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Which US Presidential candidate will you be voting for?


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pulsevape

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It's very difficult to watch but I like to see how public opinion is formed. It's like watching this video.

Cool and this is exactly what are media is doing...everyday they have their Trump hate fest, and bring on another person who hears the bell and stands up, until we all join the crowd of hating trump...our media is just the guy ringing the bell.....and people are afraid of being,,,,excluded.ostracized
 

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I recognize the right of a free people to institute a society,and a system of law to ensure a civil society..anarchy is nothing more than the right of the strong to prey on the weak. I believe in arepresentaive government not anarchy, nor a tyranny of oligarchies.without immigration laws the ballot box is irrelevant.I believe the constitution does not extend to forgiven nationals. Hell if I believed in anarchy I would just move to Mexico.
OK. But you didn't answer my question. ;)
 

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Trump knocked it out of the park tonight. I had a permanent grin listening to his speech and was imagining all the splody heads around all the "newsrooms" as damn near every talking head had their predictions and presumptions dashed.

Love that faux news was running the ticker before he spoke on how mex prez said they would not pay for the wall contradicting DJT's saying they did not discuss it...

BUT--

Even though the mexican prez said he told Trump they would not pay for the wall, all Trump said was "we did not discuss it" which means that even if the mex prez said what he says he did that would still make Trump's statement correct..."We'll save that conversation for later" as Trump himself said during their joint statement after their meeting.
 

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The shocking thing is that this shit is in the open now! Pay to Play with the Clinton foundation, Top secret government emails on an open email server, mysterious deaths of people who where going to spill the bean on the Clinton's, hacked communications showing blatant and illegal subterfuge of Democratic challengers. And no one seems to give a flying crap about it, all due to our Truth Ministry. the Main Stream Media - social media included.

Trump's move with the Mexi Pres will be ripped soon enough. But it's a win for now....and that's all that matters for a public that has the attention span of a fruitfly.
 

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Don't be suprised if Anthony Weiner has an "accident" real soon. I'm sure he knows where some of the bodies are buried. They already sent child services after him. This could get interesting. Trump did slam it outta the park tonight. Putting those Mom's up there was powerful.

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pulsevape

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The shocking thing is that this shit is in the open now! Pay to Play with the Clinton foundation, Top secret government emails on an open email server, mysterious deaths of people who where going to spill the bean on the Clinton's, hacked communications showing blatant and illegal subterfuge of Democratic challengers. And no one seems to give a flying crap about it, all due to our Truth Ministry. the Main Stream Media - social media included.

Trump's move with the Mexi Pres will be ripped soon enough. But it's a win for now....and that's all that matters for a public that has the attention span of a fruitfly.
Yep, not to mention the hacked emails showing Soros influences on our politics.
 

HondaDavidson

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Do you obey them anyway?

It's impossible for the average American to go 1 day without breaking or bending some law regulation or rule. Hell.. just breathing brings one into conflict with environmental law.

This is why Hitlery getting off shows the corruption so plainly.

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It's impossible for the average American to go 1 day without breaking or bending some law regulation or rule. Hell.. just breathing brings one into conflict with environmental law.

This is why Hitlery getting off shows the corruption so plainly.

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This is actually a pet theory of mine, that a web of laws and ordinances exist to trap an individual that the state deems politically dangerous. An example is in the motor vehicle code and ordinances in my state. If your floor mats are not secured properly, you can be fined and found guilty of a misdemeanor with a 30 day jail sentence. It's not routinely used, but it exists and will be used if the state wants to fuck with you over your politics and activism. How many floor mats are secured with screws or other means in cars in the USA? A: NONE.

Own a dog and let it doing it's business in your back yard without immediately picking up the poop and disposing of it? You are in violation of city, state, and county sanitary ordinances that carry a fine and possible jail time.

Grow Burpee tomatoes and save the seeds from one to plant next year? You've just committed a Federal Felony. Grow Monsanto Sweet Corn and save some seeds from the crop to plant next year? Federal Felony. Does not matter if you plant 1 seed or an an entire field.

