked to form a cone funnelling the vapour to you. The Hadeon cap kept a similar form, but flattened out at the top giving it its Hadaly like squat appearance. On the Citadel Mac decided to incorporate a very shallow dome with elements of the Hadaly’s flat ceiling and a drip tip that extending down to reduce spit back.




It’s difficult to say what the best approach is? Personally I’d say the flat topped domes provide a denser cloud experience. The two tier dome found on the Entheon has a tendency to be warmer on the draw since its funnelling vapour directly, although the top cap keeps cooler overall ….it’s really a personal preference thing as how you vape. I can see merit in the different approaches as they suit different builds, and bring out different flavour notes.....I guess one theme that has rung true is in the fact Mac keeps returning back to the flat top, so that should tell you something about what he likes in terms of chasing the flavour or receiving feedback from people to date….and with that said the Hadaly and Citadel are closely matched followed by the Hadeon and finally Entheon.

For this section I’d probably say the Entheon left me with the best impression overall...really good QC on it as there should be for its price…to be honest the other two need some work to bring it up to the same standard.

 

[KingPin!]

Coil Building and Wicking

These are all single coil 22mm RDA’s (my favourite type) all share 20mm deck diameters, airflow holes are all roughly the same dimensions 1.3mm – 1.5mm height x 2.7mm – 3.4mm width, it goes without saying it’s what Mac and Brady did with the layout and deck systems that’s changed throughout.

Starting with the Hadaly – whilst you can simply slip coil leads under the clamps and secure, I found the screw heads tiny and too easy to deform with the screwdriver slipping, also not getting a good amount of torque on them. In addition whilst the deck allows for a large coil diameter (8.6mm width between posts); you are limited by the length from one post to the other (5.2mm), and how much coil lead (or leg) you can squeeze under the clamp (2m lead width). Finally if you want the coil to be belly down (which I prefer) then you need to remember to wrap over and round. Whilst this doesn’t seem ideal compared to many we see today, the RDA doesn’t require great big stonking coils, in fact my go to has always been a fused Clapton of some sort at 3mm ID and this RDA laps it up.



The airflow enters the Hadaly’s chamber at a shallow angle in a crisscross pattern; both sides connect so you can run a pin straight across flat from one to the other. Being the angles are shallow you get quite a wide area of focused air hitting the coil centre which is probably why I’ve always found spacing my coils works great on it. Wicking is very simple, measure down to the top of the black O-ring straight cut and fold down, just make sure the centre area is clear and you’re away. I build this RDA so the bottom half of the coil is showing as I look through one of the airflow holes, for me that is the sweet spot and how I like vaping it.




Next up is the Entheon….the first thing they addressed was allowing people to spin the clamps so you can wrap the coil in either direction. In addition the screws accommodated larger screwdrivers which negated the problems mentioned earlier for its predecessor. Whilst these are very much a welcomed change, I think they missed a trick with the insulator sitting flush at the point you need to snip your leads, as it’s exposed to heat or could get damaged from repeated snipping. I felt they could have lowered the insulator just slightly from the cutting area.



They also put in a deep juice well, focussing on user feedback regarding the Hadaly leaking too easily. It does work although this RDA requires larger coil types to get the most from it, especially with the new airflow design and two tier chamber approach. I mentioned it earlier but with the capillary action I’m constantly squonking after every hit to make sure that coil stays saturated which is kind of annoying.

Whilst the airflow hole appears to be a cyclops, there is space underneath milled out in the deck in order for the Entheon to maintain the same flat crisscross pattern from the Hadaly. This time though the angles of entry are much steeper, so air focus at the coils centre is narrower….as such I think a non-spaced coil is the way to go.



One thing I struggled with was restricting the draw; it’s not really geared to do so in an equal way, they would have been better off using the velocity approach …screw the cap up or down to open up or restrict airflow, rather than twist side to side. The Hadeon does improve the situation slightly but doesn’t negate the issue completely.

Finally they narrowed the deck up, in facts it’s the tightest of the three at just 6.7mm…although I mentioned using larger coils, you will need to mindful of the diameter. I stuck to 3mm ID and it seemed fine even with the thicker wires. I found it sweet spot was where the top of my coil is in line with to bottom of the clamp



Last up is the Citadel – like me you’re probably thinking it’s the Hadaly reborn… well it’s not really; airflow for a start is raised higher but angled downwards. It wields the wider angled crisscross pattern of the Entheon, and has a wider focus area, as such it will work with spaced or non-spaced coils ok….Coil position is really interesting as well, using the reducer I position it so roughly half of the 3mm ID coil is sitting below the deck’s juice well line, take the reducer off for the larger coils and I can raise it up slightly which brings different parts of the flavour to the front. Personally I opted to keep it low outside of testing; this is the sweet spot for me (reducer or not)….of course positioning the coil so low is a complete ball ache, I would like to have seen rests cut out as it takes a little bit of mucking about to set the coil straight, and lower it into position.




We are back to using the thinner slotted grub screws, which is bad for torque, but due the screws sitting recessed it’s a little harder for the screwdriver to slip out of position, although as you can see in my pics I still managed to deform the heads. Gone are the clamps, instead we have the Oumier Wasp Nano styled mounts instead…we’ve seen this so many times over the past year, its tried and tested and just works, and I love how easy it is to build on them. If I were to critique the mounting experience I would say two things could be better…the grub screw needs a recess below it, popping up the leads as you tighten ready to snip...secondly the mounts are located towards the thinner end, meaning you really don’t have a lot of room to snip flush in order to avoid a short.

