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I finally took the plunge and started mixing my own juice. I copy catted eight different recipes today. Two out of the eight called for Sucralose. The sucralose I have is clear as can be, however the two juices I used it in are cloudy. The other six are clear to Amber in color, not opaque at all. Is the cloudiness normal?
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I finally took the plunge and started mixing my own juice. I copy catted eight different recipes today. Two out of the eight called for Sucralose. The sucralose I have is clear as can be, however the two juices I used it in are cloudy. The other six are clear to Amber in color, not opaque at all. Is the cloudiness normal?
Thanks in advance for any help!

Not normal for Sweeteners, where did you get the sucralose from, as some of the stuff you get from the store might have "other things" added.
 

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Not normal for Sweeteners, where did you get the sucralose from, as some of the stuff you get from the store might have "other things" added.
I got it from nude nicotine.
 

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How did you mix them? Power mixers make cloudy e-Liquids and I heat to 140 degrees for an hour or less to speed aging and infusion.
 

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I finally took the plunge and started mixing my own juice. I copy catted eight different recipes today. Two out of the eight called for Sucralose. The sucralose I have is clear as can be, however the two juices I used it in are cloudy. The other six are clear to Amber in color, not opaque at all. Is the cloudiness normal?
Thanks in advance for any help!
Juice shouldn't generally be opaque - although anise does make juices cloud somewhat.
 

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I had mostly fruity cream mixes, one was a pumpkin cheese cake. I shook them all by hand in new clean 15 or 30 ml bottles. Maybe I'll just let them set over night and see how it goes.
 

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I had mostly fruity cream mixes, one was a pumpkin cheese cake. I shook them all by hand in new clean 15 or 30 ml bottles. Maybe I'll just let them set over night and see how it goes.

See if they settle down!
 

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We will see what happens so far everything has turned out but it is very cloudy.


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Lol. That's my husband. He's my Guinea pig.
Thanks for all the input everyone!
 

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Since it has been an hour I bet the e-Liquids have already started clearing if it is what I thought.
 

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Since it has been an hour I bet the e-Liquids have already started clearing if it is what I thought.
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nope. It's been a couple hours now. we shall see in the morning.
 

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Take one put it in a cup of Hot Tap water not over a 150 degrees. I bet it will clear very fast. You never said what you used to mix. Infusion takes time and heat speeds up the process especially with High VG mixes.

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I shook it up by hand. Nothing fancy. I will try the hot water. Thank you for your help.
 

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Just the other day I did a Coconut which was a white cloudy finished product after mixing with a battery mixer. One hour tap water and cleared right up shaking in between when refilling hot water.
 

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Tried the hot water to no avail. Still cloudy. It should still be ok to vape right? The visual consistency just isn't too appealing..
 

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I see you used the sucralose and a quick Google search came up with that causing cloudiness and requiring a few days to infuse or clear up. So time is required.

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Thanks Steve! I'll wait it out.
 

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Hope ot clears up for you. BTW, congrats on taking the DIY plunge! Welcome to the rabbit hole!:ejuice:
 

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I am surprised that heat did not speed up the process though. Maybe you did not maintain a temperature of 140 degrees at least?

I came back to this thread to see how the last 8 hours has affected the clarity if any and noticed my last comment never went.
 

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I will post a pic after I get home to see the progress. Thanks for the help Steve. Much appreciated.
 

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it appears some of the cloudiness has lifted. But after a small taste test... So far it's a fail. Ugh. So.. So bad. Like really bad. Horrible even. There's no amount of steeping that will fix this. Lol. I've had success with five out of eight so far. I think I will stick to tried and true recipes for a while. I made a unicorn milk clone, muffin man clone, mega melons clone and a marshmallow man clone which has a real strong custard taste so far. The peach cheesecake will need a good steep. Keeping my fingers crossed on that one.
 

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A Strawberry Cheesecake that I made took some extra time to clear but the taste could be that it is Pumpkin Flavored.
 

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A Strawberry Cheesecake that I made took some extra time to clear but the taste could be that it is Pumpkin Flavored.
I think my % was off on that one. If I recall the recipe called for 7% pumpkin velvet (nude nicotine) and 2% cheese cake graham (tfa). I'm new to mixing so the percentages, as far as how strong flavors will be, don't make a whole lot of sense to me yet. Still have a lot to learn.
 

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I got that cloudy appearance a couple of times when I first started out, it eventually went away but it took longer than a week. Turns out I used to much of the flavoring, both were Inawera flavors. Neither one tasted good as well even after the cloudiness went away.

Never tried nude nic's flavors but I know there extracted in VG and ethyl alcohol. I am learning from experience with Real Flavors VG based flavors that they need a lot more steeping than traditional PG based flavors. We are talking about 1 to 4 weeks steeping time so patience with VG based flavors is a requirement.

DIY e-juice is a lot of fun though and I don't miss buying overpriced juice anymore.
 

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I think my % was off on that one. If I recall the recipe called for 7% pumpkin velvet (nude nicotine) and 2% cheese cake graham (tfa). I'm new to mixing so the percentages, as far as how strong flavors will be, don't make a whole lot of sense to me yet. Still have a lot to learn.

You must use a calculator especially with Nicotine.
 

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This is my favorite calculator: http://diyjuicecalculator.com/

Keeps track of your stock, makes labels, can list as many ingredients as you want, shows you the cost of the mix you just made, it slices, it dices and can make an entire meal for your family in just 30 seconds..........OK, those last 3 may not be included.....lol.