Want to mess with a man or woman who does not tow the political line and has kids? An anonymous call to Child Protective Services is all it takes. The lawyers suck the bank accounts of the victims dry while they fight to get their kids back. Economic ruin and state sanctioned kidnapping.

Those in power make use of the legal web and trap those they want to fuck over. The political party does not matter, both use it as much as they can.
 

Rossum

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This is actually a pet theory of mine, that a web of laws and ordinances exist to trap an individual that the state deems politically dangerous. An example is in the motor vehicle code and ordinances in my state. If your floor mats are not secured properly, you can be fined and found guilty of a misdemeanor with a 30 day jail sentence. It's not routinely used, but it exists and will be used if the state wants to fuck with you over your politics and activism. How many floor mats are secured with screws or other means in cars in the USA? A: NONE.

Own a dog and let it doing it's business in your back yard without immediately picking up the poop and disposing of it? You are in violation of city, state, and county sanitary ordinances that carry a fine and possible jail time.

Grow Burpee tomatoes and save the seeds from one to plant next year? You've just committed a Federal Felony. Grow Monsanto Sweet Corn and save some seeds from the crop to plant next year? Federal Felony. Does not matter if you plant 1 seed or an an entire field.

Want to mess with a man or woman who does not tow the political line and has kids? An anonymous call to Child Protective Services is all it takes. The lawyers suck the bank accounts of the victims dry while they fight to get their kids back. Economic ruin and state sanctioned kidnapping.

Those in power make use of the legal web and trap those they want to fuck over. The political party does not matter, both use it as much as they can.
Indeed. While those in power violate laws with what appears to be utter impunity.
 

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Probly I'll vote for Trump...don't like Hilary much and really don't like Trump much better...lol

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Arthur

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This is actually a pet theory of mine, that a web of laws and ordinances exist to trap an individual that the state deems politically dangerous. An example is in the motor vehicle code and ordinances in my state. If your floor mats are not secured properly, you can be fined and found guilty of a misdemeanor with a 30 day jail sentence. It's not routinely used, but it exists and will be used if the state wants to fuck with you over your politics and activism. How many floor mats are secured with screws or other means in cars in the USA? A: NONE.

Own a dog and let it doing it's business in your back yard without immediately picking up the poop and disposing of it? You are in violation of city, state, and county sanitary ordinances that carry a fine and possible jail time.

Grow Burpee tomatoes and save the seeds from one to plant next year? You've just committed a Federal Felony. Grow Monsanto Sweet Corn and save some seeds from the crop to plant next year? Federal Felony. Does not matter if you plant 1 seed or an an entire field.

Want to mess with a man or woman who does not tow the political line and has kids? An anonymous call to Child Protective Services is all it takes. The lawyers suck the bank accounts of the victims dry while they fight to get their kids back. Economic ruin and state sanctioned kidnapping.

Those in power make use of the legal web and trap those they want to fuck over. The political party does not matter, both use it as much as they can.
It reminds me when i was an apprentice in the union a guy they didnt like would be asked to stand by a hole in the ground and watch it before pipe went in . Now the pipe may be going in in a week but .....if the guy went to take a piss or woundered from boredom the foreman would be waiting ...i told you to watch that hole your fired for not doing as told .

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Exactly as I postulated in an earlier post...Nieto's own people said that they agreed not to discuss who would pay for the wall at that meeting.The mex prez stated to Trump at their meeting that they would not pay for the wall but NO discussion was had on that issue.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...cy-speech-after-mexican-presidents-tweet.html

The hillary whore globalist media of course cried "he lied" when actually he told the truth.

Then Nieto tried to save face after being attacked by his own media by stating that he told Trump that mexico would not pay for the wall..

Just another pussy move by a weak leader.
 