Otherwise wicking is very similar to the Hadaly, cut the ends short and keep the centre area free, its best to make sure you tuck the wicks back a fair way due to the angle of airflow. It sports the largest deck of the bunch both in width and length, exploring builds and positions is key to get the best from it, much more so than the other two



If I were to rank them in terms of my experiences above for this section I’d place Entheon 1st, Hadaly 2nd, and Citadel 3rd. They all need playing around with in terms of coil position; I just think the Citadel was the biggest ball ache in this regard. Mounting wise; the Entheon was easiest of the bunch with its larger screws and reversible clamps snagging all wire types easily, wicking isn’t particularly difficult on any of them, it’s just one of those things you get the knack of after a few re-builds … the Hadaly is the easiest of the bunch though in this area.

 

[KingPin!]

How’s the Vape

I need to start out by saying this section is always subjective, you might use different juices, diameters, coil builds, coil metals, wattage and wicking material, but it gives you an idea of what I think as I put them head to head in a few different scenarios.

General Notes for my Tests

• I personally like a warm vape with a fairly restricted draw so these findings are on that basis.
• I decided to keep the coil diameter the same across different builds (3mm) which works well with all of them.
• In the tables the result a: 1 = first place, and 5= last place. Having said that some results are really close, so unless I state otherwise assume it’s a close call.
• Drip tips are all stock, as are the caps used. For the Entheon I like the plastic 510 the most of the bunch so used that.
• All had the same wicking material and juice types
• I found my preferred coil position across all the atomisers before starting these tests

Test 1 – Low wattage simple build

• Wattage Range: 34W - 40W
• Wire: 24g Kanthal
• Resistance: between 0.5 – 0.54 ohms
• Coil diameter: 3mm ID
• Spaced Coils
• Draw: restricted Direct Lung

Citadel with reducer - Flavoursome, quiet and smooth; this low wattage is really what that reducer is designed for and does its job really well across the board, except I found the RDA does heat up a fair bit with the tighter longer draws I was taking.

Citadel No Reducer - Middle of the road out of the bunch for clouds and flavour, personally I think it lags behind the Hadaly here.

Entheon - best cloud performer thanks to the airflow, but there was too much air mix resulting in muted flavour. Also strangely it was pretty hot on the draw because of the funnel shaped drip tip.

Hadeon - was a bit of a flop using this build. Ok it was cool during chain vape conditions, but it’s a noisy bugger, also the draw and cloud production is somewhat lacking.

Hadaly - Flavour and Draw wise it performs very well, it’s really close to the Citadel with the reducer in fact…but falls behind slightly with the noise on the draw.


Test 2 - Low Wattage Clapton

• Wattage Range: 35W - 45W
• Wire: 26/36g 316L
• Resistance: between 0.49 – 0.52 ohms
• Coil diameter: 3mm ID
• Spaced Coils
• Draw: restricted Direct Lung

Citadel with reducer – gets hot compared to the rest, dropping the wattage down is very necessary to make use of it. Still it’s very flavoursome leaving it only just behind the Hadaly by a whisker. It was a really tough call though; the draw is still awesome same as the first test but vapour production was just ok.

Citadel No Reducer - Middle of the road out of the bunch for clouds and flavour, personally I think it lags behind the Hadaly in this category somewhat. I tried mucking about with coil positioning to rule it out but it made little difference.

Entheon – one of the best cloud performers thanks to the airflow, but there was too much air mix even restricted, resulting in muted flavour. Also strangely it was pretty hot on the draw via the funnel shaped drip tip

Hadeon - …is this thing on? Seriously at these early build stages in testing I’m underwhelmed by this additional extra.

Hadaly - King of the hill for this test, it lapped up that single core Clapton across the board, except it’s noisier versus all but the Hadeon.


Test 3 – Mid Wattage Fused Clapton

• Wattage Range: 50W - 60W
• Wire: 2x26/36g N80
• Resistance: between 0.25 – 0.28 ohms
• Coil diameter: 3mm ID
• Slightly Spaced Coils
• Draw: restricted Direct Lung

Citadel with reducer – still the hottest of the vapes here but unbelievable it still tackles the fused Clapton which I wasn’t expecting… if you purely want to flavour chase out of this bunch look no further, except know that it brings the sweetness out in an almost overwhelming way, I’d actually look to reduce my DIY mix percentages using this full time…..outside of that though it’s starting to show signs it needs putting back in the spares bag due to the temp, instead at this point I should really be using the citadel with its big boy pants on.

Citadel No Reducer – now it’s coming alive, it’s really close to the Hadaly here in the flavour department but I think the Hadaly just slightly edges it. The only thing I did find was the draw feel was kind of thin, like it wants to go more but I’m holding it back.

Entheon – The smoothest draw out of the lot of them and quietest as well …disappointing flavour still though…..”Scotty, I need more power!”

Hadeon - …flavour’s starting to pick up, but to be honest I’m still underwhelmed …. Get the Hadeon cap they said ….sail the ocean they said…….see the world they said?

Hadaly – Ordinarily I vape the Hadaly using this sort of build, anything fused Clapton like, i.e. flapton, staggered fused etc …over time this is what I’ve settled on as the best of the workhorse bunch for it, and whilst the reducer might have topped it for flavour, it’s still a great consistent performer and it’s better for that all day vape experience.

 

[KingPin!]

How’s the Vape Continued...


