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People who wind up like that are those who trust false info about batterys' amperage ratings -- the lower the resistance you use, the more amperage is needed, the CDR -- CONSTANT delivery rate, not just pulse amperage. They're also the idiots who do stupid shit like putting batteries loose in their pockets instead of carrying them in battery boxes. There's a guy with the username Mooch who regularly published FACTUAL info about batterys' real amperage; I can't recommend ECF, where he hangs out, but I think he also posts on Reddit. Don't believe any of that shit about 40A batteries -- there's no such animal. Or sometimes people buy "hybrid" mods, which apparently are VERY dangerous with some atomizers; I don't know a great deal about them, but I'd never own such a piece of crap! Basically folks who end up like that wildly overestimate their own intelligence, and treat high-amperage batteries like coppertop AA's.
It's very easy to build your own coils; you don't need anything except a drillbit (to wind the wire on), an ohm meter, and a screwdriver to mount the coil on the atomizer. Those basic supplies have served me well for over 3 yrs; none of that fancy shit like "kits" -- though my husband bought me a nice 3" vise to secure the atty base on while I'm mounting the coil, so I don't have to chase the silly thing all over the counter.
And you're right; it absolutely LIBERATES you, to build your own -- freedom from the vagaries of vendors, USPS, and even $$$, since buying wire and cotton is MUCH cheaper than buying pre-made coils, and the ones you build yourself are MUCH better quality and last longer.
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you could just wind it on a screwdriver like i saw in that video it might make it quicker using a drill but when i do it i dont think im going to be trying to rush it I'm probably going to take my time and enjoy doing my craft making multiple at a time but probably be disappointed when i run out of supplies cause that will mean fun time is over lol
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Oh, I don't use a drill -- I use a drillbit, because that way I know exactly the size of the inner diameter -- I use a 3/32 drillbit, which apparently is like 2.38mm (the only metric drillbits I can find are in kits, and I don't need EVERY size!).
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Yeah i happen to have a pair of old school calipers that can tell me nearly exact measurements inner diameter outer diameter etc. although im not sure if the diameter of a coil really applies to safety cause I haven't really looked into building so i wouldn't know that
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Well, on http://www.steam-engine.org/ it helps to know the inner diameter, to get an accurate resistance so you know how many wraps to give a given gauge of wire.
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i also misread the drillbit part lol i basically just thought it said drill because ive seen someone winding a coil with a drill bit although this guy was basically building a "hybrid" out of a pringles can like there was no regulation on it but it had some sort of power input control because he had an adjuster knob on the outside - this is the video
id also say this guy is an idiot but its not really like the thing could blow up in his face because theres no batteries but he could start an electrical fire
I will also say that even though I use mech mods they scare me. That is good in a way because of all the precautions I take. If you treat it this way then you will be less likely to have one exsplode. There is always a chance but I know this.
But I know many gun owners. The ones that get complacent and think that they are not dangerous are the ones that end up hurting themselves.
They're just way more temperamental with safety measures you have to take when you own and use one it's kinda like owning a lion it can be great if you tame it and treat it right but can turn on you at any moment with no given warning
But those mods are the ones that produce the serious clouds
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That used to be the case, but modern regulated mods will now accommodate super-sub ohm builds so you don't have to go mech to fog out if that is your desire
@amateur vaper if my memory serves me right that guy was using a towel to hold his Mech when vaping and using some year old coils or some shit. The picture may have went viral for a bit but never heard about his lawsuits and or anything else. Except I do believe he got a Darwin Award.
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Lol, like Tom said.... Down another rabbit hole of hobbyist land.
It's all I use, but I can't recommend research and the right supplies enough.
Still, it's a lot of fun, for some of us and most of those pipe bomb disasters are a result of carelessness.
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You're right. It was an Atlantis sub ohm tank on a hybrid mech mod.
It would have had a ton of warning with the most getting damn near molten hot before it went boom.
Just a prime sign of why not to use subohm tanks on hybrids.
