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MOAB drop ordered by US general, Trump approval not needed, officials say

By Jennifer Griffin | FoxNews.com
Published April 14, 2017

The decision to drop the largest non-nuclear bomb ever used in combat was made by the top U.S. commander on the ground, officials told Fox News on Friday, after the so-called "mother of all bombs" was used to obliterate an ISIS target in Afghanistan.

Fox News is told that Gen. John Nicholson made the decision on his own. President Trump’s approval apparently was not needed.

Trump himself declined to say Thursday where the order came from, but stressed that he has given the military complete flexibility.

“We have given [the military] total authorization,” Trump told reporters. “Frankly, that’s why they’ve been so successful lately.”

The Massive Ordnance Air Blast bomb, or MOAB, arrived in Afghanistan in early January, and is designed for its psychological effect as much as the damage it causes – the 21,000-pound bomb has a blast radius of one mile.

WHAT IS THE MOAB?

When the Air Force tested the GBU-43/B in 2003 at the start of the Iraq war, the plume from the explosion reached 10,000 feet into the air. Until Thursday, it was never used in combat.


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Turning the military loose has advantages and disadvantages too.
 

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Aww someone is afraid to back up their claims because they know they are full of shit.... look how sad it is. Here is an idea, stop pretending you were EVER a Trump supporter and admit you are a libertarian.... then all will make sense in the world with your crying and pouting and protesting.

Still looking at the wiggly dick? If I quit posting it, will you go back and read to answer your own question?

I didn't think so. More wiggly dick for you. Look, a dead gummy worm!
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Still looking at the wiggly dick? If I quit posting it, will you go back and read to answer your own question?

I didn't think so. More wiggly dick for you. Look, a dead gummy worm!
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Not going to read 13k posts................. so no. You are full of shit and a libertarian so who cares what you think anymore stop pretending to have been a trump supporter
 

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Yet again.
Trump claimed to have created 600,000 jobs.
BLS number says around 317,000 new jobs.
That isnt a lie, that is rather unimportant even if you considered it to be one... how does this "lie" affect you? There is nothing detrimental to you from this supposed "lie"

Not saying jobs numbers are not important.... but the number is what it is... whether he says one thing or another it doesnt affect you that he said that..
 

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That isnt a lie, that is rather unimportant even if you considered it to be one... how does this "lie" affect you? There is nothing detrimental to you from this supposed "lie"

Not saying jobs numbers are not important.... but the number is what it is... whether he says one thing or another it doesnt affect you that he said that..
A lie is a lie.
if he will lie about that he will lie about things that do affect me.
And that is not his only lie.

So how does lies about Trump affect YOU?
False Trump news?

Answer...
Not one damn bit, but you will still whine about them.
 

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So let me get this straight...
A politician's lies are ok, so long as they do not directly effect someone?


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So let me get this straight...
A politician's lies are ok, so long as they do not directly effect someone?


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There are white lies then there are grave mistake lies... if you cannot separate the two i suggest you find someone who can help you.
 

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Politician's Lie, It's an inconvenient truth. :giggle:
Everybody wants to look good. IF the lie doesnt hurt anybody then who cares. 85 days in and we have liberals and libertarians whining and crying foul... as if any president before him has made good on half as many campaign promises in 85 days as he has.
 

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A lie is a lie.
if he will lie about that he will lie about things that do affect me.
And that is not his only lie.

So how does lies about Trump affect YOU?
False Trump news?

Answer...
Not one damn bit, but you will still whine about them.
Yea because an arbitrary number is the same as physically doing something... keep crying, it amuses me. his "lies" as you put it are nothing to get butt hurt about.
 

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There are white lies then there are grave mistake lies... if you cannot separate the two i suggest you find someone who can help you.


Politician's Lie, It's an inconvenient truth. :giggle:
I realize that.
I find it sad that we are at a point of accepting lies from our leaders.

