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calvincal

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Should I use an e-cigarette to stop smoking? I am little bit confused, please help me by sharing your opinion.
 

MyMagicMist

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Should I use an e-cigarette to stop smoking?
please help me by sharing your opinion.
Let me be direct and blunt.

First, my opinion holds no value. It is simply what I think, feel, experience.

Second, what you need to do for yourself is probably better not based on the opinion of others.

Third, listen to your own body and let it guide you if you decide to try vaping as means to quit cigarettes.

Fourth, the only right thing for you will be what you know as being right for you.

Fifth, anyone telling you otherwise needs avoided.

Sixth, don't you think it at least a bit ironic and silly to sell wares you don't use yourself, then ask publicly about those wares?

Seventh, if you don't you're a working for a vendor I need to avoid.

I worked in a lot of food industries at various times. One of our key value statements in doing food service business, "I'll not serve to a customer what I won't serve to my family". Another equally important value statement, "I'm going out and order off our menu. Set in the dinning area with customers and eat food we prepared."

In short be proud of what you do and product you sell. If you don't have that in my opinion as valueless as it may be, your business is not worth my customs. You need to dare me instead to give my money to your company, dare me to walk away without buying from you.

Eighth, I apologize if this reads as intent on degrading anyone. My intention was to express practical advice, not degrade or harangue any. At times the context and meaning may settle and seem to read otherwise. This is one disadvantage of text based communications, no infliction exists. So again, my apologies.
 
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Rhianne

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This seems like we were supposed to be mined for info. But there’s general vaping info all over this forum and the Net, in general.

What’s to be confused about? The fact that certain places are blaming vaping for lung illnesses that it doesn’t cause? That is pretty confusing!
 

MyMagicMist

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This seems like we were supposed to be mined for info.
Careful! If you would have taken another step, we might have been scraping you up with a spatula.

In seriousness, this forum makes use of some Google api, That means the N.S.A has access to information here. If they do then so does L.E.Os (Local Enforcement Officers), F.B.I, C.I.A and likely all 14 different sets of Eyes in the world. Smile and wave, you're still free in your mind and smiling confuses everyone, even yourself. :):wave:

But there’s general vaping info all over this forum and the Net, in general.
That's not the point though. Intimidation is the point. Think about it, even here on a forum classed and pawned off as "underground" we still are scraped by surveillance. This leads to a great deal of self censorship, possibly paranoia. All the better, because if we self censor it means we're controlled by psychological conditioning. And if in need of it they can easily get a court order sending you to the mental health asylum/s locked away from everything.

"Gee your honor, they were spouting paranoid conspiracy theories online". Which of course it won't be a proper judge by Black's Law dictionary but rather a judicial administrator and yes there is a vast difference in the two.

What is a conspiracy theory? It is any theory that two, or more people make plans. That is all it is in plain English. Everyone knows two, or more people who make plans. All you need to do is look at your local grocery store, the local McDonald's, local Wal-Mart. These are all examples of two, or more people making and enacting plans. Now, everyone is a conspiracy theorist. You're welcome. :) And in these cases the theories are proven factual, they do occur.

What do "THEY" (The Hierarchy Enslaving You) spend for that profound level of control? Next to nothing or nothing at all.

A judge is for court de jure as in Common Law, Law of Land (These are the same, just called differently by different people) Common Law goes back into England and came to exist in the 12th century, it was the basis of the Magna Carta, which later was adapted to our Bill of Rights. Contrary to common belief, judges do not instruct juries on matters of Law. In fact judges take instruction from juries. Judges though do help juries understand the rules of procedure for courts.

We don't use the law of the Land anymore but Law of the Sea, Law of Admiralty, Law of Commerce, Holy Roman Law, Cannon Law, Maritime law (All the same the kind of law, merely just different names). Judicial administrators only care about letting Capital keep making profit, it's about commerce being undisturbed for them, they got greasy palms.

There is a third version of law called Law of the Air. It has three precepts and supersedes the other two forms of law.

1. Do not harm any living being.
2. Harm nor steal any property of any living being.
3. Keep the peace.

That's the Law of Air. You might notice similarity to the Wiccan 'Rede. All law except Natural Law/s (Law of Gravity, Law of Heredity and so on) come from religions. Common Law comes from Mosaic Law which is common to Judaism, Christianity, Islam. All three of these religions are entwined in some fashion to Abrahamic religion, religion/s of Abraham. Apologies if the truth offends Muslims but it is the truth according to history, it is what happened. Abraham lived before Mohamed and in fact Mohamed is likely descended from Abraham, ergo Mosaic Law applied to all three religions by means of fatherly traditionalism.

I know this from actually researching it due to something of its nature having direct effect on my life. You kind of wake up after you're denied help that should exist but in reality doesn't because the system is corrupted from its core outward.
 
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Rhianne

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Careful! If you would have taken another step, we might have been scraping you up with a spatula.

In seriousness, this forum makes use of some Google api, That means the N.S.A has access to information here. If they do then so does L.E.Os (Local Enforcement Officers), F.B.I, C.I.A and likely all 14 different sets of Eyes in the world. Smile and wave, you're still free in your mind and smiling confuses everyone, even yourself. :):wave:



That's not the point though. Intimidation is the point. Think about it, even here on a forum classed and pawned off as "underground" we still are scraped by surveillance. This leads to a great deal of self censorship, possibly paranoia. All the better, because if we self censor it means we're controlled by psychological conditioning. And if in need of it they can easily get a court order sending you to the mental health asylum/s locked away from everything.

