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Which US Presidential candidate will you be voting for?


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pulsevape

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I recall when right wingers raised hell about Hillary acting beyond her first lady duties.
Why no fuss about the first daughter and first son doing more than Hillary ever did?
They are merely advisers and occupy no official post in our government and should not be allowed to speak for the USA to other diplomats and such.
Well maybe....it;s because the first son and daughter don't go around assassinating people.
 

pulsevape

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so how is it the guy wasn't in prison already.....boy the city of Portland is looking at being sued to the point their schoolchilderen will be using grocery bags for writing paper.....and God willing Cruz will be able to invesigste and hopefully jail the Mayor.
 

PoppaVic

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so how is it the guy wasn't in prison already.....boy the city of Portland is looking at being sued to the point their schoolchilderen will be using grocery bags for writing paper.....and God willing Cruz will be able to invesigste and hopefully jail the Mayor.
Exactly how do we investigate anything?

With the completely compromised FBI? Well, ok - we could withdraw all except Trumps SS agents... Maybe the ATF and DEA and FEMA can do something USEFUL for a change..?
 

Tpat591

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Everyone raise my hand if you remember "wolfpacks" and "liberty ships"..

I would feel just awful.. Awful I say - for a picosec.
Still what is the capacity of your average cruise ship 3,000 people? During WW2 they would double the capacity & take 6,000 troops on a cruise liner like the Britannic or Olympic. Ocean going liners of that capacity just aren't in use for this purpose today like they were in the old days. The logistics in moving 35,000 Africans to Panama unnoticed is astounding. You are dealing with a military style convoy sea lift effort, Who has the shipping capacity to accomplish something so monumental? I doubt even the Chinese could accomplish that in less than 3 months unnoticed unless they are packing them in shipping containers like sardines. No small feat.

It is a coordinated, well funded, multinational effort to invade & destabilize the USA.
 
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PoppaVic

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Still what is the capacity of your average cruise ship 3,000 people? During WW2 they would double the capacity & take 6,000 troops on a cruise liner like the Britannic or Olympic. Ocean going liners of that capacity just aren't in use for this purpose today like they were in the old days. The logistics in moving 35,000 Africans to Panama unnoticed is astounding. You are dealing with a military style convoy sea lift effort, Who has the shipping capacity to accomplish something so monumental? I doubt even the Chinese could accomplish that in less than 3 months unnoticed unless they are packing them in shipping containers like sardines. No small feat.

It is a coordinated, well funded, multinational effort to invade & destabilize the USA.
Yup, we've been fucked with sea-capability since wwII - the only way to ship anything is aircraft and Navy vessels - which is why we can't withdraw munitions/fungibles. Our country deliberately did in their own merchant marine.

All that said, I don't care whose ships they are - they'll still sink nicely. And, just think - we're helping the ecology by feeding the sharks.
 

Tpat591

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Yup, we've been fucked with sea-capability since wwII - the only way to ship anything is aircraft and Navy vessels - which is why we can't withdraw munitions/fungibles. Our country deliberately did in their own merchant marine.

All that said, I don't care whose ships they are - they'll still sink nicely. And, just think - we're helping the ecology by feeding the sharks.
China
Russia
NATO
UK
Germany
USA

Are about the only ones I can think of with the theoretical sealift / airlift capabilities to pull it off
 
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Tpat591

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Rossum

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Still what is the capacity of your average cruise ship 3,000 people? During WW2 they would double the capacity & take 6,000 troops on a cruise liner like the Britannic or Olympic. Ocean going liners of that capacity just aren't in use for this purpose today like they were in the old days. The logistics in moving 35,000 Africans to Panama unnoticed is astounding. You are dealing with a military style convoy sea lift effort, Who has the shipping capacity to accomplish something so monumental? I doubt even the Chinese could accomplish that in less than 3 months unnoticed unless they are packing them in shipping containers like sardines. No small feat.

