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Many times it is not what you say, but how you say it. Standing up for a friend is great, coming across like :if you buy a clone you're not worthy of the authentic. ....well, frankly, that is offensive.
If anyone’s interested I listed my P67/Nuppin V1 in the classies..... Ended up buying another mod and told the wife I’d try and “recoup” some of what I spent lol.
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3FVape just listed it also,and has it listed as the phenom.Fasttech does not say.I don't know anything about the real one to know the difference between them.Phenom or cruiser?
Thanks for the lookout! I really don't need another P67 and the Nuppin is part of the package.
Yeah I have a strict rule when it comes to attys...they can't cost more than my mods
Going to have to wait for the stainless version...didn't even have to google the 120€ conversion since that is the price of the Mölly
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Bet I could get a fantastic vape off this on something as cheap as the Frankenclone - but a real Frankie would not improve the performance of a shitty atomizer one iota
Thanks for the lookout! I really don't need another P67 and the Nuppin is part of the package.
So you had success last night then?The PayPal exchange rate at the time of purchase was $119 plus shipping
So you had success last night then?
Not the WankoChina will clone anything and everything. It was just a matter of time.
Not the original Chalice but a dead on 1:1 clone of the Chalice IV from every review I've read/seen.
https://www.fasttech.com/products/8286800
Yeah, I looked at that... but I dunno; the airflow looks pretty wide open to me... and TOP airflow? I just can't get excited about that; where the hell do you get the flavor from? There's just no way in hell that a top airflow passes air directly over the coil on the way to the mouth. Even side airflow makes the flavor much too diffuse, just too much air flying everywhere except where it really needs to go.
Not the Wanko
and perhaps not the Wasp since the authentic sells for clone prices.
Of course.But they will surly clone the high dollar stuff.
When it comes to Rda's, I will buy a clone from the start just because rda's are just so subjective as to whether or not I like them and If they will give me the vape I like. Mods a a whole different beast. I completely understand you supporting your friend. That's what true friends do. But to ask someone to leave the group is kinda elitest. Some can't afford the authentic. Anyway there's another 2¢ worth. One more penny and I'll have a nickle in this debate...
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They are kind of the same thing in a way.Which is worse, elitism or entitlement?
I do not believe Andria would like the Chalice IV - even with the airflow choked down it is not a super tight draw, just a very restricted one
Now the Chalice III is a real possibility, but hard to get a hold of and the "clones" looked like the OG, but did not perform like one
@minimalsaint I apologize if I offended you by posting about the clone.It was not my intention to offend anyone.The clone versus authentic debate is as old as vaping it's self,and will never end.No matter how anyone feels about it,China won't stop making clones.And they clone everything,not just vaping stuff.I'm not in the Haku group,since it is an atty that I can't really afford,or have any interest in.I have no problem with how modders sell there product,or what they charge,as I can choose whether I wish to buy there product or not.I consider you my friend,and hope our friendship is not affected,but understand if you feel otherwise.
They are kind of the same thing in a way.
Not real fond of either.
Just the way I roll, nothing personal.
Precisely.
I was wondering... didn't you used to have the "hovercat" as your avatar?
Andria
Yes, ma'am, on the other place.
This avatar seemed so much more fitting for VU
Heh, gotcha. I just always liked that hovercat, such a cool image. Though I pretty much like anything related to cats. Except hairballs.
Andria
I've never shunned anyone for buying a clone and I also never stated that people who buy a clone Haku are lesser, so the elitist label I've picked up over the past couple of pages seems to be a bit hasty, but so be it. I'll be an elitist if that's what the consensus is.
I simply asked those who would be buying the clone to exit the group (i even said please) simply for the fact that your spot could easily be occupied by someone who doesn't have any issue with waiting for the original if need be.
Now, a question:
Which is worse, elitism or entitlement?
One of the things I used to love about VU: no FB bickering
It ain't a Nuppin so it doesn't matter to me. Enough about this, y'all get what you want if it makes you happy.
Group hug, we can sing cumbaia and have a beer.
I'd just like to say to anyone who is currently a member of the Haku group and also considering buying the clone because you haven't made the list:
Please leave the group.
You are what's wrong with the vaping community.
Gosh, you're right.
Looks like it's time for me to go then.
Gosh, you're right.
Looks like it's time for me to go then.
That would suck for the forum and hope you stick around
I for one highly value your opinions and skills
@minimalsaint Please stay. I would miss your input and those wonderful little Orcas. This whole thing has been blown way out of proportion IMHO.Gosh, you're right.
Looks like it's time for me to go then.
I've lingered for a long time and I keep up with the members who definitely know more about vaping that I do. Always something new to learn. As Lucy said you're opinions are definitely valued.That would suck for the forum and hope you stick around
I for one highly value your opinions and skills
I like sonars mods and they are well worth the money... If I just had itNow who wants to post some detailed pics of a studiovap mod, I want to get them over to china asap because people need to have a cheaper option to try them first and don't want to wait.
Maybe they will clone Sonar's work too if anyone cares to post those pics. Lots of folks can't afford the $75 he charges for those beauties.
Gosh, you're right.
Looks like it's time for me to go then.
No one gets along all the time.Human beings are just GOING TO sometimes strike sparks off each other... no help for it. When someone bugs the HELL out of me, I /ignore them, and I hope they do the same to me, to avoid these little dramas. Just because someone says something irritating, doesn't make them right OR wrong, it makes them human. Best thing is to just go on past it... and if someone is constantly irritating... /ignore them!
Andria