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exactlly..this is the libertarian party now,as well as supporting gun control...It's mindboggeling this pinheaded freak is the candidate for the Libertarian party....This slimey ass bastard made a fortune running a large construction company in NM, and he's loyalty to illegals is based on his complicity in breaking the immigration and labor laws, the illegls which he hired for years and made him wealthy.I have far fewer problems with illegals than I have with scum like this who by all rights should be in a jail cell.He has to legitamize illegals being here so he can justify his own crimes, and how being a criminal and accounts for his welath..I have far fewer problems with some poor kid in Oakland selling herbal products to make a living than some rich white puke hiring illegals and displacing american workers to make himself rich.he couldn't give a rats ass about the people themselves....As someone who is also from New mexico and grew up in the barrio, long before New Mexico became a haven for white trust fund babbies and burned out Californians looking to leverage up their real estate...I know that Gary Johnson displaced poor American Chicanos, who work construction to fill his bank account.
 
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pulsevape

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LOL.

He says decades ago they were called "undocumented workers". Um, no. Until recently they were called illegal aliens. They still are in many statutes.
having grown up on the border....decades ago... I know they were never called undocumented workers...he's a lying sack of shit.
 

skeene

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I don't see how that immigration speech helped him. zero Latino support now.
 

Time

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I don't see how that immigration speech helped him. zero Latino support now.

I suppose he could have offered to give them all cash at the border when more come in to get him some votes.

If we can't outvote them now, we may as well put Enrique Peña Nieto on the ballot.

I'm not a Christian and I don't like Michelle Bachmann but she is correct about the immigration vote.

 
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@skeene ...

Contrary to the opinion of mainstream media talking heads (and what they would have us believe), most LEGAL latinos and other LEGAL immigrants actually support proper immigration control...not uncontrolled illegal immigration,.

....And who actually gives a flying fuck what the illegals think anyway?
 

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@skeene ...

Contrary to the opinion of mainstream media talking heads (and what they would have us believe), most LEGAL latinos and other LEGAL immigrants actually support proper immigration control...not uncontrolled illegal immigration,.

....And who actually gives a flying fuck what the illegals think anyway?

I agree. I'm just a white guy but all of my latino brothers(those I served with) around the country are voting for Trump. Their FB posts are all pro Trump. My other latino brothers(family) are also voting for Trump.
 

skeene

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I think he'll be lucky to get 2% of the Latino vote. probably not much more of the black vote. hopefully most will just stay home on election day
 

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pulsevape

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You might be correct... but using Trumps campaign media ARM as your source is not going to help. Brietbart is to Trump as CNN is to the Clintons.

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the thing is the media is openly calling Brietbart .a "far right" media outlet, and yet calls CNN a unbiased outlet....is there a member of the Brietbart staff who gets to be a presidental debate moderator...uh nah.
 
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SgtRock

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You might be correct... but using Trumps campaign media ARM as your source is not going to help. Brietbart is to Trump as CNN is to the Clintons.

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That was only one source...plenty more stories out there if you are a reader. That just happened to be one story I read yesterday.

Not only that, the guy being interviewed certainly is not a Breitbart employee ;)
 

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the thing is the media is openly calling Brietbart .a "far right" media outlet, and yet calls CNN a unbiased outlet....is there a member of the Brietbart staff who gets to be a presidental debate moderator...uh nah.
The media and left define who is or is not biased........ AND considering who is running Trumps campaign.... Brietbart is no longer a valid NEWs source..... Opinion and commentary sure... factual news ... No.

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pulsevape

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The media and left define who is or is not biased........ AND considering who is running Trumps campaign.... Brietbart is no longer a valid NEWs source..... Opinion and commentary sure... factual news ... No.

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Well then please enlighten us on the NEWs sources, because I can't find one under your definition...I can distinguish between opinion and news...if an outlet prints a story that CNN refuses to print, that doesn't make the story any less true...I don't care if the story comes from the right the left or outer space,as long as the information is true. WHen Jesse Jackson got caught with having another wife and family nobody in the so called NEWs would print the story because they feared being beaten down by the race hustlers....the story broke in of all places the National Inquirer, because they were not afraid of the race pimps....so much for your legitimate NEWs.

