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Which US Presidential candidate will you be voting for?


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HazyShades

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Yeah, yeah..we get your point Haze, and I'm not disagreeing with it..civil unrest will be used as an excuse to instigate the NCAA and declare martial law,but tell me....didn't we just get through with 8 years of de facto martial law under Obama?
We had a stupid meat head with good looks who...had a media that were not only uncritical of any move he made regardless of how evil or illegal it was, but were actual cheerleaders for said meat head....we had a strawman of an opposition party the GOP who were totally complacent to the agenda ,didn't raise a single issue against the agenda, the only pushback Obama recieved was not from the GOP but from citizens organizing themselves into the Tea Party.We had massive corruption,stuffing the courts, and indeed every single branch of the goverment with leftist/globalist apperetchicks we had a country who in effect had disovled it's legislative branch and was run by executive orders being issued almost daily.We had a goverment funded program installed that daily pushed a program of thought control that villified the entire American experince, rewrote it's history like Orwell warned us would happen, and demonization of the entire white race. We had an almost Maoist mass reducation/cultural revolution going on.Just like Orwell envisioned the elite didn't NEED to issue martial law they were able to create a de facto martial law by outlawing dissent. and using the wealth and the power of the state to drown out or silence, or to actually pass laws like the fairness doctine, or so called hate speech laws that criminalized dissent. That made critical thought a hate crime...that is martial law Capiche?

Blah, blah, blah..you have no idea what martial law is like.
I've known people who lived in East Germany and know people who live in Venezuela.
If you think what we had with Obama was martial law you've been drinking.
In a state of martial law we would have mandatory curfews, food cards (just to be able to buy food)
and guys with machine guns on every corner demanding your papers.

What you've experienced are but the labor pains of a monster
 

pulsevape

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Blah, blah, blah..you have no idea what martial law is like.
I've known people who lived in East Germany and know people who live in Venezuela.
If you think what we had with Obama was martial law you've been drinking.
In a state of martial law we would have mandatory curfews, food cards (just to be able to buy food)
and guys with machine guns on every corner demanding your papers.

What you've experienced are but the labor pains of a monster
Oh well that makes me feel so much better we weren't actually in martial law we were just a cunt hair away from it..and headed straight for it....yeah great distinction. now can we get back to the how many angles can dance on the head of a pin discussion.who needs guys on every corner when you have the single largest domestic spy network ever created.
 

HazyShades

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Oh well that makes me feel so much better we weren't actually in martial law we were just a cunt hair away from it..and headed straight for it....yeah great distinction. now can we get back to the how many angles can dance on the head of a pin discussion.who needs guys on every corner when you have the single largest domestic spy network ever created.
yup, it should make you feel better 'cause it ain't the same.
 

HazyShades

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point out to me where I said he was my hero, or for that matter even alluded to such a thought.
Maybe after you show me where I've said all the words you insist on putting in my mouth that I've never said.

shit, I think you're a closet Zionist too.
 

pulsevape

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Maybe after you show me where I've said all the words you insist on putting in my mouth that I've never said.

shit, I think you're a closet Zionist too.
now I see why you spend so much time in rabbit holes......yes you got me... I'm a zionist spy, and I thought I had such good cover..oh my... what will they say back at mossad headquarters....all that money they spent on my training and cover story all gone up in smoke by an obscure peckerwood on a vaping forum woe is me....all that is left for me is to go back to my kibutz in shame.
 

Tpat591

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I have no doubt that Trump has Ties to CIA from setting up honeypots in hotels just like Epstein.

I have no doubt that he was a DNC plant to split the Republican party & discredit as many candidates as possible.

I have no doubt that the DNC actively worked with press to promote & advance DJT to be republican Candidate to ensure victory.

I have no doubt that DJT purposely would make inflammatory statements to sabotage his own poll numbers when his popularity had him doing too well.

