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Huckleberried

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You know this is so funny there are three of us sitting right here right now vaping both wl and vt that I just made 50/ 50 with my best selling cream I have and no difference in flavor or strength and both brands bought within two weeks of each other and both been stored the same way in the same place. The cream we are vaping is a very lite flavor all day vape. Both are very clear, no peppery smells at all. Us three agree all this is just pure nonsense. lol.
Based on the nic I got from WL at that time, that was my experience. I haven't had their nic in quite a while, so I can't say how their nic is these days. I'm happy with the nic I've been getting, so I've not felt the need to experiment anymore. The post you quoted of mine was from quite a while ago, so maybe the WL nic has improved since then. That was my experience then.
 

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Not completely...I have some from Totally Wicked that'll bomb your throat....lol! And got a batch from Nude once that tasted like pure pepper. That's in the freezer for emergencies only!
Yeah, I was involved in a group buy for liters of nic from a vendor I'd purchased from several times previously. Using a new process, they sent out a product that smelled like diesel fuel. All was replaced but sometimes things go awry.

ETA: I've never heard of anyone having a problem with VT and personal experience bears that out. :)
 

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I would love for the owner of VT to actually tell us the difference between the teo nics
 

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Some folks just can't afford a new car. ;)
 

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Every company has to provide a USP Nicotine Solutions chart. You simply compare charts. Should be listed with the solutions.
 

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Anytime you sell a drug and or chemical compound you are required to show a solutions chart.
 

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We are not talking about flavors we are talking about nicotine.
 

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Nicotine
Prescription drug, Over-the-counter drug

Nicotine is a potent parasympathomimetic alkaloid found in the nightshade family of plants and is a stimulant drug. Nicotine is a nicotinic acetylcholine receptor agonist, except at nAChRα9 and nAChRα10 where it acts as an antagonist. It i…
Nicotine is a potent parasympathomimetic alkaloid found in the nightshade family of plants and is a stimulant drug. Nicotine is a nicotinic acetylcholine receptor agonist, except at nAChRα9 and nAChRα10 where it acts as an antagonist. It is made in the roots of and accumulates in the leaves of the nightshade family of plants. Nicotine is found in the leaves of Nicotiana rustica in amounts of 2–14%, the tobacco plant Nicotiana tabacum, Duboisia hopwoodii and Asclepias syriaca.
en.wikipedia.org · Text under CC-BY-SA license
 

Time

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Nicotine
Prescription drug, Over-the-counter drug

Nicotine is a potent parasympathomimetic alkaloid found in the nightshade family of plants and is a stimulant drug. Nicotine is a nicotinic acetylcholine receptor agonist, except at nAChRα9 and nAChRα10 where it acts as an antagonist. It i…
Nicotine is a potent parasympathomimetic alkaloid found in the nightshade family of plants and is a stimulant drug. Nicotine is a nicotinic acetylcholine receptor agonist, except at nAChRα9 and nAChRα10 where it acts as an antagonist. It is made in the roots of and accumulates in the leaves of the nightshade family of plants. Nicotine is found in the leaves of Nicotiana rustica in amounts of 2–14%, the tobacco plant Nicotiana tabacum, Duboisia hopwoodii and Asclepias syriaca.
en.wikipedia.org · Text under CC-BY-SA license
That doesn't say a thing about vendors supplying a chemical compound chart.
 

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Dude when ever you buy a prescription drug you get one with it.
 

Time

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Reread the above//////// Legal status: Over-the-counter drug · Prescription drug
*sigh* Over the counter drug.

We are not buying a prescription drug at a pharmacy. We are buying an over the counter drug.

You don't get a chemical compound chart if you buy over the counter ibuprofen. You do get a chemical compound chart if you buy prescription ibuprofen from the pharmacist.

I can't fix you if you can't see the difference. Have a good day.
 

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Every time I have ever bought nic on line from every company I got one. And if you go to a legit site that sells it they have one.
 

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Google it man I'm not going to waist anymore time but here is one from a poplar company.


