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RX200 tipped over and brain exploded, please help

skizzums

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Hello, I am posting about my RX200, it has suffered from a fall of less than 3" (from console into the cupholder) and has serious malfunction. I am hoping this could be an easy fix, i haven't had this device long and i really like it. I will admit that although i am highly mechanically inclined, i am not well versed in electronics, even though you'd think as much vape stuff that i buy i would have a basic understanding of the guts...... anyway, let me explain what happened and i would crap rainbows if anyone could could troubleshoot this.

RX200, matched one day old 25r's at 3/4 power, plugged into cigarette charger( i know, i know, this is a terrible idea and have already lost a NEBOX the same way but i'm a paramedic and am stuck in a truck for 24hrs at a time, a porable NiteCore is comin soon), device is on flat surface next to empty cupholder and simply falls into holder as i turn. Mod landed on it's back where the single battery pyramids over the two others, usb plug is still connected and is facing straight up and, as far as know, did not seem to get impacted(but i can't say for certain, but i don't believe it's part of the equation). immediately pick up mod and try to vape, it says LOW BATTERY and the battery icon is empty(these batteries just came off the charger an hour prior so i knew this was not the case). The device then said LOCK and turned off. I should have stopped messing with it then, but i wasn't thinking clearly, turned it back on and showed same dead batteries, then lock and then off. At this time i noticed the body of the device is getting HOT!!! I remove batteries immediately and set mod down and let cool. I have a back-up mod in my bag, a basic Sigelei 50w, and thinking this may be a battery issue, i check each battery individually and they all show full battery and fire fine. I put the Wismec up until later.

Getting home and getting a chance to further investigate the RX200, i find that i can plug in the device and cycle through all menus/screens/options as the device usually works. As soon as i add batteries, the screen gets REALLY bright and device locks and shuts off and body of device is hot. So i can only assume/HOPE that the chip is still fine as is the USB etc. My thinking is this must be a short/damage to something in the back/battery area of the device. I did take front plate off and reveals no noticeable damage, have yet to remove the battery box held in by the top/bottom screws.


thanks for taking the time to read all of that, i was just trying to be thorough, i am hoping that some experienced hardware folks will know what this is right away. This happened Wednesday morn, immediately jumped online to replace it, but ordered a Cuboid instead since VAPORJOE sent me an email with a good coupon code. It was a very tough decision, especially with the new RX200 colors out now, but i felt that if the RX200 is this fragile it would be silly to immediately order another. Although i am initially impressed with my Cuboid that showed up today with lightning speed,I know that even though it's upgrade-able to 200w, it has more limits on power and i am really hating seeing my broke down RX200 weeping on my dresser(no way a knock on the Cuboid, super nice quality mod with a TON of features and TC's that seem to be more on point than the RX200, for like 36$ shipped to door in 48 hours). I have tools, solder/iron, multimeter(with SOME knowledge on how to use it, but not much) and confidence in being able to fix things, so please tell me what i'm looking for. While i wait for responses, ill try to find a Torx bit to remove the frame screws.


PS- after re-inserting the batteries the last time, IIRC the screen displayed TOO HOT(?) before shutting down, and i definitely smelled melting of plastic that seemed to coming from frontal area, but even after that it still works fine when only plugged in via usb with cells removed. These events of heating/locking/powering down happen in a matter of seconds or as soon as i press the fire button. I know i shouldn't have ket trying, but i just couldn't grasp how such a small event could cause a total failure, denial?? but only did it three times and really fast, hopefully i didnt damage something that could have otherwise been repaired.
 

mach1ne

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something is broken in the battery connection. dont put them in again. take it apart, theres a good chance youll be able to spot it and possibly fix it if you can work a soldering iron. there might also be something conductive loose floating around in there.
 

skizzums

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thanks. that's my assumption, that something must have happened to a terminal or battery wire since the frame is heating up. just wanted to get some others veiwpoint before i let my assumptions take control like usual. I am bringing to work this morning and hope to find some time to get it apart after purchasing the right bit. i will check back here for advice and update at some point.
 

mach1ne

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good luck. maybe get it apart and post pics. if the chipset is still working via usb power the problem is definitely the battery area, and afaik theres nothing but wire between the batteries and the chipset so it should be easy to figure out...

