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Which US Presidential candidate will you be voting for?


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pulsevape

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I really..really need this as a t-shirt....
 

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I'm starting to think Trump may actually have a chance, if he continues to say on message. Not a big chance, but something to hope for.
 

Arthur

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such as....
You know what pulse i was wrong i was half listening today in the background at work to glen beck who was rattling off some comments how bannon is the champion of the alt right and the philosophies of white supremacy . He had a guy on who worked at brietbart tell ing some awful shit about Bannon . I just did my own research and there is nothing there . I should of taken the source with a grain of salt befor i said anything .

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Arthur

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I feel into the trap most people do of half listening or background noise . Things stick in your head even if its bullshit shows the power of the media and the constant barrage on trump even a guy that is voting for him can be taken in if its said enough . Not that im making a excuse for my sheeple moment .

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You know what pulse i was wrong i was half listening today in the background at work to glen beck who was rattling off some comments how bannon is the champion of the alt right and the philosophies of white supremacy . He had a guy on who worked at brietbart tell ing some awful shit about Bannon . I just did my own research and there is nothing there . I should of taken the source with a grain of salt befor i said anything .

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I googled 'alt right' this morning. I hadn't heard it before. Everything that came up was recent liberal news stories, from the last two days. The wikipedia page was fresh, last edited this morning, with many of the "news articles" cited being those recent ones. Also, it was locked for editing which is only done for very popular pages. The only mention outside of that was a Brietbart story in which the 'alt right' is basically Republicans pissed at the weak Republican Party. Tea Party type folks. There was no racist "alt right" until just before Hitlery's speech and we know from email leaks she works with media.

This is every bit a made up leftist propaganda story. Literally in one day, the 'alt right' was born as a white nationalist group. The real 'alt right' is those conservatives, republicans, libertarians, tea party folks that won't vote for the likes of Bush, Romney, McCain and other corrupt elite Republicans. Nothing racist about it.
 
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I never heard the phrase either but from beck today . But he has such a hard on for trump i should of known better .

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We all know killary love for the late senator Byrd who was a kkk leader and her love of margret sanger who stated planed parenthood to kill blacks ...i belive she said the negro was a weed that needed to be plucked from society.

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I never heard the phrase either but from beck today . But he has such a hard on for trump i should of known better .

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Today's racists find out they're racist on the news. LOL.
 

pulsevape

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alt right to me is people like Ron Paul..Andrew Brietbart,Milo Yanniapoulos, Alex Jones..people who have abandoned the RNC and recognize that big bussiness is as dangerous to the republic as big goverment.I tend to think of alt right as closely aligned witgh Libertarians.....people that recognize the new world order and, can see it happening and want to preserve the republics. people who recognize the totlitarian nature of the international left, people who want freedom. Most of the advocates of the alt right tend to be younger, they could just as eaily smoke sticky herb and be organic farmers , than be a traditional fundamentalist....a term I heard for them before alt right was crunchy conservatives, conservatives that ate granola....they tend not to rely on trditional sources of information and are more likely to get there news off the internet,they may have very traditional moral ethics or the could just as easily be aethiests....conservatives who recognize that the RNC is not right wing,but bought off bunch of chamber of commerce shills. in other words they truly believe in personal freedom and real intellectual freedom.....they are truly dangerous to both parties as they have totally abandoned the RNC and they despise the DNC....they question all authority....to me alt right is Thomas Jefferson......so you could see why Hilry would hate them.....The alt right is not just interested in destroying the left they are also interested in destroying the illusion that the RNC is right wing....they are Consittutionalists,
 
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pulsevape

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You know what pulse i was wrong i was half listening today in the background at work to glen beck who was rattling off some comments how bannon is the champion of the alt right and the philosophies of white supremacy . He had a guy on who worked at brietbart tell ing some awful shit about Bannon . I just did my own research and there is nothing there . I should of taken the source with a grain of salt befor i said anything .

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OK yeah..Glenn Beck.....what the fuck is wrong with you? The man is a lunatic.I only listen to him if I want to know when the rapture is coming and how to survive a nucuelar holocaust on manna and locust....his unquestioning support of Isreal like some biblical mandate I find scary.
 
