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Moueix

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I bought another liter of nic base today. I guess before August I need to buy some more. :(

Whoa, Whoa, Whoa!! Wait a second here. I haven't read the deeming regs yet, but how exactly does nicotine base, which I would think existed prior to 2007, fall under limitations of the deeming regs? Anyone?
 

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Whoa, Whoa, Whoa!! Wait a second here. I haven't read the deeming regs yet, but how exactly does nicotine base, which I would think existed prior to 2007, fall under limitations of the deeming regs? Anyone?

I like your point, but I'm thinking they will find a way. I really hope not, but I'm not holding my breath.
 

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okay, so you know how sometimes I have terrible ideas... and questionable judgment...

LOL... Yes?!?

Edit: You are right, it is a terrible idea. I have added some commentary of my opinions to the video so you will know how I feel about this idea. Watch it again, it isn't just Vanessa in the video now..

That Etoh I plan on sending? You may want to set some asside for cleaning purposes..
 
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pwheeler

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I haven't been on in a while - been busy. But, Mother F-ER!!!!!!! Today is a suck day for us!!!! GRRRRRRRRR
Glad to see you back! And, yes, it's a lousy day for us vapers. We're all talking about ways around all this mess. Mods and such are pretty well covered. Just nic base. Yes, 32 liters of 3mg. That would last me 5 years at 120ml per week if I keep up my current usage. So, 3 of them, I'd have enough until I'm an old fart.
 

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Glad to see you back! And, yes, it's a lousy day for us vapers. We're all talking about ways around all this mess. Mods and such are pretty well covered. Just nic base. Yes, 32 liters of 3mg. That would last me 5 years at 120ml per week if I keep up my current usage. So, 3 of them, I'd have enough until I'm an old fart.
I have 2 liters of 100ml nic in the freezer (thanks to Andria's warnings a while back) but it's the wta I'll really be screwed on. Guess I'll go cold turkey on that.
 

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Ok I have another liter of 100mg coming and some more pg/vg, 2 noisy crickets, a tres Equis clone, a lucifer clone, and 2 HoG v2 clones all on the way. Just need a couple more good RDAs and some more batteries and I think I'm ready for the apocalypse.

Where did you get the HoG clones?
 

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Dear all politicians who are either against vaping, or, are for vaping and don't have the balls to stand up for it:
Men politicians: May the fleas of a thousand camels, get under your armpits and eat all your hair.
Women politicians: May the fleas of a thousand camels, find your hidden balls and eat all your hair.
Have you meet Nasty yet:popcorn::teehee::teehee:
 

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I have 2 liters of 100ml nic in the freezer (thanks to Andria's warnings a while back) but it's the wta I'll really be screwed on. Guess I'll go cold turkey on that.

And that would be almost as hard as cold turkey off cigarettes -- you need to start weaning ASAP! It took me 15 months!

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And that would be almost as hard as cold turkey off cigarettes -- you need to start weaning ASAP! It took me 15 months!

Andria
I know. You warned me about THAT too but I did not take heed of said warning. :( WTF. Tried to get some from Aroma and they're sold out......
Guess I'll start a new habit. Like biting my fingernails or picking my nose......
 

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I know. You warned me about THAT too but I did not take heed of said warning. :( WTF. Tried to get some from Aroma and they're sold out......
Guess I'll start a new habit. Like biting my fingernails or picking my nose......

Have you looked at mothersmilkwta.com?

Andria
 

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Well yall, I was getting ready for work, loading the car and feeling horrible. Took my temp and was over 100 so called in and took a day. Will see what tomorrow looks like.

Was looking online at some of this FDA bullshit and its sounds like BT and BP wrote the regs and modeled it after Indiana's legislation. All vape shops must submit everything they sell for testing which can run a shop into the millions on testing cost. It just shows how easily our government can be bought.
I'm sure there will be tons of lawsuits over this but how much damge will already be done before anything can be done. That's the question.

I already have 2 1/2 liters of 100mg nicotine on hand and will pick up a couple more before the end of the month. That should last me a life time. VG &PG is used in a lot of other things so I do not see how they can regulate it for vaping but already planned on buying 4 more gallons soon. I'm on my last gallon now so need it anyways.

Face it guys, these new regulations have nothing to do with what is best for we the people. These regulations are all about what is best for the politicians. Its a proven fact that vaping is the best anti smoking device out there, and it has cost our politicians dearly in the form of tax revenues. It has cost big pharma millions on lost revenue and it has cost big tobacco billions in lost revenues.
 

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BTW, although I've tried to stay caught up with reading the forum today, this is really the first I've posted; I was much too depressed and didn't wanna bring everyone else down what with the FDA bullshit to deal with already, and when I said GFY, I didn't want to REALLY mean it. But I'm back in somewhat closer to my right mind, so... GFYs! You guys helped me a lot last night, but I woke up on the wrong side of the bed and mostly stayed there all day.

Andria
 

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No, but I will NOW. GEEZ! Why haven't I been here more? And paying attention!?!
Thanks yet again Andria......I owe you BIG time!

Nah you don't... I just hate to think of any of us having those ungodly cravings like I had after my appendectomy -- if not for WTa, I wouldn't ever have gotten smoke-free again and stayed that way.

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Face it guys, these new regulations have nothing to do with what is best for we the people. These regulations are all about what is best for the politicians. Its a proven fact that vaping is the best anti smoking device out there, and it has cost our politicians dearly in the form of tax revenues. It has cost big pharma millions on lost revenue and it has cost big tobacco billions in lost revenues.

Well yall, I was getting ready for work, loading the car and feeling horrible. Took my temp and was over 100 so called in and took a day. Will see what tomorrow looks like.

Face it guys, these new regulations have nothing to do with what is best for we the people. These regulations are all about what is best for the politicians. Its a proven fact that vaping is the best anti smoking device out there, and it has cost our politicians dearly in the form of tax revenues. It has cost big pharma millions on lost revenue and it has cost big tobacco billions in lost revenues.
Hope you feel better soon Choppy. You know, I ordered more nic gum last week as I cannot vape at work. It almost DOUBLED in price. Wonder if they had a "heads up" on the law changes. One must wonder.
Andria, thanks for the site. Just ordered enough wta to "wean" myself off as you did.
 

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Whoa, Whoa, Whoa!! Wait a second here. I haven't read the deeming regs yet, but how exactly does nicotine base, which I would think existed prior to 2007, fall under limitations of the deeming regs? Anyone?

I've been meaning to email wizard or one of the other "labs" to get their perspective. Have yet to do so though, need to though
 

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@chopdoc ,IMHO, you are correct! "We the People", are not the same "people" el gobierno is concerned about. It's a control thing, and unfortunately people, who view themselves as "intellectuals - AKA DUMB-FUCKS" are voting these assholes in.
 
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