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Which US Presidential candidate will you be voting for?


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Besides, what team? I fly the Jolly Roger.

Either,


Fucktasttics

Or;

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Take yur pick.
 

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I doubt Hilary is interested in sex with men.....Chelsea was a neccesary appendage to create the wholesome family picture rather than the serial rapist/married to woman who drools over other chicks clevages picture.....

I think she's interested, just doesn't get much so she takes what she can get. Was probably hacking up a Huma pube and never had pneumonia.
 

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What amazes me if the founder of Wikileaks has lived so long as a virtual prisoner in that embassy, why not get citizenship of that friendly nation and maybe even a diplomatic passport. Jillian has enough dosh to Grease the right palms lol . Then be smuggled out and go and live in the friendly country and give the USA a one finger salute. How many war criminals do just that? Rofl

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What amazes me if the founder of Wikileaks has lived so long as a virtual prisoner in that embassy, why not get citizenship of that friendly nation and maybe even a diplomatic passport. Jillian has enough dosh to Grease the right palms lol . Then be smuggled out and go and live in the friendly country and give the USA a one finger salute. How many war criminals do just that? Rofl

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cause he'd dead before the sunset.
 

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As more and more wikileaks come out,it really makes clear to the world something alot of us have known for a long time...that Hilary Clinton is like a third world despot...a vote for her is a vote to condone and legitamize lawlessness, and anarchy where the powerful and rich impose their will without restraint, where the average person has no chance for justice. The death of the republic, the constitution,free speech free thought and free press.where political dissent is met with violence.This isnt a matter of whether you vote republican or democrat,Libertarian or Green....its about whether you will ever get to vote again.
 

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As more and more wikileaks come out,it really makes clear to the world something alot of us have known for a long time...that Hilary Clinton is like a third world despot...a vote for her is a vote to condone and legitamize lawlessness, and anarchy where the powerful and rich impose their will without restraint, where the average person has no chance for justice. The death of the republic, the constitution,free speech free thought and free press.where political dissent is met with violence.This isnt a matter of whether you vote republican or democrat,Libertarian or Green....its about whether you will ever get to vote again.

I don't know that I'd call it anarchy. Anarchy implies equal opportunity. I think I'd go with hierarchy. Hierarchy with lawlessness for the ruling class, grey law for the upper class and strict law for the rest. And I don't think rich or poor has much to do with it. I think the ruling class will impose law of their choosing on even the super rich if they pose a threat, as in don't conform to the hierarchy. Likewise, a poor person could be a tool to shore up the hierarchy and thus have law loosened on them, such as the Fogal guy from the video who is really a nobody but was given a place because he was a useful tool. I suspect he'll not be charged with anything and if he is, it's because he was stupid and risked the hierarchy.
 

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I don't know that I'd call it anarchy. Anarchy implies equal opportunity. I think I'd go with hierarchy. Hierarchy with lawlessness for the ruling class, grey law for the upper class and strict law for the rest. And I don't think rich or poor has much to do with it. I think the ruling class will impose law of their choosing on even the super rich if they pose a threat, as in don't conform to the hierarchy. Likewise, a poor person could be a tool to shore up the hierarchy and thus have law loosened on them, such as the Fogal guy from the video who is really a nobody but was given a place because he was a useful tool. I suspect he'll not be charged with anything and if he is, it's because he was stupid and risked the hierarchy.
Yea, I'd be an Anarchist if I wasn't a cynic.
Personal responsibility. "An it harm none do what ye will." But I don't have grey pubes for nothing,
unfortunately humans need some kind of authority to keep the peace. What Mrs Clitoris wants is fascism.
It isn't anarchy, socialism, communism, or any other type of ism but fascism.
A dictatorship of the corporate state governed by an elite ruling junta.
Think ant colony, we're the worker ants and Hitlery is the queen
 
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Yea, I'd be an Anarchist if I wasn't a cynic.
Personal responsibility. "An it harm none do what ye will." But I don't have grey pubes for nothing,
unfortunately humans need some kind of authority to keep the peace. What Mrs Clitoris wants if fascism.
It isn't anarchy, socialism, communism, or any other type of ism but fascism.
A dictatorship of the corporate state governed by an elite ruling junta.
Think ant colony, we're the worker ants and Hitlery is the queen

The problem with authority is that it can be abused, and as we are seeing, it's very difficult to fend off abused authority. And to be frank, there is still crime with the authority. I don't see how authority solves anything. There is still murder and mayhem. So now we still have crime and on top of it we have authority being abused.

I'm not so sure that authority doesn't compound the problem rather than solve it. I sure ain't seeing much peace after centuries of authority. Just sayin'. And we are supposed to be the top shelf example of the world.

I would settle for very small government. Very small. Authority always turns to hierarchy. At least if the government is very small, you could wipe out the hierarchy from time to time without much disruption to the whole.
 

HazyShades

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kinder & gentler America
yea, some like it. I didn't believe a word. the guy was head of the cia
you think I'm going to believe anything he said? I liked Dubya
he's funny. A real nice guy for a sonofabitch. Not kidding, I met him a long time ago
when he was slumming in Gainesville. Jeb made a mess in FL.
It's their reptilian mother with the weird white hair...LOL.

Here's the speech:

But I like this better
 

HazyShades

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The problem with authority is that it can be abused, and as we are seeing, it's very difficult to fend off abused authority. And to be frank, there is still crime with the authority. I don't see how authority solves anything. There is still murder and mayhem. So now we still have crime and on top of it we have authority being abused.