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Arthur

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I used to listen all the time i thought at one time he had some good points but he has gone off the rails the last year or 2 . I just happened to listen today . I didnt know he was a nevertumper . But i never saw him as a liar till today .

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pulsevape

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I used to listen all the time i thought at one time he had some good points but he has gone off the rails the last year or 2 . I just happened to listen today . I didnt know he was a nevertumper . But i never saw him as a liar till today .

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He's a gatekeeper.....personally I think somebody has some pictures of him back in his drinking days with a boy scout troop and a half pound of Colombia's finest white.
 

pulsevape

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We all know killary love for the late senator Byrd who was a kkk leader and her love of margret sanger who stated planed parenthood to kill blacks ...i belive she said the negro was a weed that needed to be plucked from society.

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poor whites were also weeds she thought needed to be eliminated.
 

pulsevape

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I googled 'alt right' this morning. I hadn't heard it before. Everything that came up was recent liberal news stories, from the last two days. The wikipedia page was fresh, last edited this morning, with many of the "news articles" cited being those recent ones. Also, it was locked for editing which is only done for very popular pages. The only mention outside of that was a Brietbart story in which the 'alt right' is basically Republicans pissed at the weak Republican Party. Tea Party type folks. There was no racist "alt right" until just before Hitlery's speech and we know from email leaks she works with media.

This is every bit a made up leftist propaganda story. Literally in one day, the 'alt right' was born as a white nationalist group. The real 'alt right' is those conservatives, republicans, libertarians, tea party folks that won't vote for the likes of Bush, Romney, McCain and other corrupt elite Republicans. Nothing racist about it.


Hilary like Conservaties she can own...like Ryan and Cantor and Boehner and Mc Connell. The alt right she would just as soon shoot like Bernie supporters.
 
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pulsevape

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You know what pulse i was wrong i was half listening today in the background at work to glen beck who was rattling off some comments how bannon is the champion of the alt right and the philosophies of white supremacy . He had a guy on who worked at brietbart tell ing some awful shit about Bannon . I just did my own research and there is nothing there . I should of taken the source with a grain of salt befor i said anything .

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I'm not as familiar with Bannon as I am with Andrew Brietbart.
 

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The only reason to vote for Hilary I can see,,is if you think things are too far gone...and you just want to destory the whole country down to ashes and rebuild from the ground up...if I didn't have a kid, I'd vote for Hilary in a minute let her destroy everything, and then rebuild. Hell if I had the money I'd just leave the country and vote for the hag twice before I left, and come back and rebuild after the vultures were done.
I have the money. I could live pretty much anywhere. I'm staying -- no matter who ends up "elected".

Up on the Blue Ridge Mountains, there I'll take my stand.
A rifle on my shoulder, six shooter in my hand;
Oh Lord, I been all around this world.

Hang me, oh, hang me, so I'll be dead and gone.
I wouldn't mind your hangin', boys but you waiting takes so long.
Oh Lord, I been all around this world.
 

pulsevape

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I have the money. I could live pretty much anywhere. I'm staying -- no matter who ends up "elected".

Up on the Blue Ridge Mountains, there I'll take my stand.
A rifle on my shoulder, six shooter in my hand;
Oh Lord, I been all around this world.

Hang me, oh, hang me, so I'll be dead and gone.
I wouldn't mind your hangin', boys but you waiting takes so long.
Oh Lord, I been all around this world.

I don't mind fighting a tyrannt, but I'll be damned if I will fight for a nation of gratefull slaves. If they embrace their chains so dearly they can have them.
 

Time

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I have the money. I could live pretty much anywhere. I'm staying -- no matter who ends up "elected".

Up on the Blue Ridge Mountains, there I'll take my stand.
A rifle on my shoulder, six shooter in my hand;
Oh Lord, I been all around this world.

Hang me, oh, hang me, so I'll be dead and gone.
I wouldn't mind your hangin', boys but you waiting takes so long.
Oh Lord, I been all around this world.