I think the polls were regularly misreported in the MSM to fit the narrative & pollster companies figured it they are just gonna misreport them them why bother worrying about the accuracy & began just changing the numbers a little here & there to make it look good.

We all know Seth was the DNC leak to Wikileaks & Poedesta wanted an example made even if he wasn't guilty & the investigation was squashed. The previous Russia Hacking story was quickly renewed & Crowdstrike helped sell it to explain the leak as a second Russian hacker group.

I believe when the DNC calculated the fractional voting they needed to put Hillary in office was shift one vote from DJT to HRC for every 100 DJT votes cast to carry a majority of the 13 swing states & the Diebold/Dominion & ESS machines were set up that way, but the polls they were using were no longer actual polls & they simply miscalculated & fell short.

Suddenly DJT was PEOTUS & he after all is still DJT & will not play the game of the Deep State. I believed He saw an opportunity to make a real change, but still has to make certain ones think he is playing by the script, but impulsive with his temper getting in way of that. DJT doesn't want to die, but I thought he truly wants to actually make things better.

After the missile strike in Syria, I believed we were had & Trump was an elitist plant to take the blame for WW3, crash economy & the election went just the way they wanted.

I now believe he did a limited strike intended to cause minimal damage & show Deep State he was playing the script, just not as quickly as they would like while he bought time to counter attack the swamp. Justice & FBI has been a black hole accomplishing nothing & hampering Trump's honest attempts to DTS. Comey termination was a sign he is trying. Reaction from from forces arrayed against him has to tell you he has them all very worried. Think this Deputy AG Rosenstein is working against Trump with the Deep State to bring him down. Trump's gotta clean house or he is going down.

He might have a chance to survive If he actually told the sheeple what Washington DC pols & Deep State have actually done over the decades we would string them all up. More likely, most would think he is crazier than the MSM would have us believe.

This flap about sharing the laptop intelligence with Russia might have pissed off Israel but was encouraging that he is not a puppet of Netanyahu. He might have stopped Mossad from crashing another plane load of innocent people & that was right thing to do, even if they were Russians. Trump being another DC Pol completely beholden to Netanyahu has been my worse fear.

Agree Alex Jones is probably a disinfo officer for CIA. Often thought that CIA was whipping both sides of this political divide into a frenzy to set them against one another, start acivil war & topple USA, but I think Israel is fighting the globalist initiative to topple & emasculate the USA to form a world government because without the USA fighting its wars, paying for its existance & providing its weapons, Israel would cease to exist. Jones could easily be CIA w/ Israel pulling his strings.
 
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Julian Assange Rape Investigation Is Dropped in Sweden
I love this...Julian Assange has sex with two adult women who admit it was consensual, but in the midst of the act they somehow decided it wasn't...for this he is hounded for 5 years with threats of prison time...meanwhile
A syrian rapeugge rape two underage girls 13 and 14 and the same Swedish goverment sentences him to 2 months in jail....the message is clear..you cause problems for the ruling elite and we will hound you to the ends of the earth, but please if you are a muslim feel free to rape and terrorize ethnic swedish childeren.
 

Tpat591

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The Pieces are being put into place now.

US Navy moves second aircraft carrier near North Korea

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/18/politics/uss-ronald-reagan-duel-carrier-training-korea/
(departed for North Korea to conduct joint exercises w/ Vinson)
Reagan Carrier Strike Group

USS Nimitz completes final evaluation drill, ready for deployment
http://navaltoday.com/2017/04/25/uss-nimitz-completes-final-evaluation-drill-ready-for-deployment/
(departing for North Korea to replace Vinson)
Nimitz Carrier Strike Group

USS Bataan Hosts U.S. Central Command
http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=100539

(currently off japan in south china sea conducting board, search & seize exercise)
Bataan Expeditionary Strike Group

BHR Leaders Hone Operational Stress Control Skills
http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=100220

(Sea of Japan conducting Stress control exercise)
Bonhomme Richard Expeditionary Strike Group

America ARG and 15th MEU successfully complete COMPTUEX
http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=100551

(preparing to undertake pre-deployment exercises off California coast)
America Expeditionary Strike Group

I'm Starting to think I found what they are distracting the press from. They will start it on NK & when that draws everyone's focus, Israel & Saudi will do Syria & Iran is my guess.
 
