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Well I might be able to do that. Reckon I could calculate it out. 6 mg + 18 mg = 24 mg, I'd need more VG to dilute that down further, I think.


I thought if you add lower and higher nic together, it ends up somewhere in between?


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I thought if you add lower and higher nic together, it ends up somewhere in between?


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Not if it's only nic being added to the same bottle without any additional PG or VG.
 

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But adding just a nicotine solution of all VG to a 70% PG and 30 % VG I'd need to dilute down the nicotine solution to get it "in line" with the lower nicotine juice. That then, may ruin the flavor of the juice, make it better or worse. *chuckles* Which might lead to asking 'what the fuck would you care?" And my response would be "exactly, so I can just go on vaping my own diy, save my money and find a free recipe online that might approximate the juice flavor that company makes that can be adjusted to 18 mg nicotine." To which there's likely a lot of head shaking given in reply, maybe some stern sighs and possibly a "boy, what are we going to do with you?" Then, I'll shrug and go keep on keeping on.

Also I might want to scuff out all these lines that keep on lining up around here. :) Lines lead to labels. Labels lead to hate. I hate to hate. So there's no debate, the lines I abate.
 
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Well I might be able to do that. Reckon I could calculate it out. 6 mg + 18 mg = 24 mg, I'd need more VG to dilute that down further, I think.

If you want to go for 18mg, and the juice already has 6mg in it, then you'd want to calculate how much nic you need to add to make a bottle of the size you have that contains 12mg nic, then add that much nic to it (after you make room in the bottle). That isn't exact, but it's close enough for gov't work.

Example, when I was vaping 6mg juice that was mixed using 100mg 50/50 nic, it took 2.07 gms of 100mg nic for 30 ml of juice. So I could have added 12mg EXTRA nic by adding another 4.14 gms.

Regardless of what your nic base is, if you use 100mg nic, that just plain isn't enough VG or PG to make a big difference in the overall ratio of your juice, and has only a tiny effect on the flavor.
 
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Does this apply to lower and higher mg juice in my tank?




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I would never add straight nic to your tank. It should always be added in a bottle with VG/PG.
If you are trying to increase the nic level... you would add the amount of nic needed to make that size bottle in the mg nic you are trying to achieve. You'll need a liquid combining calculator for this one... https://ecigvape.com/e-liquid-combining-calculator

For example your nic is 100mg/100%PG, you have a 100ml bottle of 3mg/70vg, and would like it to be 9mg...
you'll have to play with the ml amount of nic until the overall amount you want is reached. In this case it would take 6.7mls of 100mg nic to turn your 3mg bottle into a 9.09mg bottle.

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If you are just mixing two bottles of same juice that have different nic levels... for example
6mg + 12mg You add the 2 amounts then divide in half... this mix would = 9mg of nic.
 

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If you want to go for 18mg, and the juice already has 6mg in it, then you'd want to calculate how much nic you need to add to make a bottle of the size you have that contains 12mg nic, then add that much nic to it (after you make room in the bottle). That isn't exact, but it's close enough for gov't work.

Example, when I was vaping 6mg juice that was mixed using 100mg 50/50 nic, it took 2.07 gms of 100mg nic for 30 ml of juice. So I could have added 12mg EXTRA nic by adding another 4.14 gms.

Regardless of what your nic base is, if you use 100mg nic, that just plain isn't enough VG or PG to make a big difference in the overall ratio of your juice, and has only a tiny effect on the flavor.

Thank you. Thank God there are calculators online.
I think I’ll have to just start with a one-shot mixed with some flavorless 120ml juice I got. Till I get the hang of it. Sorry to be a PITA with this!


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If you want to go for 18mg, and the juice already has 6mg in it, then you'd want to calculate how much nic you need to add to make a bottle of the size you have that contains 12mg nic, then add that much nic to it (after you make room in the bottle). That isn't exact, but it's close enough for gov't work.

Example, when I was vaping 6mg juice that was mixed using 100mg 50/50 nic, it took 2.07 gms of 100mg nic for 30 ml of juice. So I could have added 12mg EXTRA nic by adding another 4.14 gms.

Regardless of what your nic base is, if you use 100mg nic, that just plain isn't enough VG or PG to make a big difference in the overall ratio of your juice, and has only a tiny effect on the flavor.

Cool. I'll need to recall this and start using the 100 mg base juice. That means I need to go through another whole 1 L of 18 mg juice though. *chuckles* That darn demon of convenience likes tripping us all up. I just figured keep it simple to what I use, knew there was this one reason I ought to have got 100 mg. Guess my train got derailed. :)

Yes, I've mixed with 100 mg before. Did it when wife's BIL had his big old leap into figuring out if he was going to run a juice/vape shop or not. Yes, i know where gloves and be extremely careful, wash hands like a surgeon which I already do anyway.
 