I'm not so sure that authority doesn't compound the problem rather than solve it. I sure ain't seeing much peace after centuries of authority. Just sayin'. And we are supposed to be the top shelf example of the world.

I would settle for very small government. Very small. Authority always turns to hierarchy. At least if the government is very small, you could wipe out the hierarchy from time to time without much disruption to the whole.
yea but even a very small tiny government has to have some authority. I've always questioned authority.
Like, "What gives you the authority?" Again, I would prefer a system of natural law and mutual respect, anarchy
with self imposed responsibility.
But think few people are capable of living that way. I agree with you that authority
often compounds and escalates problems, more often than not.
In fact that's a dilemma for me as a political conservative. It seems that if one supports
Trump one must also turn a blind eye to police abuse. Not all cops are good
some often abuse authority. But it seems society demands conformity in everything.
A Trump sign must have a thin blue line...

I like innocent until proven guilty, probable cause, Miranda rights, warrants, warning shots,
and most importantly equal enforcement of laws for all with no selective enforcement of laws.
Most Trump supporters also support the 2nd Amendment, the NRA and own at least one gun.
Somebody asked a copsucker Trump supporter a good question;
"When they come for your guns, who do you think will be coming?"

I really like the 4th Amendment.
Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Now-a-days cops can write their own warrants. They do not knock on your door, hand you a warrant, and politely wait for you to read it. They knock down your door with a battering ram
and run in discharging flash bang grenades, in combat gear armed to the teeth.
I have a huge problem with that.
 
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HazyShades

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I did the survey but put in a fake email because I wasn't sure if it was legit, can't see the results.

just wanted to see what others have voted for...

Have you done it?

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Nope. As a rule I don't do those. I posted the link because of what the map reports
the prospective electoral college vote to be at this point.
 

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I don't know that I'd call it anarchy. Anarchy implies equal opportunity. I think I'd go with hierarchy. Hierarchy with lawlessness for the ruling class, grey law for the upper class and strict law for the rest. And I don't think rich or poor has much to do with it. I think the ruling class will impose law of their choosing on even the super rich if they pose a threat, as in don't conform to the hierarchy. Likewise, a poor person could be a tool to shore up the hierarchy and thus have law loosened on them, such as the Fogal guy from the video who is really a nobody but was given a place because he was a useful tool. I suspect he'll not be charged with anything and if he is, it's because he was stupid and risked the hierarchy.
I've heard anarchy described as...that form of goverment that allows the strong to rule the weak....I think that what it inevitablly evolves into.
 

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The problem with authority is that it can be abused,
Will be abused, pretty much every single time.

I've always questioned authority. Like, "What gives you the authority?"
Ostensibly, the people delegate it. But this is factually incorrect because individuals can't delegate what they don't have to begin with. Thus it's a myth, a superstition, and no one has a moral obligation to obey the "authorities".
 

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The problem with authority is that it can be abused, and as we are seeing, it's very difficult to fend off abused authority. And to be frank, there is still crime with the authority. I don't see how authority solves anything. There is still murder and mayhem. So now we still have crime and on top of it we have authority being abused.

I'm not so sure that authority doesn't compound the problem rather than solve it. I sure ain't seeing much peace after centuries of authority. Just sayin'. And we are supposed to be the top shelf example of the world.

I would settle for very small government. Very small. Authority always turns to hierarchy. At least if the government is very small, you could wipe out the hierarchy from time to time without much disruption to the whole.
power should be distributed as broadly as possible.
 

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Will be abused, pretty much every single time.


Ostensibly, the people delegate it. But this is factually incorrect because individuals can't delegate what they don't have to begin with. Thus it's a myth, a superstition, and no one has a moral obligation to obey the "authorities".
fucking philosopher....just fix the potholes without starting WWIII.
 

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Hello fanbois
You all still day dreaming?!
Have a good day!


Take ur meds NARCIS
the tin-foil, head gear convention is hilarious.
 

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I had a great conversation with one of my renter last night about the whole fucking political world...what he was telling me last night was very similar to what you fanbois are talking about... the only difference is
HE KNOWS HOW TO LISTEN and
He ain't GRUMPY MOTHERFUCKER!! Unlike you all NARCIS!!

Let me give you all a background of this RENTER

MALE
67years old
WHITE
FROM ST LOUIS MISSOURI
AI $25Ok
HOME OWNER
Divorced twice
2 adult kids
Still working... YUP...for the evaders!

He hates GLOBALIZATION
HE HATES EVERYTHING LIBERAL
HE HATES HILARY CLINTON
HES PRO SMALL GOVERNMENT
HE DOESN'T LIKE TRUMP BUT HE WILL VOTE FOR HIM
HES AN ASSHOLE
Have a nice day NARCIS!




Take ur meds NARCIS
 

HondaDavidson

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Y'all do realize the problem with government isn't really those we elect.. It's what they do after elected and those that stay after the term ends and the people they hire and appoint to run the government, and allowing ignorant people the vote, that are the problem. Those in authority can only excercise the power we and more important the bueaucracy allows.
 

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Y'all do realize the problem with government isn't really those we elect.. It's what they do after elected and those that stay after the term ends and the people they hire and appoint to run the government, and allowing ignorant people the vote, that are the problem. Those in authority can only excercise the power we and more important the bueaucracy allows.

Orange monster will fix all that sir...
ORANGE IS THE NEW BLACK!


Take ur meds NARCIS
 
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