USP Nicotine Solutions

Product Name: Organic Nicotine Solution
Chemical Formula: C10H14N2
CAS#: 54-11-5
Color: Clear to Pale Yellow
Chemical Name: Nicotine
Synonyms: (-)-Nicotine; L-Nicotine; S-(-)Nicotine; (S)-Nicotine; (-)-3-(Methyl-2-pyrrolidyl)pyridine;(S)-3-(1-Methyl-2-pyrrolidinyl)pyridine; 1-Methyl-2-(3pyridyl)pyrrolidine; 3-(NMethylpyrrolidino)pyridine; beta-Pyridyl-alpha-Nmethylpyrrolidine

USP grade Organic Nicotine extract minimum >99.8% diluted in a carrier base of Propylene Glycol and/or vegetable derived Glycerin for research and product applications. The nicotine base used exclusively in Wizard Labs line of solutions undergoes extraction 5-6 times per year in partnership with one of the providing labs to Johnson & Johnson's global line of NRT products for the assurance of chemical purity, quality control, and reliability. Ingredients: Pure USP grade organic nicotine extract, USP grade Kosher certified Propylene Glycol and/or USP grade Kosher certified vegetable Glycerin carrier base fluid. Wizard Labs nicotine solutions contain no other preservatives or chemical additives.

Wizard Labs is committed to providing the highest quality organic nicotine extract solutions for independant research and product applications. All of our concentrated Nicotine solutions are intended for use by trained and qualified personnel only.
 

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Google it man I'm not going to waist anymore time but here is one from a poplar company.
LOL. They also post reviews. Are those a requirement also?

Check it out Bub. There isn't even a requirement that the nic be USP grade. You can buy any ol' nicotine you want. That stuff is posted on vendor sites for marketing. To show quality. Not because it's required. Keep shopping and you'll find plenty of nasty cheap nicotine that makes no claim to being USP grade.
 

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I'm guessing steve must have felt the need to contribute his opinion here Gotta guess 'cause I can't see him with the Ignore option.

You feedin' the trolls, Time? :D
 

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I'm guessing steve must have felt the need to contribute his opinion here Gotta guess 'cause I can't see him with the Ignore option.

You feedin' the trolls, Time? :D
LOL. Not this time. It's not steve. I think wally is just mistaken.
 

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Oh ... that's an understandable mistake. 'He's a non-entity to me as well. 'Made a concession publicly and told me just the opposite in private conversation. That was enough for me.

Regarding the VT TH nic liquid, I believed you correct some time ago. Dunno why you bother to argue about it. Your statement made sense early on that it's on sale 'cause it's past the pull date. :)
 

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Regarding the VT TH nic liquid, I believed you correct some time ago. Dunno why you bother to argue about it. Your statement made sense early on that it's on sale 'cause it's past the pull date. :)
It's not that I want to argue about it. I answered a question nobody else would answer.


So what makes it give off that stronger of a TH anyway?

I've had it in my cart a few times in the past without pulling the trigger.
Somebody on this forum should give a direct answer. I know I appreciate direct answers. I can't help it if the vendor is exalted here and someone always challenges it when I state a simple fact. I will always clarify my answer.
 

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I have never tried MFS and sounds like I'm not missing anything.
I have a liter of MFS nic that I have had over a year in the freezer that I pull off of into a 120 ml bottle and its good stuff. I highly, highly, highly recommend where ever you buy nic from to get VG. I used to get PG when I first started DIYing back in 2011 and the pepper bandit would pop up about 50% of the time but ever since I went to VG it keeps so much better for me in freezer and out.

It must be a thickness issue that slows the oxidation down is the only thing I can think of. Probably a year and a half on my bottle at this point and its just ever so slightly off white when holding it up in front of the freezer wall or paper and simply smells like every other bottle of fresh nic I opened. You honestly can not even tell it is slightly tinted unless you hold it up to something white.
 

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It's not that I want to argue about it. I answered a question nobody else would answer.
Nor did I mean to imply that you were argumentative. It seemed that others didn't agree with your answer on the issue while I'm one who thought is was logical and substantiated by VT. Sorta. But still , the TH nic I received was of remarkable quality and for $25 a liter, I can't complain. :)
 
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Nor did I mean to imply that you were argumentative. It seemed that others didn't agree with your answer on the issue while I'm one who thought is was logical and substantiated ny VT. Sorta. But still , the TH nic I received was of remarkable quality and for $25 a liter, I can't complain. :)
There is nothing wrong with $25 per liter nicotine as long as the buyer understands why it's $25.

