The BOREAS RTA by Augvape and Roxy

[roxynoodle]

That would seriously drive up the cost of vaping. Feminine protection is costly.

Well, I've got a couple boxes I no longer have use for. I could send them to Hank.

 

[rolf 2]

Lol. Merlin lifts her feathers when something interests her. Or she's relaxed and happy. She says only dogs would drink from toilets. She is a superior feather person.

glad you cleared that up ....oh my virgin ears ha ha

 

[roxynoodle]

glad you cleared that up ....oh my virgin ears ha ha

If you have virgin ears, don't go to the Refugee thread, lol! I don't let the birds read that one.

 

[rolf 2]

If you have virgin ears, don't go to the Refugee thread, lol! I don't let the birds read that one.

ja once they let them out of the cage ...they go bananas and tell you to wick with you old cotton socks .

 

[inspects]

Lol. Merlin lifts her feathers when something interests her. Or she's relaxed and happy. She says only dogs would drink from toilets. She is a superior feather person.

My Cockatiel used to do that, everytime he walked up to the dogs bowl stealing a piece of food....was funny as hell.....

 

[roxynoodle]

My Cockatiel used to do that, everytime he walked up to the dogs bowl stealing a piece of food....was funny as hell.....

That may have been the "look how big and scary I am" feather poof.

There's "happy poof", often followed by the tail wag.

"Relaxed and content poof".

"That's interesting" poof.

"Ooo, I'm hot and bothered" hormonal poof.

 

[inspects]

That may have been the "look how big and scary I am" feather poof.

There's "happy poof", often followed by the tail wag.

"Relaxed and content poof".

"That's interesting" poof.

"Ooo, I'm hot and bothered" hormonal poof.

lol Roxy....it's amazing how smart birds are....I miss ol BadBoy.....

 

[JuicyLucy]

That may have been the "look how big and scary I am" feather poof.

There's "happy poof", often followed by the tail wag.

"Relaxed and content poof".

"That's interesting" poof.

"Ooo, I'm hot and bothered" hormonal poof.

So basically you are saying that Merlin is a poof

 

[roxynoodle]

So basically you are saying that Merlin is a poof

She's the poofiest of them all She's very much a physical communicator. She pets her throat and looks all pitiful when she wants me to pet her. She grabs her throat, sticks out her tongue and makes gagging sounds if something tastes bad. She turns her head and shrugs to tell me, "no".

 

[JuicyLucy]

She's the poofiest of them all She's very much a physical communicator. She pets her throat and looks all pitiful when she wants me to pet her. She grabs her throat, sticks out her tongue and makes gagging sounds if something tastes bad. She turns her head and shrugs to tell me, "no".

What does she make of the new Merlin atty?

 

[roxynoodle]

What does she make of the new Merlin atty?

She loves it!

 

[NatGasMan]

That may have been the "look how big and scary I am" feather poof.

There's "happy poof", often followed by the tail wag.

"Relaxed and content poof".

"That's interesting" poof.

"Ooo, I'm hot and bothered" hormonal poof.

Are you sure you are talking about birds?

 

[suprtrkr]

At first I was offended by this but once again, your level-headed assessment has been proven to be correct

Well, I certainly didn't intend to offend anybody...

 

[roxynoodle]

Are you sure you are talking about birds?

Of course.

 

[r055co]

I come from a long line of crazy people. I can't change heredity.

Sanity is highly over rated, not to mention extremely boring. Also consider geniuses are classified as insane

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[Mikhail Naumov]

Sanity is highly over rated, not to mention extremely boring. Also consider geniuses are classified as insane

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I get called insane far less than things like arrogant, asshole, smug, rude, callous, crude, insensitive and many others. I wouldn't say sanity, at least what is medically considered sanity, is overrated. Licking the sides of padded walls while you try to ignore the voices telling you to go back in time to assassinate Marilyn Monroe with a hockey stick before she ever becomes famous doesn't sound like much fun.