Test 4 – Mid to High Wattage Quad Core Fused Clapton

• Wattage Range: 60W - 70W
• Wire: 4x28/36g N80
• Resistance: between 0.17 – 0.24 ohms
• Coil diameter: 3mm ID
• Very Slightly Spaced Coils
• Draw: Semi restricted Direct Lung (just under stock for each)

Citadel with reducer – whoa! “kinda hot in these rhino’s” ….still puts out better flavour than the Entheon or Hadeon laughably, seriously though it’s not all that fun vaping it at this temp…call this one for science.

Citadel No Reducer – There it is...The Citadel comes alive with its big boy pants, punching out flavour like a gooden…bakeries, fruits, you name it, it’s on it. It does get hot though (my scores are using the metal cap), using the plastic cap it avoids much of that, and actually makes for a much more pleasant vape experience day to day especially with that squat drip tip. It still lags behind all of the others in the thick vapour production department though.

Entheon – A really nice vape all round with this sort of build and shows what sort of audience the atomiser is really gunning for. The flavour falls behind everything else here, but it’s still not a bad vape by any means compared to many out there, especially as it’s so pleasant to use.

Hadeon – Ok got to give it fair dues here the flavour takes a giant leap; leaving it close to the Hadaly, it shows how close these groupings really are to each other. It still maintains that irritating draw though, and unless you reduce it right down, it whistles…thankfully I like a restricted draw so it suits me. The longer I vaped it the more I enjoyed using it….don’t let the score groupings fool you this is a nice all day vape with this build.

Hadaly – still awesome…yeah it takes a backseat to the citadel in flavour slightly but it presents the profiles differently as well….you get a small packet of flavour after you draw, whereas the citadel it’s the whole way with super sweet. Whilst the Hadaly has never been the quietist atomiser out there, it delivers the whole experience really well.


So to close this section off I really like the vape from every single one of them in different ways, please don’t let the scores make you think otherwise, I’m comparing them to each other here and not other atomisers on the market, really they are up there at the top of their game and Mac has done a fantastic job of them all.



Hadaly (original) Pro’s

• [personal] Iconic design – looks the business on the squonker
• The build deck was ahead of its time
• Awesome flavour
• Thick vapour production
• [personal] The draw feel is spot on
• [personal] love the drip tip
• Prefer the metal used in its construction to the other 2
• O-rings and fitting are spot on
• Small size
• Caters for spaced coils and non-spaced coils
• Easy to wick and squonk (perhaps a little too easy)
• Drip tip is tall enough not to notice heat build up

Hadaly (original) Cons

• Lack of Spares
• Finish wasn’t as good as the others in this review
• Post screws heads are too small, easy to slip
• The clamps can make certain leads difficult to work with
• Need to get the wraps just right or you will be folding the legs in on yourself
• Shallow juice wells – learn it’s limit and it’s not an issue
• Machining messy in a couple of places and burrs left inside airflow

Entheon/Hadeon Pro’s

• Extra cost shows – it’s spotless
• Build deck set up is great – love those reverse clamps
• [personal] Get that beauty ring on and it looks great…Hadeon especially
• Great flavour (entheon)
• Fantastic flavour (hadeon)
• Great vapour production
• Entheon has a really quite draw with the bigger builds compared to the others
• Like the bigger builds but prefers non spaced coils
• Forgiving squonk – deep wells
• Easy to wick
• Smooth draw

Entheon/Hadeon Cons

• [personal] would like to have seen different drips tips ranged in bore and height a little more
• Compared to the others plays well only with larger coil builds
• Don’t like the inset airflow – it’s difficult to evenly direct air hitting coil at the same time by restricting
• Hadeon cap whistles unless you restrict it right down
• Larger coils require feeding …constant squonking required
• [personal] not really a fan of any of the stock Entheon drip tips all felt hot on the draw will use my own 510
• O-ring is just a little tight
• Insulator is flush where you need to snip your leads (remember to bend coil legs up)

Citadel Pro’s

• [personal] Clean lines, simple it definitely looks the part
• Awesome Flavour
• Good vapour production
• Small size
• Supports large range of coils, spaced or non-spaced
• Forgiving with coil positioning but will take playing with to get it just right
• Easy to wick
• Easy to build on
• The reducer isn’t just for show it’s functional for lower wattage flavour chasing

Citadel Con’s

• Requires low sitting coil to get most of it – bit of a pain to set it down low
• With the lower coil position spitting can be a problem if you over squonk…treat it like the Hadaly
• Leads once snipped are very close the edge – watch for shorts
• O-rings are too lose
• Quality control – this was bought direct from Psyclone ….the squonk pin wasn’t drilled out properly?!
• Post screws heads are too small, easy to slip

Final Conclusion

I think overall the citadel is the best all-rounder, it handles different flavour profiles important to me (bakery, fruits menthols), it caters for all the builds, its quiet, very smooth and flavour is top notch. I found it really hones in on those sweet notes much more than the others in the list …so if you have a sweet tooth this atomiser does it best. Finally just to add coil position matters on all of them but the citadel it’s actually quite forgiving ….I just think low is its sweet spot.

The Entheon…I love squonking on this atomiser, love building on it, and I like using higher wattages and builds on it as well. I don’t think it handles the flavour profiles as well as the others, and really needs those larger builds to come to life. The Hadeon cap does make a noticeable difference to flavour performance, but brings with it its own noise issues being it’s a retro fit (which could unsettle some). I think this one prefers the fruity flavours more than bakery with either cap.

The Hadaly still holds firm as a strong contender the flavour is marvellous across the board but then I opened this review with how much I love the damn thing, so it should come as no surprise really…not just in this line up but against all other RDA’s I’ve used to date ….people who have this atomiser and aren’t already invested in the other two will be thinking do I take the jump….well hopefully this review helps you a little bit in the choice making across different areas you may find important.


