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We all know Joe the "Pimp"
We all love Joe for cheap prices
I believe this forum was created for one purpose
To make money for the investors
Fine, if free discussion leads to further knowledge, then all the better
But, it's not it's primary function
It's function is to make money
It's always been Joe's Modus operandi

As a movement though
I think that leeches like Joe hinder our movement
He's not really interested in vaping as a community, he's only interested in what money it can make him
He advocates things that pay him money
Flame away
 
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it hurts sometimes to pull the bandaid off.....
 

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making sure that new vapers know what they're getting into
Join your local boards
You'll get more honest info there
 

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Looking at the list of posts you've made it seems like you are trying to see how far you can push. I smell an agenda. maybe your trying to get banned or booted so you can go back wherever you usually hang out and say how badly you were treated. Or possibly you just really like to start crap for no reason because you're naturally a malcontent.
Whatever the reason it really doesn't seem like you're trying to help anyone.
 

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no........
I just want all to know that Joe isn't here to help from the goodness of his heart
He's here to make money from all of you
 

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Actually if you see all the ads, i don't make a dime from any of them.

So your wrong, but being the open forum that we are. We wont delete you post.

I'll let the forums success speak for itself :)
 

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like........
pfffft
Are you actually saying in public that you advocate vapor joe?
Can you spell lame?
 

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I could give a crap if you deleted them or not Devil
You're doing the wrong thing for our community
Maybe, you don't know it
 

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20+ msgs posted and every one of em is a complaint or whining about something. No one is forcing you to stay. If you have personal issues with someone then thats your problem not the forums
 

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Posts like this show us how effective we are.
 

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You couldn't have chosen the higher ground could you?
You squandered away an opportunity
You might make lots of money, but you've lost all credibility with long time vapers
 

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Hi Brian! Welcome. Aren't you an admin at WackedOut? Tell me more about hidden agendas :D
I probably have the privilege of talking to Joe as much as anyone gets to, and I'm in a pretty good position to say he's truly and deeply passionate about vaping and the community. How often do you two get together and have a real heart to heart?
In either case, it's nice to have you here. Keep posting because it helps our SEO!
 

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20+ msgs posted and every one of em is a complaint or whining about something. No one is forcing you to stay. If you have personal issues with someone then thats your problem not the forums

spoken like a true robot
 

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I have no idea the financial terms or agreements that the site has with vendors or advertisements. With that said, even if profits were to be turned in, so what? The fact that for the past few years VJ and group have been posting up news and deals which have benefit us all. If there is an affiliate link tied to them to give a small percent back, so what? I hate to break this to you, but just about every site on the internet does this. The entire original site was based around finding awesome deals for the vaping community.

Never once have I felt a post was motivated by greed. In fact, the only time Joe ever provides input is when he has tried a specific product and enjoys it. For example a post might read "$X for 30ml bottles from Insert Vendor. I've tried the Vanilla and it was really good." I see nothing wrong with that, in fact I may hate vanilla but have another flavor there that is good at the sale price.

Now on to this site. This site, as of right now at least, reminds me very much of a forum I use to be quite active in. Where it is built and remains tight knit. No real agendas on the table. If someone has an issue with something, let it get hashed out. Sure sometimes it gets heated, but level heads usually prevail. Are there ads and affiliate linking? Of course. Servers are EXPENSIVE. If you aren't familar with hosting an actual site, you would be shocked what it costs to run a highly trafficed website with minimal downtime. The ads are there to help offset the cost.

It's not like there are ads for "Male enchancement" and the next great diet fad. All the ads right now are from vendors who like the idea of this forum and are showing support while hitting a target market. There are no popups and as far as I can tell, not even AdSense boxes. These are specific approved ads, something most sites do not do 100%. Then after all is said and done, if Joe (or any of his team members) make some money on it, is that really a bad thing? We aren't a charity, nor are we going to cure a disease, why should Joe volunteer his time without getting compensation?

Even if money were being made, I'm fairly certain if you take the hours worked on the sites and compared it to salary obtained you will find that Joe isn't driving home to go for a swim in his vault of gold coins.

I know not to feed the trolls and all, but posts like the OP are somewhat silly and based on no merit. I actually hope you come up with something to sell the community. The mods will be happy to open up a subforum for your company, free of charge. :)
 

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I have no idea the financial terms or agreements that the site has with vendors or advertisements. With that said, even if profits were to be turned in, so what? The fact that for the past few years VJ and group have been posting up news and deals which have benefit us all. If there is an affiliate link tied to them to give a small percent back, so what? I hate to break this to you, but just about every site on the internet does this. The entire original site was based around finding awesome deals for the vaping community.

Never once have I felt a post was motivated by greed. In fact, the only time Joe ever provides input is when he has tried a specific product and enjoys it. For example a post might read "$X for 30ml bottles from Insert Vendor. I've tried the Vanilla and it was really good." I see nothing wrong with that, in fact I may hate vanilla but have another flavor there that is good at the sale price.

Now on to this site. This site, as of right now at least, reminds me very much of a forum I use to be quite active in. Where it is built and remains tight knit. No real agendas on the table. If someone has an issue with something, let it get hashed out. Sure sometimes it gets heated, but level heads usually prevail. Are there ads and affiliate linking? Of course. Servers are EXPENSIVE. If you aren't familar with hosting an actual site, you would be shocked what it costs to run a highly trafficed website with minimal downtime. The ads are there to help offset the cost.