 

[JuicyLucy]

Hey Mikhail, I read your tutorial last night - very good work.

Well written and understandable. I didn't comment because you said in the post you weren't looking for any.

I get called insane far less than things like arrogant, asshole, smug, rude, callous, crude, insensitive and many others.

Hehehehe

 

[Mikhail Naumov]

I wrote that as a result of this, foolish, tool in this other thread but I decided that enough work went into that it may actually help beginners. A lot of tutorials cover a lot of things, but I've yet to see one tutorial as a whole that covered the three big things, wire, mods and batteries in extreme detail. I sent it to a mod to see if it warranted being stickied, also you can comment if you want. I just meant that I wasn't looking to open a safety discussion, because I know things could get out of hand REALLY fast if I did.

 

[raymo2u]

I wrote that as a result of this, foolish, tool in this other thread but I decided that enough work went into that it may actually help beginners. A lot of tutorials cover a lot of things, but I've yet to see one tutorial as a whole that covered the three big things, wire, mods and batteries in extreme detail. I sent it to a mod to see if it warranted being stickied, also you can comment if you want. I just meant that I wasn't looking to open a safety discussion, because I know things could get out of hand REALLY fast if I did.

Got a link to it?

 

[JuicyLucy]

I wrote that as a result of this, foolish, tool in this other thread but I decided that enough work went into that it may actually help beginners. A lot of tutorials cover a lot of things, but I've yet to see one tutorial as a whole that covered the three big things, wire, mods and batteries in extreme detail. I sent it to a mod to see if it warranted being stickied, also you can comment if you want. I just meant that I wasn't looking to open a safety discussion, because I know things could get out of hand REALLY fast if I did.

Good call.

Is it just me, or does there seem to be a lot more "arrogant, asshole, smug, rude, callous, crude, insensitive" blow holes on VU lately?

 

[Mikhail Naumov]

Got a link to it?

http://vapingunderground.com/threads/full-beginners-guide-to-rebuildable-vaping.234478/

Good call.

Is it just me, or does there seem to be a lot more "arrogant, asshole, smug, rude, callous, crude, insensitive" blow holes on VU lately?

I suppose, though I mainly stay anchored in the rebuildable section here on VU so I wouldn't notice if there were a flood of assholes coming into the forum.

 

[raymo2u]

FDA just passed their deeming regulations...perpare for Shit To Hit The Fan
http://sfata.org/sfata-issues-statement-fdas-final-deeming-rule/

 

[Mikhail Naumov]

To be honest, I'm happy. They're no where near as bad as people expected. They suck, but we will survive it.

 

[raymo2u]

To be honest, I'm happy. They're no where near as bad as people expected. They suck, but we will survive it.

Your kidding me right? How many manufacturers could afford over 330k to just a try at approval per product and if its not approved then its money lost...for every thing they make, including elquids? The only liquids and devices that will be around will be made by BT.

90% of vape related business will disappear and shops will close...forcing many to be unemployed

 

[Mikhail Naumov]

I can only think about the people like myself who prepared for this. I have DIY shit on hand, and it seems DIY shit like flavorings and nicotine will survive. There's also no way for them to regulate rebuildable products and some mods. It sucks ass for business, it really does, but it's not going to kill us.

 

[raymo2u]

I can only think about the people like myself who prepared for this. I have DIY shit on hand, and it seems DIY shit like flavorings and nicotine will survive. There's also no way for them to regulate rebuildable products and some mods. It sucks ass for business, it really does, but it's not going to kill us.

Its not going to kill veteran vapers but what about people who havent switched yet or dont have the capabilities to, or the resources yet...I find this completely retarded that the FDA would actually approve this regulations and I can only hope congress has more sense but I understand its all about the money and its doubtful that anything will be done against it...This country is slowly getting shittier every year...
We do not need people telling us what we can or can not do...I fucking hate politicians and our government bodies that only take from us and not contribute or help the people that keep them afloat.