Thank you for reading my review. I hope you find the information useful, until next time KingPin!

 

[f1r3b1rd]

Awesome write up!!

Thank you, brother!!!

 

[St.Roostifer]

Phenomenal review KingPin! You've raised the bar for yourself yet again. Don't know how you do it but I'm glad you do. Awesome!

 

[KingPin!]

Awesome write up!!

Thank you, brother!!!

Thanks matey this one was my pleasure! Hope it helps in your decision for your replacement

 

[KingPin!]

Phenomenal review KingPin! You've raised the bar for yourself yet again. Don't know how you do it but I'm glad you do. Awesome!

Did an extra special one for you mate thank you again

 

[St.Roostifer]

Did an extra special one for you mate thank you again

And thank you for listening to me piss, moan, whine and complain on those bad build days when I'm looking at a mountain of of scrap wire and no coils to show for it.

 

[KingPin!]

And thank you for listening to me piss, moan, whine and complain on those bad build days when I'm looking at a mountain of of scrap wire and no coils to show for it.

Told you...you aren’t swearing at inanimate objects hard enough haha

Swearing is scientifically proven to help coil building same as the gargoyle hoof build theory

 

[St.Roostifer]

Told you...you aren’t swearing at inanimate objects hard enough haha

Swearing is scientifically proven to help coil building same as the gargoyle hoof build theory

Lmao! I have to up my game because I've always excelled in swearing at inanimate objects. Maybe I'm getting old? Fuck me I hope I haven't lost my touch!

 

[JuicyLucy]

Thanks for all the legwork KP - been on the fence on trying the Citadel - guess I still am, lol

A lot I liked about the Entheon, but those deep wells with 0 draining made it a no go for me, despite the fact I did love the flavor it put out

So either way, still love the Hadaly despite some of its shortcomings

 

[Letitia9]

So happy to see you get this one out. Lovely read, thank you.

 

[KingPin!]

Thanks for all the legwork KP - been on the fence on trying the Citadel - guess I still am, lol

A lot I liked about the Entheon, but those deep wells with 0 draining made it a no go for me, despite the fact I did love the flavor it put out

So either way, still love the Hadaly despite some of its shortcomings

My pleasure - I guess if you’re coming from a place; “is the citadel different enough to the hadaly to warrant the outlay?” ...I believe the vape is different yeah they aren’t the same, but with the simple round wire the reducer helps really as stock really wants those bigger builds in it to shine ...that’s the thing though it manages to cover all the bases really well (it drains the same way the hadaly does)....hard to beat that hadaly draw though I still think it’s the best of the bunch overall in this category even if it’s not as smooth as the citadel.

would I be happy vaping on any one of these as all day vape, yep absolutely and will use all of them regularly ...as I type this in fact I’m vaping with the hadeon cap right now with the quad core coil and loving it, sorry I can’t be of more help I like them all in their own ways.

 

[KingPin!]

So happy to see you get this one out. Lovely read, thank you.

thanks Letitia - long time coming this one so happy to have been able to do it finally for Psyclone, I know the boat has sailed for a lot of these in terms of new to the market and this review being buried in the heap pile ....but older gear is still worth a look ya know and hopefully the side by sides give people a better appreciation of thier differences.

 

[jwill]

This is an amazing write up.

 

[KingPin!]

This is an amazing write up.

Thank you Sir

 

[MrMeowgi]

Awesome write up. Hit on key points I'd never even think of. Great job

 

[KingPin!]

Awesome write up. Hit on key points I'd never even think of. Great job

Thanks very much mate

 

[JuicyLucy]

My pleasure - I guess if you’re coming from a place; “is the citadel different enough to the hadaly to warrant the outlay?” ...I believe the vape is different yeah they aren’t the same, but with the simple round wire the reducer helps really as stock really wants those bigger builds in it to shine ...that’s the thing though it manages to cover all the bases really well (it drains the same way the hadaly does)....hard to beat that hadaly draw though I still think it’s the best of the bunch overall in this category even if it’s not as smooth as the citadel.

would I be happy vaping on any one of these as all day vape, yep absolutely and will use all of them regularly ...as I type this in fact I’m vaping with the hadeon cap right now with the quad core coil and loving it, sorry I can’t be of more help I like them all in their own ways.

Maybe if I sold one of my Hadalys I could justify a Citadel

I have three brand new ones I never built on...

 

[KingPin!]

Maybe if I sold one of my Hadalys I could justify a Citadel

I have three brand new ones I never built on...

Fer shaw! you know youre gonna get it anyway

dunno though maybe sell something else keep those puppies

 

[KingPin!]

I had chance to have a one on one with Mac after he read my review, to pick his brains, and fire some questions his way. Below are the highlights from our 2 hour conversation...which he agreed to let me post up here as a follow up and perhaps explain his position from a designer perspective.

My questions are in bold, his answers below them...

I completed as much research as I could up front to do your bio justice. I wasn’t about before 2016 on the vaping scene, so some of it was tricky to piece together especially your founding, Mamu and box mod bio, how close was I?

My Artist was from Russia, in my opinion his artwork is second to none. He had created the logos long before I came around, and actually did the character designs for Diablo 3 among other games.. I contacted him to buy the rights to the logos. In all I bought three vectors from him, two of which I use frequently and you'll see for my company branding and on my RDA packaging. The Pred one, I've used on a handful of raptor box mods, but can’t use it outside of my early stuff due to copywrite (still love it though!)

