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Which US Presidential candidate will you be voting for?


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Time

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Well I came across this list that is interesting....now I know none of these people possess the same blinding bussiness acumen as you do nor the high moral standing,but still in and all it is interesting and I'm sure they could have used your advice.

a short list of people who have gone bankrupt.
Williiam Durant....founder of General Motors
Francis Ford Coppola
Stan Lee
Henry Ford
Walt Disney
M J Hienz the ketchup dude
Bob Guccione
and Abraham Lincoln....fucking dishonorable pikers.

Thomas Jefferson
William McKinley
Ulysses S. Grant
 

pulsevape

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Wonder if they ever paid back what they owed after they became what would be equivalent to billionaires in todays money?

Probably not, that's inconvenient.
well most likely not.... they don't have the same moral fiber as you...more bussiness succsess maybe...more brains maybe ...more money maybe...employed more people maybe, donated more to charities maybe....but most likely not the same moral fiber
 

fq06

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I…. never have had bad credit in my life but to save my employees I would take one in the butt…. That’s a lot of people with families he was responsible for. Just saying it’s easy for someone that has had a government job their whole life to rip on that because they have an endless supply of money and will never go bankrupt, only problem is it’s our money!

That's just it though, it's not done to save the employees butts, it's to save their own.

Put a company into bankruptcy, layoff everyone and move on. Who gives a shit what the dishwasher or receptionist is going to do for work.

Start a new company, hire new people and reap the profits.

I would give kudos to someone that did as you describe but that's not usually the case.
 

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well most likely not.... they don't have the same moral fiber as you...more bussiness succsess maybe...more brains maybe ...more money maybe...employed more people maybe, donated more to charities maybe....but most likely not the same moral fiber

That's one of the many resons I'm not a billionaire.
 

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fq06

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yeah , it's funny but every fucking unwashed drunken homless man with shit smeared across his pants has told me the same thing...

Well... shit smeared across his pants would be one more reason than I have.
 

Time

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Heh.

I just read a Libertarian site, and the comments. The comments from the Libertarians (big L=Party) are hilarious. Apparently they think if one State votes for Gary then Hitlery and Trump can't get to 270 electoral votes and then the House will choose Gary. And the State they think they can win. Utah. Yep. The Mormons are gonna make Gary Johnson President. You know how Mormons love their sticky icky. That sweet smell of herb. You can't go into a bar without a "membership"(or a member signs you in), but the Mormons are going to vote for Gary, the herb CEO. Yeah, Mormons are going to vote for Gary and then the House will choose him for President. Looks like a valid path to victory, heh.

As a little (l) libertarian, this is why I never became a big (L) Libertarian. The Libertarian Party is as representative of libertarians as the Branch Davidians is representative of Christians.

Anyway, the article is actually good. The comments are good for laughs. http://libertyhangout.org/2016/07/there-is-no-logic-in-voting-for-gary-johnson/
 

HondaDavidson

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Murder isn't legal. ...bankruptcy is.

Immigration is legal sneaking across the boarder or over staying a visa is not..

UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCES

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Arthur

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@fq06 i understand your point of responsibility. Im just saying sometimes people find themselves in really bad situations thru no fault of their own . Good and honest people . Like a Vet disabled in the service of his country and cant work . Or thousands left jobless when a plant moves to Mexico. We need to elect leaders who will stop these problems and avoid situations where bankruptcy is the only option to survive. I belive you are asking for responsibility. But i dont agree with the broad label and judgment of people that have found themselves in this very painful and life altering situations . I respect your opinion and your entitled to express it freely . But you should also know people will have a different take . And will give their reasoning behind it . There are alot of people in this country who are desperate , poor ,worry day to day if they will feed their kids or have a job . Living in a affluent area you may not see this besides the drunks or druggies on the street . These are people . Some end up there by their own hand or demon's but some are there for reasons not of their own . To give someone a hand up and new start is not in moral it is being American . It is the Christian (or any faith for that matter) thing to do . Its what makes us different ,you do get a second chance . Im not giving you hate brother just my opinion !

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fq06

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Mornin. I don't disagree with that, there are people that are in unavoidable situations. I never said repeal BK laws because no one should have that leniency.
Although I do think that if you have the ability to repay your debt at any point in life, repay it.
Trump was who I was speaking about. He's not wondering how he will feed his kids, he's wondering which Rolls he going to drive (or maybe which of his daughters he's going to bang).

Then Time drug his poor old grandma into it and it went off the rails lol
 

pulsevape

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Heh.