I find it more sad that people are defending the lies of the present asshat in office. The same people seconding this asshat's lies were probably the loudest screamers about the last asshat's lies.

I thought before the election, people were demanding a higher standard from our leaders.

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I realize that.
I find it sad that we are at a point of accepting lies from our leaders.

I find it more sad that people are defending the lies of the present asshat in office. The same people seconding this asshat's lies were probably the loudest screamers about the last asshat's lies.

I thought before the election, people were demanding a higher standard from our leaders.

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I havent defended his "lies" because he hasnt lied about ANYTHING IMPORTANT. You have to take the bad with the good, fact of life.
 

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I realize that.
I find it sad that we are at a point of accepting lies from our leaders.

I find it more sad that people are defending the lies of the present asshat in office. The same people seconding this asshat's lies were probably the loudest screamers about the last asshat's lies.

I thought before the election, people were demanding a higher standard from our leaders.

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Sadly enough it is a case of "Your guy was worse than our guy".
Pathetic humans...

the most pathetic thing is that those humans think this guy will make America great again...
Sub pathetic. I do not know the word for it.
 

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complain about the govt going to hell and they say their favored leader has not lied about anything important?
Plumb Stoopit, does not even make it up to stupid.

The problem is that Neocons just cannot be wrong. therefore the one they support cannot be wrong.
 

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Not going to read 13k posts................. so no. You are full of shit and a libertarian so who cares what you think anymore stop pretending to have been a trump supporter

You don't have to read 13k posts dumb ass. Go back 2 weeks.

But your a lazy idjit, so I'll help you out with a new post.

Trump's Base Turns On "Flipper-In-Chief"

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-14/trumps-base-turns-flipper-chief

You might be too lazy to click the link so I'll paste a bit for you, though you should read it fully and then read the comments at the bottom. Being young and dumb can be changed with some years and education.


"Donald Trump dropped an emotional anchor. He captured how Americans feel," said Tania Vojvodic, a fervent Trump supporter who founded one of his first campaign volunteer networks. "We expect him to keep his word, and right now he's not keeping his word."

"I'm not so infatuated with Trump that I can't see the facts," she said. "People's belief, their trust in him, it’s declining."

“It was like, here’s the chance to do something different. And that’s why people’s hopes are dashed,” said Lee Stranahan, who, as a former writer at Breitbart News, once worked with Bannon. “There was always the question of, ‘Did he really believe this stuff?’ Apparently, the answer is, ‘Not as much as you’d like.’”

Trump voters “felt like they were voting for an anti-establishment candidate — and they're terrified, they're losing faith," Cardillo said. "They're saying, ‘Why does he have these people around him?’"




Goodbye strong dollar and high interest rates

In an announcement that rocked currency markets, Trump told the WSJ that the U.S. dollar “is getting too strong” and he would prefer the Federal Reserve keep interest rates low. “I do like a low-interest rate policy, I must be honest with you,” Mr. Trump said. “I think our dollar is getting too strong, and partially that’s my fault because people have confidence in me. But that’s hurting—that will hurt ultimately,” he added. “Look, there’s some very good things about a strong dollar, but usually speaking the best thing about it is that it sounds good.”

Trump then said the one thing that every other currency manipulator realizes all too well: “It’s very, very hard to compete when you have a strong dollar and other countries are devaluing their currency.”

During his campaign Trump had repeatedly said that a "strong dollar" policy would be beneficial for the US economy, despite our repeat warnings that he will inevitably reverse on this, especially if and when the "Goldman" circle of advisors starts providing macroconomic advice.


Labeling China a currency manipulator

"They’re not currency manipulators," the president said, adding that China hasn’t been manipulating its currency for months, and that he feared derailing U.S.-China talks to crack down on North Korea. Trump routinely criticized President Obama for not labeling China a currency manipulator, and promised during the campaign to do so on day one of his administration.