Back in 2012/13 I was a fireman at the time. The fire dept. had an anti-smoking policy so I had to quit, I started vaping to avoid problems with the policy (although I stealth vaped so it didn’t become an issue for me). At the start I didn’t know about Ohm's law, electronics, soldering or any of the things I later learned, I found this extreme wealth of information through a couple of forums (E-Cigarette & Breakthru), vaping quickly became a hobby for me, and breakthru is where I met, and was able to seek answers from Cynthia Howder aka Mamu.

I decided to have a go making my own box mods, originally I was on the waiting list to buy the Hana Modz DNA 30. It got to the point I was kept waiting for what seemed like an eternity, then being asked to wait another 4-5 months, so I pulled my money out bought enough bits online to make 2 hammond boxes (no logos or anything, my company wasn’t yet launched at this time). There was a member on Breakthru who happened to live nearby, and he was able to come round to my place and help with the Raptor mosfet, after which i was ready, and created my first two blank mods.

I sent one to an E-juice company, they loved it, and said can we have 5 more because we reckon these will sell like hotcakes", naturally excited at the opportunity, and that someone might like my mods I obliged, ...those 5 sold quickly. They came back and said Mac can we have 10 more….I was amazed at the response. This was in 2014 my wife said to me "if you're going to do this, you need to think about a business name". So I registered my company you know now, bought the logos and trademarked it all at the same time...It's true there was a cyborg mod about at the time, but I always wanted something Science aligned, as a result I was always going to use "Psy" at the beginning....the clone part was because I cloned Mamu's box mod, or rather wiring design at the start of it all....so the name has personal meaning to me, it’s about my background and how I came to be in this industry.

I became friends with Twisted420 and sent him one of my Raptor boxes, and he did a video about it on YouTube,, this really helped put raptor on the map, and largely helped to drive the DIY Modder scene at that time.

When i started scaling up there was a shop I used named Mammoth Electronics, they would powder coat and print my logos on the boxes at the time. In the end I wanted to move away from the Hammond box, it was time consuming, and there were certain aspects about using the Hammond box i didn’t like; such as the classic "Hammond lean", the fact that raptor was sub 200w. I wanted my own enclosure, so I engaged a Chinese production company (the one I used to make the original Hadaly and Kryten) to create something I had in my own head; rather than use someone else's design....and from that the Evo mod was born..


Do you have a pet name for you logos Mac? And would you bring in others in the future

As it happens yeah I refer to them as

Cyborg Chick
Praying Robot
The Pred

I don’t have any immediate plans to introduce anything new now, brand recognition is critical and people are already familiar with my logos, so why fix something that isn’t broken.


When did you have the idea for the Hadaly? Was it one of those things you had in your head for years and wanted to try, or was there a concept and refinement needed to that original idea?


When I first started thinking about the Hadaly my favourite RDAs at the time were the M-Atty, Hobo 3.1, and the Narda. But none of them offered the vape I was looking for in a single package, instead each had elements I liked …for instance the M-Atty had the clamp system, the Hobo had flavour and cloud, except i made an ultem plug for it so I could vape it single coil, and the Narda had the single coil design, but man was it a pain to build on!....so I wanted to combine those elements into my own product, and try to get a vape that I would like. I drew out the concept on some graph paper, then transferred it into a computer design....and the rest as they say is history...

I've never struggled with visualising a product, and except for some changes to the clamp system compared to the Hadaly prototype it was largely unchanged. This is the same with all of my products that came out after. My design guy (Brady Mills) is a master at transferring my ideas into life...so little re-work is really needed afterwards.


In terms of Production Company what happened with the Hadaly? And why did you decide to go to the Titanium edition afterwards rather than stick with the same materials?


Let’s just say the original company I lost trust with... and leave that one there, In addition my move to the new company provided better quality control results, as did my confidence in the quality of the SS304 material (which I always used). My current contact with China is here is the USA. Since they are exposed to the laws here; the move is a positive one for me, and I've been happy with it since, it’s all part of the journey though, and learning as you go.

The reason I went to Titanium for the new Hadaly is because there were so many Hadaly clones about, it’s an expensive material and machining it chews through tooling; so really it’s a hassle for clone companies to use, instead they tend to use cheap aluminium to replicate it, which is easy to spot.


There’s a lot of clones on the market, particularly for your products, how do you feel about this?, and are there any signs consumers can look out for?


China Clones everything, not just vape gear but guns, electronics, machinery etc. you name it, so cloning vape gear is easy for them. You have to remember here; it doesn’t matter where the product is made in the world, all they need to do is to buy 1 original vape product. They'll have people scouring companies to get hold of that one, it doesn’t matter how much its costs, because their returns far outweigh that cost, they use highly accurate measuring equipment and reverse engineer it - then it's there for them to use almost 1:1

How do I personally feel about clones, its horrible having it happen to you, its theft plain and simple! Don’t get me wrong, I understand some people aren’t in a position to outlay larger sums of money, heck i was in that position myself once...my view now is the market isn't what it once was, with wider access to alternatives, there's just so many products on the market now, original affordable ones at that. Really the same excuses people used 2-3 years ago, such as "i just want to taste test it" doesn’t wash anymore, any excuses people use to justify buying clones are really to make them feel better about doing a bad thing...we both know that.


Is it correct that all of the ideas you had were back before the Hadaly launch?


Yes I did, and I tried to create something throughout my products to reach out to different sectors of the vaping community. I have all of the earlier prototypes knocking about here. I still have a handful of designs left that haven’t yet been released from this earlier set, I'm just trying to spread the releases out due to the deeming regulations over here which take us up until 2022. It’s frustrating and concerning. After this date who knows what will happen to Psyclone Mods, we may be in a position where we can no longer release any new products which will be a sad day for me indeed.


