Its a good idea to start tapering I guess...then just buy juice flavorings and vg..
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That's going to be a problem, at least at first. Not to worry, the market will leap to fill the gap. It will be the black market, of course, but "black market" is just another word for "regular old market, doing what the market does, for products idiotioc politicians were stupid and futile enough to try to outlaw."
Yea but it always comes with a hefty price tag because of it...its just the way it always happens...
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Stock up on RDA's and RTA's. I feel like this should be your first move. Assume everything has a life of six months, and buy accordingly depending on how long you want to keep vaping.
If you want high end boards, buy DNA200's and SX's, assume they'll last six months each as well, buy accordingly.
Mosfets, basic DC-DC converters, PWM 555 setups, switches, enclosures, wire, resistors, diodes, all that is going no-where.
But buy 510's, those might.
Then stock nicotine.
Flavorings, VG/PG, basic mod parts, wire, all that will go nowhere.
If you want high end boards, buy DNA200's and SX's, assume they'll last six months each as well, buy accordingly.
Mosfets, basic DC-DC converters, PWM 555 setups, switches, enclosures, wire, resistors, diodes, all that is going no-where.
But buy 510's, those might.
Then stock nicotine.
Flavorings, VG/PG, basic mod parts, wire, all that will go nowhere.
Also true. But, you know, it doesn't take much. A one gallon bleach bottle of glacial nic will make a railroad car load of juice. It's going to be nasty. Prices will go up (and the number of vapers, just because it's going to be hard to do), and quality will go down (along with employment and tax receipts). But it isn't going to stop. And it's likely to be a boon for garage mechanics who can make mods.
I have a M7 x .5 tap. I can make 510s.
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Time for "Mikhail's Prohibition Mods" to launch. I'll be taking orders from vaping's tombstone in the cemetery.
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We need to unite, now more than ever. I got the electronic's side covered. We need a machinist who can make RDA's/RTA's and such, we need a programming expert so I can team up with them to make high end regulated boards, we need a DIY juice legend and then we need someone like Raymo to make the wire.
Like fucking vaping MENSA.
Like fucking vaping MENSA.
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That is what it will take. Especially for attys
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pe...ing-ecigarette-classification-tobacco-product
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I'd invest in this kind of startup. In another thread I wondered about buy Boreas blueprints and then finding a machinist to duplicate it with super high-grade materials for longevity.
@Haleysdada is a machinist -
I'm not a bad machinist, but I don't have tools. I am an excellent wood worker, and I have most of what I need (time to finally get around to building that CNC router...)
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I'm picturing a wood atty - possibly fashioned after one of those old fashioned wooden spools for thread, lol.
The 510 connector is a convenience, not a requirement. Yes, some ability to work metal is required. But they don't have to be removable from the mod, that's merely convenient.
Oh, yes. Not my first rodeo...
It could be done. Pipes are made out of wood. But a metal lining-- just a small cup like a pipe cap-- in brass or copper would be inserted into a wood body...
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A locked in a workshop with nothing to vape type project, lol.
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A wooden RDA would be difficult. As the negative circuit would likely be VERY tiny on a wooden RDA, making it a poor ground for the electron return path. The positive post, given all three posts were made out of metal, could easily be ran to a metal/conductive 510 pin. The floor of the RDA would have to be metal and all the posts would have to be metal. The only thing you could have that was wooden would be the top cap..
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I'd like to point one thing out. Back in 2010, we beat the FDA once. We can do it again.
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Change.org is also running a petition against the deeming regs: https://www.change.org/p/u-s-senate...products-3810d737-ccd4-4595-a600-50f3f0c55934
I need to go post both those links over in general vaping discussion. If I can find it.
EDIT: I take it back, somebody beat me to it. And both are posted in that thread.
I need to go post both those links over in general vaping discussion. If I can find it.
EDIT: I take it back, somebody beat me to it. And both are posted in that thread.
You keep flaunting that piglet Im apt to come take itDamn fine combination, 30x2/36 fused Clapton's @0.8 ohms on my Piglet!