Trump's declaration also means that Peter Navarro may as well pack his bags, as the Goldman economic advisory team has now won its contest with the "Bannon nationalist" circle.

Yellen's future

Trump also told the Journal he’d consider re-nominating Yellen to chair the Fed's board of governors, after attacking her during his campaign." I like her. I respect her,” Trump said, “It’s very early.”

Trump called Yellen “obviously political” in September and accused her of keeping interest rates low to boost the stock market and make Obama look good. “As soon as [rates] go up, your stock market is going to go way down, most likely,” Trump said. "Or possibly.”

Export-Import Bank

Trump also voiced support behind the Export-Import Bank, which helps subsidize some U.S. exports, after opposing it during the campaign.


“It turns out that, first of all, lots of small companies are really helped, the vendor companies,” Trump told the Journal. “Instinctively, you would say, ‘Isn’t that a ridiculous thing,’ but actually, it’s a very good thing. And it actually makes money, it could make a lot of money.”

Trump’s support will anger conservative opponents of the bank, who say it enables crony capitalism.

NATO

Finally, Trump said NATO is "no longer obsolete" during a Wednesday press conference with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, backtracking on his past criticism of the alliance. During the campaign, he frequently called the organization "obsolete," saying did little to crack down on terrorism and that its other members don’t pay their “fair share.”

“I said it was obsolete. It is no longer obsolete," the president said Wednesday.


Lies, all lies.
 
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You don't have to read 13k posts dumb ass. Go back 2 weeks.

But your a lazy idjit, so I'll help you out with a new post.

Trump's Base Turns On "Flipper-In-Chief"

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-14/trumps-base-turns-flipper-chief

You might be too lazy to click the link so I'll paste a bit for you, though you should read it fully and then read the comments at the bottom. Being young and dumb can be changed with some years and education.


"Donald Trump dropped an emotional anchor. He captured how Americans feel," said Tania Vojvodic, a fervent Trump supporter who founded one of his first campaign volunteer networks. "We expect him to keep his word, and right now he's not keeping his word."

"I'm not so infatuated with Trump that I can't see the facts," she said. "People's belief, their trust in him, it’s declining."

“It was like, here’s the chance to do something different. And that’s why people’s hopes are dashed,” said Lee Stranahan, who, as a former writer at Breitbart News, once worked with Bannon. “There was always the question of, ‘Did he really believe this stuff?’ Apparently, the answer is, ‘Not as much as you’d like.’”

Trump voters “felt like they were voting for an anti-establishment candidate — and they're terrified, they're losing faith," Cardillo said. "They're saying, ‘Why does he have these people around him?’"
Nice liberal media you found here. He hasnt had time to keep all of his promises, and nothing has been taken off the table


Goodbye strong dollar and high interest rates

In an announcement that rocked currency markets, Trump told the WSJ that the U.S. dollar “is getting too strong” and he would prefer the Federal Reserve keep interest rates low. “I do like a low-interest rate policy, I must be honest with you,” Mr. Trump said. “I think our dollar is getting too strong, and partially that’s my fault because people have confidence in me. But that’s hurting—that will hurt ultimately,” he added. “Look, there’s some very good things about a strong dollar, but usually speaking the best thing about it is that it sounds good.”

Trump then said the one thing that every other currency manipulator realizes all too well: “It’s very, very hard to compete when you have a strong dollar and other countries are devaluing their currency.”

During his campaign Trump had repeatedly said that a "strong dollar" policy would be beneficial for the US economy, despite our repeat warnings that he will inevitably reverse on this, especially if and when the "Goldman" circle of advisors starts providing macroconomic advice.
so what he has enjoyed as an investor/builder means that is what he plans for the country... give me a break he gave his opinion as a business man not as the President of the united states..... again these are just words... show me actions that proves he is lying or has lied.

