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Well, I can't see how he ever gets out of said "quagmire", unless he can bring congress to heel and drain the damned swamp. He gets bad advice from the intrenched bureaucrats, and leaks from all over; he can't appoint outsiders; the MSM is all over him like stink-on-shit; he can't stop tweeting and he frankly gives the media far too much news day in & out. SURE, we like to hear from him - but since every comment is of intel-value he's got fornats and hirelings, elected and appointed all over him.

I hope we get the 4-more-years of GOOD NEWS, but I don't see how he can get anything really accomplished when he is fighting our own side harder and dirtier than overseas. Bring 'em all home and clean up this clusterfunk and it's treasonous cancer-cells. Let the mideast and europe deal with their own messes - I'm sure they'll invite china and russia right in.

It is amazing he has got as much accomplished as he has with all the opposition he had to face from both parties. I dont see him slowing up a bit. Actually, I think Trump is thriving on this fight.
 

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It is amazing he has got as much accomplished as he has with all the opposition he had to face from both parties. I dont see him slowing up a bit. Actually, I think Trump is thriving on this fight.
I'm glad the Ol' Guy is having a Good Time, but... The swamp is still infested - and growing, if the congress/antifa/sanctuary-city/ICE-raids and leaks shit is any indicator.

I never had any faith in "government" or "judicial system", and it's not improving with age.
 

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Who Survives The Iran Counter-Offensive?

"I give Trump a lot of credit here for not falling into the trap set for him. He now has to begin removing those responsible for this quagmire and I’m sure that will be on the docket when he meets with Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping next week at the G-20."

Im pretty sure when Trump seen that Nancy and Chuck was dancing in the parking lot after the briefing he knew something was up. I dont know if his admin is still swampy or not but he got the intel he needed not not fall into that trap.
 

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I'm glad the Ol' Guy is having a Good Time, but... The swamp is still infested - and growing, if the congress/antifa/sanctuary-city/ICE-raids and leaks shit is any indicator.

I never had any faith in "government" or "judicial system", and it's not improving with age.


Liberals are deeply entrenched in all parts of the government but I still believe with Mueller behind him indictments will roll. Barr been having free rein for what, a month now and Comey and Brennan and Clapper are making a LOT of noise these last few days. Something is going to happen soon.

I am wondering if this Iran crap is the accumulation of Kerry and Obama and the rest to derail Trump to stop Barr. As most theories, it might hold water lol
 

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Something is going to happen soon.
Is that Atomic Time, Cellular Time, Human Time, Geologic Time, or Galactic Time?

Cuz, I ain't getting any younger and the last two are popularly ignored today. So far, Barr and his sidekicks are still just headlines - I don't see any ohdarkhundred snatches on any network, and in fact, I see vastly more non-stories that are puffed into "whythehell did I even listen?" No, this "Real Soon Now" shit is getting extremely "old".

I am wondering if this Iran crap is the accumulation of Kerry and Obama and the rest to derail Trump to stop Barr.
I suspect they are involved - as they are in the EU as well as AU and NZ. Again: how much rope does it take to hang a trator? (Answer: a Garotte is cheaper, shorter, and only a wire or twine).
 

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Im pretty sure when Trump seen that Nancy and Chuck was dancing in the parking lot after the briefing he knew something was up. I dont know if his admin is still swampy or not but he got the intel he needed not not fall into that trap.
He's 10 steps ahead of these people operating on a level they can't hope to achieve. When he saw Chuck & Nancy dancing he just smiled to himself saying Hook, Line & Sinker.

His negotiations with Iran were in full swing Back when he & Kim signed the letter of intent deal at what most mistakenly thought was the first meeting. Trump makes nothing public until he is ready & the leaks he has now are all calculated to bait the Dems & the Press into going down the roads he wishes so he can use it against them later.
 
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Is that Atomic Time, Cellular Time, Human Time, Geologic Time, or Galactic Time?

Cuz, I ain't getting any younger and the last two are popularly ignored today. So far, Barr and his sidekicks are still just headlines - I don't see any ohdarkhundred snatches on any network, and in fact, I see vastly more non-stories that are puffed into "whythehell did I even listen?" No, this "Real Soon Now" shit is getting extremely "old".