 

[JuicyLucy]

Its not going to kill veteran vapers but what about people who havent switched yet or dont have the capabilities to, or the resources yet...I find this completely retarded that the FDA would actually approve this regulations and I can only hope congress has more sense but I understand its all about the money and its doubtful that anything will be done against it...This country is slowly getting shittier every year...
We do not need people telling us what we can or can not do...I fucking hate politicians and our government bodies that only take from us and not contribute or help the people that keep them afloat.

I've been preparing for a long time but still feel weak in the atty area, as my budget hasn't been able to keep up with the giant steps forward lately.

For instance, the Boreas has become my go-to atty. However, the materials used in the manufacturing of the Boreas doesn't seem like they will hold up for years on end.

I know we can look for a lot of "hand held vapor makers" and what have you in place of items marketed as atomizers for vaping, but still...

 

[Mikhail Naumov]

Its not going to kill veteran vapers but what about people who havent switched yet or dont have the capabilities to, or the resources yet...I find this completely retarded that the FDA would actually approve this regulations and I can only hope congress has more sense but I understand its all about the money and its doubtful that anything will be done against it...This country is slowly getting shittier every year...
We do not need people telling us what we can or can not do...I fucking hate politicians and our government bodies that only take from us and not contribute or help the people that keep them afloat.

Yeah I know. I called, I wrote letters, I listened to calls to action, I fought. I've been a good soldier, but I knew this was coming. As wrong as it is, I can take solace in one thing. I will survive, and that's the only victory I can have so you're damned right I'm going to cling to it.

Also this probably looks scarier on paper than it will be in reality. How can you regulate machined pieces of metal like RDA's? You can't, maybe B&M's will die but the products won't. China, as sad as it is, will keep us alive.

 

[raymo2u]

Yeah I know. I called, I wrote letters, I listened to calls to action, I fought. I've been a good soldier, but I knew this was coming. As wrong as it is, I can take solace in one thing. I will survive, and that's the only victory I can have so you're damned right I'm going to cling to it.

Also this probably looks scarier on paper than it will be in reality. How can you regulate machined pieces of metal like RDA's? You can't, maybe B&M's will die but the products won't. China, as sad as it is, will keep us alive.

The only problem I see is the Nic, everything else can be shipped and labeled for a different use like Flashlights or "gaming boards/devices" but Nic will soon be regulated and have watchful eyes on it...

 

[JuicyLucy]

The only problem I see is the Nic, everything else can be shipped and labeled for a different use like Flashlights or "gaming boards/devices" but Nic will soon be regulated and have watchful eyes on it...

I know, but it puts us in the same category as headgear, which has such a quasi-legal/illegal aroma despite the view of some states.

I hate the idea of vaping on something sold "as a novelty only" or "not for vaping" on principle.

 

[raymo2u]

I know, but it puts us in the same category as headgear, which has such a quasi-legal/illegal aroma despite the view of some states.

I hate the idea of vaping on something sold "as a novelty only" or "not for vaping" on principal.

As long as its the same thing I dont mind....I used to do alot of drugs and ordered alot from online so maybe its because Im conditioned to doing it that it doesnt bother me.

 

[JuicyLucy]

As long as its the same thing I dont mind....I used to do alot of drugs and ordered alot from online so maybe its because Im conditioned to doing it that it doesnt bother me.

Ehh, I cleaned up my act before the internet era (showing my age). Oh, I'll do it. Just irks me is all.

 

[roxynoodle]

To say I'm angry, disheartened, disgusted and disillusioned are understatements.

 

[JuicyLucy]

I need to sell some non-vape shit quick and go on a serious buy spree.

 

[Mikhail Naumov]

There's a juice company here, Mountain Oak Vapors, that's a multi-million making brand. They'll probably survive this, and it's local. Otherwise I got a shit ton of DIY juice supplies. I have mod supplies and most mod supplies will go no where.