Labeling China a currency manipulator

"They’re not currency manipulators," the president said, adding that China hasn’t been manipulating its currency for months, and that he feared derailing U.S.-China talks to crack down on North Korea. Trump routinely criticized President Obama for not labeling China a currency manipulator, and promised during the campaign to do so on day one of his administration.

Trump's declaration also means that Peter Navarro may as well pack his bags, as the Goldman economic advisory team has now won its contest with the "Bannon nationalist" circle.
Nothing is set in stone with china, concessions have to be made to make deals... dealing with N.Korea might be worth it, we'll see again nothing in action here..


Yellen's future

Trump also told the Journal he’d consider re-nominating Yellen to chair the Fed's board of governors, after attacking her during his campaign." I like her. I respect her,” Trump said, “It’s very early.”

Trump called Yellen “obviously political” in September and accused her of keeping interest rates low to boost the stock market and make Obama look good. “As soon as [rates] go up, your stock market is going to go way down, most likely,” Trump said. "Or possibly.”
Obviously he likes that the stock market is doing well right now... he doesnt want to see it end right away.. again nothing done yet...


Export-Import Bank

Trump also voiced support behind the Export-Import Bank, which helps subsidize some U.S. exports, after opposing it during the campaign.


“It turns out that, first of all, lots of small companies are really helped, the vendor companies,” Trump told the Journal. “Instinctively, you would say, ‘Isn’t that a ridiculous thing,’ but actually, it’s a very good thing. And it actually makes money, it could make a lot of money.”

Trump’s support will anger conservative opponents of the bank, who say it enables crony capitalism.
So at one point he didnt have all the facts to make the best possible decision, he is learning as he goes.... your point? again these are just words so not a lie..

NATO

Finally, Trump said NATO is "no longer obsolete" during a Wednesday press conference with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, backtracking on his past criticism of the alliance. During the campaign, he frequently called the organization "obsolete," saying did little to crack down on terrorism and that its other members don’t pay their “fair share.”

“I said it was obsolete. It is no longer obsolete," the president said Wednesday.

Apparently you dont like to watch live press conferences to get the context of all these poorly written articles. NATO was "obsolete" was his first ever remark about it... and everyone is holding him to that when he then later elaborated that the members do not commit their fair share... NATO members are now on the way to doing so.... problem solved via negotiations via President Trump..



So you have shown me that you are no better than the liberal media holding on to every single word and taking it as law rather than rhetoric and passing thoughts...when he says "I WILL MAKE THIS A POLICY" come back to me when he doesnt do it.
 

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Sadly enough it is a case of "Your guy was worse than our guy".
Pathetic humans...

the most pathetic thing is that those humans think this guy will make America great again...
Sub pathetic. I do not know the word for it.

I agree...
I'm still baffled at some lies being 'ok.' It literally amazes me, that at this point in society some are ready to accept dishonesty from their political leaders. Some even praise the guy for lying to them. It's like a whole different reality.

Hell! Even Time and Pulse see him for what he is.
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Sadly enough it is a case of "Your guy was worse than our guy".
Pathetic humans...

the most pathetic thing is that those humans think this guy will make America great again...
Sub pathetic. I do not know the word for it.
Here you go trying to imply you have any ground to stand on.. You are part of the worst of the worst as you have admitted. If you are upset with us humans perhaps you should get closer to your Neanderthal brothers and sisters.
 

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I agree...
I'm still baffled at some lies being 'ok.' It literally amazes me, that at this point in society some are ready to accept dishonesty from their political leaders. Some even praise the guy for lying to them. It's like a whole different reality.

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THIS DUDE should replace Sean spicer!
He's better in defending agent orange!


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I agree...
I'm still baffled at some lies being 'ok.' It literally amazes me, that at this point in society some are ready to accept dishonesty from their political leaders. Some even praise the guy for lying to them. It's like a whole different reality.

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Nobody said his lies are "ok" just not important... not worthy of getting butt hurt about, not worth crying over, not the end of the world... liberals are great at twisting the "facts" to suit their agenda... not surprising it is going on here.
 