I just read a Libertarian site, and the comments. The comments from the Libertarians (big L=Party) are hilarious. Apparently they think if one State votes for Gary then Hitlery and Trump can't get to 270 electoral votes and then the House will choose Gary. And the State they think they can win. Utah. Yep. The Mormons are gonna make Gary Johnson President. You know how Mormons love their sticky icky. That sweet smell of herb. You can't go into a bar without a "membership"(or a member signs you in), but the Mormons are going to vote for Gary, the herb CEO. Yeah, Mormons are going to vote for Gary and then the House will choose him for President. Looks like a valid path to victory, heh.

As a little (l) libertarian, this is why I never became a big (L) Libertarian. The Libertarian Party is as representative of libertarians as the Branch Davidians is representative of Christians.

Anyway, the article is actually good. The comments are good for laughs. http://libertyhangout.org/2016/07/there-is-no-logic-in-voting-for-gary-johnson/


“I do believe that climate change is occurring. I do believe that it is man-caused,” Johnson said.

To address climate change, Johnson said he believes “that there can be and is a free-market approach to climate change.” That would include a fee — not a tax, he said — placed on carbon. Such a fee would make pollutants bear a market cost.

So, apparently Gary's OK with the goverment putting a gun to people's heads to collect a FEE, but he's agianst taxes.....Whose running the Libertarian party these days , I'm not sure how an involuntary fee imposed at the point of a gun is a free market solution... ....
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Arthur

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Ok i gotta ya it went off track to a personal level .

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Rossum

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Murder isn't legal. ...bankruptcy is.

I'm marathon is legal sneaking across the boarder or over staying a visa is not..

UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCES
While that is true, we should always remember that the correlation between "legal" and "ethical/moral" is never 1:1.

I very much understand the sentiment that a man should pay his debts. OTOH, in a debt-based monetary system like ours, some debt MUST default on a regular basis, otherwise the system becomes unstable. The longer defaults are prevented by artificial means such as the ones we've seen used over the last 30 years, the more unstable it becomes. Keep that up long enough and it's mathematically inevitable that it will spiral out of control. The only question is in which direction.
 

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“I do believe that climate change is occurring. I do believe that it is man-caused,” Johnson said.

To address climate change, Johnson said he believes “that there can be and is a free-market approach to climate change.” That would include a fee — not a tax, he said — placed on carbon. Such a fee would make pollutants bear a market cost.

So, apparently Gary's OK with the goverment putting a gun to people's heads to collect a FEE, but he's agianst taxes.....Whose running the Libertarian party these days ....
I've come to realize that "Libertarian Party" is intrinsically an oxymoron, and that's despite having been a card-carrying member for several decades.
 

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Mornin. I don't disagree with that, there are people that are in unavoidable situations. I never said repeal BK laws because no one should have that leniency.
Although I do think that if you have the ability to repay your debt at any point in life, repay it.
Trump was who I was speaking about. He's not wondering how he will feed his kids, he's wondering which Rolls he going to drive (or maybe which of his daughters he's going to bang).

Then Time drug his poor old grandma into it and it went off the rails lol
and then you made a complete ass of yourself.
 

pulsevape

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I've come to realize that "Libertarian Party" is intrinsically an oxymoron, and that's despite having been a card-carrying member for several decades.
I think it's been co-opted by stoners, and polygamists.and mongolian porn collectors.
 

Arthur

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“I do believe that climate change is occurring. I do believe that it is man-caused,” Johnson said.

To address climate change, Johnson said he believes “that there can be and is a free-market approach to climate change.” That would include a fee — not a tax, he said — placed on carbon. Such a fee would make pollutants bear a market cost.

So, apparently Gary's OK with the goverment putting a gun to people's heads to collect a FEE, but he's agianst taxes.....Whose running the Libertarian party these days ....
Man made climite change is out and out bullshit . Yes man has an effect on his surrounding just like ever other animal does. Paying for carbon doesnt mean it doesnt go into the air . Its a problem created by people who say only they can solve it ! Follow the money and investments of Al Gore for example he reaps big profits from companies he and his partners own "to save the earth " its a out and out money grab . Its a shit policy that will destroy economy cheap power helps the poor and manufacturing it helps us compete with unregulated countries . Not one fucking model that was predicted to happen by now is true not 1! How do you base policy on this when the models are wrong ! Why would you act on such a world altering thing that may happen in 100 years ? Its bulshit

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fq06

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Pulsevape wins the award of the 1st person I've ever ignored on any forum. It's just nonsense antagonistic dribble spewing.
 

HondaDavidson

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Heh.

