Smoky's Chocolate Cake

[Smoky Blue]

Smoky's Chocolate Cake

Cream Charlotte vz
Vienna Cream fa
Chocolate Truffle vz
ap
Caramel fa

simple but too good not to share..

 

[AmandaD]

Ah ha - I happen to have those very two VZ flavors in the mail for delivery Friday! Looking forward to trying this

 

[Thunderball]

Ah ha - I happen to have those very two VZ flavors in the mail for delivery Friday! Looking forward to trying this

Where did you order from Amanda ?

 

[AmandaD]

From VZ!

 

[Smoky Blue]

i made this after playing with tfa's red velvet.. yuck!

i need to get back to my vz flavors..
actually miss playing with them..
poor bottles!!

 

[Thunderball]

8.00 for 10 ml. Ouch

Been on the fence about ordering


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[Smoky Blue]

8.00 for 10 ml. Ouch


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eh.. totally worth it, Tball.. I promise you will fall in love

 

[AmandaD]

8.00 for 10 ml. Ouch

Been on the fence about ordering


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There was a quick 15% off sale last week - so I popped in an order. I had to order 3 flavors to get the discount.

 

[Thunderball]

ordered the two flavors..... 20.00

 

[Smoky Blue]

working on getting us a coupon right now, for ecigxpress

 

[Heabob]

i made this after playing with tfa's red velvet.. yuck!

i need to get back to my vz flavors..
actually miss playing with them..
poor bottles!!

I'm not to impressed with the Red Velvet Cake either...

 

[AmandaD]

Just got my flavors in - the cream charlotte is really nasty - bitter tasting....is this normal?

 

[Smoky Blue]

I screwed up on that..

its 1 drop Cream Charlotte.. I am very very sorry, Amanda.

 

[Smoky Blue]

Smoky's Chocolate Cake

1 dropper drop Cream Charlotte vz << I screwed up, it is not 2%!!!
1% Vienna Cream fa
1 dropper drop 2 drops at the most! Chocolate Truffle vz
.25% ap
.25% Caramel fa

simple but too good not to share..

fixed it.. is what i get for typing tired..

 

[Thunderball]

One dropper drop per how many ml. Or what is a dropper drop converted to ml's ?


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[Smoky Blue]

per 10ml..

 

[Smoky Blue]

I is very sorry.. i hope everyone can correct the percentages now..

 

[AmandaD]

LOL Smoky! I'm still convinced my bottle is bad. Even at 1% (and their bottle lists it as 1-2%) it has a foul bitter taste - no sweetness at all. I tried the two other flavors I ordered at 1 or 2%, and they were fine.

 

[cbabbman]

VZ - SC is the Baker Flavor line of products out of Russia as far as I can tell. I got almost the entire Baker Flavors line direct from them for $106, including the $40 shipping charge and that included 2 100ml bottles of Chocolate Truffle and 2 Cocoa Beans.... Unfortunately, it took almost 2 months to ship it to me... something they told me right off the bat... but wow, this stuff is extremely potent and it was very worth the wait

I'm glad I can get it from VZ in a pinch but holy crap..... a 10 ml bottle is only 94 cents direct from BF. 100ml is about $6 and a 500ml bottle about $16..

Thanks for the recipe Smoky... always happy to find out what others are doing with these flavors

 

[Smoky Blue]

VZ - SC is the Baker Flavor line of products out of Russia as far as I can tell. I got almost the entire Baker Flavors line direct from them for $106, including the $40 shipping charge and that included 2 100ml bottles of Chocolate Truffle and 2 Cocoa Beans.... Unfortunately, it took almost 2 months to ship it to me... something they told me right off the bat... but wow, this stuff is extremely potent and it was very worth the wait

I'm glad I can get it from VZ in a pinch but holy crap..... a 10 ml bottle is only 94 cents direct from BF. 100ml is about $6 and a 500ml bottle about $16..

Thanks for the recipe Smoky... always happy to find out what others are doing with these flavors

yes, cbabbman.. you are right.. is how i do it too, unless i need 1-2 flavors..
you have to use the supers one drop at a time, straight from the bottle..
never mind that 1-2%! these are not fa and can be much stronger..
the caramel puff, the cappuccino, cream charlotte, truffle only need a drop or 2 to 10ml, sometimes even 30ml..
you will have to play with it..

Amanda, your bottle is not bad.. think of it this way, would a lemon taste like lemon, magnified by 50 times? no..

sorry my recipe was screwed up in the beginning..
i had a lot going on today, and all i wanted to do was share some good stuff..
i did correct it..

 

[cbabbman]

Smokey... I hadn't used the Cream Charlotte until I saw this recipe and I have to say I was shocked at how potent it is... I've used Chocolate Truffle as high as 5%.. but then again, I like in my face kind of stuff.. lol

I love coming to this forum more than any others... a couple of you guys absolutely rock this stuff... it's also a great lesson that less is way more for all this stuff..

