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I don't know what to say...we all have problems with Trump,...but we are living through something as dangerous and insane as the Stalinist trials right now...liberals are openly using violence as a political tool and the media pretends otherwise,the DNC and liberals are basiclly saying to the American people.."You have no rights to elections any longer,we decide who sits in the Whitehouse"...and a huge segment of the population are so fucking brain dead they don't see that every tool of power is being leveled to destroy a candidate that won a fair election.Rather they are like mindless zombies indulging in the The Russia fantasy is being used to cover up the DNC's assassination of Seth Miller,and who really cost Hillbillary the election...an honest man.

I'm honestly amazed at how many people are so caught up in the Matrix that they can't see how they are being led into outlandish and baseless hate manufactured by the depp state...like domesticated animals.

Tell me .....does this seem so far removed from what Orwell foresaw. Could this be any democrat controled city anywhere in America right now...

 
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Hey, Stone might be kidding..I've always suspected he's with the company..a double agent type..
He lives in my turf..
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When Trump hit Syria I started to think this entire election cycle right from Trunp (whose hotels were probably used as CIA Honeytraps for Pols & dignataries) running for office Alex Jones & all the Alt right fighting the media hype were CIA as well portraying, the Media as being so obviously biased slanted & propagandist that it was was meant to polarize America, raise passion of patriots that would be a problem to their plan to suspend democracy by identifying themselves on-line so they can avoid underground insurgency and to divert attention while they start a civil war to create anarchy, suspend Democracy, declare marshal law and impose world government.

How better to divert our attention & expose us than to engage us active minded in a constant drama & pit americans against each other while silently bringing in enough reinforcements to quell the rest.
 
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When Trump hit Syria I started to think this entire election cycle right from Trunp (whose hotels were probably used as CIA Honeytraps for Pols & dignataries) running for office Alex Jones & all the Alt right fighting the media hype were CIA as well portraying, the Media as being so obviously biased slanted & propagandist that it was was meant to polarize America, raise passion of patriots that would be a problem to their plan to suspend democracy by identifying themselves on-line so they can avoid underground insurgency and to divert attention while they start a civil war to create anarchy, suspend Democracy, declare marshal law and impose world government.

How better to divert our attention & expose us than to engage us active minded in a constant drama & pit americans against each other while silently bringing in enough reinforcements to quell the rest.
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Exactly. Alex Jones has been accused of being a Mossad agent (see Rense.com)
I actually know people who know Stone and have their doubts about his sincerity..
I do think Trump did hang out with Epstein and had teen sex, just like he left himself open for the video of him talking shit
about grabbing them by the pussy
there is probably video of him with teeny boppers.

What I've been saying..us having rumbles with Antifa fools and BLM is just what they want.
 
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Exactly. Alex Jones has been accused of being a Mossad agent (see Rense.com)
I actually know people who know Stone and have their doubts about his sincerity..
I do think Trump did hang out with Epstein and had teen sex, just like he left himself open for the video of him talking shit
about grabbing them by the pussy
there is probably video of him with teeny boppers.

What I've been saying..us having rumbles with Antifa fools and BLM is just what they want.
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yes and no..we should always fight anybody who wants to silence speech or criminalize thought.
 
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http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...rump-never-pressured-fbi-halt-investigations/
SMOKING GUN=> Comey Under Oath: Trump NEVER Pressured FBI to Halt Investigations “It’s Not Happened”
Former FBI Director James Comey testified under Senate oath May 3rd that the Trump administration had not pressured his agency to halt any investigation for political purposes.

Comey admitted that the FBI has always been free to operate without political interference—flying in the face of Democrats’ paranoid delusions about Russia and President Donald J. Trump, and exposing for what it is a new political witch hunt Wednesday by enemies within the president’s own Justice Department.

Videotaped testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee blows apart the phony narrative New York Times reporter Michael Schmidt wove on Tuesday, which resulted in Mueller’s appointment. Schmidt’s only sources were anonymous. They claimed that on Feb. 14th, the day after National Security Adviser Michael Flynn resigned, Trump had asked Comey to end an investigation into Flynn’s connections to Russia.

Schmidt’s allegations that Trump attempted to obstruct justice hinged on the sources’ accounts of a memo authored the same day. Schmidt, a Democrat party lackey, admitted he hasn’t even seen the document—dated nearly three months before Comey’s testimony that totally contradicts it.