It's not like there are ads for "Male enchancement" and the next great diet fad. All the ads right now are from vendors who like the idea of this forum and are showing support while hitting a target market. There are no popups and as far as I can tell, not even AdSense boxes. These are specific approved ads, something most sites do not do 100%. Then after all is said and done, if Joe (or any of his team members) make some money on it, is that really a bad thing? We aren't a charity, nor are we going to cure a disease, why should Joe volunteer his time without getting compensation?

Even if money were being made, I'm fairly certain if you take the hours worked on the sites and compared it to salary obtained you will find that Joe isn't driving home to go for a swim in his vault of gold coins.

I know not to feed the trolls and all, but posts like the OP are somewhat silly and based on no merit. I actually hope you come up with something to sell the community. The mods will be happy to open up a subforum for your company, free of charge. :)

He supports clones!
'nuff said!
 

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NOT THE CLONES!! NEVER THAT!!!!!!!
 

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He supports clones!
'nuff said!
Not for anything, but so do you. Case in point, having checked out your forum listing sponsors I see quite a few clone vendors. Come on man, you can't be the pot calling the kettle black.
 

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It could be about clones
But you Joe, are disingenuous
you're a pimp.... a ho
sad
 

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Not for anything, but so do you. Case in point, having checked out your forum listing sponsors I see quite a few clone vendors. Come on man, you can't be the pot calling the kettle black.

I have no issue with vendors selling clones
What I have an issue with is a media strong man feeding the masses of nincompoops into his clutches
 

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It could be about clones
But you Joe, are disingenuous
you're a pimp.... a ho
sad
Let's take Joe out of the equation here and since I don't know him from anything other than the website and the shows, he very well could be a "pimp..... a hoe" or perhaps the "Devil" as you stated. What is wrong with the website or what he is doing, that is different than say your forum? You have ads, this site has ads. Again there aren't many who don't. Web hosting bills need to get paid.

The fact that a post like this should speak plenty for what this site will be. In fact, you made it very clear you are set to "troll", yet no ban or block. Kind cool isn't it?
 

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Well......
The fact that any decent vape board has included a mandatory flame Joe's board for any new inductee says it all
 

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Well......
The fact that any decent vape board has included a mandatory flame Joe's board for any new inductee says it all
Decent is rather subjective. Not sure if a mandatory flame anything is really up to what I feel is decent. Either way, it's bed time so I shall leave you with this based on the post on your forum.
 

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brian there is nothing wrong with clones. they are super cheap and work really well. they look just like the real thing too!!! i wish all modders would just give up so that ehpro and hcigar could make all the mods. nothing makes me happier than supporting businesses that make cheap stuff. i mean its not their fault they are too stupid to come up with an original idea. why should they invest money in R&D and have to hire designers and engineers when someone else has already done the work for them? im buying clone everything. just waiting for vaporjoes to post some info about a clone ferrari and my life will be complete.
 

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We all know Joe the "Pimp"
We all love Joe for cheap prices
I believe this forum was created for one purpose
To make money for the investors
Fine, if free discussion leads to further knowledge, then all the better
But, it's not it's primary function
It's function is to make money
It's always been Joe's Modus operandi

As a movement though
I think that leeches like Joe hinder our movement
He's not really interested in vaping as a community, he's only interested in what money it can make him
He advocates things that pay him money
Flame away
This isn't the first time I've seen this kind of statement being made.
Let's say he's making bank from his blog and these forums, who the fuck cares? Don't be all butt hurt you didn't think of it first. Lots of people like to make waves, welcome to the Internet....
 

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brian there is nothing wrong with clones. they are super cheap and work really well. they look just like the real thing too!!! i wish all modders would just give up so that ehpro and hcigar could make all the mods. nothing makes me happier than supporting businesses that make cheap stuff. i mean its not their fault they are too stupid to come up with an original idea. why should they invest money in R&D and have to hire designers and engineers when someone else has already done the work for them? im buying clone everything. just waiting for vaporjoes to post some info about a clone ferrari and my life will be complete.

Hope this is sarcasm because I just don't like these statements, honestly. I wish there was a thumbs down button.
 

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He supports clones!
'nuff said!
Ugh, and so do the thousands of vapers who buy them, and the hundreds of vendors who sell and make a living from selling them. Get over it. Clones are here, people are going to buy them. Get over it. FWIW, clones have their place in the market, as do the authentic.
 

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I used to be a member of wacked out for all most a year stopped going there though.

This behaviour is perplexing to me everyone was so nice then. From what I just read it's a big circle jerk of hate joe for no real reason.
 

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wow! Who stole my popcorn, damn it....
 

thechinaman

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wow you guys are so funny. someday i hope that i can read threads and miss the point as well as you guys do. then i hope i will have the sense to grab all my buddies find the ops home forum and troll them there. when thats all done maybe you can teach me how to post a bunch of memes and videos so that i can be a part of the circle jerk too? man, this place is great. truly a place to share knowledge and have open honest discussions.
 
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