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I'm pretty sure I heard if your using a mech the best way to go is an RDA dripper
Yeah my ipv3 the mod I just got puts out some good clouds at 70w with a .16 ohm octuple coil but I'd like for them to be even bigger lol I put it up to 100w and still isn't as strong as a mech with an RDA dripper equipped with a .1 or less coil
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Vaping that way borders on retarded death wish
It is highly probably someone will come in here and blah blah blah about how they do it perfectly safe - but actually that is numbskull territory
And I've been almost purely mech for a few years now
RTA's work very well on Mech's, that is as long as you know WTF you're doing as with all Mech's.
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I probly wouldn't go that low with how much power it would draw from a battery and how fast it would heat up I just seen a guy with a .80 ohm coil and he was putting out some heavy clouds it was in the post I made earlier that i quoted so if you were interested you wouldnt have to go looking for it
this shit makes me want to build my own coils because not only are you self sustainable it could be kind of a fun hobby cause i like building shit and making things also the cloudsyou can get from making your own can be huge if you build them right all while saving money.
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If you are a numbskull retard, you are a very nice one
Oh I know people do it - and I know a few that do; they have my respect but that is because they are blackbelt experts
Myself, I just don't like warm vapes - its a personal preference so will probably never go that route
Frankly, I don't care what people do but I do care about amateurs jumping on that bandwagon who end up turning their mods into pipe bombs
If you are a numbskull retard, you are a very nice one
Oh I know people do it - and I know a few that do; they have my respect but that is because they are blackbelt experts
Myself, I just don't like warm vapes - its a personal preference so will probably never go that route
Frankly, I don't care what people do but I do care about amateurs jumping on that bandwagon who end up turning their mods into pipe bombs
yeah i just tried puffing my mod at 100w and i got maybe a 1/3 of the way through my normal draw which is like 5-8 seconds when im trying to get the biggest cloud possible and it was like holy FUCK that is too hot on my throat lol probly be different though if it was a fresh coil 70 is a good spot right now for having puffed it roughly 750 times
If you are a numbskull retard, you are a very nice one
Oh I know people do it - and I know a few that do; they have my respect but that is because they are blackbelt experts
Myself, I just don't like warm vapes - its a personal preference so will probably never go that route
Frankly, I don't care what people do but I do care about amateurs jumping on that bandwagon who end up turning their mods into pipe bombs
I guess while I’m here, I’ll chime in. I run my mechs at exactly .12 No matter what type of coil. Also regulated mods outperform mechs by a long shot these days and do it safety. You do not need a mech to be a clouds bro.
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You should start building your own coils, it's rather a fun and rewarding hobby. For me it's the concentration on building something and reaping the rewards of what you yourself have made. Everything from Spinning Claptons, wrapping the coils to wicking it's a moment of Zen for me. I don't rush it 'cause I just escape to that place and it's relaxing. Will you screw up builds, of course you will but when you find that perfect build it's Nirvana .this shit makes me want to build my own coils because not only are you self sustainable it could be kind of a fun hobby cause i like building shit and making things also the clouds
Get yourself a basic build kit like one from Coilmaster, watch some YouTube's on building then have at it. Start out with basic builds, then move up to twisted and beyond. You'll find out what you like best then save shit loads of money and have a fun hobby.
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well then he was just looking for trouble I dont have a mech but even i know that would not be a good idea. if its getting that hot to where you have to use a towel to hold it, you should not own one because obviously your too stupid to realize if the vape is getting that hot, then the battery must be significantly hotter since its on the inside of the easy bake oven he had in his hand that he was putting up to his face LOL i guess he kinda deserved to be missing some teeth
I guess while I’m here, I’ll chime in. I run my mechs at exactly .12 No matter what type of coil.
Also regulated mods outperform mechs by a long shot these days and do it safety. You do not need a mech to be a clouds bro.
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well with my baby beast i dont think im out doing certain mech builds maybe if i had a different tank It'd be possible like if I had the cloud beast but im not sure I've only tried 2 of the smok coils so far the 40-130w variance coil was sold out but those were the ones i wanted
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Just to be clear, I am one of the few people around here who are not necessarily opposed to newbies using mechs
A lot of people lose their blub over it, but just because someone is new to vaping does not automatically mean they aren't smart enough to learn how to use one safely
Noooo...more wattage, bigger coils make bigger clouds, not the mod! And, you can make the biggest clouds most safely with regulated mods that hold more than one battery!
