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The Cromwell

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LMAO

too much trump the emperor actions already is why we are in such a mess.
the emperor has no clothes.

And why would we have CIA officers stationed in all the news rooms?
Pravda?
 

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Washington (CNN)The White House did not anticipate that the Russian government would allow its state news agency to post photographs of an Oval Office meeting between President Donald Trump, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and Russia's ambassador to the US, a White House official said.

"They tricked us," an angry White House official said.
"That's the problem with the Russians -- they lie," the official added.

solution: It should have been open to the press and transparent to the American people.
 

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sure it can. If a Rebutlicken controlled congress cared enough to investigate.

And what would they investigate ? Secretary of State was in the meeting said it never happened so did 3 other NAMED officials . Why we wasting time and energy on bullshit ? Why doesn't the media believe trump like they did Obama when he said there wasn't a hint of corruption in IRS ? Or a problem with the attorney General being in contempt of congress ? Now we need a investigation into in named sources from the Washington post ? Wake up !


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Still think they want a special prosecutor so they can have the freedom to raid anyone and everyone’s homes on a national level just like they did in WI. I’m talking in the middle of the night coming in and grabbing everything under gunpoint and dig for dirt….. If they don’t find it leak crap to the MSM and make it look the way they want it to look!

This could get very ugly on a national level and the sheep will eat it all up.

Don’t think so, that is what we went through with our John Doe. They had no dam reason to go into any of them homes but did it under force and to this day not all of the information taken has been returned even though they had a court order to do so. Hell the people don’t even have a record of what all was taken! Think of it if your PC was taken today what do you have on it and how would you make sure it was all given back and what would be leaked?

If you read the two links I posted and do a little digging it gets dam scary and it was done on a state level!
 

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many would support THEIR party doing just that Carmond.
We are not that far from a police state.
Nice Setup by the patriot act btw.
McCarthyism coming back into fashion?
 

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Washington Post says Trump talked too much with the Rusky
http://myfox8.com/2017/05/15/trump-leaked-classified-info-to-russians-washington-post-reports/
WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump shared highly-classified information with the Russian foreign minister and Russian ambassador to the US in a White House meeting last week, according to The Washington Post.
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But H.R. McMaster, Trump’s national security adviser who participated in the meeting says different

 

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Deep state vs Deep Throat?
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump disclosed highly classified information to the Russian foreign minister during their meeting last week, potentially jeopardizing a source of intelligence about Islamic State, The Washington Post reported on Monday, citing current and former U.S. officials.

The newspaper said the information Trump relayed to Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and Russian Ambassador Sergei Kislyak had been provided by a U.S. partner through a highly sensitive intelligence-sharing arrangement.


Don't they realize the President can declassify anything he wants anytime he wants? It is technically NOT possible for him to disclose classified information as he is the determiner of what is or is not classified. He can make any secret he wants public anytime he wants. He can disclose classified information to to any one he chooses.... Rightness or wrongness is purely a POLITICAL issue.... NOT National Security. The President CANNOT Leak. He is the ONE and ONLY person in government for which this is true.
 

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don't missunderstand I am just withholding judgement......

Afterall.... The Russians weren't there to discuss Grand kids and golf games.. My guess is that MOST of what is discussed in such meetings is Classified. I mean DUH!
 

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Don't they realize the President can declassify anything he wants anytime he wants? It is technically NOT possible for him to disclose classified information as he is the determiner of what is or is not classified. He can make any secret he wants public anytime he wants. He can disclose classified information to to any one he chooses.... Rightness or wrongness is purely a POLITICAL issue.... NOT National Security. The President CANNOT Leak. He is the ONE and ONLY person in government for which this is true.
Treason is impossible for the trump?
 

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Washington Post says Trump talked too much with the Rusky
http://myfox8.com/2017/05/15/trump-leaked-classified-info-to-russians-washington-post-reports/
WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump shared highly-classified information with the Russian foreign minister and Russian ambassador to the US in a White House meeting last week, according to The Washington Post.
[...]

But H.R. McMaster, Trump’s national security adviser who participated in the meeting says different

On the other hand Alex Jones says his sources say McMaster is the leak
(this crap gets more convoluted with each passing day)
 

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And we should believe McMaster with his fealty sworn to Trump above the government?