Thanks for your efforts and generosity in sharing

 

[Smoky Blue]

aww.. happy to see you posting, too cbabbman!
you will have to post more often now that you have popped up *laughs..

thank you..

and yes, it can be strong and yes i love strong flavors too.. to a point..
was just tired this morning and then all hell broke loose from lunch till a bit ago..
tomorrow will be a better day..

 

[AmandaD]

Ok, then tomorrow I'll try one drop from the bottle in 10mls. I still think it's bad though

I tried the chocolate truffle at 2% and I could see how people could vape it even higher. And the vanilla sponge cake at the same percentage!

 

[RocketPuppy]

What's a dropper drop?

 

[Smoky Blue]

bottle drops.. was experimenting with drops at that time and using all sorts of dropper types..
old recipe i found for vz.. i still havent had the time to hunt thru and post more vz recipes..
but it's on my list..

 

[RocketPuppy]

I thought you were against measuring with drops.

 

[HeadInClouds]

What's a dropper drop?

I'm sure that's a simple typo, @RocketPuppy. Smoky doesn't use drops:
http://vapingunderground.com/threads/my-first-try-oh-boy.33190/#post-185342
http://vapingunderground.com/thread...he-purevapes-thread.2501/page-113#post-168001

She even warns people not to use drops in MY recipes, even when I provide percentages with them:
http://vapingunderground.com/threads/hics-double-rainbow.34059/#post-201301
http://vapingunderground.com/thread...ple-tart-simple-variations.13178/#post-143774

 

[Smoky Blue]

no i dont.. not anymore..
when i found out looking and reading foreign websites and they use small droppers and large droppers
and well drops just are not accurate for me to work with easy.. and that is why i post what I do..

like i said, this is an old recipe, and i shared it..

i think this was made back in august of last year.. because i pored over this one german site..
had a bunch of inewera stuff on it..
was a pain to ask on the drops even there.. wish i remembered the name of the site..

 

[Smoky Blue]

on the other side of this.. I am glad someone is keeping up with what i post

and well for a percentage on this.. measure straight from the bottle..
but if they changed bottles.. then i guess we are all screwed and back to the drawing board

 

[RocketPuppy]

I was just trying to clean up the recipe area. I noticed a few things that needed to be moved, and when I scrolled over this one, the measurements seemed odd.

I didn't mean to cause an argument, but this is a bit disconcerting. Whether I'm making 30 ml or 5 ml, if a recipe calls for one or two drops, there really isn't a way to measure that other than saying drop. I use a scale for measuring, but even at 0.01, it won't pick up a drop. What would that look like on a recipe? 0.007? A syringe nor cylinder can pick that up, so how else would that be measured?

 

[AmandaD]

1 drop per - what? 30mls, 10mls, 100mls? LOL

I gave up on this recipe!

 

[Smoky Blue]

lmao.. nods i know.. no worries RP..
heck I dont even see my percentages.. thought i had them posted too.. grrr..
searching my pc now and cant find it.. will add this to my list to fix..

but it is a good reason on why i dont do drops anymore..
not that I pick on HIC.. just for me, it doesn't work.. *shakes head..
good catch.. smoky shouldn't post when tired..

 

[RocketPuppy]

lmao.. nods i know.. no worries RP..
heck I dont even see my percentages.. thought i had them posted too.. grrr..
searching my pc now and cant find it.. will add this to my list to fix..

but it is a good reason on why i dont do drops anymore..
not that I pick on HIC.. just for me, it doesn't work.. *shakes head..
good catch.. smoky shouldn't post when tired..

If you only use percentages, then how would you describe how much of say Chocolate Truffle to this?
Yo people, this isn't an argument. I'm trying to decipher how Smoky figures her recipes out.

 

[Smoky Blue]

If you only use percentages, then how would you describe how much of say Chocolate Truffle to this?
Yo people, this isn't an argument. I'm trying to decipher how Smoky figures her recipes out.

about .15% for chocolate truffle.. i dont take that one beyond 2%

 

[RocketPuppy]

about .15% for chocolate truffle.. i dont take that one beyond 2%

.15% is definitely more than one or two drops. You might want to adjust this recipe. And .15% is much, much different than 2%. Did you mean .2%?

 

[Smoky Blue]

umm the bottle i have, yes, it has a needle type dropper tip..
it makes the tinest drops i have ever seen..
but in general, i use .15%-2% in "common use" of this one flavor..

if i can find the recipe, can remeasure it, in the meantime..
do not let me play with drops again

 

[RocketPuppy]

I guess my question is this: How do you measure flavors if a recipe says 0.15%, especially if you're making a small quantity? That would be 0.015 ml. Do you have teeny tiny syringes?

 

[Smoky Blue]

no.. i dont do too many under 20ml.. most of mine are 4ounces and larger..

vg is cheap so why mess with tiny bits? i go thru a lot of vg just vaping thru the day, around 20ml
however, me messing with the nv stuff.. i went thru 5ml in i'd say 30 minuets on certain flavors..