Do you find the pressure to deliver tricky to deal with? After all not everyone out there has a huge hit on their first launch, what’s that like?


I've been fortunate and I happened to be in the right place at the right time throughout my vaping ventures. To this day I find every release nerve-racking, I create these products because it's how I like vaping, but I'm mindful that I'll never make 100% of people happy. One person’s cons is another person’s pro's, and so it goes, I just hope through the different products I've launched enough people like using at least one of them.

Except for a handful of reviewers I send products to, I don’t read social media comments on any platform; in fact your written review is the first I've read in a long time. This isn't because I don’t care, I only have so many hours in the day, and it's time I can’t afford to use in terms of getting sucked into it. I have a company to run, and a family to support, they need me there and I can't do that if I’m engaged in those activities. Plus it’s not good for the morale when people don’t filter their thoughts.

In terms of “can I live up to the Hadaly launch again?”, no I don’t think there can be a time that experience can be lived up to again, the market has changed significantly since, with products coming out every week from everywhere, so unless conditions were re-set it's impossible to repeat that same explosive journey now.


......
End of part 1

 

[KingPin!]

You had an RTA I saw as a prototype, why did you choose to focus on RDA’s in the end?, and do you have any plans to release a tank to the market?

I do have a tank, but I love squonking, I'm a firm believer in the KISS (keep it simple stupid) mentality, in terms of "if it isn’t broke don’t fix it", so unless I see a need to; I will stay on the path I’m on and ride that squonk train.

2 to 3 years ago squonking wasn’t as accessible as it is today and certainly wasn’t mainstream, in fact at the time I was saying to friends at a couple of mod companies "you need to take those expensive squonk mods, and make them more affordable, because this thing is going to explode”. They scoffed at me at the time. It turns out I was right; surely enough the market saw that explosion of 3D printed mods coming from everywhere, and squonking was both big business and affordable to the masses. They later contacted me to say they wish they had taken action sooner.

In addition, to my knowledge the Hadaly was the first RDA that came equipped with a squonking pin. At that earlier time people had two options; drill the pin out themselves, or pay to get a squonk pin, and then pay even more to get it shipped to them. On top of that then they had to pay extra costs for those lovely soft bottles....I wanted to change this practice, and let people enjoy squonking as I did out of the box. This I believe was pivotal to making the Hadaly the success it was, as it made flavour chasing & squonking more affordable.


Customisation is big business for vaping, stores like signature tips sell the Chameleon drip tips for example; which a lot of consumers like. Other vendors sell aftermarket top caps. Out of interest is this something you’d ever tap into yourself?

No and there's several reasons for this; Firstly is my KISS mentality in terms of keep the colours and options to the basics. In addition I like to leave something for the little guy and respect custom companies for their work (remember my Modder background here) and I just wouldn’t want to put them out of pocket.

Plus these companies have a feel for colours and what pockets of communities like. If I did all that centrally, not only would i put them out of business, but I'd have to sit on a bunch of stock that I might not be able to sell to different markets, finally all this optionality would increase the base costs of my products, which is something I've always tried to keep down for people.


Would you ever release a standard 810 drip tip RDA in the form of the single coil RDA?

Personally I find 810 tips diminish flavour, and as I said before why fix something that isn’t broken. I'm a flavour chaser so it just doesn’t belong on one of my products.


Across your products I’ve noticed a natural transition in that the Hadaly was a flavour chaser, Entheon was for higher wattages and the Citadel was a hybrid of both, was this by design why did you choose these, and what comes next?

This wasn’t my intent, I just wanted to create great flavoured atomisers with different features that people might like, and except for my signature X airflow hitting the coil across them all I believe I delivered to that through different posts, caps, airflow placement, squonking approach....none are the same.

Actually while we are on this question, I picked up from your review the Citadel has lose O-rings, this was by design due to the reducer. If I had made the top cap like the Entheon (which is stiffer to remove), when people pulled the top cap off they may well have damaged that reducer, and then people would come back and said "it's a failure, or seek recompense because of this or that"....It was a catch 22 for me, and you can't please everyone here, but at least you know now why I decided to make it that way.


Was the Hadeon cap always on the cards for the Entheon? Or was it one of those things ‘which cap do we release with it first’, or was there a “wait a minute” moment …”why don’t we do it this way instead”?

I don’t like going backwards, I had the Hadeon designed before the Entheon launch, but I said to my team I don’t want to release it because I felt like it was tapping into features of the Hadaly. …so it was never actually supposed to be released.

When the Entheon launched we saw some people were using Hadaly caps and all sorts, and there was a demand for it out there. In the end due to popular demand, I relented and released it, which gave users the ability to have a more restricted draw with its smaller air holes.


So why the change of approach for squonking on the Entheon, was it to appease the masses as I said, or was there a design decision process with it?

As you said in your review the Entheon was designed for higher wattages, I wanted to incorporate a retaining wall to close the chamber up and improve flavour, but also to make it as leak proof as possible. This was the reason I took this approach and I think it works great in this regard.


With 4 drip tips on offer with the Entheon, how did you land on the bores, width and height, would you have liked to explore other options on them?

It really comes back to the keep it simple and keep costs down for the consumers…with all the styles out there, these are the tips I liked using, and I think the bore and height went best with the RDA, so made two of the SS304 metal tips, and two of Delrin (one with a slightly different shape) offering 3 vaping styles.