It is a coordinated, well funded, multinational effort to invade & destabilize the USA.
What makes you think they came on ships?

A 767 will easily carry 350 people with an all coach seating layout. One plane making a round trip every day can get it done in 100 days, two planes in 50 days, and three in barely more than a month. Find a site with a live air traffic map and ask if anyone would notice one to three extra charter flights per day.
 

Tpat591

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What makes you think they came on ships?

A 767 will easily carry 350 people with an all coach seating layout. One plane making a round trip every day can get it done in 100 days, two planes in 50 days, and three in barely more than a month. Find a site with a live air traffic map and ask if anyone would notice one to three extra charter flights per day.
Merely thinking of the Economics & lack of Port Security vs Air Travel. Much more economical & logistically efficient to move such numbers from an impoverished African nation via Sealift in my minds eye.

Actually, when you think about it, it would just be more efficient to have a South American Country deport all the migrants the UN forced on them over last 3 years all at once..
 
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MyMagicMist

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Everyone raise my hand if you remember "wolfpacks
Not sure if it's the same but wolfpacks in the modern navy refers to a classing of nuclear powered submarines. During WWII though wolfpacks were Nazi U-boats (submarines) that played hell with sinking everything that floated if they could.
 

MyMagicMist

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It is a coordinated, well funded, multinational effort to invade & destabilize the USA.

A bit of a different view for you to think about. I don't require a reply either. America will destabilize itself from within. It is coming sooner than most care to think about too. McDondald's workers only hastened it along by requesting a $15hrly minimum wage. Capital won't grant that to "unskilled" labor of any kind, much less skilled labor. We'll soon watch as autonomous cars take over cab driver, Uber jobs. Autonomous tractor and trailer rigs will be allowed on public roads. If not that's a non-issue too.

Capital will implement roads having solar panels lain in them with a means to charge fully electric ran tractor trailers that deliver to major cities and let autonomous light trucks finish distribution. They're also getting rid of surgeons, lawyers, accountants, writers. If the laws will not change then they'll just go ahead and walk over them, or around them. Capital won't care as they have the money and will keep it.

I've seen this coming for quite a while now, in all the shit jobs I've worked. Farming isn't even safe. Back in the 1980's Capital already had set up sharecropping pig farms, requiring no knowledge of how to farm pigs at all. Hell, a person didn't even need to read. "Look at the pictures in the book, compare to your pig/s. The pictures show you what to do. Follow that and only that." People were taking it in too hook line and sinker. They got a $30,000 home that took 30 years to pay off by working as a pig steward. See N.C. and what was once called it's river of shit. It come from all the factory pig farms.

Henry Ford's great invention of the factory has led us here. Everything gets set up as McDonald's so any monkey can and literally will be trained to break any task into micro-tasks and complete each one in turn to complete the "product" or just one micro-task, then down the line for the next monkey and out to the showroom. This way Capital keeps a wellspring of "unskilled" labor readily at hand. "Don't like the job of putting pickles on? Fine, you're fired I've got 2,000 waiting for your job. See ya!"

And now since people asked for dignity in a fair wage, Capital will just roll out the robots. They don't need people except to buy the crap produced. Now, if folks got no jobs how are they buying high priced crap, much less any crap? So then the whole damn thing tumbles over. Humpty Dumpty won't go back together.
 

The Cromwell

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Fox News Had a Different Reaction When Obama Wanted to Negotiate with North Korea

Only Nixon can go to China and only Trump can go to North Korea.
Lots of similarities between Nixon and Trump.
 

MyMagicMist

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Fox News Had a Different Reaction When Obama Wanted to Negotiate with North Korea

Only Nixon can go to China and only Trump can go to North Korea.
Lots of similarities between Nixon and Trump.

I chuckle because ultimately, politics, religion, favorite sports teams, gender, creed, color, sexual orientation will not make a shit to any of it. Yes, I see what you're point out though.
 
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