It really is a great calculator though and the author makes improvements along the way.
 

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With DIY flavors sometimes more is less and less is more. That is the trial and error part that also has to do with personal preferences and tastes.

I use these

https://ecigvape.com/#top
 
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This is my favorite calculator: http://diyjuicecalculator.com/

Keeps track of your stock, makes labels, can list as many ingredients as you want, shows you the cost of the mix you just made, it slices, it dices and can make an entire meal for your family in just 30 seconds..........OK, those last 3 may not be included.....lol.

It really is a great calculator though and the author makes improvements along the way.
I use that site for recipes. Pretty cool how you can keep an updated list of flavors and it will provide recipes you have all the flavors for.
I really appreciate all the tips and advice from everyone.
 

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We mixed up 6 new flavors tonight. Can't wait to give them all a try.
 

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I think my % was off on that one. If I recall the recipe called for 7% pumpkin velvet (nude nicotine) and 2% cheese cake graham (tfa). I'm new to mixing so the percentages, as far as how strong flavors will be, don't make a whole lot of sense to me yet. Still have a lot to learn.
If anything, I've found Nude's flavor recommendations to be on the strong side - their extracts are plenty potent, and do require the heat bath/shaking routine more than others to integrate due to the VG base. Give them time, maybe back off on the concentration a bit, and you should be in better shape. Welcome to both you and @notownkrawler (hoping that's an off-road reference from a quad/ZJ guy) to the world of DIY.
 

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If anything, I've found Nude's flavor recommendations to be on the strong side - their extracts are plenty potent, and do require the heat bath/shaking routine more than others to integrate due to the VG base. Give them time, maybe back off on the concentration a bit, and you should be in better shape. Welcome to both you and @notownkrawler (hoping that's an off-road reference from a quad/ZJ guy) to the world of DIY.
Thanks Dave! I may just add more VG to that mix to try and mellow out the flavor.
And good call, @notownkrawler is a ZJ guy. He seems to collect them. Lol.
 

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If anything, I've found Nude's flavor recommendations to be on the strong side - their extracts are plenty potent, and do require the heat bath/shaking routine more than others to integrate due to the VG base. Give them time, maybe back off on the concentration a bit, and you should be in better shape. Welcome to both you and @notownkrawler (hoping that's an off-road reference from a quad/ZJ guy) to the world of DIY.
Love my ZJs


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I figured I'd share a couple recipes I've had success with so far.
My favorite so far has been strawberry fog:
Bavarian cream 3%
Cheesecake with graham 5%
Strawberry, ripe 10%
Vanilla custard 2%

Unicorn milk clone (oh so good)
Bavarian cream 4%
Cheesecake with graham 5%
Strawberry ripe 10%
Sweet cream 4%
Vanilla custard 3%

Muffin man clone
Apple pie 2%
Cinnamon Danish swirl 5%
Double Apple 4%

These so far have been my favorites out of everything we have made. Just want to share the wealth.
 

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I figured I'd share a couple recipes I've had success with so far.
My favorite so far has been strawberry fog:
Bavarian cream 3%
Cheesecake with graham 5%
Strawberry, ripe 10%
Vanilla custard 2%

Unicorn milk clone (oh so good)
Bavarian cream 4%
Cheesecake with graham 5%
Strawberry ripe 10%
Sweet cream 4%
Vanilla custard 3%

Muffin man clone
Apple pie 2%
Cinnamon Danish swirl 5%
Double Apple 4%

These so far have been my favorites out of everything we have made. Just want to share the wealth.
Thank for not sharing my personal creation of deliciousness!


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Thanks Dave! I may just add more VG to that mix to try and mellow out the flavor.
And good call, @notownkrawler is a ZJ guy. He seems to collect them. Lol.
If your flavor is too strong, more base liquid will mellow it out - VG or PG. But if you have a target nic level, you'll want to add some to keep your levels constant. What I'm talking about it heat - it thins your liquid so shaking will blend it better.

ZJ collection? Intriguing...I've just got one (98 4.0) at the moment, but I've picked up a handful of XJs and sold them all within a week to cool kids willing to overpay.
 

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I figured I'd share a couple recipes I've had success with so far.
My favorite so far has been strawberry fog:
Bavarian cream 3%
Cheesecake with graham 5%
Strawberry, ripe 10%
Vanilla custard 2%

Unicorn milk clone (oh so good)
Bavarian cream 4%
Cheesecake with graham 5%
Strawberry ripe 10%
Sweet cream 4%
Vanilla custard 3%

Muffin man clone
Apple pie 2%
Cinnamon Danish swirl 5%
Double Apple 4%

These so far have been my favorites out of everything we have made. Just want to share the wealth.
Try this Unicorn Milk recipe and see if you like it.
its all Capella flavor concentrates
Nicotine juice 3%
PG dilutant 5.5%
VG dilutant 75%
Total base 83.5%
Butter Cream (CAP) 1.5%
Graham Cracker v1 (CAP) 0.5%
New York Cheesecake (CAP) 0.5%
Sweet Cream (CAP) 1.5%
Sweet Strawberry (CAP) 8.5%
Vanilla Bean Ice Cream (CAP)1%
Vanilla Custard v1 (CAP) 3%
 

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