I’ve noticed across a number of atomisers companies have lowered their drip tips shorter and shorter to make them more aesthetically pleasing, or perhaps to enhance flavouring, what are your thoughts on this practice?

I’ve always liked a smaller profile drip tips, something that blends into the features, and makes it look smaller on the mod, so for me personally the lower the better. Having said that; I pretty much exclusively use a plastic top cap, so the lower tip doesn’t matter where a metal cap would naturally heat up.


With the Citadel, what are your thoughts when people refer to it as the Hadaly but different?

Other than my signature X airflow feature and obviously its diameter, it’s not the same in any way and you’ve now seen that yourself and covered it within your review.


In terms of QC what lengths do Psyclone go to ensure your products enter the market as you want them to?

I can't personally check every one; we sell in too larger volumes, so my quality control occurs within the place of manufacture. There they package and check off every part to make sure everything’s included, but ultimately it’s people are doing the final checks, so some things do slip through, such as that squonk pin issue you had. I stand by my products 100%, and anything like that reach out, and I would replace it no problem for you.

Since moving to the new production company though, I have seen a large improvement in QC...in the first 5000 Citadels made I've heard of 20 minor issues such as the one you experienced which is a 0.4% issue rate.


What was the thought process behind the move away from the clamp system for the citadel?

Different people like different things, whilst I personally love clamp systems ...and by the way the Hadaly clamps are my favourite in this regard (seriously I can rebuild that RDA in under a minute), but I know some people prefer a screw system, so wanted to make sure there was something for them there.


Are you planning to get back into mods again at any point? Perhaps a Squonker to go with your RDA's?

We shall see


When you use these RDA’s what’s your favourite build and coil position for them?

I showed you my video with my computational airflow dynamics, every single one of my single coil RDA's are made for the coil jig to be rested on the edge of the deck, and that is where I position them myself.

Despite running these simulations though there are so many variables, such as how hard people draw, how you packed the cotton, wire type, wattage used, climate, etc. the list in endless...all i can say is that is where i position it.

The reason we didn’t add notches into the deck for people like you who like positioning the coils lower, is some people like angling the coil, so adding notches removes the ability to do that, and I didn’t want to remove that for them.


Do you have any regrets, or rather things you would like to have done differently as you went along?

I don’t have any regrets, I've learnt as I’ve gone, and get a buzz from doing what I do. For me it’s about seeing those smiles on people’s faces and knowing something I created made a difference.


Are you with us for the long Haul in the vape scene, or do you see a time where vaping will be driven underground again for the known brands out there?

Of course I'd love to but I'm limited with my arsenal unless things change with the FDA's position. its getting pretty crazy though being forced to add "This product contains nicotine for instance" I mean come on it’s a metal part? There’s no nicotine contained in it whatsoever, it's just out of control really and I just hope this settles down in time, stop focussing on the hardware like they are.

.....

End of part 2

 

[KingPin!]

Logistics and distribution plays a key role in getting you products out there, is there a trade-off controlling everything yourself, or using other companies to help and what have you learnt with this?


Sure there is a trade-off, but my philosophy is let the product sell itself. If people want it ….give it to them. People are going to get hold of your product whatever happens, and if you have small batch runs controlled by you due to cloning fears, well just go back to what i said earlier about cloning, it’s going to happen anyway so you may as well make it work best you can.

I use 3 distro's US/ UK and France, and Wholesale myself elsewhere that way nobody crosses over and it keeps everything simple, making sure my products are accessible for all.


My final question ….If you were going to a desert island (power issues aside!) and you could only choose one set up what would you choose? And what about juice, or rather flavour?

This is a tough one….well…you say I have unlimited supply of power right?

<KingPin! - yep an OEM is churning out fully charged batteries from the other side of the island just for you>

Hmmm well…I’d have to go with..........the Citadel, with a regulated squonk mod of some sort, and I’d vape this Naked Dragon Fruit flavour I love.


End of interview...I'd just like to say it was great talking to man himself behind this lot, I was humbled he actually read my review, and fucking ecstatic to get some time with him.

 

[jwill]

Thats freaking awesome dude. Sounds like a very well grounded guy and in a good place.

 

[KingPin!]

Thats freaking awesome dude. Sounds like a very well grounded guy and in a good place.

He’s a genuinely nice guy ya know, it’s not easy opening up to a stranger but if I gleaned anything from the interview and my time speaking to him, its that he’s sincere, genuinely cares and is humbled he is where he is.

 

[MrMeowgi]

Man what a great writeup. And how long did it take to come up with those questions. Like an investigative reporter

 

[Letitia9]

Thank you for sharing this with us KP. Enjoyed it quite a bit.

 

[St.Roostifer]

Thank you for this kingpin! Very cool he sat down with you by phone for two hours discussing their background and their products. Well done!

 

[KingPin!]

Man what a great writeup. And how long did it take to come up with those questions. Like an investigative reporter

Hahaha, I dunno mate I guess for me this one was easy for me, I’ve been following Psyclone from the beginning after Lucy first went through the squonking ropes for me in my nooby squonking thread here...So a lot of this has been nearly 3 years in the making!

 

[MrMeowgi]

Hahaha, I dunno mate I guess for me this one was easy for me, I’ve been following Psyclone from the beginning after Lucy first went through the squonking ropes for me in my nooby squonking thread here...So a lot of this has been nearly 3 years in the making!

Pretty awesome man.

 

[KingPin!]

Thank you for sharing this with us KP. Enjoyed it quite a bit.