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Here are 40 outrageous facts that most people are clueless about.
1. The IRS is not a U.S. Government Agency. It is an Agency of the IMF. (Diversified Metal Products v. IRS et al. CV-93-405E-EJE U.S.D.C.D.I., Public Law 94-564, Senate Report 94-1148 pg. 5967, Reorganization Plan No. 26, Public Law 102-391.)
2. The IMF is an Agency of the UN. (Blacks Law Dictionary 6th Ed. Pg. 816)
3. The U.S. Has not had a Treasury since 1921. (41 Stat. Ch.214 pg. 654)
4. The U.S. Treasury is now the IMF. (Presidential Documents Volume 29-No.4 pg. 113, 22 U.S.C. 285-288)
5. The United States does not have any employees because there is no longer a United States. No more reorganizations. After over The FCC, CIA, FBI, NASA and all of the other alphabet gangs were never part of the United States government. Even though the "US Government" held shares of stock in the various Agencies. (U.S. V. Strang , 254 US 491, Lewis v. US, 680 F.2d, 1239)200 years of operating under bankruptcy its finally over. (Executive Order 12803) Do not personate one of the creditors or share holders or you will go to Prison.18 U.S.C. 914
6. The FCC, CIA, FBI, NASA and all of the other alphabet gangs were never part of the United States government. Even though the “US Government” held shares of stock in the various Agencies. (U.S. V. Strang , 254 US 491, Lewis v. US, 680 F.2d, 1239)
7. Social Security Numbers are issued by the UN through the IMF. The Application for a Social Security Number is the SS5 form. The Department of the Treasury (IMF) issues the SS5 not the Social Security Administration. The new SS5 forms do not state who or what publishes them, the earlier SS5 forms state that they are Department of the Treasury forms. You can get a copy of the SS5 you filled out by sending form SSA-L996 to the SS Administration. (20 CFR chapter 111, subpart B 42 2.103 (b) (2) (2) Read the cites above)
8. There are no Judicial courts in America and there has not been since 1789. Judges do not enforce Statutes and Codes. Executive Administrators enforce Statutes and Codes. (FRC v. GE 281 US 464, Keller v. PE 261 US 428, 1 Stat. 138-178)
9. There have not been any Judges in America since 1789. There have just been Administrators. (FRC v. GE 281 US 464, Keller v. PE 261 US 428 1Stat. 138-178)
10. According to the GATT you must have a Social Security number. House Report (103-826)
11. We have One World Government, One World Law and a One World Monetary System.
12. The UN is a One World Super Government.
13. No one on this planet has ever been free. This planet is a Slave Colony. There has always been a One World Government. It is just that now it is much better organized and has changed its name as of 1945 to the United Nations.
14. New York City is defined in the Federal Regulations as the United Nations. Rudolph Gulliani stated on C-Span that “New York City was the capital of the World” and he was correct. (20 CFR chapter 111, subpart B 422.103 (b) (2) (2)
15. Social Security is not insurance or a contract, nor is there a Trust Fund. (Helvering v. Davis 301 US 619, Steward Co. V. Davis 301 US 548.)
16. Your Social Security check comes directly from the IMF which is an Agency of the UN. (Look at it if you receive one. It should have written on the top left United States Treasury.)
17. You own no property, slaves can’t own property. Read the Deed to the property that you think is yours. You are listed as a Tenant. (Senate Document 43, 73rd Congress 1st Session)
The Revolutionary War was a fraud.18. The most powerful court in America is not the United States Supreme Court but, the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania. (42 Pa.C.S.A. 502)
19. The Revolutionary War was a fraud. See (22, 23 and 24)
20. The King of England financially backed both sides of the Revolutionary The King of England financially backed both sides of the Revolutionary war. (Treaty at Versailles July 16, 1782, Treaty of Peace 8 Stat 80)war. (Treaty at Versailles July 16, 1782, Treaty of Peace 8 Stat 80)
…and as history repeats itself, Prescott Bush, as history repeats itself, Prescott Bush, father of George HW Bush and grandfather of George W. Bush, funded both sides of World War II. The Bush family have been traitors to the American citizens for decades. father of George HW Bush and grandfather of George W. Bush, funded both sides of World War II. The Bush family have been traitors to the American citizens for decades.
“Sarah, if the American people had ever known the truth about what we Bushes have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched.”
George Bush Senior speaking in an interview with Sarah McClendon in December 1992
21. You can not use the Constitution to defend yourself because you are not a party to it. (Padelford Fay & Co. v. The Mayor and Alderman of The City of Savannah 14 Georgia 438, 520)