"Gee your honor, they were spouting paranoid conspiracy theories online". Which of course it won't be a proper judge by Black's Law dictionary but rather a judicial administrator and yes there is a vast difference in the two.

What is a conspiracy theory? It is any theory that two, or more people make plans. That is all it is in plain English. Everyone knows two, or more people who make plans. All you need to do is look at your local grocery store, the local McDonald's, local Wal-Mart. These are all examples of two, or more people making and enacting plans. Now, everyone is a conspiracy theorist. You're welcome. :) And in these cases the theories are proven factual, they do occur.

What do "THEY" (The Hierarchy Enslaving You) spend for that profound level of control? Next to nothing or nothing at all.

A judge is for court de jure as in Common Law, Law of Land (These are the same, just called differently by different people) Common Law goes back into England and came to exist in the 12th century, it was the basis of the Magna Carta, which later was adapted to our Bill of Rights. Contrary to common belief, judges do not instruct juries on matters of Law. In fact judges take instruction from juries. Judges though do help juries understand the rules of procedure for courts.

We don't use the law of the Land anymore but Law of the Sea, Law of Admiralty, Law of Commerce, Holy Roman Law, Cannon Law, Maritime law (All the same the kind of law, merely just different names). Judicial administrators only care about letting Capital keep making profit, it's about commerce being undisturbed for them, they got greasy palms.

There is a third version of law called Law of the Air. It has three precepts and supersedes the other two forms of law.

1. Do not harm any living being.
2. Harm nor steal any property of any living being.
3. Keep the peace.

That's the Law of Air. You might notice similarity to the Wiccan 'Rede. All law except Natural Law/s (Law of Gravity, Law of Heredity and so on) come from religions. Common Law comes from Mosaic Law which is common to Judaism, Christianity, Islam. All three of these religions are entwined in some fashion to Abrahamic religion, religion/s of Abraham. Apologies if the truth offends Muslims but it is the truth according to history, it is what happened. Abraham lived before Mohamed and in fact Mohamed is likely descended from Abraham, ergo Mosaic Law applied to all three religions by means of fatherly traditionalism.

I know this from actually researching it due to something of its nature having direct effect on my life. You kind of wake up after you're denied help that should exist but in reality doesn't because the system is corrupted from its core outward.
Thanks, I’ll be more careful. I’m glad you’re my bro. :hug:
 

MyMagicMist

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Muhahaha! My new desktop background. it'll drive my wife sane! Yes!!!!

Drat! The animation don't work and I don't feel like coding up an xml or html file with css to create a desktop with animated images. Oh well.
 
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Rhianne

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Muhahaha! My new desktop background. it'll drive my wife sane! Yes!!!!

Drat! The animation don't work and I don't feel like coding up an xml or html file with css to create a desktop with animated images. Oh well.
It’s on Tappy on their gif search button. Just look for trolls.
 

MyMagicMist

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It’s on Tappy on their gif search button. Just look for trolls.
That's fine and well but when I save the gif image itself the animation does not work on my copy. That means I would need to embed it into an xml, html file and set up my desktop to use such a file as a desktop "image". Using LXDE as a desktop environment isn't conducive of doing that. I could possibly script, or code some hack to do it but it's not worth the hassle for me. I'm sure it is likely someone has but even then using someone else's hack dulls the idea. And yes, I admit that's a bit of hacking pride.

Got to replaying this post. No sis, I'm not angry. I was merely 'splainin'. :hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug: Sometimes I might talk/write with a tone which seems I'm angry. For whatever reason me 'splaining' seems to read/sound like that. It's part of why I "hang back" a lot, I don't like upsetting folks by just explaining how things go, or do. Then, i get accused of "sneaking up" on folks when I don't try, too so, ... .
 
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Rhianne

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That's fine and well but when I save the gif image itself the animation does not work on my copy. That means I would need to embed it into an xml, html file and set up my desktop to use such a file as a desktop "image". Using LXDE as a desktop environment isn't conducive of doing that. I could possibly script, or code some hack to do it but it's not worth the hassle for me. I'm sure it is likely someone has but even then using someone else's hack dulls the idea. And yes, I admit that's a bit of hacking pride.

Got to replaying this post. No sis, I'm not angry. I was merely 'splainin'. :hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug: Sometimes I might talk/write with a tone which seems I'm angry. For whatever reason me 'splaining' seems to read/sound like that. It's part of why I "hang back" a lot, I don't like upsetting folks by just explaining how things go, or do. Then, i get accused of "sneaking up" on folks when I don't try, too so, ... .
Just keep ‘splaining, Ricky...I mean Bro. I wish I knew the code to fix it for you. But even when I save it, the trolls don’t flash by. :cry:
 
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MikeSolver

Member For 1 Year

Same here. After smoking several decades, I approached vaping with the intention to quit (due to the health issues I was having). It worked extremely well (I had dual used in the past, without quitting) but be prepared to suffer a bit in the process (though some people do switch quite easily, I'm just saying that for some it's easier than others). There are things that can make the switch easier, but most folks who truly desire to do so and find some stable vape setups that work for them can do it.

By the way, you can try to start from NZO vape pods, if you are new to this.



Dual use a bit at first is not uncommon. I dual used this time around for a week or two, but I just Kept Vaping as much as I could no matter what-- I'd vape right before and right after each cigarette , to reinforce being a vaper. This allowed me to gradually drop the cigarettes and transition, and get to no vaping for quite a long period of time (to me anyway, I wasn't convinced I could go a DAY even, and my first smoke free day I almost died of shock....).
 
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