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HondaDavidson

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The Pieces are being put into place now.

US Navy moves second aircraft carrier near North Korea

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/18/politics/uss-ronald-reagan-duel-carrier-training-korea/
(departed for North Korea to conduct joint exercises w/ Vinson)

USS Nimitz completes final evaluation drill, ready for deployment
http://navaltoday.com/2017/04/25/uss-nimitz-completes-final-evaluation-drill-ready-for-deployment/
(departing for North Korea to replace Vinson)

USS Bataan (ARG) Hosts U.S. Central Command
http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=100539

(currently off japan in south china sea conducting board, search & seize exercise)
Soo... in other words. ... business as usual.

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Time

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I didn't say that.
What I have said, repeatedly, is that such a "fight" is a waste of time as far as actually protecting our right to free speech.
I've said that protecting our right to free speech is the job of our police force
who aren't doing their job..they have been told to stand down and let shit happen.
Given that order to stand down
any rumbles between Antifa and Patriots are likely to develop into tragic confrontations
with lethal consequences.
Now, pay attention 'cause this is the main point that I've been trying to make.
A situation of open warfare in the streets is precisely what the "Shadow Government"
wants and needs in order to legitimize establishing martial law.

Capiche?
Surely you've suspected that 911 was an inside job.
You know 911 was the rationale for the Department of Homeland Security, TSA, ETC.
That was the first phase. They've spent time and money since then to condition us to surrender our weapons.
Now they're itching to start phase 2.

That's what I'm saying. If anybody wants to rumble let them do their thing.
I just think it's a waste of MY time that plays right into the Elitist's trap.

I get what your saying but it does not add up to me, you or anyone else not being forced into liberal compliance. There are only two choices, do nothing and let them have their way or fight back.

Your argument is that things might get worse. Martial Law.

What difference does it make? It's gonna get worse anyway, just more slowly, if nothing is done. We already have the Patriot Act, unfettered spying on US citizens, no Rule of Law(Justice is now spelled Just Us), the indefinite detention of US citizens with no charge or trial, the police can take your cash on the side of the road with no charges against you and do. I don't think I need to keep going, you get it.

The difference between Martial Law and what we have now is getting smaller by the day while nothing is done. In fact, the jump to Martial Law might be just what the people need to wake them up. The boiled frogs don't know they're being cooked.

The Elitist Trap was the slow progressive march to Martial Law without calling it such. Do nothing and the march continues. Doing nothing now is the definition of kicking the can down the road. Being careful not to have Martial Law now only means my kids and Grandkids will have Martial Law under a different name like the sweet sounding "Patriot Act".

It sure would be easier, for NOW, to do nothing. But, it won't do a damn thing to stop the progressive march of the government.
 

Tpat591

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HazyShades

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It sure would be easier, for NOW, to do nothing. But, it won't do a damn thing to stop the progressive march of the government.
You guys keep confusing my urging to not do stupid shit with doing nothing.
At this point there are still laws in the US as guys like Jason Chaffetz and Trey Gowdy keep pointing out.
The rule of and application of law is the only thing that will save the union and stop the "progressive" take over..
The rule of law is what determines whether we have those rights like freedom of speech, which are guaranteed US
BY THE RULE of LAW.
Fighting in the streets isn't going to protect jack shit but it sure will give
law enforcement the right to bust our heads take away those rights.

If you really think the bullshit bureaucracy established by the Obama administration
is anything like martial law then you really need to get out of the ranch and go checkout
any totalitarian country so you can compare...