 

[RocketPuppy]

Even when you're creating recipes, you make 20ml or larger?

 

[RocketPuppy]

Oh. Someone named @Ginger was looking for you.

 

[Smoky Blue]

yeps and yes I got her RP, she wanted one of my tobacco recipes..

i drip.. sub ohm.. i go thru a lot of juice.. 20ml is nothing.. my fav juices go into 4 oz bottles..
i mix when i am half way down, about every week and a half for my favs..
i also toss juice to friends and sell a bit on the side if they like them..
supports my flavor habbit gesh that sounds bad.. feel like i am a pusher of some sort..

 

[RocketPuppy]

Um... Whether you go through a lot of juice isn't the question. When you are just starting out with a recipe or an individual flavor, you make 20mls? That seems like a lot of wasted flavorings if the recipe doesn't work out.

 

[Smoky Blue]

but that is the way i do it.. 20ml bottles.. glass..
it's not that big of a waste to me.. if i like what i make, i turn it larger..

think is, if i play with a flavor, RP.. i want that bottle to last me a bit..
i want to see it steeped out too.. so really, its not a waste..
at worse, toss it into my foot tub.. or oil burner.. no biggie..

heck i am even thinking on making soap with this stuff too..
all sorts of purposes, so nothing will go to waste..

 

[Smoky Blue]

i had a request from some one here, wanting a tobacco recipe..
even tho i sent a 20ml bottle to them, i mixed up 260ml of that recipe..
turned out, she didnt like it.. but.. i had 3 people like it here, so all that juice.. gone..

i buy in large amounts, so it is a bit cheaper for me..

 

[AmandaD]

I'm sorry, but what on earth is the point in posting a recipe with the wrong numbers - and not just wrong, but with flavors that if used in too high a percentage are unvapeable (notably the cream charlotte). I went out and specifically purchased flavors for this, and when the result was beyond bad (as in throw down the sink bad), you changed it, and said 'oops sorry, I meant drops' - that made no sense, because you didn't post amounts. What is the use of 'use 1 dropper drop' - you don't say in how much? What, 1 drop per 100ml? Per 20ml?

Really, either post a recipe you know works or don't post at all. But don't post recipes that are useless because the measurements are way off, particularly when you know (as I posted) that people are specifically purchasing flavors to make that recipe.

It's things like this that put people off DIY permanently.

 

[Smoky Blue]

amanda, i don't know you from any other site, but i know you have been hanging out here since this place started..
if you have no experience with a recipe, never tried the flavor company out, nor the flavors..
common sense says at least to me..
try those solo before putting it all together.. especially if you have never tasted any of those.
what i like and at what percentage, might not be what you would..

we all diy for a common reason, to find out if we may or may not like it.

hate to hear it was off for you.. but.. if you had seen that i then put drops..
you could have retried it.. you could have played with it.. and for sure..
i do not see you telling anyone else on this forum this.

but thanks for the input, hate you had a bad experience and I hope if you didn't know..
you now know to test things out. play with your juice, do it your way and learn to have fun.

i know i am not the sole person on the net that has screwed up a recipe.. but hey we all need that one person to say so..
so may sites, and so many people..

what would have been even better, is to drop me a note, or post up you had problems..
i think you know by now, i would have helped then.

id help now, but i am not mixing at this time of night.

 

[Smoky Blue]

Ah ha - I happen to have those very two VZ flavors in the mail for delivery Friday! Looking forward to trying this

and you already had those flavors coming.. hmm..

 

[AmandaD]

So - what is the actual recipe?

 

[RocketPuppy]

I don't know. A lot of the recipes are now missing flavor percentages.

 

[Cramptholomew]

if you have no experience with a recipe, never tried the flavor company out, nor the flavors..
common sense says at least to me..
try those solo before putting it all together.. especially if you have never tasted any of those.
what i like and at what percentage, might not be what you would..

Gee whiz, Smoky. For Pete's sake. A recipe is a FINAL AMALGUM OF INGREDIENTS. People MAKE THAT RECIPE and THEN ADJUST TO THEIR TASTES. WTF? It isn't helping anyone to throw out a recipe like: Ground Beef, Onion, Garlic, Pasta, Chicken Broth - with no freaking instruction on how to cook it, what method to use, or even how to start. Stating what percent to use as a starting point is the BEST way for people to get comfortable with flavors. If you think it's best for people to figure out their flavors FIRST, then SAY SO. TELL them that in order to make your recipe, they will need to do a whole bunch of leg work to make it happen. Some people NEED to know 1/2 cups, and TBSP, and TSP, and so on. They can't just build it in their head. I agree that people should know their flavors - I wholeheartedly agree with that. BUT, any NEW DIYer is looking for a complete recipe - one they can use to start immediately, and one that they can assume they'll enjoy because it's FINAL.