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Nobody said his lies are "ok" just not important... not worthy of getting butt hurt about, not worth crying over, not the end of the world... liberals are great at twisting the "facts" to suit their agenda... not surprising it is going on here.

It's a credibility issue. How can you take anyone seriously if they are going to lie.
People should not necessitate a fact checker with everything they say.

Trump put himself in the box with the uncredibles, no one else. He chooses to lie to both his supporters and objectors. Hence, the man's words have zero credibility.

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THIS DUDE should replace Sean spicer!
He's better in defending agent orange!


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Bahahahaha!!!
Roger that!!!!

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It's a credibility issue. How can you take anyone seriously if they are going to lie.
People should not necessitate a fact checker with everything they say.

Trump put himself in the box with the uncredibles, no one else. He chooses to lie to both his supporters and objectors. Hence, the man's words have zero credibility.

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Yea, you go ahead and find me one politician who has never lied..... Ill wait...... ill even put flowers at your grave stone while waiting.
 

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Yea, you go ahead and find me one politician who has never lied..... Ill wait...... ill even put flowers at your grave stone while waiting.

I thought the best part of trump was that he wasn't a career 'politician,' and we can expect better from him.

Oh that was before the election.

He sure turned into a career politician really fast, didn't he?
So far the only difference between him and Hillary is that he grabs the pussy and she licks it.

But back to lying argument ....
Yes, all politicians lie, which is why I think the only way to fix Washington is to reset Washington. Rather than accept lies and cheats for leaders.
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I thought the best part of trump was that he wasn't a career 'politician,' and we can expect better from him.

Oh that was before the election.

He sure turned into a career politician really fast, didn't he?
So far the only difference between him and Hillary is that he grabs the pussy and she licks it.

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WOW you didnt follow him at all during the election did you. He isnt a career politician and has no big spenders that he owes for anything... he is doing what he promised... some people just have sour grapes because they didnt really think we would be here now..... ya'll are really silly for not paying attention to who you voted for if you have buyers remorse at this point in time.


How many times did he change position during the election... numerous especially on trivial things.
 

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WOW you didnt follow him at all during the election did you. He isnt a career politician and has no big spenders that he owes for anything... he is doing what he promised... some people just have sour grapes because they didnt really think we would be here now..... ya'll are really silly for not paying attention to who you voted for if you have buyers remorse at this point in time.


How many times did he change position during the election... numerous especially on trivial things.
So he isn't a politician but he lies like one?


And that makes it ok....


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WOW you didnt follow him at all during the election did you. He isnt a career politician and has no big spenders that he owes for anything... he is doing what he promised... some people just have sour grapes because they didnt really think we would be here now..... ya'll are really silly for not paying attention to who you voted for if you have buyers remorse at this point in time.


How many times did he change position during the election... numerous especially on trivial things.

How sure are you that he doesn't owe anything to anybody? You guys cuddle at night?


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I agree..
And the real haters like my self!!


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Haters going to hate, whats annoying is pretending to have backed trump in the first place. I expect those opposed to trump to remain opposed to trump. its not surprising when things get made up
 

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Haters going to hate, whats annoying is pretending to have backed trump in the first place. I expect those opposed to trump to remain opposed to trump. its not surprising when things get made up

They whole heartedly believed that trump is the JESUS....


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So he isn't a politician but he lies like one?


And that makes it ok....


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Clearly this is going over your head...

A) Changing position does not equate a lie when it was only ever based on rhetoric and not an actual promise. If trump said he hates A but then decides he likes A because of new information he sees from a different perspective well that is not a lie now is it....

If he says I WILL BUILD A WALL and doesnt build it now that would be a lie... you people just dont get it

Who knows what figures he was looking at when he claimed 600k jobs maybe it was jobs promised as well as created i dont pretend to know it all like some people :p
 
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