I'm not saying the US isn't on the way to total restriction of our freedom,
I'm saying we ain't there yet so why act like they want us to so that they can have a reason
to play their hand?
 

Tpat591

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You guys keep confusing my urging to not do stupid shit with doing nothing.
At this point there are still laws in the US as guys like Jason Chaffetz and Trey Gowdy keep pointing out.
The rule of and application of law is the only thing that will save the union and stop the "progressive" take over..
The rule of law is what determines whether we have those rights like freedom of speech, which are guaranteed US
BY THE RULE of LAW.
Fighting in the streets isn't going to protect jack shit but it sure will give
law enforcement the right to bust our heads take away those rights.

If you really think the bullshit bureaucracy established by the Obama administration
is anything like martial law then you really need to get out of the ranch and go checkout
any totalitarian country so you can compare...

I'm not saying the US isn't on the way to total restriction of our freedom,
I'm saying we ain't there yet so why act like they want us to so that they can have a reason
to play their hand?
Rule of law? The president cannot even issue a perfectly legal executive order that would be ok for any other President without an Obama Classmate judge in Hawaii striking it down.

The AGs office can't even get that overturned months later. They have proven that laws don't apply to them. That is when patriots need to remind them that isn't the way it works in more dramatic fashion.
 
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HondaDavidson

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Rule of law? The president cannot even issue a perfectly legal executive order that would be ok for any other President without a Hawaii Classmate judge in Hawaii striking it down.

The AGs office can't even get that overturned months later. They have proven that laws don't apply to them. That is when patriots need to remind them that isn't the way it works in more dramatic fashion.

Ah but in th is case the law has yet to rule.......

Re the EO we are still at the political level.... circus courts.

Rule of law won't be established till either congress or Scotus or both act.

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Tpat591

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In matters of national security an accelerated path to Supreme Court may be convened. They got the SCOTUS in place now so justice better get off their ass or patriots will.


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Time

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You guys keep confusing my urging to not do stupid shit with doing nothing.
At this point there are still laws in the US as guys like Jason Chaffetz and Trey Gowdy keep pointing out.
The rule of and application of law is the only thing that will save the union and stop the "progressive" take over..
The rule of law is what determines whether we have those rights like freedom of speech, which are guaranteed US
BY THE RULE of LAW.
Fighting in the streets isn't going to protect jack shit but it sure will give
law enforcement the right to bust our heads take away those rights.

If you really think the bullshit bureaucracy established by the Obama administration
is anything like martial law then you really need to get out of the ranch and go checkout
any totalitarian country so you can compare...

I'm not saying the US isn't on the way to total restriction of our freedom,
I'm saying we ain't there yet so why act like they want us to so that they can have a reason
to play their hand?

There is no Rule of Law. That's a long dead sentiment. I'm not sure where you get the idea that we still have any semblance of Rule of Law. I guess I should have kept writing the list that proves otherwise.

We're not there yet. Do you wait until you hit the car in front of you before you use the brake pedal? That's the problem. Things didn't get this way over night, it started before I was born and the generations before me have been waiting for it to get worse. I see no reason for me to keep waiting so my kids have to solve the fucking problem. It's bad enough the older people handed it down to me to fix. You older farts might be happy to pass the debt and the stifling government off to your kids but I'd rather handle it NOW. I kinda like my kids, I don't wanna pass off a fucked up government to them if I can help it.
 
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Tpat591

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We needed a Harvard Study to tell us that? I'm actuality impressed that any academic institution of higher learning would be so honest.

Next thing they are going to say there are only two sexes, high Muslim refugee immigrant communities may be linked to a higher incidence of rape & FGM & reverse discrimination against white people does exist.
 
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Tpat591

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Sorros is betting huge against the US Stock market. According to sources he currently has 2 plays from different organizations set up with a combined total of 764 Billion Dollars waiting to profit on it when the US dollar fails.
 

Tpat591

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So what do you guys think of Lieberman being put forth by Trump admin as FBI director?