WHen one member after the other of the so called legitimate news outlets openly say that they have a moral imperative to lie and smear Trump,because he is a danger to the world. Brietbart seems far more legitimate,The attacks on Brietbart are a matter of shooting the messenger and stifling political dissent.
 
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Breitbart still reports factual news and also posts opinion pieces...

There's not ONE news source that does not have a mix of both.

If you are so hung up on the source then consider this one that makes my point. You can't get more far left than msnbc
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/ran...-asks-latino-trump-supporter-not-say-illegals

Just because you have a hard on for Breitbart does not mean that they do not post real news...only that YOU don't like their viewpoint.
 

HondaDavidson

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Does anyone actually watch msnbc.....it's like romper room.

More than CNN...... or so ratings say

Though, I can only take a few minutes at a time of any of them these days.

I really watch the cable news to see what there are lying about. I'll watch an event on the Net or Cspan.. Then flip through the channels and wonder at how they are all talking about the same event.. Amazing how many different versions of every political event there are. Person says something in a speech, you get a bunch of interpretations that leave one wondering if these reporters saw the same event I did. Then there's the interview and news conferences. Where the question a reporter asks a candidate (more often tosses out from the crowd).... becomes the outrageous statement/opinion of the candidate, whether they responded or NOT.

I know of NO Good single news sources anymore. That went away during the 80's and 90's. I read, watch, listen to a bunch of different sources. IMO the truth is still in there, it's just mostly hidden "between the lines".

Nixons Watergate was like jay walking compared to the crap the Clintons and now Obama have done. Clintons learned from Nixon, she was part of the investigation after-all, how to get away with corruption. Obama, well.... he's from Chicago, what did you expect.

I have no problem with Brietbart as a news source. I was just saying Brietbart, as far as Trump and Clinton go. Is purely Opinion anymore. Sure they have Real News stories. And I will trust them in other subjects. But being part of the Trump campaign, I will not trust them on that subject pro or con. I might believe them More at this point if they have a story against Trump and Pro Clinton.... But I will be suspect with all political stories. At least for now. I would never quote MSNBC re the Left in general or FOX about the right or CNN about anything for or against a Clinton.
 

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Cnn cut off a guy the other night because he said Clintion destroyed phones with hammers . The host said fact check fact check ! They went to an other cnn talking head and he confirmed it ....the look on the hosts face was priceless.

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The media and left define who is or is not biased........ AND considering who is running Trumps campaign.... Brietbart is no longer a valid NEWs source..... Opinion and commentary sure... factual news ... No.

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The problem with this is, Brietbart fully endorsed and supported Cruz and Rubio(among others) in their bids for Senate. And then dumped them for President. Rubio got dumped because of his poor performance in his new job showing himself as one of the elite. Cruz never had a chance from Brietbart because to endorse him after going after Obama on the birther issue would be an obvious double standard. He later showed himself to be an insider.

Brietbart, has shown integrity in their opinion reporting by dumping those they previously supported. They are at least consistent in their standards. CNN/MSNBC/FOX are not consistent in the least. Brietbart's consistency is with ideology. The rest are consistent by candidate(they'll stick by Hitlery or Bush no matter of policy/corruption).

There is no comparison. And I rarely read Brietbart. There just isn't a need for me to read them as the few times that I do, they have come to the same conclusions that I do.
 

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Yeah man..that Abedin is a real piece of work.
 

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I think I need a T shirt that says.....I'm part of the great worldwide Putin conspiracy......

But, but, but,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Putin was KGB!

Bush being the head of the CIA is not the same,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
 

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But, but, but,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Putin was KGB!

Bush being the head of the CIA is not the same,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
not even close to the same....Putin is bald......and can bench press 300.
 
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Arthur

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Putin is a certified bad ass ..if chuck Norris was a politician putin would be the number 2 badass politician

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Putin aside, the first shots for the next big one will be fired in the South China Sea.
 
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