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Thank you. Thank God there are calculators online.
I think I’ll have to just start with a one-shot mixed with some flavorless 120ml juice I got. Till I get the hang of it. Sorry to be a PITA with this!


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You're not a PITA. Unless of course, you want to be. :) I'm the one that's the big PITA, know enough to be deadly but not got brain left to figure out diplomacy being the better part of something.
 

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I would never add straight nic to your tank. It should always be added in a bottle with VG/PG.
If you are trying to increase the nic level... you would add the amount of nic needed to make that size bottle in the mg nic you are trying to achieve. You'll need a liquid combining calculator for this one... https://ecigvape.com/e-liquid-combining-calculator

For example your nic is 100mg/100%PG, you have a 100ml bottle of 3mg/70vg, and would like it to be 9mg...
you'll have to play with the ml amount of nic until the overall amount you want is reached. In this case it would take 6.7mls of 100mg nic to turn your 3mg bottle into a 9.09mg bottle.

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If you are just mixing two bottles of same juice that have different nic levels... for example
6mg + 12mg You add the 2 amounts then divide in half... this mix would = 9mg of nic.

No, I bought a lot of different nic strength pre-made juice when I was first quitting. The urge is kicking in again after using 6mg for a while, so I started upping the nic in my tanks while vaping, but it wasn’t always great.
Like my body got used to 6mg, but wondered what happened to the cigs? I quit March 27, so I thought I was done with this!


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I've been rockin' 6mg unflavored today to give my taste buds a break from yesterday's flavor fest.
Gonna switch it up soon but have to pick from the plethora of new bottles I have. Thinking can be hard. :wait:
Vaping needs to be more like dinner, can't decide? Order Pizza! :giggle:

Hell yeah, I'd vote for that!

Just shut yer eyes and pick something! Lol
 

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@MyMagicMist and @Rhianne as far as PITAs go, both of you have some catching up to do to be in the big leagues.

Now don't get me wrong, we have some big-leaguers around here, but pardon my vernacular, y'all ain't them! :giggle:

It’s not like I go out of my way and all, y’know. Lol
I’m more of an unintentional one, which is kinda sad. ;)


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Nilla Cake and Tiramisu Cream

ETA: If I had any money, I would bet it all that there is FA Cookie in this Nilla Cake I mixed up. I'm gonna go check the recipe.

ETA2: I am wrong. Now I get to figure out what's in this recipe that tastes just like damn FA Cookie.
 
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It’s not like I go out of my way and all, y’know. Lol
I’m more of an unintentional one, which is kinda sad. ;)


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I see how it is, act as though you're not in any control, making it appear I am. :)

Well, I think VapingUnderground is better than ECF. Folks over there are so something that a person says anything and their all spoiling to fight, or cause some kind of trouble. Yet they continually remind you how friendly they are.
 

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I see how it is, act as though you're not in any control, making it appear I am. :)

Well, I think VapingUnderground is better than ECF. Folks over there are so something that a person says anything and their all spoiling to fight, or cause some kind of trouble. Yet they continually remind you how friendly they are.


Lol Well, it must be subconscious (What a great excuse!) :)

Ah yes, the friendly bunch over there. They’re a good resource for new quitters, which is important. But a new member can feel like an outsider there, friendliness or not. Some of the Vets are nice, though. But, it’s meant to be community not a clique.
 

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Lol Well, it must be subconscious (What a great excuse!) :)

Ah yes, the friendly bunch over there. They’re a good resource for new quitters, which is important. But a new member can feel like an outsider there, friendliness or not. Some of the Vets are nice, though. But, it’s meant to be community not a clique.

You can become an outsider quickly here too.


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You can become an outsider quickly here too.


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In the few days I’ve been here, it’s seemed friendlier. You dual forum, I guess? The things I didn’t like there were prolly personality dislikes with certain members and the somewhat restrictive attitude towards what you can say.

I’m sure you didn’t mean to sound threatening!
And a lot of the time I forget to put any emoticons after my comments, which usually have a bit of irony. (Dh rolls eyes)
 

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In the few days I’ve been here, it’s seemed friendlier. You dual forum, I guess? The things I didn’t like there were prolly personality dislikes with certain members and the somewhat restrictive attitude towards what you can say.

I’m sure you didn’t mean to sound threatening!
And a lot of the time I forget to put any emoticons after my comments, which usually have a bit of irony. (Dh rolls eyes)

My comment was made as a statement lol. I use both forums and haven’t had any issues on ECF like others report. VU has threads I like and ECF is the same.