I'll never be
A refugee
 

HondaDavidson

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I have the money. I could live pretty much anywhere. I'm staying -- no matter who ends up "elected".

Up on the Blue Ridge Mountains, there I'll take my stand.
A rifle on my shoulder, six shooter in my hand;
Oh Lord, I been all around this world.

Hang me, oh, hang me, so I'll be dead and gone.
I wouldn't mind your hangin', boys but you waiting takes so long.
Oh Lord, I been all around this world.
I have boots a knife and a gun. Don't really need money....

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Time

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The above is very true. But what if both sides are oppressors, and just commit different injustices?

In the case of this election, I don't know that that is the case. It may be, but I don't see it yet.

I can't know what is in peoples heads or hearts. I can only guess, based on prior acts, not words.

I'm rough spoken and not particularly articulate. I can't begrudge Trump his speaking. I also have to live and operate in the system we have, so despite my disdain for certain government programs, I use them. I can't begrudge Trump for operating his business' within the system.

I have no idea if Trump will do what is right. I do know that Hitlery will not. I knew that Romney would not, as per his actions as governor.

Somebody has to do it. I can't do nothing and let it be Hillary.

One choice is an unknown, for me. The other is not.
 

Rossum

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I have boots a knife and a gun. Don't really need money....
Well, you may be able to walk to Canada or Mexico in those boots, but get caught with your gun in either of those countries and you won't be moving anywhere else for a while. ;)
 

pulsevape

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Well, you may be able to walk to Canada or Mexico in those boots, but get caught with your gun in either of those countries and you won't be moving anywhere else for a while. ;)
If Hilary gets elected you may well be able to say the same thing about the US.especially if she is the one picking the Supreme Court judges....bye bye constitution.
 

HondaDavidson

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Well, you may be able to walk to Canada or Mexico in those boots, but get caught with your gun in either of those countries and you won't be moving anywhere else for a while. ;)
Why would I leave... She not going to installed as Queen Hiltery. Yes thing are sucking and might even get worse... it's not Mexico or Canada bad yet.

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pulsevape

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Why would I leave... She not going to installed as Queen Hiltery. Yes thing are sucking and might even get worse... it's not Mexico or Canada bad yet.

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Sure it is, in fact it is worse....the frog has just been cooked slowly so we don't notice it...Eric Holder and Obama have openly admitted that the way they interpet the consitution is thAT THE 2ND amdenment doesn't refer to private ownership of guns...but only to state militas....so Hilary appoints supreme court judges and private ownership of guns could very well dissapear.Hilary also advocates for state control of the internet... The DNC is illegally,and unconstitutionally displacing Americans with an invasion of illegal and legal immigrants in order to stuff the ballot box for the next 100 years.We have a press that is openly refusing to print the truth...they have openly said that they have a moral obligation to , lecture the people on who to vote for,and refuse the people the right to self determination...that circumvents there obligation to just print the news, they are now offically the ministry of truth as in Orwells 1984, and the have openly admitted they are in the bag totally for Hilary.We have Google supressing the truth and information about Hilary's health, and the long lists of murders and sucicides connected to the Clintons.Twiitter is supressing wikileaks....Both the IRS and the DOJ are nothing more than the Statsi, they are being instructed by the DNC to hunt down and punish and supress political dissidents, we have the largest domestic survelliance system in the History of the world.....I lived with a girl for 5 years who lost both her grandfathers in the camps of the National Socialist Party of Germany(Nazis)......Every man who signed the Constitution,and the entire reason there is a Constitution .....is because they believed.....YES, it could happen here.
 

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100% agreed @pulsevape

IMO, Either we vote Trump in or what we have that nearly passes for a republic will be completely demolished.

We can attempt to reconstruct the constitutional republic with Trump at the helm or we can watch clinton destroy the remains of what once was a great country and welcome in the one world government.

If the latter happens, you better have your shit together because our country and our society as we know it will cease to exist.
 