I do have some interesting information about nicotine "quality" as it pertains to different vendors(one nicotine vendor being better quality than another) that I have not shared on the open forum because I don't want to argue about it if you're interested. Just send me a PM.
 

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I have a liter of MFS nic that I have had over a year in the freezer that I pull off of into a 120 ml bottle and its good stuff. I highly, highly, highly recommend where ever you buy nic from to get VG. I used to get PG when I first started DIYing back in 2011 and the pepper bandit would pop up about 50% of the time but ever since I went to VG it keeps so much better for me in freezer and out.

It must be a thickness issue that slows the oxidation down is the only thing I can think of. Probably a year and a half on my bottle at this point and its just ever so slightly off white when holding it up in front of the freezer wall or paper and simply smells like every other bottle of fresh nic I opened. You honestly can not even tell it is slightly tinted unless you hold it up to something white.
I keep my bulk in the freezer and the nic i use daily in the fridg.
 

AmandaD

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Have you had any problems keeping the daily used nic in the fridge? Or does it help slow down the oxidation?
LIke others, I keep my working solution in the fridge and my other nicotine in the freezer! Yes, it slows down odixization.
 

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In my email inbox today....
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VAPERS TEK NICOTINE
IS CURRENTLY BEING HELD BY FDA CUSTOMS.
HAVE MORE ON ORDER AND WILL LET EVERYONE
KNOW AS SOON AS WE HAVE BACK IN STOCK.
WE WILL ALSO BE DOING A SALE WHEN IT ARRIVES.
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Ron
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"The signposts are in English so that we may read them more easily, but the place is the Twilight Zone."- Rod Serling
 

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In my email inbox today....
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VAPERS TEK NICOTINE
IS CURRENTLY BEING HELD BY FDA CUSTOMS.
HAVE MORE ON ORDER AND WILL LET EVERYONE
KNOW AS SOON AS WE HAVE BACK IN STOCK.
WE WILL ALSO BE DOING A SALE WHEN IT ARRIVES.
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Ron
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"The signposts are in English so that we may read them more easily, but the place is the Twilight Zone."- Rod Serling
got the same email and laughed. I suspect after the "sale" prices will go up
 

Frankm

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Omg, no I couldn’t stand to read that crap.

I’ll late ordering nic. I went to purchase premium vt nic, and everything is out of stock.

Anyone have a suitable alt nic supplier?
 

txgirl3eb

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When 'vendors' nicotine is 4 years past the expiration date on their supposed COA's I shouldn't even have to chime in as a pharmacist of 30 years, even a 5 year old can figure it out. But this is one of the reasons it will become illegal to sell to the public even diluted down to 100mg per ml because of these irresponsible 'vendors' many of whom anyone can get it, store it in homes that God only knows what or where it is actually stored, rebottled by hand - are they even using sterile equipment, bottles, or just sneezing into it over their kitchen sink. I guess most don't really care, but I do. And yes you have to provide the msds and coa's for nicotine and should be updated when its expired, if it's a website oversight to update their paperwork, ok, think...if even that cannot be done, then what kind of care is the actual chemical getting? I don't apologize for caring.
 

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When 'vendors' nicotine is 4 years past the expiration date on their supposed COA's I shouldn't even have to chime in as a pharmacist of 30 years, even a 5 year old can figure it out. But this is one of the reasons it will become illegal to sell to the public even diluted down to 100mg per ml because of these irresponsible 'vendors' many of whom anyone can get it, store it in homes that God only knows what or where it is actually stored, rebottled by hand - are they even using sterile equipment, bottles, or just sneezing into it over their kitchen sink. I guess most don't really care, but I do. And yes you have to provide the msds and coa's for nicotine and should be updated when its expired, if it's a website oversight to update their paperwork, ok, think...if even that cannot be done, then what kind of care is the actual chemical getting? I don't apologize for caring.
Was this in reference to Vaportek?