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I see how it is, act as though you're not in any control, making it appear I am. :)

Well, I think VapingUnderground is better than ECF. Folks over there are so something that a person says anything and their all spoiling to fight, or cause some kind of trouble. Yet they continually remind you how friendly they are.

It would seem that place has gone to hell. Use to be pretty awesome way back in the day. Then became moderated by folks with a power trip. Now there's little moderation. If you haven't been a member since before 2015, you can't access the classifieds. New vapers get misinformation or get ragged on for buying the "wrong" setup. I recently saw someone argue a guy bought a crap atty that will never work. Others piled on. Funny, it's a very popular atty. Fearmongering galore "You can't use that wire unless you're in TC", false, or the you bought the "wrong batteries and will cause an explosion" to the girl who bought protected batteries and is using them on a very low power device @ 10w. She's likely pulling less than 5A.
I still try to help there when I can and like to keep up with a few who started vaping when I did. Some from this forum have figured out my user name over there I believe. lol

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One Hit Wonder's Muffin Man AKA: the coil killer
 

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My comment was made as a statement lol. I use both forums and haven’t had any issues on ECF like others report. VU has threads I like and ECF is the same.


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I pick up vibes and most of them were great there, for the most part. Except one very active chick I don’t like. You’d know her but I’m not mentioning names. I’ve been back there, since I like them, but I just wish they had a free speech policy.
I was thinking about it last week, and these two forums are sisters/siblings. Both are needed and have great points. I’m not against ECF, they helped me get off smokes. Huge gratitude to them, they helped me change my life.

Do I think Oliver needs to be around? Yes, it reflects badly on him but the members do a good job w/o him. I don’t wish to see either forum fade away, a thread there over the weekend made me realize that.

With what we’re facing with Deeming and bans, both forums are needed. I think some ppl at ECF think VU is like a Wild West border town; and some ppl here think ECF is over moderated and strict. Kind of a needed yin yang, imho.

So you intended to have a semi threatening tone?
 
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It would seem that place has gone to hell. Use to be pretty awesome way back in the day. Then became moderated by folks with a power trip. Now there's little moderation. If you haven't been a member since before 2015, you can't access the classifieds. New vapers get misinformation or get ragged on for buying the "wrong" setup. I recently saw someone argue a guy bought a crap atty that will never work. Others piled on. Funny, it's a very popular atty. Fearmongering galore "You can't use that wire unless you're in TC", false, or the you bought the "wrong batteries and will cause an explosion" to the girl who bought protected batteries and is using them on a very low power device @ 10w. She's likely pulling less than 5A.
I still try to help there when I can and like to keep up with a few who started vaping when I did. Some from this forum have figured out my user name over there I believe. lol

Back on topic:
One Hit Wonder's Muffin Man AKA: the coil killer


Lol. You’re not kidding about OHW Muffin Man. You could OD on SWEET while it kills your coils. Like the TruNic, though.

I think ECF is sporadically moderated now. One guy posted porn which surprised me a lot. (Didn’t seem the type to go off the rails like that.) Not sure what started it but I think he was telling someone to fuck off with it. Bad choice, though. So yeah, he moved on.

Advice to newbies is dicey, depends on who responds. Same here probably. But when it gets into geeky arguments about RDAs or MTL vs DL tanks, the OP doesn’t benefit. They want help quitting!! But they helped me quit, so mad props as they say.




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Lol Well, it must be subconscious (What a great excuse!) :)
Ah yes, the friendly bunch over there. They’re a good resource for new quitters, which is important. But a new member can feel like an outsider there, friendliness or not. Some of the Vets are nice, though. But, it’s meant to be community not a clique.

Actually subconsciousness is a valid excuse to murder. Ooops, damn there goes my alibi. ;) :p

But actually, having faced some mental health issues here, can speak to a dislike of subconsciousness causing problems. While on a particular medication I disassociated during sleep and woke up as a different person, still asleep myself but awake as someone else. Needless to say I contacted the doctor right away who agreed that was not what was intended and he took me off of it right then.

I'm doing "okay" now. I still wrestle with some anhedonia. I've also learned acceptance of it as being something I need to work at all my life. It's due in part to a medical issue. My brain didn't get wired quite properly. Also lack a sense of smell. Still an excellent tracker using other senses.

it’s meant to be community not a clique.

Yes, I do agree. Whereas over here we've all become something like family. We all seem to understand the world can often tell you "fuck you." We smile back and tell the world, "go fuck yourself." We do so because it at least means we still care enough to hope the world can love itself in order to fuck itself. We might often say it to one another too, as recognition of this deep caring we all seem to harbor. In our context it's not a nasty thing to say to each other. Rather it helps us remember, we survive.
 