Zamazam

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All we need to do is look at the EU to see whats in store for us. Countries that don't tow the socialist political agenda are punished fiscally and economically to ruin. Greece is the current target, Hungary, Poland, and Czechoslovakia are next. German Economists are openly stating that the influx of "refugees" will cost the German economy tens of Billions of Euros over the next few years. The country can't continue to pay retirement and offer medical and social services at an acceptable level to native German's with that stone around their necks. So the benefits will be reduced moving generations into state induced poverty, a new class of serf is the ultimate goal here. Minimum wage jobs will be fought over by native Germans and the "refugees" and their families. Guess who the jobs will go to?

Germany has come to the conclusion that "refugees and immigrants" won't integrate into their society. Not even 2nd and 3rd generations. Turkish temporary workers who were brought in to help rebuild Germany after the war simply stayed. They have not integrated into German society, they may speak fluent German, but they consciously create Turkish only enclaves and refuse to change. The same will happen with the Syrians and North African "Refugees". There is a collective insanity at work here. If past immigrants didn't assimilate into German culture, then the solution is to bring in vast numbers of immigrants and refugees to make it work. Einstein postulated that performing the same equation over and over, hoping for a different answer is an indication of insanity. This type of situation is in store for America if Hillary wins.

As it stands now, social security will be bankrupt in 2030. In the near future with a few million "refugees" getting welfare payments and low cost or free housing and medical, the Social Security bankrupt date will be moved to 2025, taxes will go up and the benefits go way down. Same situation that Germany will experience shortly.

Politicians and politics have been notoriously short sighted throughout history, but not this time. The end goal is to reduce then remove resistance to encroaching government oversight of our lives. Sadly, this is exactly what Communism did to Russia and the USSR. Now we have "Useful Idiots" fighting to make socialism a new standard with the destruction of the middle and upper middle classes. What they don't realize is that once the regime is in place, they will be kicked to the curb with everyone else.

The U.S. has a chance to make a change that will possibly reverberate around the world by letting the populace make decisions that will affect the future, and that is exactly what Clinton and her useful idiots are trying to stop. There's no money and power in letting the People determine their collective destiny.
 

pulsevape

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the clinton machine won't be easy to beat. for some reason many people don't care about corruption in government.
THey take their cues like trained seals from the talking heads on tv with 500 dollar haircuts and million dollar smiles.....that are indifferent and blasé about clintons crimes, and then feign outrage over trump kicking a puppy when he was 9 years old.Americans...if they were awake would vote for trump just as an act of defiance against the elite and their media....
 

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you can thank the pablum of TV and it's constant barrage of propaganda.

Yep. The media pushes "group think".

Reporters, commentators and people of positions of power that should know are paraded in front of the camera, all repeating the same lines over and over and over again. They'll say "voters think", "veterans think", "women think", or whatever group "think" will make people want to be part of that group. All those people can't be wrong.

Hillary is not corrupt. She has a "perception" problem. It just makes her look corrupt. At least, that's the word the talking heads have been using. "Perception".
 
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Yep. The media pushes "group think".

Reporters, commentators and people of positions of power that should know are paraded in front of the camera, all repeating the same lines over and over and over again. They'll say "voters think", "veterans think", "women think", or whatever group "think" will make people want to be part of that group. All those people can't be wrong.

Hillary is not corrupt. She has a "perception" problem. It just makes her look corrupt. At least, that's the word the talking heads have been using. "Perception".
How many times have we all been told that perception equals reality in the eye of the beholder?
 

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All we need to do is look at the EU to see whats in store for us. Countries that don't tow the socialist political agenda are punished fiscally and economically to ruin. Greece is the current target, Hungary, Poland, and Czechoslovakia are next. German Economists are openly stating that the influx of "refugees" will cost the German economy tens of Billions of Euros over the next few years. The country can't continue to pay retirement and offer medical and social services at an acceptable level to native German's with that stone around their necks. So the benefits will be reduced moving generations into state induced poverty, a new class of serf is the ultimate goal here. Minimum wage jobs will be fought over by native Germans and the "refugees" and their families. Guess who the jobs will go to?

