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Uhmmm...... the whole constitution is flawed....... the people who wrote it also knew it..... that's why they wrote it to be ammendable. That's why there are three branches of government rather than just 1.
Some if the FLAWS are there by design.... tgey exist soecifically, to make it hard to ammend.
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The point of the article isn't that the constitution is flawed but rather that
jurisprudence, the theory or philosophy of law, a legal system, or the interpretation of law (constitution) is flawed.
To wit, the article describes how citizens are no longer safe in their homes
or able to exercise their constitutional right to defend their homes with lethal force from invaders
who fail to identify themselves as police.
It cites as examples the case of one Angel Mendez who was badly wounded and lost a leg
when police, looking for another unrelated man entered his humble home and shot him up, and the case of
Andrew Scott who was mistakenly shot and killed by cops also looking for somebody else.
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There are humans envolved therefore there are flaws...... and prejudice envolved....
Imo the guy in you example should have put more effort into getting others and himself to safety and calling the cops rather than going after the threat themselves.... if he had retreated and waited for reinforcment... things might turn out different.
I am armed 24/7. Yet a gun fight is never my first option...... getting to safety and calling the cops always is. If i have to empty a couple clips to get that done.... so be it. Of course if I need that many rounds I might need more than the police.
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When the cops burst through your door in the middle of the night, unannounced, sans warrant
your first reaction is to go for your gun. The police now-a-days shoot first and ask questions
(like "are we in the right house?") later.
Retreat and wait for reinforcement!!!? Really now...not in the big city.
You say, "If i have to empty a couple clips to get that done.... so be it."
Yea, exactly. There are more cops than you, all armed, as soon as they see your piece you're dead meat
maybe before they see that you're armed.
Flaws and prejudice? Nah, the constitution and the letter of the law are quite clear and specific.
The problems are that we either have cop friendly judges who let them literally get away with murder
instead of holding them to the responsibility of a police officer's job, and/or we have
social justice warrior judges who let rapists go free on a whim.
That is what flawed jurisprudence means..judges that interpret the law according to their personal flaws and prejudice
rather than the very precise letter of the law. The law itself is blind.
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Armchair quarterbacking?
You weren't there. If it was armed invaders and the guy had held off as you say you would have and gotten himself killed I have no doubt you'd say he should have went after the threat.
It's nice to sit back having all the information after the fact and decide,,,,,,,,,,,IF he had done this or that............................
It's quite another to make a decision with the information the guy had at the time and in his shoes.
Armed 24/7?
I have many guns and a CC permit but seldom carry.
My dick is big enough
I have many guns and a CC permit but seldom carry.
My dick is big enough
Armchair quarterbacking?
You weren't there. If it was armed invaders and the guy had held off as you say you would have and gotten himself killed I have no doubt you'd say he should have went after the threat.
It's nice to sit back having all the information after the fact and decide,,,,,,,,,,,IF he had done this or that............................
It's quite another to make a decision with the information the guy had at the time and in his shoes.
The part that might confuse me if I let it
is that Honda would empty a couple of clips while he held off and called for reinforcements.
LOL...that too...No comment.
well most cops are just normal people trying to get through their work day in one piece...then there are the ones who are insane or just plain stupid...but I think the greater point is, without constitutional protections it would not be not too far fetched to envision a situatiuon where the goverments actually sought out lunatics to hire and create de facto death squads against "subversive" elements.
you know, one day I'd like to be an annonymus source....as it is..... nobody listens to me....but if I was an annonymus source I'd have the ear and unquestioning trust of the entire media.
I just read that rag, the Gaurdian has an "annonymus" source that says Nigel Farage is a "person of interest" in the russian myth.....I'm absolutely positive if Le Pen had not had the eletion in France stolen from her, that she too would have been a lap dog of the Russians..The Democrats and the Social Democrats of europe along with their masters in the media, have now decided that any election in the so called free world that does not comply with their wishes is a result of Putin.....so..we have a choice... between murdering totalitarian scum who control every apparatus of the state and have no problem assassinating political threats or we have Putin
I just read that rag, the Gaurdian has an "annonymus" source that says Nigel Farage is a "person of interest" in the russian myth.....I'm absolutely positive if Le Pen had not had the eletion in France stolen from her, that she too would have been a lap dog of the Russians..The Democrats and the Social Democrats of europe along with their masters in the media, have now decided that any election in the so called free world that does not comply with their wishes is a result of Putin.....so..we have a choice... between murdering totalitarian scum who control every apparatus of the state and have no problem assassinating political threats or we have Putin
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Who said I always carry a gun.. but then you don't have to carry a gun to be armed. I have dogs.Armed 24/7?