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I’m on no coffee yet this morning, sorry if I jumped on your ass.

Damn it, ass jumping this early in the morning? I feel so left out. Now, I'm going to go make a .01 ohm coil and blow my face off. I'll tell all the news circuits I got the advice from television. Hell, they report on dumb asses vaping Tide pods.
 

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Damn it, ass jumping this early in the morning? I feel so left out. Now, I'm going to go make a .01 ohm coil and blow my face off. I'll tell all the news circuits I got the advice from television. Hell, they report on dumb asses vaping Tide pods.

Shit, my husband’s fave detergent is Tide!! Lol. I better watch him.

Cutting down on caffeine (since it was making me jumpy) is making me feel slightly strange. Only slightly, mind you. ;)


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Shit, my husband’s fave detergent is Tide!! Lol. I better watch him.

Cutting down on caffeine (since it was making me jumpy) is making me feel slightly strange. Only slightly, mind you. ;)


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I'm surprised you don't have a headache from cutting back on caffeine. I have a helluva headache when I do that.

@MyMagicMist I don't know why any of y'all thought you could do all this ass jumping without letting me know. If there's ass jumping going on, I wanna be part of it.

After the e-mail I got a half hour ago from my boss, which pissed me off mightily, I could do with some jumping, ass or otherwise. I might could do some upside-the-head jumping.
 

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Shit, my husband’s fave detergent is Tide!! Lol. I better watch him.

Cutting down on caffeine (since it was making me jumpy) is making me feel slightly strange. Only slightly, mind you. ;)


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Oh and while I'm at it, if your hubbs is gonna vape laundry soap, the very least he could do is vape the cheap shit. My two cents.
 

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I'm surprised you don't have a headache from cutting back on caffeine. I have a helluva headache when I do that.

@MyMagicMist I don't know why any of y'all thought you could do all this ass jumping without letting me know. If there's ass jumping going on, I wanna be part of it.

After the e-mail I got a half hour ago from my boss, which pissed me off mightily, I could do with some jumping, ass or otherwise. I might could do some upside-the-head jumping.


I did have a headache and there was no freaking aspirin, so I had two cups of coffee. My kicking caffeine will have to wait.

Just don’t break out any knives!! You can think ass kicking thoughts in their general direction. Lol


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Damn it, ass jumping this early in the morning? I feel so left out. Now, I'm going to go make a .01 ohm coil and blow my face off. I'll tell all the news circuits I got the advice from television. Hell, they report on dumb asses vaping Tide pods.

And moms that buy mechs. What idiot sells one to a mom who doesn’t vape? And then when it explodes, they look at vaping like it’s a menace. Fucked up. That could be a peeve.


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My comment was made as a statement lol. I use both forums and haven’t had any issues on ECF like others report. VU has threads I like and ECF is the same.


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So sorry, today kinda sucked until I guzzled some coffee. I missed this, or I wouldn’t have said anything. Ack.

I read an update on their Deeming Regs thread this week, and it seems that juice bottles are going to have to be child proofed soon. Could be really problematic for small companies. I was surprised to hear it. Did you see it there?


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So sorry, today kinda sucked until I guzzled some coffee. I missed this, or I wouldn’t have said anything. Ack.

I read an update on their Deeming Regs thread this week, and it seems that juice bottles are going to have to be child proofed soon. Could be really problematic for small companies. I was surprised to hear it. Did you see it there?


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No worries. I read something about it on Vaping360...in between all the other crap they post ha ha. I’ve gotten refill bottles that aren’t child proof but all the juice comes locked up tight, even the shop made juices came in the child proof bottles.


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No worries. I read something about it on Vaping360...in between all the other crap they post ha ha. I’ve gotten refill bottles that aren’t child proof but all the juice comes locked up tight, even the shop made juices came in the child proof bottles.


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I hate those bottles. I can’t open them without scissors or a knife.
I hate to really think about their being a ban. But I’m sure ppl thought that before prohibition.

I’ve read Vaping 360 a couple of times, but a lot of the news and reviews sites are similar, imho. But I was looking for gear back then, so I was skimming!
 

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I hate those bottles. I can’t open them without scissors or a knife.
I hate to really think about their being a ban. But I’m sure ppl thought that before prohibition.

I’ve read Vaping 360 a couple of times, but a lot of the news and reviews sites are similar, imho. But I was looking for gear back then, so I was skimming!

I hate those child proof caps too- My hubby has to take them off for me or I have to use a knife to break the seals on those.
Some are near impossible to open.
:gaah:
 

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