Just curious really. I stopped using them a while back after their shipping cost went through the roof, but still check in from time to time to see if that's changed.
 

txgirl3eb

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There was a couple of vendors that I've noticed but I didn't want to specifically name them. I checked back on their sites and they have since updated their COA's on their nicotine, but their VG/PG COA's are still expired....for what it's worth. I think this is due to the fact that I sent them messages about their expired COA's and have put up current ones. But I always check every vendors' COA's because I don't want to get old/expired product especially if I'm going to be storing it in my freezer for upto a year and it's already expired. Hope this helps.
 

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In today's email In Basket...
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The Vapers Tek Team would like to let all of our customers know.

We have lowered our pricing of Nicotine.

Wholesale Nicotine
  • Sourced from the EU
  • in either a PG or VG base
  • 100mg/mL concentration
  • USP/EP pharmaceutical grade
  • All Nicotine is mixed and sealed in an inert atmosphere reducing oxygen exposure prior to your use
  • It is recommend that you store your nicotine in the Refrigerator or freezer.
Premium Nicotine
  • Sourced from the EU
  • in either a PG or VG base
  • 100mg/mL concentration
  • USP/EP pharmaceutical grade
  • All Nicotine is mixed and sealed in an inert atmosphere reducing oxygen exposure prior to your use
  • It is recommend that you store your nicotine in the Refrigerator or freezer.
Throat Hit Nicotine
This is the Nicotine for those of you who like a kick with your hit!

  • in either a PG or VG base
  • 100 mg/mL concentration
  • USP pharmaceutical grade
  • It is recommend that you store your nicotine in the refrigerator or freezer.
Thank you!

VapersTek.com Team
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When I checked, I found...
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1 Liter EU Sourced Nicotine (100 mg USP/EP)
$79.99
 

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now that is much more reasonably priced in comparison to other brands. Because I do think their nic is just a bit better then other brands but not double to triple the price better
 

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I may pick up a couple more liters of the throat hit nic. $45 is a little bit more than the $25 price tag from a couple years ago, but no one is selling nicotine of this quality that low right now, promise ya.
 

RonJS

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now that is much more reasonably priced in comparison to other brands. Because I do think their nic is just a bit better then other brands but not double to triple the price better
Mixing for myself @ 16mg, (and since they are both https://chemnovatic.com/ based,) I continue to not be able to tell the difference between VT Premium and Heartland Ultra Premium. The last liter of Heartland Ultra Premium I bought on sale was around $65. (and included no additional Shipping charge)
 

Frankm

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I purchase a liter after i received the email, and the shipping cost has dropped as well.
 

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BCF dropping a few very important (to me) of INW's Tobacco Absolute flavors, and Vaperstek stocking them now, gave me the impetus to finally get around to purchasing some of their nic. Curious how it will compare to Chemnic's from a year ago, which I think is quite good. Half a liter of their throat hit for $23, and half a liter of their premium for $33. Plus they have good prices on 30ml bottles of the INW flavors. Looking forward to receiving the goodies. Shipping was reasonable, all in all a good deal.
 

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Shipping was reasonable, all in all a good deal.
For the longest, I stopped ordering from them because of the shipping charges. I'd gotten a handful of the 2ml samples of German Flavors, maybe 8 of them, but had to pay for priority shipping. They'd all have fit nicely in an envelope and I think I paid two bucks more for the product than I did shipping. o_O
 

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Are you all storing the nick in glass in the freezer or in the containers they come in from them? Looks like they are plastic and I want to justify the price over Nic Rivers that has been working great for me?
 

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Are you all storing the nick in glass in the freezer or in the containers they come in from them? Looks like they are plastic and I want to justify the price over Nic Rivers that has been working great for me?
If you're purchasing in large enough quantities that it'll last you more than 6 months or so, you should be in the habit of transferring the nic you purchase into glass bottles for long term storage.

The later question depends a lot on the sensitivity of your palette, and what nic level you use. And also your level of curiosity as to what you might be missing from trying a different brand of nic.
 

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