Can they even regulate RDA's and RTA's? I feel like they say they can but actually doing it will be impossible.

 

[raymo2u]

There's a juice company here, Mountain Oak Vapors, that's a multi-million making brand. They'll probably survive this, and it's local. Otherwise I got a shit ton of DIY juice supplies. I have mod supplies and most mod supplies will go no where.

Can they even regulate RDA's and RTA's? I feel like they say they can but actually doing it will be impossible.

Im 100% sure china will still be operating and exporting...customs may seize your shit though

 

[Mikhail Naumov]

The thing is, it's machined pieces of metal, and boards are electronics. Regardless of their intended use, those products alone have nothing to do with vaping. So I find it hard for the FDA to do shit to them, as the FDA has no hold over that kind of stuff. That's an entirely different industry, it's not food or drug related on its own.

 

[Mikhail Naumov]

I just posted this on a local Facebook vape trade page. Everyone is laughing it off like the shit is just gonna be okay for everyone. Jesus.

 

[NatGasMan]

The only problem I see is the Nic, everything else can be shipped and labeled for a different use like Flashlights or "gaming boards/devices" but Nic will soon be regulated and have watchful eyes on it...

I have a liter of Nic base in my freezer, 100 mg and I only vape 3 mg. After seeing the release of the regulations, I ordered another liter.

 

[JuicyLucy]

I just posted this on a local Facebook vape trade page. Everyone is laughing it off like the shit is just gonna be okay for everyone. Jesus.

While I agree with your assessment that the stuff will probably still be sold under the guise of a different use, I worry about price gouging.

What would be a $20-$50 item could easily double. I've seen this in other quasi-legal industries.

Another reason to shun FB. I hate that sight.

 

[Mikhail Naumov]

The popular response is:

"Lolzers! I has t00b m0dz br0, me and my s1ck cl0udz will st1ll be f0gging it! Fook the FD@ bruh, we all g00d in here."

Seriously.

 

[JuicyLucy]

The popular response is:

"Lolzers! I has t00b m0dz br0, me and my s1ck cl0udz will st1ll be f0gging it! Fook the FD@ bruh, we all g00d in here."

Seriously.

Fucktard shit

 

[Mikhail Naumov]

What do you do when your sick little tube mods die on you? You strip the threads or dent the base? You're fucked, you end up paying $300 for what will be surely called a "Novelty 510 threaded copper 18650 battery tube" and $200 for a "air intake 510 threaded electronic circuit chamber" to screw onto it.

 

[shawn.hoefer]

What do you do when your sick little tube mods die on you? You strip the threads or dent the base? You're fucked, you end up paying $300 for what will be surely called a "Novelty 510 threaded copper 18650 battery tube" and $200 for a "air intake 510 threaded electronic circuit chamber" to screw onto it.

Lol... they were already paying that much.

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[Mikhail Naumov]

I expect mods to be called "Electronic battery voltage checkers" in the future. Doesn't all this take three years to go into effect?

 

[shawn.hoefer]

I expect mods to be called "Electronic battery voltage checkers" in the future. Doesn't all this take three years to go into effect?

2 years for manufacturers. 90 days for vendors...

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[Mikhail Naumov]

That doesn't even make sense.

 

[raymo2u]

I have a liter of Nic base in my freezer, 100 mg and I only vape 3 mg. After seeing the release of the regulations, I ordered another liter.

I'd order 3 or 4 more...Im sure Nic will be regulated soon afterwards and its better to get it now then when they are watching...I guess flavorings wont be regulated....but I wouldnt put to much hope into the either..

 

[raymo2u]

That doesn't even make sense.

It doesnt need to, its the government...I dont think they ever have made sense.

 

[Mikhail Naumov]

To be honest, I may just quit nicotine. 99% of this is the hand to mouth habit for me.