I just read a Libertarian site, and the comments. The comments from the Libertarians (big L=Party) are hilarious. Apparently they think if one State votes for Gary then Hitlery and Trump can't get to 270 electoral votes and then the House will choose Gary. And the State they think they can win. Utah. Yep. The Mormons are gonna make Gary Johnson President. You know how Mormons love their sticky icky. That sweet smell of herb. You can't go into a bar without a "membership"(or a member signs you in), but the Mormons are going to vote for Gary, the herb CEO. Yeah, Mormons are going to vote for Gary and then the House will choose him for President. Looks like a valid path to victory, heh.

As a little (l) libertarian, this is why I never became a big (L) Libertarian. The Libertarian Party is as representative of libertarians as the Branch Davidians is representative of Christians.

Anyway, the article is actually good. The comments are good for laughs. http://libertyhangout.org/2016/07/there-is-no-logic-in-voting-for-gary-johnson/
If the election goes to congress... Gary Johnson is not who would be selected..... Paul Ryan is the most likely result comming out of congress. And that's only because they would never get JEB past the people.

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If the election goes to congress... Gary Johnson is not who would be selected..... Paul Ryan is the most likely result comming out of congress. And that's only because they would never get JEB past the people.

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I don't know ....I think the GOP would roll out the red carpet for the hag...and the staus quo would continue...who knows either one,they are one in the same.In all honesty I don't see any groundswelling support for Hilary except from the Media.
 
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HondaDavidson

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I don't know ....I think the GOP would roll out the red carpet for the hag...and the staus quo would continue...who knows either one,they are one in the same.In all honesty I don't see any groundswelling support for Hilary except from the Media.
Well... the media created and directed the last few elections.. why not this one?

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Time

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Mornin. I don't disagree with that, there are people that are in unavoidable situations.

That's not what you said yesterday, but it's good to see you try to clean it up.

I just think that people should make good on their debts. Just because you can BK doesn't mean you should. I don't see that as being moral.

When I gave examples of unavoidable situations, you argued till your face was blue that they were all immoral.
 

Time

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If the election goes to congress... Gary Johnson is not who would be selected..... Paul Ryan is the most likely result comming out of congress. And that's only because they would never get JEB past the people.

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I think they'd go for Hitlery.
 

fq06

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That's not what you said yesterday, but it's good to see you try to clean it up.



When I gave examples of unavoidable situations, you argued till your face was blue that they were all immoral.


At some point do they recover financially? And then they don't pay what they borrowed?
To me that's not right, we can differ in our opinion of this.
 

Time

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At some point do they recover financially? And then they don't pay what they borrowed?
To me that's not right, we can differ in our opinion of this.

Depends.

You act like it's a one way street. Secured debt is easy. The repo man will come see you. Then, there is nothing to pay cause you already did.

Unsecure debt not so much. Most, if not all, are unscrupulous to begin with. If you have good intentions to begin with, you'll change your mind. They do all they can, legal or otherwise, to make your life hell. They don't care if you are ill. They don't care about anything. Chances are you'll file BK not because you don't want to pay, you'll file to get rid of the harassment. They'll use the legal system, so you have to use it. You won't want to pay before it's over even if you wanted to at first.

Some debt you resume. Some you don't. It's mostly based on how unscrupulous the place was.

And, not all debt is borrowed debt.
 

fq06

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Yeah, they have tou by the short & hairys with secured debt.

Lol, true... I haven't recieved harassing calls from collectors and may become less inclined to give them anything more than mailing a box with a steamy turd in it.
 

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you could always go live in the phillipines.....let's see how many Noble Prize winners come from here..........a bunch I'd bet don't you...OOps my bad..... The Phillipines had 0 zero Nobel Prize winners....stupid Americans have had over 125 Nobel Prize winners.....


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Lets not go down that path everyone. Bashing each others political views is fine, but getting overtly personal in attacks, well that leads to more of the same. That goes for me too.
 

Rossum

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I've liked Nigel for a very long time. He's never been afraid to tell it like he thinks it is. :D
 

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All right Trump's on Hannity again. Town hall meeting. Watch it.

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I've liked Nigel for a very long time. He's never been afraid to tell it like he thinks it is. :D
I loved it when he would stand up in the EU parliment and call them all lying thieves to their faces. totally expose them.The Germans and the Socailists. would be squirming in their seats shooting him looks like they wanted to flail him alive.
 
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you could always go live in the phillipines.....let's see how many Noble Prize winners come from here..........a bunch I'd bet don't you...OOps my bad..... The Phillipines had 0 zero Nobel Prize winners....stupid Americans have had over 125 Nobel Prize winners.....


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Nobel prize is a joke
Like papa trump!


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