I suspect they are involved - as they are in the EU as well as AU and NZ. Again: how much rope does it take to hang a trator? (Answer: a Garotte is cheaper, shorter, and only a wire or twine).


I know, everyone is on edge waiting but damn, Trumps hands was tied while Mueller was going on. Even a hint of anything and it would of been more accusations of obstructing. Barr has had what, 5 weeks maybe to do anything? Lets be realistic. We do know Comey, Brennan and Clapper been all very vocal so they know whats up and are squirming over whats coming. But it does take some time.
 

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I know, everyone is on edge waiting but damn, Trumps hands was tied while Mueller was going on. Even a hint of anything and it would of been more accusations of obstructing. Barr has had what, 5 weeks maybe to do anything? Lets be realistic. We do know Comey, Brennan and Clapper been all very vocal so they know whats up and are squirming over whats coming. But it does take some time.
Oh come on! I want Trump & co to be the real deal as much as anyone & am here clapping cymbals together at each development, but how long does it really take to find something to put these assholes away? Comey alone has admitted to at least 20 Federal Crimes on stage or in interviews. Everyone who signed that FISA warrant should have been arrested as soon as the fraud on the court was discovered & Weiner's laptop would have put HRC behind bars 10 times over 3 years ago. A first year paralegal could put these people behind bars.

The only possible reason I am open to accepting that any of them aren't locked the hell up is that they need time to clean the judicial system & get the dirty DOJ attorneys out & judges off the bench before they put them behind bars & if there is anything to the Q clock, that won't be until October. That has been what the whole Mueller Investigation was all about, creating situations & monitoring the guilty & hopping warrants across their network as they used their crooked network to rig the system. All the cases that arose from that created such a backlog of cases they need to get together so they will stick. I get that.

But lets not pretend that all this could just as easily be a narrative to keep us all from grabbing the torches & pitchforks & hanging them all from the nearest bridges. The only saving grace is it hasn't been dull.
 
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In that latter, specific case "shall not be infringed" is engraved in stone.
Uhm, that stone seems to be a bit soft and has not weathered well. As evidence on the federal level, I give you the NFA of 1934, the FFA of 1938, the GCA of 1968, the FOPA of 1986, and the Brady Act. That's not an exhaustive list, and on the state and local level, there are over 20,000 additional laws that all infringe.

The AG of NY will come for people's guns long before the Feds will.
In states like NY, NJ, CA, and so on, that's undoubtedly true. But there are other, more free states where that isn't the case at all.
 

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Just checked their page & Story came through @ 2:22pm, don't know why it takes so long to post it on their page.

BREAKING: Trump Says He Will Delay Deportations of Illegal Aliens For Two Weeks at the Request of Democrats


Said many times they was flakey.

Deportation is delayed but didnt hear anything about the raids being delayed? Trump just screwed the Democrats with this one. We ALL know they wont do shit and lose every bit of crying rights from it. The illegals also wont be expecting it for two more weeks which makes it safer for ICE.
 

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Said many times they was flakey.

Deportation is delayed but didnt hear anything about the raids being delayed? Trump just screwed the Democrats with this one. We ALL know they wont do shit and lose every bit of crying rights from it. The illegals also wont be expecting it for two more weeks which makes it safer for ICE.
Well if he doesn't start deportations now, he has already lost the election. What we got now, pushing 50,000,000 illegals in this country & this sellout asswipe is gonna play amnesty bullshit games? Might as well vote for Bernie.
 

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Oh come on! I want Trump & co to be the real deal as much as anyone & am here clapping cymbals together at each development, but how long does it really take to find something to put these assholes away? Comey alone has admitted to at least 20 Federal Crimes on stage or in interviews. Everyone who signed that FISA warrant should have been arrested as soon as the fraud on the court was discovered & Weiner's laptop would have put HRC behind bars 10 times over 3 years ago. A first year paralegal could put these people behind bars.

The only possible reason I am open to accepting that any of them aren't locked the hell up is that they need time to clean the judicial system & get the dirty DOJ attorneys out & judges off the bench before they put them behind bars & if there is anything to the Q clock, that won't be until October. That has been what the whole Mueller Investigation was all about, creating situations & monitoring the guilty & hopping warrants across their network as they used their crooked network to rig the system. All the cases that arose from that created such a backlog of cases they need to get together so they will stick. I get that.

