Leading by example doesn't seem to be your strong point.
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Ok, I totally acknowledge that the VA is fucked.
But you have a choice of working for a company that offers health insurance and then you can tell the VA to fuck off.
Or you are self employed which if done right brings more money to your pocket (after deductions) so you can afford private health insurance and still net more money than a W-2 employee with benefits.
If self employed doesn't cut it for you and you can't afford private insurance or Obummer insurance, then change course and go for a corporate W-2 job that offers what you need.
Shut up dude, you don't know shit!!
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it has shit in it's diaper.Cute baby though!
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You must be getting tired because your arguments are getting pretty weak and childish.
Try tomorrow morning after you've had your wheaties.
Edit: I fixed your grammar for you dumb ass
So, have you seen where even now the Associated Press has come out and all but admitted it appears the Clinton State Depatment was a pay for play scam for the Clinton Foundation.....https://heatst.com/politics/ap-hillary-gave-clinton-foundation-donors-prime-access-at-state-dept/.....bet that was a hard pill for them to swallow
what's keeping you here?
Who said I haven't succeeded in life? I do well now, health issues not withstanding.
Yes, dumb.
You are not even making sense now. You've confused yourself so much by adding information that does not exist and trying to make up a story in your own head that you can't keep up with rather simple details.
She could not pay off her previous loan to get a new loan. She still had to make lease payments until either she, or someone else, bought the place. She could not get an additional loan over the one she had.
Revenue covered her existing loan and expenses. It did not cover her existing loan, expenses plus a new mortgage.
I guess your thinking that somehow, when the place went up for sale, her existing loan, lease and expenses just majically disappeared. They didn't. She still had to cover the lease and loan. Confusing yourself with made up shit has muddled your brain. It's all very simple.
No, if there is a lease contract and the owner sells the property there is something owed to her (depending on the contract) or she is at a minimum relesed from the contract. She does not have to pay the lease in full after she has been removed from the property due to a sale.
Whatever, I feel for grandma, I wish nothing bad on her in life or death.
You just don't like making good on your debts and brought grandma into it.
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Calling a businessman who owns or has owned interests in well over 400 companies names because 4 random enterprises failed or were reorganized is idiotic.
I listened to enough of your thoughts now to know I need listen no more.
Go fuck yourself.
Ignored.
I listened to enough of your thoughts now to know I need listen no more.
Go fuck yourself.
Ignored.
Your math doesn't work, if her revenue kept up with the lease and debt cost then there was an amount in her account equal to her debt (or close to it) so at lease termination she could have paid off her loan. Maybe there was a pre pay and that's where keeping some of your profit in a savings account for shit happens expenses comes in.
If your saying that that I shouldn't have served, it's a bit late for that. The rest is moot. Had I been able, that would have been great.
As it is, I'm a ward of the state.
Maybe you should start a "Don't join the Army campaign".
If you are referring to me, I never said he was an idiot, I said he was a marketing genius.
But I don't think highly of his morals or him as a person in general and even less of him as our president.
But if you need to ignore anyone that doesn't agree with trump for president, then go ahead and ignore me.
I think you or someone you love got hurt by a bankruptcy. Your opions are very strong on this subject . More then a person who has never delt with it would . If a mother gets off welfare after getting a job should she then have to pay the state back everything ? Should workers who plant closes and they loose everthing and go bankrupt should they also still have the burden of paying back never to give them a chance to ever get ahead ? Or are you completley against any form of forgiveness? No matter what the circumstance . Should we have no form of welfare for the crippled or mentaly ill or elderly ? Should children whos parents cant aford food starve cause fuck em the should not of been born ?
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No. While she was let out of the lease, she still had a loan.
You're very slow. The lease was not the issue. The loan payment was not the issue. The issue was that it would take another loan, to buy the place and she was already committed with the first loan. She could not secure a second loan. Pretty simple.
It has nothing to do with me or anybody else making good on their debt. You said all people that file BK are immoral. You hold that position, as ridiculous as it is, because you painted yourself in a corner by saying it in order to demonize one person. So, when I give examples of moral people having to file, you are stuck in the ridiculous position of having to disparage grandmas and veterans for their misfortunes.
In short, you have found yourself demonizing people that have had misfortune in order to thick headedly stick to a narrative. That, my friend, makes you dumb. And I'm enjoying watching you do it.
that's why you here to do the light lifting.
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If someone loses their job and collects unemployment, they paid into it over the years and there is no payback needed. That's a return of their own money.
If a worker whose plant closes gets laid off, what's to go BK on? Not business debt, they didn't own the business or it's debt. They collect unemployment based on their past 6 months average income and find another job.
I fortunately have no experience with bankrupcy. There are times I would have liked to take that way out but instead I paid my debt.
If a worker whose plant closes gets laid off, what's to go BK on? Not business debt, they didn't own the business or it's debt. They collect unemployment based on their past 6 months average income and find another job.
I fortunately have no experience with bankrupcy. There are times I would have liked to take that way out but instead I paid my debt.
Yep, the world we live in is not just black and white. There are many shades of grey in between.
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how enlightening you have no experince with bankrupcy and yet you feel for some obsure reason qualified to pontificate on it. endlessly ...stick to grammar dude...I think that's your strong suit ....what a joke.
It's not a problem with my math. It's a problem with your assumptions. You're fucking stupid.