Didn't they used to call McCain, Graham, & Lieberman the three Amigos years ago?
 

HondaDavidson

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So what do you guys think of Lieberman being put forth by Trump admin as FBI director?

Didn't they used to call McCain, Graham, & Lieberman the three Amigos years ago?
He's as good as any... Dems will still vote no if they pick the nominee.

Too old IMO...... too buddy buddy with McStain. Otherwise he's always been one of my favorite Dems.

I think they should go unknown... a judge AG, sheriff or police chief. Never get through vetting but would be interesting.


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Tpat591

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He's as good as any... Dems will still vote no if they pick the nominee.

Too old IMO...... too buddy buddy with McStain. Otherwise he's always been one of my favorite Dems.

I think they should go unknown... a judge AG, sheriff or police chief. Never get through vetting but would be interesting.


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They said Ray Kelley was Trump's first Choice.

I'd buy into that long before Lieberman. While Israel may be in charge of the FBI now, we ought to get away from continuing that trend.
 

HazyShades

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Reddit and 4chan Trump supporters set out to prove Seth Rich murder conspiracy
https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/reddit-the-donald-4chan-seth-rich-murder/

So either they made the thread private for their investigation or someone doesn't want them investigating.

That may be the reason why 4chan dot org was down for several hours recently. KEK

http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/126245278/seth-rich-investigation-general

In the meantime sombody "got to" reddit
reddit is more controlled/controllable than 4chan:
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/6c5mdb/breaking_4chan_found_a_possible_third_twitter/
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r/The_Donald
At 8:41pm ET on 5/19/2017, Reddit Admins removed three The_Donald mods without warning. This was punishment for our refusal to comply to a special set of rules that were imposed only on this subreddit and prevented our members from fully enjoying reddit or our mods from defending users against harassment.

We've temporarily gone dark in a show of strength against these unfair restrictions. Check back at 9 PM EST tomorrow for an announcement.

The moderators of this subreddit have set it to private. You must be a moderator or approved submitter to visit.
 

HazyShades

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That may be the reason why 4chan dot org was down for several hours recently. KEK

http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/126245278/seth-rich-investigation-general

In the meantime sombody "got to" reddit
reddit is more controlled/controllable than 4chan:
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/6c5mdb/breaking_4chan_found_a_possible_third_twitter/
You must be invited to visit this community
r/The_Donald
At 8:41pm ET on 5/19/2017, Reddit Admins removed three The_Donald mods without warning. This was punishment for our refusal to comply to a special set of rules that were imposed only on this subreddit and prevented our members from fully enjoying reddit or our mods from defending users against harassment.

We've temporarily gone dark in a show of strength against these unfair restrictions. Check back at 9 PM EST tomorrow for an announcement.

The moderators of this subreddit have set it to private. You must be a moderator or approved submitter to visit.


https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiLeaks/...ssion_of_evidence_in_seth_rich_investigation/
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/6c7x6m/seth_rich_was_the_dnc_leaker/
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/6c5mbd/we_now_have_confirmation_umegrimlock4_and/
https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiLeaks/comments/6c4q31/his_name_was_seth_rich/

Have phun :cool:
 

Tpat591

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Until they can get access to classified info they're gonna have a hard time getting anywhere. FOIA takes time & I'd be real surprised if it would be successful. We might have a shot if they can convince the Special Council to seriously pursue the Seth Rich angle, but I'd be surprised if that happened. Seth Deserves Justice & we all know where that trail leads.
 
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HazyShades

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Until they can get access to classified info they're gonna have a hard time getting anywhere. FOIA takes time & I'd be real surprised if it would be successful. We might have a shot if they can convince the Special Council to seriously pursue the Seth Rich angle, but I'd be surprised if that happened. Seth Deserves Justice & we all know where that trail leads.

Some of those guys do have classified access...or can access classified data
that's where those alleged fbi guys fist began posting.
In any case it gives the kids something to do
 
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