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Which US Presidential candidate will you be voting for?


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Tpat591

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Ya know what would be funny as hell?... If you were right... but nobody would listen because you're an asshole.

You and your turncoat buddy bannon are both obsolete. Jumping on the Trump-hate bandwagon...

Shouldn't you be over in the moonbat thread cromwell? Your Trump hating brothers are there. :poop:

LOL. Everybody already knows I'm an asshole. When it comes to politics, I've been an asshole years before this thread ever started.

You can believe that I'm and those like me are obsolete if you want. But you might want to take a look at the last few Presidential elections and a few Congressional/Senate elections. I didn't vote for Romney or McCain. How'd they do? I voted for Trump. How'd he do? You can see the Freedom Caucus Members put a wrench in GOPe politics. Those are the people I generally approve of and vote for.

The swamp includes the GOPe. It's not just libtards. If Trump consistantly sides with the GOPe swamp creatures as Romney and McStain do, I'll turn on him. As will those like me. There are enough of us that will not vote for a swamp creature wearing an R to make a difference and it doesn't matter if you believe it or not, because I'm an asshole. All you have to to do is watch and see. It's the actual vote that matters.
 
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hellcatrydr

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you were saying?????
It is irrelevant that border-jumping is 'trending'.
ICE is trending too.

Now... please respond to my post... specifically why you want to deport illegals over an unsecure (no wall) border.
I'm tryin to make sense of that...
 

hellcatrydr

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Bump for PV

Yer still wildly overreacting to minutiae though... plus yer exaggerating, 30 million???

Plus, INS IS doing Cali raids... The feds (Trump) DID get Kate Steinle's killer... Trump has added THOUSANDS to the Border Patrol!!!
And ALL of the "increased" ATTEMPTED border jumping is exactly that, ATTEMPTED.
...because most all of em are now getting caught.
...because Trump.

WHAT'S THE PROBLEM??? Trump is keeping every promise he ever made!
Holee crap, immigration???

Five THOUSAND new border agents :bliss: have been wildly successful at securing the border recently...
Your own statistical citation proves that imo. Your stats are based on captures and we're makin a LOT more of em.
So there is every reason to be confident that our border will be protected during the construction of the wall.
Then we won't need all those expensive agents anymore.


And the wall allows us to control our own destiny. WE get to have CONTROL over immigration into the US.
I don't wanna hear any lame arguments about 'what about when libs are in charge in the future?'... that was beneath you.

Dude... I've read yer stuff for 3 years and I am fleking stunned we're having this convo.
When did you fall off the wall? :) so to speak
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It is irrelevant that border-jumping is 'trending'.
ICE is trending too.

Now... please respond to my post... specifically why you want to deport illegals over an unsecure (no wall) border.
I'm tryin to make sense of that...
why are you going out of your way to ignore the obvious...of course it's relevant...the mexicans, and latin american watch our political scene to gauge whether or not it is safe to cross, they are like sharks, and when they smell blood in the water they swarm ...into America, and not only them but the marxist groups like La Raza, MECHA, the southeren poverty law center,and a host of other globalist front groups get the word out south of the border that it is a good time to cross.....when you see the scum going south then you know you are on the right track when you see them coming North you know you were betrayed...they are a gauge as to the commitment and the real effectiveness of our border security....somebody in the DNC has told them either get in now before Trump clamps down, or the DNC told them that Trump will not enforce the law..just look how Trump has couched the issue...a "Bill of Love"...love for who...love for what...a bunch of cretins whose first act on American soil is a crime, and demand to be given a free ride for their crimes.