LOL. Once again, you say the dumbest shit.

Everyone that has a name and was in the meeting, says the story isn't true.

The only person that made the claim in the first place doesn't even have the balls to use his/her name. For fuck sake, we don't even know if there really is a person. One of two things is likely true. 1. The unnamed "source" doesn't exist or, 2. The source lied and doesn't want to be prosecuted. The only way for there to be a possible 3rd option, that it's true, is if the source names him/herself and shows that they were actually there.
 

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LOL. Once again, you say the dumbest shit.

Everyone that has a name and was in the meeting, says the story isn't true.

The only person that made the claim in the first place doesn't even have the balls to use his/her name. For fuck sake, we don't even know if there really is a person. One of two things is likely true. 1. The unnamed "source" doesn't exist or, 2. The source lied and doesn't want to be prosecuted. The only way for there to be a possible 3rd option, that it's true, is if the source names him/herself and shows that they were actually there.
I will pick door #3.

they do not want to pull a Comey.
 

HondaDavidson

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Treason is impossible for the trump?
Sure...... that's why I reserve judgement. It just TOO obvious.

I mean consider the source...... WASHINGTON media ain't been eaxactrly real factual lately.

I mean.....how do the president and sec state and nat sec discuss ISIS or Syria with the Russian sec State and ambassador..... without discussing classified information?

Fwiw the Russian ambassador is GENERALLY the spy master for whatever country they are in. Spying is the Russian national pastime.

it an old fashioned way of international relations used to be called diplomacy.

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Julian Assage retweeted this article (lending credibility).

Family's private investigator: There is evidence Seth Rich had contact with WikiLeaks prior to death

http://www.fox5dc.com/news/local-news/254852337-story



Wheeler, a former D.C. police homicide detective, is running a parallel investigation into Rich’s murder. He said he believes there is a cover-up and the police department has been told to back down from the investigation.

"The police department nor the FBI have been forthcoming,” said Wheeler. “They haven't been cooperating at all. I believe that the answer to solving his death lies on that computer, which I believe is either at the police department or either at the FBI. I have been told both.”
 
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Julian Assage retweeted this article (lending credibility).

Family's private investigator: There is evidence Seth Rich had contact with WikiLeaks prior to death

http://www.fox5dc.com/news/local-news/254852337-story



Wheeler, a former D.C. police homicide detective, is running a parallel investigation into Rich’s murder. He said he believes there is a cover-up and the police department has been told to back down from the investigation.

"The police department nor the FBI have been forthcoming,” said Wheeler. “They haven't been cooperating at all. I believe that the answer to solving his death lies on that computer, which I believe is either at the police department or either at the FBI. I have been told both.”
somehow I don't think Chuck Schumer wants a special investigation into this real crime....not when there are so many ghost stories to chase.
 

HondaDavidson

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somehow I don't think Chuck Schumer wants a special investigation into this real crime....not when there are so many ghost stories to chase.
Ahh but THAT'S WHY they want the SP..... takes investigation out of legal realm puts in under political control...... FBI might find they real bad people. SP will only look for evidence to corroborate charges. They want the investigations 1 taken off their hands and moved away from the department of justice control.

Fact us the SP doesn't technically stop any of the other investigations... but it does give cover to slow or stop the others.

It's all CYA.......

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Sure...... that's why I reserve judgement. It just TOO obvious.

I mean consider the source...... WASHINGTON media ain't been eaxactrly real factual lately.

I mean.....how do the president and sec state and nat sec discuss ISIS or Syria with the Russian sec State and ambassador..... without discussing classified information?

Fwiw the Russian ambassador is GENERALLY the spy master for whatever country they are in. Spying is the Russian national pastime.

it an old fashioned way of international relations used to be called diplomacy.

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It appears that Mc lied.
 

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Anybody forget that the Intel community was hacked last year............. I doubt that there is much the Pres. could tell the Ruskies that they don't already have or know on their own. Especially in syria..... they after all have real humint in theater...... we don't do that so much anymore........

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Anybody forget that the Intel community was hacked last year............. I doubt that there is much the Pres. could tell the Ruskies that they don't already have or know on their own. Especially in syria..... they after all have real humint in theater...... we don't do that so much anymore........