But lets not pretend that all this could just as easily be a narrative to keep us all from grabbing the torches & pitchforks & hanging them all from the nearest bridges. The only saving grace is it hasn't been dull.
Hey, I'm fine with deep-diving down the chain. It worked with the mob. Meanwhile, back at the ranch... We have Kerry and others that can be busily fighting the Logan Act from a cell next to Manafort, this allows you to trace their calls and investigate further issues while they fight off the clear and obvious issue. We.Are.Tired.Of.Promises-Lock.'em.UP!
 

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a narrative to keep us all from grabbing the torches & pitchforks & hanging them all from the nearest bridges.

Frankly, I'd just as soon the torches/pitchforks/rope - I'm tired of following the crap news and kangaroo court crap. I've a buddy that preaches peace and patience - he has kids.. I don't have kids and my patience is nearly at its end. Frankly, even if you have kids - do you want them to inherit this fookin' clown-show?
 

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Hey, I'm fine with deep-diving down the chain. It worked with the mob. Meanwhile, back at the ranch... We have Kerry and others that can be busily fighting the Logan Act from a cell next to Manafort, this allows you to trace their calls and investigate further issues while they fight off the clear and obvious issue. We.Are.Tired.Of.Promises-Lock.'em.UP!
Couldn't agree more, but I get that had any of the above been arrested 2.5years ago they would be out in an hour & all charges dismissed by a dirty judge in a week on a technicality, lost evidence & every witness shooting themselves twice in the back of the head. Knew it would take time to do it right.

The question is why the hell aren't we there yet? Lest I forget Horowitz's report on the Clinton Foundation came out & we had a dozen redacted names around the world suddenly suicided just a week or so ago.
 
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Frankly, I'd just as soon the torches/pitchforks/rope - I'm tired of following the crap news and kangaroo court crap. I've a buddy that preaches peace and patience - he has kids.. I don't have kids and my patience is nearly at its end. Frankly, even if you have kids - do you want them to inherit this fookin' clown-show?
right with ya!
 

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What ya get when you continuously vote Democrat? Blight and more blight LOL

Just think, at one time California had the strongest middle class in the nation. Nothing but prosperity. That time was when Ronald Reagan was Governor of California.
 

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  • #6: hogwash. There are far, far too many laws to avoid in any way, every day. Local, county, City, State, and Federal. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy too many.
  • #9: No, I think most of us grew up tolerating CHRISTmas, and THANKSGIVING, and so on - we are tired of the goddamned PC and pro-muslim and offended-snowflakes. Assimilate or gtfo. Stop kowtowing to fornats that never intended to assimilate - and I count the LQQRSTUVQXY crowd too - don't like us? gtfo.
  • #11: I got news for y'all - NOT "all human life is precious".. Some folks NEED to die, others WANT to die. I think you'll find mostly that taxpayers are tired of supporting these folks forever, in or out of prison.
  • #12: this is a huge one, and frankly - we need a class-action suit in front of SCOTUS that they can't blow the hell off. Infringement is infringement - the BOR was not supposed to be MUTABLE at all. Ever. Either roll it back and get sane, or look for the pitchforks.
  • "DEMOCRAT LEADERS ARE NO LONGER STATESMEN" Look, man.. These assholes are self-aggrandizing thieves. They line their pockets, lie to the cameras, lie on paper and rob you blind. They control there is no way in hell the sheep - that's the civilians - want the rabid wolves holding the purse strings, controlling the income, the taxes, and appointing like minded martins, wolverines and foxes to play around in the henhouse.
I'm all for Civil War.. There will be new property-owners and management in a dozen states, some with beachfront-property.. We might even end up welding the Melting Pot and cleaning out the dross.
 

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Awww Come on!

Trump announces two-week delay to planned ICE deportations
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-announces-a-two-week-delay-to-planned-ice-deportations

Fuckin Asshole is giving them two weeks to work out an amnesty deal?

Fuckin sellout! NO AMNESTY! Deport them now! Throw them out on their ass & you will see Congress move!
He damnedwell better veto amnesty and any shit with riders. Keep telling yerself this is just another ploy to get them to screw up more.
 

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