.how many times do I have to say this....the fucking LAW is the wall .....enforce the fucking law and you don't need to spend ANY money on a wall...if an illegal goes to enroll his kid in school and is told NO, if he can't get a drivers license, he can't get a job..(and Trump refused to include E-verify in the discussion) if he can't get food stamps for his pregnant wife...if the anchor baby bullshit is repealed and she can't dump her kid on American soil to get a free ticket......then they WON'T come here in the first place...Trump can build all the walls he wants, and the next democrat president will tear it down or put a big ass door in your wall....this is all bullshit this is a tactic the Uniparty uses to stall for time to get in as many illegals as they can into the country..everyday thousands more enter.
 

hellcatrydr

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.how many times do I have to say this....the fucking LAW is the wall .....enforce the fucking law and you don't need to spend ANY money on a wall...if an illegal goes to enroll his kid in school and is told NO, if he can't get a drivers license, he can't get a job..(and Trump refused to include E-verify in the discussion) if he can't get food stamps for his pregnant wife...if the anchor baby bullshit is repealed and she can't dump her kid on American soil to get a free ticket......then they WON'T come here in the first place...Trump can build all the walls he wants, and the next democrat president will tear it down or put a big ass door in your wall....this is all bullshit this is a tactic the Uniparty uses to stall for time to get in as many illegals as they can into the country..everyday thousands more enter.

I agree with ya mostly ... except for that no-wall stuff. That's crazy talk... as is your implication that 'uniparty' Trump
is helping illegals get into the country... Did I read that right?

The e-verify thing... Hmmmm:mad:. I need to read up on his reasons for that.... before I score a point against him.

But yeah great... enforce the law... And we are doing a better job of that now. But we need the wall.
And you do sometimes exaggerate... wildly. :) I highly doubt everyday thousands more enter.
Don't fuck wit my wall dood... :cuss2:
 

HondaDavidson

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I agree with ya mostly ... except for that no-wall stuff. That's crazy talk... as is your implication that 'uniparty' Trump
is helping illegals get into the country... Did I read that right?

The e-verify thing... Hmmmm:mad:. I need to read up on his reasons for that.... before I score a point against him.

But yeah great... enforce the law... And we are doing a better job of that now. But we need the wall.
And you do sometimes exaggerate... wildly. :) I highly doubt everyday thousands more enter.
Don't fuck wit my wall dood... :cuss2:

The GOV claims 1000 CAUGHT at a single entry point entering per day............ I figure that means at LEAST 1000 enter a day , without getting caught. Not too mention drug or other crossings.
 

Tpat591

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This one is for PV & Time. Watch the whole thing for insight into just what Trump is actually doing with DACA & the Wall.

 
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Tpat591

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Interesting discussion on subject.


Imagine how much could be saved by eliminating this entirely. Lives, biodiversity, fresh water, crops drastically reducing toxic heavy metal exposure and dollars spent. People only see chemtrails when they are shaped like a giant cock & balls. Even then it never dawns on them what made the artwork possible.
 
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Time

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This one is for PV & Time. Watch the whole thing for insight into just what Trump is actually doing with DACA & the Wall.


I could only listen to 9 min of that. Those folks need a civics class.

But, they did mention today's FISA news and Trump's tweets are a perfect example of what I have been saying.

He tweets early about how FISA was used against him for his opponents political gain. Two hours later, after the establishment whispered in his ear, he tweets again in support of FISA.

Trump has been compromised.

“House votes on controversial FISA ACT today.” This is the act that may have been used, with the help of the discredited and phony Dossier, to so badly surveil and abuse the Trump Campaign by the previous administration and others?

Two hours later,

"With that being said, I have personally directed the fix to the unmasking process since taking office and today’s vote is about foreign surveillance of foreign bad guys on foreign land. We need it! Get smart!"

And before anyone says "Trump fixed it though!"

Trump can't fix it. If you have not learned from Trump dismantling of Obama's EO's, the next President can simply sign an EO to eliminate Trump's "fix".
 
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pulsevape

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This one is for PV & Time. Watch the whole thing for insight into just what Trump is actually doing with DACA & the Wall.

these folks are basing everything on the assumption that the republicans and democrats won't pass daca or any amnesty themselves...that they are somehow at odds with each other over the issue....that is a baseless assumption as far as I can see.
 