as i type this i realized possibly the 510 wiring is another point of failure. try to get a look at/remove that and check it for hot spots too...
 

skizzums

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okay, i had dissected the RX200 and looked over everything dozens of times since last week. I can find no apparent issues with any terminal/wires/connection, absolutely nothing. There are no burnt spots on the interior powder-coating, no weakened wires or deformation of the insulation and i cannot visually see anything remarkable on the board. I did find thin layer of juice between battery enclosure and body of mod, but i can't see that being the ultimate reason for failure since device malfunction appeared directly after a fall. As for now, i will clean and reassemble and see if problem gets resolved by refitting parts as they should be, i could not tell the orientation of terminal parts before removing the battery tray.



BUT........ luckily i came to this forum and posted my very sad and traumatizing experience. A fellow member, Neunerball, messaged me and offered to send me his own very lightly used RX200:xD:. He refused my offers of money and/or goods and the package showed up in a day due to our close proximity. The mod looks brand new and is black unlike my current, and broken, white and cyan. My wife has been enjoying the Mad Hadder V2 and assumed ownership of the new device after i regrettably told her i could put in the cyan panels. We ordered the black/cyan mad hadder from fasttech and i will be back on my twisted until it arrives :(. Awesome community here and i cannot thank Nuenerball enough, literally am a loss for words, amazing gesture. I will keep you posted when i piece the broken mod back together, which may take some time since we have the new mod to vape on, if still screwing up then i may just make it a project since i have always been curious about building a unreg.
 

VapeVillian

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Props to Neunetball. Glad to hear you got another device. There's two things I suspect happened. First, when it was dropped, the governor was damaged. Second, the wires from the batt to the mod were damaged. Probably the negative spring loaded on the outside battery. I'd just rerun the wires and see if that works.



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skizzums

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yeah, that's the plan, rern the wires and see what happens. i think i may go ahead a plan on rerun the wires twice and do it the first time where the board can stay connected upon removal, so i can possibly see what's going on or at least get a better understanding of the vairious symptoms and where they are happening. who knows, it'll probably work, but then ill forever be wary of using it
 
My rx200 just shit the bed, when I put batteries in the watts go from 30 all the way up to max by itself every time now and I don't know why!? I haven't dropped or done any crazy builds there should be no reason for this?
 

Zamazam

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Or it got at lot of eliquid down the 510....
 

MannyScoot

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Juice down the 510 doesn't blow her up..... I had one in my rear pocket during a motorcycle accident, using .10 builds on it and with a Tank by Scottua that has heavy condensation going into the 510 and she still worked for a year..... I just had her rewired with 14gauge a new Varitube v2 and new hydro dipping...... She's ready for another year......

NOW
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Before...IMAG1825_1_1.jpg

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The button isn't stuck it was the first thing I looked at, tried fresh batteries, took the front plate off can't find anything obvious, no juice down the 510. I'm at a loss, guess I'll just buy a new mod
 

VapeVillian

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To bad it didn't happen last weekend. RX200's were $23 and 200S were $29

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MannyScoot

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The button isn't stuck it was the first thing I looked at, tried fresh batteries, took the front plate off can't find anything obvious, no juice down the 510. I'm at a loss, guess I'll just buy a new mod
Open her up and see if there are loose cables..... The board is good..... Something is loose inside...... Look at a YouTube video on taking an RX200 apart..... Don't give up.....

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MannyScoot

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They advertise a couple..... Then they disappear...... Hard finding one for $29.00..... I know they are cheap when you wholesale them...... You can buy 50 units for $750.00 US plus $100 shipping.......

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MannyScoot

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Think I paid $34 from VapeNW when they first came to fruition.
Mine were $36.00 free shipping on eBay..... Black and a Black/Red..... We are looking at April 2015 they were just out and people were like (3) batteries aaah ... too big aaah I don't know....., they suck.... Not good......... So I snatched a couple......

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VapeVillian

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Hi vapevillian, where are 200s available for $29 ? I can only see them for $65-75

Thanks
It was for Labor Day sales at element vape. Best thing to do, is check the deals and steals section for both coupon codes and sales. When they overlap, you're golden!

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