22. America is a British Colony. (THE UNITED STATES IS A CORPORATION, NOT A LAND MASS AND IT EXISTED BEFORE THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR AND THE BRITISH TROOPS DID NOT LEAVE UNTIL 1796.) Respublica v. Sweers 1 Dallas 43, Treaty of Commerce 8 Stat 116, TheBritain is owned by the Vatican.Society for Propagating the Gospel, &c. V. New Haven 8 Wheat 464, Treaty of Peace 8 Stat 80, IRS Publication 6209, Articles of Association October 20, 1774.)
23. Britain is owned by the Vatican. (Treaty of 1213)
24. The Pope can abolish any law in the United States. (Elements of Ecclesiastical Law Vol.1 A 1040 form is for tribute paid to Britain. (IRS Publication 620953-54)
25. A 1040 form is for tribute paid to Britain. (IRS Publication 6209)
26. The Pope claims to own the entire planet through the laws of conquest and discovery. (Papal Bulls of 1455 and 1493)
27. The Pope has ordered the genocide and enslavement of millions of people.(Papal Bulls of 1455 and 1493)
28. The Pope’s laws are obligatory on everyone. (Bened. XIV., De Syn. Dioec, lib, ix., c. vii., n. 4. Prati, 1844)(Syllabus, prop 28, 29, 44)
29. We are slaves and own absolutely nothing not even what we think are our children. (Tillman v. Roberts 108 So. 62, Van Koten v. Van Koten 154 N.E. 146, Senate Document 43 & 73rd Congress 1st Session, Wynehammer v. People 13 N.Y. REP 378, 481)
30. Military Dictator George Washington divided the States (Estates) into Districts. (Messages and papers of the Presidents Vo 1, " The People" does not include you and me. pg 99. Websters 1828 dictionary for definition of Estate.)
31. ” The People” does not include you and me. (Barron v. Mayor & City Council of Baltimore. 32 U.S. 243)
32. The United States Government was not founded upon Christianity. (Treaty of Tripoli 8 Stat 154.)
33. It is not the duty of the police to protect you. Their job is to protect the Corporation and arrest code breakers. Sapp v. Tallahasee, 348 So. 2nd. 363, Reiff v. City of Philadelphia, 477 F.Supp. 1262, Lynch v. N.C. Dept of Justice 376 S.E. 2nd. 247.
34. Everything in the “United States” is For Sale: roads, bridges, schools, hospitals, water, prisons airports etc. I wonder who bought Klamath lake. Did anyone take the time to check? (Executive Order 12803)
35. We are Human capital. (Executive Order 13037)
36. The UN has financed the operations of the United States government for over 50 years and now owns every man, women and child in America. The UN also holds all of the Land in America in Fee Simple.
37. The good news is we don’t have to fulfill “our” fictitious obligations. You can discharge a fictitious obligation with another’s fictitious obligation.
38. The depression and World War II were a total farce. The United States and various other companies were making loans to others all over the World during the Depression. The building of Germanys infrastructure in the 1930’s including the Railroads was financed by the United States. That way those who call themselves “Kings,” “Prime Ministers,” and “Furor.”etc could sit back and play a game of chess using real people. Think of all of the Americans, Germans etc. who gave their lives thinking they were defending their Countries which didn’t even exist. The millions of innocent people who died for nothing. Isn’t it obvious why Switzerland is never involved in these fiascoes? That is where the “Bank of International Settlements”is located.Wars are manufactured to keep your eye off the ball. You have to have an enemy to keep the illusion of “Government” in place.
39. The “United States” did not declare Independence from Great Britian or King George.
40. The etymology of government means to control the mind. From Latinised Greek gubernatio “management, government”, from Ancient Greek κυβερνισμός, κυβέρνησις (kybernismos, kybernesis) “steering, pilotage, guiding”, from κυβερνάω (kybernao) “to steer, to drive, to guide, to act as a pilot” plus Latin mente “mind”
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You can grab your musket and go be our first martyr for free speech
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Sure, why not....live free or die...I was married to a girl once whose grandfather fought in the Warsaw ghetto ..you could say it was a vain glorious and futile gesture,...he was eventually captured by the Germans, but he escaped,and then.......went into Spain to fight them again....I'm sure alot of people told him the wiser thing to do was not fight, those people probally died in the camps..he died free... fighting in Spain...Besides I think Americans won't tolerate being told what they can and cannot say, and what they can and cannot think.I think they can figure a more effective resistance than violence.
Trying to judge what is and is not a winable battle is foolish ...History is replete with many examples of a small band of hare brain fools toppeling an unconquerable giants.
 