Time

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these folks are basing everything on the assumption that the republicans and democrats won't pass daca or any amnesty themselves...that they are somehow at odds with each other over the issue....that is a baseless assumption as far as I can see.

There was so many holes in their rhetoric, I didn't know where to start. 'Trump doesn't need funding for the wall, he's already building it? He can get funding from anywhere?' LOL. That made me laugh and I quit listening to the rest.

Trump is working on the wall, but the money was allocated by Congress years ago. It didn't come from "anywhere", it was already available for a wall. He certainly does need Congressional allocation to continue building the wall.

People forget pre-election points. It was pointed out that Congress has already funded some wall construction. And they allocated money for more border agents. It just was not spent because Obama didn't hire or build(execute as in Executive Branch). All Trump is doing is using the funding that Congress has already allocated.


Anyway, that's why I just said those people need a civics class.
 
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HondaDavidson

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I could only listen to 9 min of that. Those folks need a civics class.

But, they did mention today's FISA news and Trump's tweets are a perfect example of what I have been saying.

He tweets early about how FISA was used against him for his opponents political gain. Two hours later, after the establishment whispered in his ear, he tweets again in support of FISA.

Trump has been compromised.

“House votes on controversial FISA ACT today.” This is the act that may have been used, with the help of the discredited and phony Dossier, to so badly surveil and abuse the Trump Campaign by the previous administration and others?

Two hours later,

"With that being said, I have personally directed the fix to the unmasking process since taking office and today’s vote is about foreign surveillance of foreign bad guys on foreign land. We need it! Get smart!"

And before anyone says "Trump fixed it though!"

Trump can't fix it. If you have not learned from Trump dismantling of Obama's EO's, the next President can simply sign an EO to eliminate Trump's "fix".
I think that's the point... most of what Trump promised Requires action by congress to do what they BOTH SIDE have been saying they will do.

Yeah he can reverse EOs... But to keep his promises congress needs to give him bills to sign.... Not John Kelly.

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Time

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I think that's the point... most of what Trump promised Requires action by congress to do what they BOTH SIDE have been saying they will do.

Yeah he can reverse EOs... But to keep his promises congress needs to give him bills to sign.... Not John Kelly.

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True, except for DACA.

There is no action required by Congress to deport illegal immigrants, like he promised.

It does require Congress to give them amnesty, against his promise.
 

pulsevape

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I think that's the point... most of what Trump promised Requires action by congress to do what they BOTH SIDE have been saying they will do.

Yeah he can reverse EOs... But to keep his promises congress needs to give him bills to sign.... Not John Kelly.

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this is just a canard and a political excuse so Trump doesn't have to take responsibility for allowing the invasion to continue...there are 101 things could do to make illegal aliens lives in this country a living hell...the death of a thousand cuts still kills you....Trump could use the laws and beaucracy to make life very very hard on illgeals and rethink their home address...and all of those things are well within his rights......
 

Time

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this is just a canard and a political excuse so Trump doesn't have to take responsibility for allowing the invasion to continue...there are 101 things could do to make illegal aliens lives in this country a living hell...the death of a thousand cuts still kills you....Trump could use the laws and beaucracy to make life very very hard on illgeals and rethink their home address...and all of those things are well within his rights......

It's a slight of hand move. Trump doesn't have to lift a finger to deliver on his promise to deport. If Congress does not act, DACA goes away. If congress does act and Trump does not sign, DACA goes away.

And then it's a simple matter of either funding the wall or not. That is all that is in Congress hands.

Adding all the shit together is an attempt by Trump to muddy the water and only deliver part of the promise. Otherwise, he could just let DACA go away and rightly put the blame for the wall funding on Congress, where it belongs if they don't pass it.

Pussy ass Republican's let Obama walk all over them with Obamacare funding. He would not sign a funding bill without Obamacare funding. The punk ass Republican's always gave him the funding. Trump and the Republicans could do the same with the wall funding but they don't have the balls that Obama had.
 
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