She didn't get a loan for lease only. She got a loan for all business expenses. The lease was one part. Saying she could have paid off her loan at lease termination is just pure stupidity. Like I said from the beginning, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
Gezzz thats great advice you should of told people of Detroit that or when GM is the only plant in town and they close just get another job dont loose everything ! Oh what ....their are no jobs ? Well im a fuckin dumb ass i should of lived in a town with more GM plants ! Why do we have the rustbelt in this country ? Just get another job dummies !!! Man your right life is that simple and uncomplicated. Thank you ! We were all thinking now what ? Get another job! Shit right under our noses why hasnt someone thought of this before !!!!!!!!
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I don't see why you need a loan for a monthly lease payment when you have monthly income to cover if the business is run right.
If you are purchasing a property and that amounts to decades of income all at once, then you need a loan.
Once the lease is canceled, you are not obliged to make payments on the propery that you no longer use and you can pay off the 1st loan for the lease (makes no business sense but whatever).
At that point you can take another loan for the purchase of property if that's what you want to do or you can lease another propery.
If your grandma was still paying on the lease after she was asked to vacate the property, she and her business advisors are as slow as you accuse me of being.
Again, you brought your god damn grandma into this, I didn't lol. If you don't want people talking about your grandma, then don't bring her up to help you prove your point of why people don't have to pay their debt.
The conversation about trump and his bankruptcy making him immoral was not started by me. I commented on it and am the only one that wants to hang around this shit holes of a trump lovers thead. Go back a few pages and read it again to get yourself straightened out.
I still stand by if you take a loan you should pay it back.Yes, there are extraordinary circumstances, but the rest are just dirt bags that cheat others IMO.
yeah no shit ...I can only imagine what more wikileaks has they must be desperate they tried to assassinate that Assage in the embassy.I think AP is trying to get out in front of the story and do damge control....but honestly how much more proof do you need the hag had to steal a nomination running aginst one other person...just one person .... and he was suffering from dementia half the time...I swear if Trump wasn't running the proffesional political class would have had Jeb Bush blow his brains out the day before the election to make sure she got elected.
The dumb ass thinks that all there is to a business loan is a fucking lease payment.
you know the more you talk ....the more I understand why you are voting for a ineffectual,boring,drug dealer with a pedestrain mind....
yeah I guess grandma was charging people to sit in an empty cold room in the dark....imagine that.... and she still couldn't turn a profit....
No I was not talking to you and if I was I would have never seen this post…. You are doing well now but your state is not. Wait till the taxes hit over this heath care and EPA energy crap and FDA regs (if not stopped)hit the fan in the next eight years if the wrong person gets into office.
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I have seen reports that Obama Care programs will go up 17% + in California next year alone.
All I know of your grandmas lease is what you have divulged. Lease cost (wtf?) And expenses.
Yeah, I haven't fucked a lender by filing chapter 13. That's not to say that I don't know bankruptcy law.
well I suspect there's whole lots you never done...other than give free bussiness advice to people who didn't want it over the internet, but hey don't worry if the financial advice game doesn't work out for you ..you can always fall back on correcting peoples grammmar for free.
In business they will do it a lot of times to protect their other assets which will in fact save a lot of jobs of their employees…. It’s not just about him at that time, remember that.
Omg! Our taxes and over regulation of everything is just a shit show over here but I have left the California sun and fun before and always come back.
It's worth the absurd cost of living... for now I guess.
I am nowhere close to qualifying for obummer care so that's irrelevant to me
oh that's cool we don't need you we already have a resident idiot...the two of you might get in each other's way.....
That's why I say you are dumb.
I said she got a loan to cover all business expenses, including lease. You do this to cover slow periods. So, if you have a slow month you don't miss payments. You start with a business plan. You borrow based on that plan. The landlord changed the plan and she was already committed. Simple.
Omg! Our taxes and over regulation of everything is just a shit show over here but I have left the
I am nowhere close to qualifying for obummer care so that's irrelevant to me
But who is paying for it..... not them, it's you and me! I make a good living but over the last 10 years it has not went up like it used to and I'm getting older so it's getting harder to jump to a new job for the pay raise. Sad but true if you hit 50 and think you can just jump jobs for a raise like when you were younger it's not going to happen as fast as it used to.
Ok, I can see your point. But I guess to me that goes back to if you owe someone a dollar and fall on hard times to come back later... don't you pay that person their dollar back?
Guess not, that's the American way? Shouldn't be. It's become an acceptable way of conducting ones self but thats not me.
I hear ya, 43 here. The people that suck on our tit here in this state and the politicians that hand my tit to them pisses me off but do I move? Na.
I…. never have had bad credit in my life but to save my employees I would take one in the butt…. That’s a lot of people with families he was responsible for. Just saying it’s easy for someone that has had a government job their whole life to rip on that because they have an endless supply of money and will never go bankrupt, only problem is it’s our money!
I think a lot of us in this post are on the same page and have lived life we are just letting emotions get in the way.... Point is we all work for a living and some people in government want us to pay for the ones that don't and then tell us what to do/how to live. AND it's pissing us all off!
Well I came across this list that is interesting....now I know none of these people possess the same blinding bussiness acumen as you do nor the high moral standing,but still in and all it is interesting and I'm sure they could have used your advice.
a short list of people who have gone bankrupt.
Williiam Durant....founder of General Motors
Francis Ford Coppola
Stan Lee
Henry Ford
Walt Disney
M J Hienz the ketchup dude
Bob Guccione
and Abraham Lincoln....fucking dishonorable pikers.
If I rmember correctly Thoma Jefferson was over an estimated 1 million dollars in debt at the time of his death, the reason he never freed his slaves is that the state of Virginia wouldn't allow you to declare bankrupcy if you owned any slaves...the slaves would be siezed as assets and sold off and he didn't want to break up their families....so yeah another immoral fuck screwing his debtors over sure glad he never made it to the whitehouse...oh wait.
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