Thank you for this kingpin! Very cool he sat down with you by phone for two hours discussing their background and their products. Well done!

it was i was saying to bird before I arranged the meeting with Mac I hope I don’t get star struck and end up a gibbering wreck haha

 

[St.Roostifer]

it was i was saying to bird before I arranged the meeting with Mac I hope I don’t get star struck and end up a gibbering wreck haha

I would say mission accomplished! Now if only we could get your wife to post the audio of you squeaking like a 16 year old girl at a back street boys concert when the phone rang to do the interview.

 

[KingPin!]

I would say mission accomplished! Now if only we could get your wife to post the audio of you squeaking like a 16 year old girl at a back street boys concert when the phone rang to do the interview.

Cheeky bugger ....and for your information it was the Cartlon Dance

 

[St.Roostifer]

Cheeky bugger ....and for your information it was the Cartlon Dance

LMFAO! Oh I like that so much better! Any man that is not only willing to do the Carlton dance but happily admit to it, is alright in my book!

 

[JuicyLucy]

2 to 3 years ago squonking wasn’t as accessible as it is today and certainly wasn’t mainstream, in fact at the time I was saying to friends at a couple of mod companies "you need to take those expensive squonk mods, and make them more affordable, because this thing is going to explode”. They scoffed at me at the time. It turns out I was right; surely enough the market saw that explosion of 3D printed mods coming from everywhere, and squonking was both big business and affordable to the masses. They later contacted me to say they wish they had taken action sooner.

In addition, to my knowledge the Hadaly was the first RDA that came equipped with a squonking pin.




End of part 2

Smashing top-notch well done - you both did vaping a huge favor with this!

Just for the record, the Chalice by Mark Bugs was the first BF ready RDA to hit the market, circa 2011 or 12

He is right though, prior to 2016 or so, we had to mod the vast majority of our atties to squonk

When FatDaddy started selling squonk pins, the squonk world rejoiced

Us minority Squonkers would go nuts, waiting to see if we could mod the atties ourselves, but willingly shelled out big bucks and precious time away from our new acquisitions to get them "Catfished" ie: modded by CatFish, who was well-known as THE attie modder at the time

Hadaly is still one of my top three flavor atties of all time

Long may you both squonk and well my friends

 

[f1r3b1rd]

Fantastic interview!!!!!!

Thank you both

 

[KingPin!]

Fantastic interview!!!!!!

Thank you both

No problem brother thanks for putting up with me squealing like a girl as Roo put it got your questions in there for the tips mate - at least now you know

Smashing top-notch well done - you both did vaping a huge favor with this!

Just for the record, the Chalice by Mark Bugs was the first BF ready RDA to hit the market, circa 2011 or 12

He is right though, prior to 2016 or so, we had to mod the vast majority of our atties to squonk

When FatDaddy started selling squonk pins, the squonk world rejoiced

Us minority Squonkers would go nuts, waiting to see if we could mod the atties ourselves, but willingly shelled out big bucks and precious time away from our new acquisitions to get them "Catfished" ie: modded by CatFish, who was well-known as THE attie modder at the time

Hadaly is still one of my top three flavor atties of all time

Long may you both squonk and well my friends

Sweet thanks for that info Lucy that really helps fill that gap ...also thank you for taking the time and patience explaining, and getting me into the whole Squonk thing when I first joined here

Really is my favourite style of vaping ...little 22mm single coil RDA and I’m happy just there

 

[tac_driver]

Excellent write up an interview

So what's next Narmods NArDA, NArCA, NArBA?

 

[KingPin!]

Excellent write up an interview

So what's next Narmods NArDA, NArCA, NArBA?

Thanks mate ....I’ve got to knock out this battlestar Squonk review next ...I’m waiting to see if the second bottle breaks so it might be delayed

After that I’m planning on doing a Van and Del triple ...recently managed to complete their RDA set

Soul S Vs.Jazz Vs. Poet

After that I’m hoping to do 5A’s Basic (Black Titanium edition)

will have to see what my schedule is like though as I don’t like testing too many at once and hate even more rushing out reviews, these RDAs I bought myself so if other stuff comes in from manufacturers it’ll need to take priority or wait haha I’ll gauge it as I go

 

[sheepeck]

Maybe if I sold one of my Hadalys I could justify a Citadel

I have three brand new ones I never built on...

Ohh, it is pity you live so far - if Alaska is the place. Otherwise I would ask whether you actually would sell one of your Hadalys. But with me living in Europe the postage would increase price too much I´m afraid ... I will have to search for it somewhere around here.

 

[JuicyLucy]

Ohh, it is pity you live so far - if Alaska is the place. Otherwise I would ask whether you actually would sell one of your Hadalys. But with me living in Europe the postage would increase price too much I´m afraid ... I will have to search for it somewhere around here.

Actually, I just moved to Hawaii from Alaska

I did end up buying a Citadel and kept the Hadalys; I liked the Hadaly better than the Citadel and ended up selling the Citadel

 

[sheepeck]

Actually, I just moved to Hawaii from Alaska

I did end up buying a Citadel and kept the Hadalys; I liked the Hadaly better than the Citadel and ended up selling the Citadel

Ha - you must be kidding.
From Alaska to Hawaii. From snow to scorching heat.
I love Hawaii - couple of years ago I spent several months on Maui - just surfing and freediving. I love the place. It is pity I didn´t manage to find a job there and didn´t stay there for good.
BTW - is there any, even theoretical, chance that you would agree with selling one of your H´s?

 

[JuicyLucy]

BTW - is there any, even theoretical, chance that you would agree with selling one of your H´s?

Highly unlikely - but I never say never

 

[sheepeck]

Highly unlikely - but I never say never

I understand. Anyway - thank you. Cheers.