Germany has come to the conclusion that "refugees and immigrants" won't integrate into their society. Not even 2nd and 3rd generations. Turkish temporary workers who were brought in to help rebuild Germany after the war simply stayed. They have not integrated into German society, they may speak fluent German, but they consciously create Turkish only enclaves and refuse to change. The same will happen with the Syrians and North African "Refugees". There is a collective insanity at work here. If past immigrants didn't assimilate into German culture, then the solution is to bring in vast numbers of immigrants and refugees to make it work. Einstein postulated that performing the same equation over and over, hoping for a different answer is an indication of insanity. This type of situation is in store for America if Hillary wins.

As it stands now, social security will be bankrupt in 2030. In the near future with a few million "refugees" getting welfare payments and low cost or free housing and medical, the Social Security bankrupt date will be moved to 2025, taxes will go up and the benefits go way down. Same situation that Germany will experience shortly.

Politicians and politics have been notoriously short sighted throughout history, but not this time. The end goal is to reduce then remove resistance to encroaching government oversight of our lives. Sadly, this is exactly what Communism did to Russia and the USSR. Now we have "Useful Idiots" fighting to make socialism a new standard with the destruction of the middle and upper middle classes. What they don't realize is that once the regime is in place, they will be kicked to the curb with everyone else.

The U.S. has a chance to make a change that will possibly reverberate around the world by letting the populace make decisions that will affect the future, and that is exactly what Clinton and her useful idiots are trying to stop. There's no money and power in letting the People determine their collective destiny.
Well said @Zamazam

Another good read right here for those on the fence... Lt Gen Mike Flynn on why he's supporting Trump
 

Time

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Media coverage of Hitlery continues. Not news coverage. News cover up.

CNN has canceled Drew Pinsky’s HLN show, Dr. Drew On Call, just eight days after Pinsky made comments on a radio show questioning the health of Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton.

And then there is this.

 

pulsevape

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Paul Joesph Watson.....LOL....He is one of the most vocal spokesmen for the hated Alt right that Hilary was going on a cuckoo rant about.....I can't believe it......the hags that run Hufpo.....would love to castrate Paul Joesph Watson he should have known better.........how anyone can vote for the DNC is beyond me...it would be like voting for the Bath party under Sadda Hussien....this is ridicuoius.meanwhile the Justus deparmeant is investigating Sheriif Arpio while the bodies stack up around Hiary's ankles, and the media keeps pushing this zombie hag down our throats...the election will be stolen....daily democrats are looking like unhinged freaks.
 
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Media coverage of Hitlery continues. Not news coverage. News cover up.

CNN has canceled Drew Pinsky’s HLN show, Dr. Drew On Call, just eight days after Pinsky made comments on a radio show questioning the health of Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton.

And then there is this.

Dr Drew is lucky he didnt commit "suicide ". He got off easy

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Arthur

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And Kaepernick is a douche bag of all douchbags .i hope he never makes another dime in his life .

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Time

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Heh. If it wasn't for that stupid abe lincoln theme, that would be a good MSM propaganda piece. It goes to great lengths to say R's don't like Trump and D's don't like Hitlery and then fails to mention that L's don't like Johnson and are either not voting(writing in), or they're voting for Trump.

But hey, it might pull some votes from those voters that don't know any better. You know, the ones that fail to actually learn anything outside what they saw in a video clip.
 

fq06

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Oh, you guys do plenty of lernin from vids in this thread... but that's truly educational if it's a trump vid right?

I found some humor in it so I posted it
 

Time

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Oh, you guys do plenty of lernin from vids in this thread... but that's truly educational if it's a trump vid right?

I found some humor in it so I posted it

I'm pretty sure you said you was voting for Gary.

Is it his open borders policy or his support for TPP that attracts you?
 

fq06

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There is not any one president that will check all the boxes of what you want and has no policy or opinion that you question or dislike.

This election more than any other is a pock the least of the evils.

I am not 100% sure who I am voting for at this point (well, pretty fuckin sure it's not that douche Trump), just like every other election more comes to light the closer we get to election day.

I am looking forward to the coming debates.
 
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