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Sure, why not....live free or die...I was married to a girl once whose grandfather fought in the Warsaw ghetto ..you could say it was a vain glorious and futile gesture,...he was eventually captured by the Germans, but he escaped,and then.......went into Spain to fight them again....I'm sure alot of people told him the wiser thing to do was not fight, those people probally died in the camps..he died free... fighting in Spain.
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A glorious death indeed!
You can join the likes of LaVoy Finicum.

As I've stated here before my father and grandfather paid their own way back to France
to fight Le Bosch...a lot of good that did France now...
I was married to a girl once whose father was a Lieutenant Colonel in the Army during WWII.
The Colonel's duty was managing a laundry..real hero
 
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A glorious death indeed!
You can join the likes of LaVoy Finicum.

As I've stated here before my father and grandfather paid their own way back to France
to fight Le Bosch...a lot of good that did France now...
I was married to a girl once whose father was a Lieutenant Colonel in the Army during WWII.
The Colonel's duty was managing a laundry..real hero
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as Ghandi said..."what you do may be of no importance, but it is vitally important that you do it."
 
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Yea but Mueller is knee deep in it
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He certainly is just as bad as Merrick Garland, who was deputy DA in Oklahoma City bombing investigation. Almost 3,000 Americans on 9-11 deserved justice & Muellar spat on their memory. I wouldn't trust anything that traitor investigated & it's obvious to me this Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein is setting Trump up at every turn.
 
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as Ghandi said..."what you do may be of no importance, but it is vitally important that you do it."
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I'm with Pulse. I'd rather die trying to avert the takeover rather than sit back & join the resistance later. These people think the cops & military are going to kill free Americans fighting for freedom in order to protect them during their coup. They will be in for a rude awakening.

Mc Master & Maddis are moving troops abroad wholesale but they can't move all of them. I don't think it would take a lot to get the military to do the right thing unless they have been given the same cocktail they gave to these college kids showing up in the streets. Boys in Blue will know right side too.
 
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I think there may be more effective ways to fight than violence, but really when you look at history most of the time History has been decided in battles, not in negotiations ,not by diplomats,...now that may speak to the stupidity of the human race it may speak to our need to evolve,but that is where we are at...I think resistance movments are great I think sometimes they are the best strategy..I mean I'm part Irish and Part American Indian, and guerilla resistance movments are effective. I'm not banging a drum to take up arms, I do think that there are more effective means than violence, but I can not discount History...alot of the time's these things happen organiclly some insignificant action just becomes the straw that breaks the camels back and before people have thought it out they are suddenly in the midst of an uprising. throughout history common ordinary men have accomplished extraordinary things...things they did not want to do things they wanted to avoid things they never thought they were capable of. As for the Futility...Freedom and Human consiousness is a battle that is never won..it is a battle that each generation has to fight. some people would suggest War itself is nothing more than the external manifestation of the Spiritual battle of the collective consiouness, that war occurs because so many people refuse to enter into their own spiritual battle toward enlightenment...but those people we are discounted as crazy....



"Speak out, you got to speak out against
The madness, you got to speak your mind,
If you dare."------Crosby Stills,Nash.
 
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as Ghandi said..."what you do may be of no importance, but it is vitally important that you do it."
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Buddha said the all is nothingness but he liked sitting under the Bodhi tree just hanging out.

"Life is really simple but we insist on making it complicated" - Confucius

The people starve because those above them eat too much tax-grain.
That is the only reason why they starve.
- Laozi (Lao Tzu)
 
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Buddha said the all is nothingness but he liked sitting under the Bodhi tree just hanging out.

"Life is really simple but we insist on making it complicated" - Confucius

The people starve because those above them eat too much tax-grain.
That is the only reason why they starve.
- Laozi (Lao Tzu)
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One of my favorite writers who spent a good bit of time in a Japanese prisoner of war camp once said...You are a child of eternity, and a child of your time, you can not just choose to copt out of the events of the reality you are faced with because you helped create them..
 