Edit: and with building coils in rebuildable decks
It Is a fun hobby, and nowadays you can actually buy premade coils very cheap, which is what I swapped to because when I build, I will rebuild, ans rebuild, and "ooh let me try vertical coils now" etc until I am all out of wire like I am right at this moment
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Once you decide to build your own you can make your coils to do anything you want really
even if I was really experienced im not sure i would want one because there will likely always be times where you learn something you didnt know before that could maybe make the difference between possibly seriously hurting yourself and not
50 likes for this, because it would take a big book to cover Everything, and there isnt one...and the moment a new style of mod, or wire, or atomizer etc comes out, the book might be missing an important piece of safety information.
There is a clone on Fasttech, for example, that was probably MEANT to not work at all (design intentionally leaked to cloners)
I recommend getting experience building, knowing how to build with different builds then targeting Volts not Watts will give you a good foundation before diving into Mech's.
With Mech's it's not "Clouds Bro" it's the quality of Vape. For me I get a much smoother and quality Vape with my Mech's then any regulated Mod can provide. But to achieve that you need to know WTF you're doing.Noooo...more wattage, bigger coils make bigger clouds, not the mod! And, you can make the biggest clouds most safely with regulated mods that hold more than one battery!
Edit: and with building coils in rebuildable decks
It Is a fun hobby, and nowadays you can actually buy premade coils very cheap, which is what I swapped to because when I build, I will rebuild, ans rebuild, and "ooh let me try vertical coils now" etc until I am all out of wire like I am right at this moment
If someone wants to be a "Clouds Bro" only then stick with regulated Mods.
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^^^^oh yeah
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It's vaping... Everyone loses their gord about something.
Rule of thumb with a newbie and mechs.
So long as you understand what you're doing and how to be safe.
It wasnt that long ago where you had no choice but to vape with one.
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i had a drs appointment earlier today and i asked the dr what he thought about vaping and he said if a patient was a smoker between smoking and vaping he would prefer they vaped instead of smoked even though theres not much research backing its safer the research that has been done shows its less harmful so its dr confirmed that vaping is the better method to get your nicotine fix, suck on that big tobacco
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I did the cigalike, pen then provari a few weeks in. A Month later the provari went to the shop and I got a mech.
That mech is 5 years old now and still works.
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My REO is almost three - happen to be vaping it right now
Just tell him to check out the National Healthcare site of the UK, it's about the only place you'll find actual peer reviewed and legit studies. That and tell him to check out what the Royal College of Physicians position is since they're the top Medical Science organization in the world that started the charge against Tobacco back in the late 50's. Oh and they've only been around for 500 years
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My first setup was my buddy's old EGO with some tank from aspire, not sure on the name of the tank though. I liked it, but quickly went to the istick GS air 2, it was nice but not for me so I checked out the I just 2 sub ohm, and fell in love with sub ohm. It wasn't till ~7 months ago that I got a regulated setup with the g priv and Big baby. Recently got a freemax fireluke, and am real happy with it, though wide open is too airy for me. Now I'm looking at the Kaos spectrum, and thinking it could be a new home for the big baby, cause the fireluke has all but kicked him off the g priv.
Some RTA's are fine but most all tanks that use factory coils are a BIG NONO on mechs.
The biggest danger with mechs aside from crap batteries is the Hybrid style top ones.
That is the type that just has a threaded hole in the top for the atomizer to screw into and the bottom of the atomizer comes into direct contact with the top of the battery. Those are the types that like to go boom the most with subtanks on them.
That is the type that just has a threaded hole in the top for the atomizer to screw into and the bottom of the atomizer comes into direct contact with the top of the battery. Those are the types that like to go boom the most with subtanks on them.
I am still vapin on a Kanger 50W Kbox mini for over 2 years now.
Still fine, a few scratches and such.
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Jealous there.. I sold my reos
Really wish I didn't do that.
Sold my provaris too.... REALLY glad i did that.
I've kept every other mech I've bought though, and sold almost all my regulated mods too.