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It's worse than that. I just watched a reporter on CNN say that CNN had the so-called information a couple months ago that Trump "shared" but they were asked not to print it.

Must be a huge fucking secret for CNN to have it, LOL. We better impeach Trump for releasing information the media already has..............:cry:
 

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the DNC is becoming not only an international embarassment.. they are showing themselves to be a domestic terrorist orginization...a group that refuses to recognize legal elections, but is more concerned with destroying any candidate chosen by legal elections than they ate in protecting the global elite....unemployment, the mexican invasion.terrorisim,education, infrastructure, the wealth gap....the democrats have no time or energy to work toward solving these problems..rather they are only concerned with one issue...overturning a legal election. and getting control over ballot boxes.
 

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the DNC is becoming not only an international embarassment.. they are showing themselves to be a domestic terrorist orginization...a group that refuses to recognize legal elections, but is more concerned with destroying any candidate chosen by legal elections than they ate in protecting the global elite....unemployment, the mexican invasion.terrorisim,education, infrastructure, the wealth gap....the democrats have no time or energy to work toward solving these problems..rather they are only concerned with one issue...overturning a legal election. and getting control over ballot boxes.

The establishment is sending a message that no one outside the club ever try to get in again . They are showing they own the press they own the house and senate they own the show . Nobody outside will try again after what they put Trump through. He fucked everything up by winning it wasn't the plan now they need him out before he blows the scam . I believe he won't make 4 years .


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The establishment is sending a message that no one outside the club ever try to get in again . They are showing they own the press they own the house and senate they own the show . Nobody outside will try again after what they put Trump through. He fucked everything up by winning it wasn't the plan now they need him out before he blows the scam . I believe he won't make 4 years .


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Trump didn't fuckup... the Establishment did everything they could to get him as the GOP candidate..... They screwed up by running Hillary instead of Bernie. Of course they couldn't go with Bernie be as they hate him more than they do Trump.

No the Establishment fuckedup. That's why you have BOTH sides and most of the government against Trump.
He is exposing the corruption.

In politics the Guilty scream the loudest.


There's a reason our legal system is based on innocent till PROVED guilty.

It's harder if not impossible to prove innocence. All it take to establish possible guilt is an accusation.

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and who is leading the Fake news chant now?
The Tweeter in Chief?
And his loyal minions?
Who's lighting fires in the streets..

Purely based on this MSM tantrum Proves Hillary will be going to jail along with many connected to her and probably comey....

I mean at least Trump is legally within his right to RELEASE any intelligence info anytime he wants.......

Trump may have to go all air traffic control on the Intel community.



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Who's lighting fires in the streets..

Purely based on this MSM tantrum Proves Hillary will be going to jail along with many connected to her and probably comey....

I mean at least Trump is legally within his right to RELEASE any intelligence info anytime he wants.......

Trump may have to go all air traffic control on the Intel community.



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ohh he left out diversion as a tactic for the guilty.
 

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DNC staffer sent 40 k emails to Wikileaks's before he was murdered (random act of course) So I guess the DNC had Russians in it ?


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Trump didn't fuckup... the Establishment did everything they could to get him as the GOP candidate..... They screwed up by running Hillary instead of Bernie. Of course they couldn't go with Bernie be as they hate him more than they do Trump.

No the Establishment fuckedup. That's why you have BOTH sides and most of the government against Trump.
He is exposing the corruption.

In politics the Guilty scream the loudest.


There's a reason our legal system is based on innocent till PROVED guilty.

It's harder if not impossible to prove innocence. All it take to establish possible guilt is an accusation.

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yeah, really at this point the media reminds me of the "Holy Inquisition" conducted by the Catholic Church..."You have been accussed of Heresy..You've been seen riding a broom through the sky...you have been seen fornicating with Satan..." the charges directed toward Trump are that ridiculous and idiotic. also the benchmark the media has chosen to prove Trumps guilt is....that if they burn him at the stake and he lives it means that he was telling the truth...and if he dies it proves he was guilty...of course that was 5 centuries ago, and one would think humanity and the masses gullability would have already evolved beyond mass hysteria and state sanctioned terrorisim of the population.
 
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