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but really when you look at history most of the time History has been decided in battles, not in negotiations ,not by diplomats,
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Aw man!
Seriously? Those battles are sacrifices to the god of evil..the real fighting is done in smoke filled rooms
by fatcats and their bureaucratic minions.
History is usually decided before it even happens.
 
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Aw man!
Seriously? Those battles are sacrifices to the god of evil..the real fighting is done in smoke filled rooms
by fatcats and their bureaucratic minions.
History is usually decided before it even happens.
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yeah there's alot of truth there, but it is not the whole story...sometimes the proles rear their ugly heads and throw a monkey wrench into the best laid plans....alot of tyrannts have found that out the hard way.History can change on a fucking dime....I mean seriously whoever thought an entire economy would revolve around a friggin tulip bulb.

I think the elite have realized they have to brainwash humanity, they have to rewrite our History you can see them doing it her in the US big time...they have to control our minds ..force won't work as well as mind control.I think that is where they are focusing their attention and resources. rewriting history and mind control. Hell Eric Holder came right out and said we had to brainwash people, and the masses didn't bat an eye.
 
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yeah there's alot of truth there, but it is not the whole story...sometimes the proles rear their ugly heads and throw a monkey wrench into the best laid plans....alot of tyrannts have found that out the hard way.History can change on a fucking dime....I mean seriously whoever thought an entire economy would revolve around a friggin tulip bulb.

I think the elite have realized they have to brainwash humanity, they have to rewrite our History you can see them doing it her in the US big time...they have to control our minds ..force won't work as well as mind control.I think that is where they are focusing their attention and resources. rewriting history and mind control. Hell Eric Holder came right out and said we had to brainwash people, and the masses didn't bat an eye.
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This is a totally serious reply.

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What I can't believe is that these MSM newsroom deepstate cia propaganda officers can't be identified & removed to free the press from the narrative unless they are relying solely on the DNC to coordinate their efforts.
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Dig deeper, Mr Naive...it's ALL predetermined bullshit
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But cleaning up the Deep State IC community would go a long way toward saving a lot of unnecessary loss of life & generally extremely expensive bull.
 
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What I can't believe is that these MSM newsroom deepstate cia propaganda officers can't be identified & removed to free the press from the narrative unless they are relying solely on the DNC to coordinate their efforts.

But cleaning up the Deep State IC community would go a long way toward saving a lot of unnecessary loss of life & generally extremely expensive bull.
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Yup, except that there are so many people either on the take
or dependent on their masters for a paycheck who you gonna get rid of?

Ok, the 2nd link above, the 4chan org, that's where I read the first FBI
guy that came out to testify back when the investigation into the CF was in the news.
What he said was that damn near EVERYBODY in DC, including Donald Trump
was involved in or with the CF corruption in one way or another.
While he said that Trump's involvement was minimal and a matter of getting some buildings built, his involvement
made him aware of just how corrupt the system is..and who is on the take.
The Fed said that if everybody connected to the CF was prosecuted
DC would basically be an empty town.

Those CIA guys have been in place for years, possibly even since college when they got recruited.
I well remember the FBI agent (s)trying to intimidate me then recruit me to be a snitch when I was the editor of my college newsrag.
 
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Dig deeper, Mr Naive...it's ALL predetermined bullshit
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You've become quite the defeatist.

No, nothing is predetermined. History is full of examples of oppressive ever expanding governments/leaders that have risen and fallen. From third worlders to Empire. It's a simple cycle. The US(and western alliances, effectively a rather large empire) is just the latest example.

This time is no different than any other.

Thomas Jefferson understood the cycle quite well;

"the people can not be all, & always, well informed. the part which is wrong [. . .] will be discontented in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. if they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. we have had 13. states independant 11. years. there has been one rebellion. that comes to one rebellion in a century & a half for each state. what country before ever existed a century & half without a rebellion? & what country can preserve it’s liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? let them take arms. the remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon & pacify them. what signify a few lives lost in a century or two? the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. it is it’s natural manure."

The people "in smoke filled rooms" exist, that's true. But they ain't fucking gods. They're just men. They are not all knowing. Like the men in smoked filled rooms before them, they will fall. It's just takes a really long time for the cycle to complete. Generations. It has to start some time and it looks to me like it's time for my generation to get the end of this cycle going. It's already started but it's just beginning.
 
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Jefferson did not have the media controlling the masses.
People were mostly actually independent thinkers back then.

and I am not just speaking about the nooze media either.

 
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