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So to the juice maker's, remove the nicotine then re-label it for what it actually is, food flavoring. All we need to do then is add the nicotine
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If you can pry it from my cold dead hands, I really love this beast. Between my Boreas and the Uwell Rafael X I've just been ripping through the juiceYou keep flaunting that piglet Im apt to come take it
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I feel like.. we'll be fine. There's too many people willing to stand up and fight, it's too hard for them to regulate certain things, we'll get through this.
If not, Me, Raymo and a CNC machinist will open up a black market warehouse in a garage somewhere. Hit us up on Ebay.
If not, Me, Raymo and a CNC machinist will open up a black market warehouse in a garage somewhere. Hit us up on Ebay.
Could make the site for it if need be
I don't code but I have an account with Linode that's been gathering dust. I can build out and provide the server
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The only problem is it doesn't last forever.
I've got 1 1/2 liters of 100mg nic juice in the freezer, will be getting another couple liters soon. That will last year's
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I can rig up boost, buck and boost/buck converters all day, I can wire 555 PWM modulators and set the signal, hell I can do a lot. I'm not 100% savvy with board programming though, Raymo could do that. I definitely cannot machine, so we need somebody who can take our blueprints and make them into RDA's, RTA's and such. Maybe a glass maker for the RTA glasses. O-rings we could contract out, I feel we could make the drip tips easily too. Enclosures, again, easy. Plus certain modding parts will go no where. Then we need a hardcore DIYer to mix up juice.
Further more we will be needing armed guards to fight off the FDA onslaught from outside our underground vape bunker, you must be willing to lay down your life. We need a helicopter armada for our shipping distribution, maybe a couple of private jets. Then we're gonna need some armored vehicles with armed guards for distribution as well.
We also need a nuclear fusion reactor to provide free energy to our bunker, and we need a technician to design sick ass laz0r beams to scare the FDA away. We got this guys, we can do it.
We're so fucked.
Further more we will be needing armed guards to fight off the FDA onslaught from outside our underground vape bunker, you must be willing to lay down your life. We need a helicopter armada for our shipping distribution, maybe a couple of private jets. Then we're gonna need some armored vehicles with armed guards for distribution as well.
We also need a nuclear fusion reactor to provide free energy to our bunker, and we need a technician to design sick ass laz0r beams to scare the FDA away. We got this guys, we can do it.
We're so fucked.
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Get a liquid nitrogen cooler and freeze it cyrogenically.
I have no idea how much that would cost, but it doesn't sound cheap.
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Then enlist your service to the underground vape bunker as an armed laz0r beam guard.
From what I've read it'll last for many years in the freezer. I've got it in 1/2 liter bottles. When I need to use it I'll break a 1/2 liter bottle into smaller 10-15 ml bottles
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Okay, sounds like I need to buy about 4 more liters to store in the freezer. That will probably last me the rest of my life.
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Or you could just taper off nicotine completely and save yourself a lot of heartache.
Seriously as I posted the juice maker's need to re-label and sell their juice without the nicotine for what it is, food flavoring. We just need to add the nicotine as they do in Australia and now the EU.
Fuck the Puppet Politicians of the Tobacco and Pharmaceutical companies. They are only concerned about the money they're loosing. It's in their self interest for the public to get sick and die early. As useless as it really is I vote and vote against any Politician that is in bed with them.
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Fuck the Puppet Politicians of the Tobacco and Pharmaceutical companies. They are only concerned about the money they're loosing. It's in their self interest for the public to get sick and die early. As useless as it really is I vote and vote against any Politician that is in bed with them.
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Just remember to get smaller bottles. When you remove the nicotine from the freezer let it gradually come to room temperature in a dark place. Transfer to smaller bottles and store those. Air and light really degrade nicotine fast.
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I don't see nicotine as a whole getting removed from the market, so I wouldn't stock up for a lifetime, be sensible until you know you can't be.
Here is my source, very good quality and smooth. They're relocating but will be back in full swing by the 20th
http://www.vapeclarity.com/store/c1/Featured_Products.html
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It's easy to store and with the BS coming down it's a good idea to have some stored. Look at the bullshit the EU and Australia is going through. At the very minimum it's going to get harder to get and expensive
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I have 7 gallons of nicotine base as it is.