I have many guns and a CC permit but seldom carry.
My dick is big enough
Yes there are times to go after a intruder.... and yes there have been a couple supposed incidents of cops going into the wrong house and entering unannounced and with excessive force.....
But my first duty is to get my family to safety.
Remember those dogs..... they the offensive and assault weapon.... my guns are for defense. They go after the threat I protect the family.....
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Correct. Without constitutional protection governments would be free to do as they please and hire goons,
and basically that's the main point..we do have those constitutional safeguards
but when those are violated by goons and the victims sue for remedy
oftentimes the flawed jurisprudence misinterprets the law and the constitution
basically stripping the victim of their constitutional safeguards.
Bro, I used to train attack dogs, sometimes for cops.
If the cops ever show up at your home unannounced and your your offensive
attack weapon(s) did their job they would die.
In my neck of the woods even if the intruders weren't cops
the dogs would die..the bad guys here are better armed than the cops.
Obama proposed creating a supposed non military civilian police force with as much power as the cops.....I have no doubt that Obama was insane enough to do it..he would have created something just like the "collectivos" that his butt buddy Chavez did in Venezuela. After seeing the level of violence directed at Trump supporters during and after the election, the use of violence to squash political dissent on college campuses by the left ,and the DNC's silent nod to the violence, their unwillingness to denounce it. I have no doubt at all that Kilary would have doubled down on the use of violence against the people...we would have gone from a basket of irredeemable deplorables to a vast right wing conspiracy to overthrow the nation...the past and ongoing silince of the rank and file liberal about violence directed at libertarians and conservatives leads me to believe that they would have justified in their own minds the brutal and excessive use of the police ...it is only the constitution and the 2nd admendment that stayed Obama's an Kilary's hand.
Maybe I should get a gun for my wifes Wiener Dog to carry?
You might want to rethink your play book.
If you are with your family, "protecting" them, if the shooting starts you are with your family. That means they are also getting shot at. For hell's sake, go with your dogs if you're armed. Even most birds will try to draw predators away from their nest, not sit on it and draw the fox to the eggs.
You might want to rethink your play book.
If you are with your family, "protecting" them, if the shooting starts you are with your family. That means they are also getting shot at. For hell's sake, go with your dogs if you're armed. Even most birds will try to draw predators away from their nest, not sit on it and draw the fox to the eggs.
Yep nature is smarter than a lot of people..... if someone comes into my house in the middle of the night they are threatening my family! I in return will neutralize that threat. And thank God my state had it right and gave me the legal right years ago.
EU Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker: If Trump Promotes Brexit, We'll Break Up USA
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...trump_promotes_brexit_well_break_up_usa.html#!
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...trump_promotes_brexit_well_break_up_usa.html#!
the guy is either incrediblely deperate or he is an imbecile....or both...and the elitist are trying to create the narritive that Trump is unfit to be president..LOL...and this is what the EU and the global media thinks is presidental making ridicuous fantasies ....this stunt is just going to give the EU a major blackeye, and Trump a boost at home.
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They don't care any more, it's all crumbling. They will become twice as dangerous now. The only way to stop them is to arrest and or kill them before they can do more damage & confiscate their wealth under Rico statues to replace the trillions they have fleeced the American Public of. There is no gold left in Ft Knox. That is why Obama had to declare all those Acres a National Park - ie: He sold them the land as we had no collateral left.
Time for a lot more suicides by double taps to the back of the head.
Apparently she does not know how to quit while she still has a head.
The above should prove to be an interesting case.
Undoubtedly Ms Bloom will claim freedom of speech and artistic expression, but:
https://www.tjcenter.org/ArtOnTrial/threats.html
Violent and Threatening Imagery
In 1969, the U.S. Supreme Court determined that "true threats" of violence was among those categories of speech that are not protected by the First Amendment. What constitutes such a "true threat," however, is often difficult to distinguish from constitutionally protected speech. Although lower federal and state courts have adopted varying legal standards for making this determination, all rely heavily on the context in which the expression took place. Thus, expression that is reasonably understood to be an artistic statement is protected by the First Amendment even if it depicts disturbing acts of violence. On the other hand, expression that a speaker does not intend as a threat, but a listener reasonably interprets as such, may be punishable.
But...
https://www.aclu.org/issues/free-speech/artistic-expression
The U.S. Supreme Court has interpreted the First Amendment’s protection of speech to extend well beyond speeches and books to virtually anything that the human creative impulse can produce. The First Amendment embodies the belief that in a free and democratic society, individual adults must be free to decide for themselves what to read, write, paint, draw, compose, see, and hear.
Provocative and controversial art and in-your-face entertainment frequently test our commitment to this belief. Why oppose censorship when scenes of murder dominate video entertainment, when works of art can directly insult peoples’ religious beliefs, and when pornography abounds on the Internet? Why not let the majority’s morality and taste dictate what others can look at or listen to?
The answer is simple and timeless: A free society is based on an individual’s right to decide what art they want—or do not want—to see. Once you allow the government to censor one person, it has the power to censor you or something you like. The ACLU advocates for the principle that free expression for ourselves requires free expression for others.
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I frankly find the image so disgusting that I'm staying away from facebook until
the clickbaiters stop posting it
Yet Facebook, Twitter, Google & Youtube will not censor the image or apply warnings to it like they will many things posted by the right. Interesting double standard.
The double standards are everywhere. One kid or teen so much as says 'you're a doodie head' online and they get nailed for cyberbullying. There are groups all over the place preaching the horrors and ill effects of kids who are cyber bullied or bullied in general. Jennings singled out Trump's kid and after Barron was disturbed by the grotesque images courtesy that failed hag griffin, doubled down and made fun of him even further. A supposedly grown ass man targeting an 11yo and no one says a fucking thing. Hate Trump all you want, hell even target his grown kids if/when appropriate if they're contributing as special counsel or anything else. But seriously, not a word about bullying regarding Jennings comments? That's a special kind of pussy right there.
For a so called 'genius' that piece of shit isn't very bright. Waiting for someone to challenge his smart mouth face to face and let him show what a 'man' he is. I'll take 'body bags' for $300 Alex. Ooh, daily double. John Doe - ding ding ding - what is the name they use to refer to Jennings before he's identified?
For a so called 'genius' that piece of shit isn't very bright. Waiting for someone to challenge his smart mouth face to face and let him show what a 'man' he is. I'll take 'body bags' for $300 Alex. Ooh, daily double. John Doe - ding ding ding - what is the name they use to refer to Jennings before he's identified?
What the fuck do you think the dogs are for.... they are there to draw the threat away. To delay threat long enough for me to evacuate the family..... or get into position to fight.You might want to rethink your play book.
If you are with your family, "protecting" them, if the shooting starts you are with your family. That means they are also getting shot at. For hell's sake, go with your dogs if you're armed. Even most birds will try to draw predators away from their nest, not sit on it and draw the fox to the eggs.
I go running to the fight.. with the dogs... the family is unprotected. And the intruder will be at the advantage.
But then I'm a bit strange... I don't even lock the doors of my house.. unless I'm going to be gone over night. See I'm not concerned with the protection of my STUFF or PROPERTY.... only with protecting the family.... fight come after they are safe.
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Yeah eight years of Obama and his daughters were treated with kid gloves....imagine if hollywood and republicans made cheap shots aimed at them.....
Geez nobody can take a joke...
"by lunch"
There's a problem with that joke.
Private citizens have an expectation of privacy and using our images requires permission, a release.
But that is completely different for public figures, celebrities, and government employees.
You can photograph and video them w/o permission and publish the pics w/o a release
even if used to sell goods, but you're still liable for libel.
Target practice, same as my dogs.
The difference is, they shoot your dogs and keep coming. Takes about 3 seconds tops to shoot your dogs. But, while they shoot my dogs, I'm shooting them because I went with my dogs. You're waiting for the threat to get to your family to protect them, I'm protecting my family before the threat gets to them and I still have the dogs to help me do it. Your dogs are dead.
If I'm gonna have to have that fight, I'd rather do it while dogs are still alive to help and away from my family, not after the dogs are dead and my family is with me.
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