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I've been a member of ECF since Jan 2010 and have over 3,000 posts there.

I've not been banned and I've only received one warring in all my time there.

I one warning I received was for 'buying and selling outside of the classifieds section' There was a new member who had not been verified. He was short on cash and didn't have a PV. I offered to send him something I never use for free and I would even pay for shipping. My post was deleted and I was warned.

About a year ago it started getting bad with the clicks and gangs that have taken the place over. Some members are allow to hurl personal attacks, put downs and name calling because they are friends with the moderators. This empowers these members to continue acting poorly because they know there is no backlash.

In my time there I've seen members, who are not in the click, gang, or friends with moderators, get banned and railroaded for far less that what these 'in the click with the moderators' members have done and said. Recently it's getting to the point of no return. It's only about 10 or so members (that I've noticed) but they operate with impunity and they know they can do as they please all the while their moderator buddies look the other way.

I'm not really interested in dropping names or calling people out as that's not really the point of my post. I see there are plenty of ECF horror stories here and the names that have popped up in them are similar to the ones I have seen as being in a click and / or out of control.

I'm looking for a new place to hang my hat as I'm pretty fed up with the crap, clicks and gangs that roam ECF.

Thanks for letting me vent and I've clicked the donate to the forum button. Hope that helps with the server fees! :)
 
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Welcome! I was another of the folks that managed to keep my nose (mostly) clean, but got sick of seeing some of the BS pulled on others...don't think I'm banned, but haven't bothered to log in in 7-8 months to check.
 

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I got a warning this morning for asking the question " did anyone ever call you a twit?" its just a question... not an insult, not aimed at anyone... and bam a warning.... yup.. its gone too far...
 

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Those fuckin TWITS:D

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I've been a member of ECF since Jan 2010 and have over 3,000 posts there.

I've not been banned and I've only received one warring in all my time there.

I one warning I received was for 'buying and selling outside of the classifieds section' There was a new member who had not been verified. He was short on cash and didn't have a PV. I offered to send him something I never use for free and I would even pay for shipping. My post was deleted and I was warned.

About a year ago it started getting bad with the clicks and gangs that have taken the place over. Some members are allow to hurl personal attacks, put downs and name calling because they are friends with the moderators. This empowers these members to continue acting poorly because they know there is no backlash.

In my time there I've seen members, who are not in the click, gang, or friends with moderators, get banned and railroaded for far less that what these 'in the click with the moderators' members have done and said. Recently it's getting to the point of no return. It's only about 10 or so members (that I've noticed) but they operate with impunity and they know they can do as they please all the while their moderator buddies look the other way.

I'm not really interested in dropping names or calling people out as that's not really the point of my post. I see there are plenty of ECF horror stories here and the names that have popped up in them are similar to the ones I have seen as being in a click and / or out of control.

I'm looking for a new place to hang my hat as I'm pretty fed up with the crap, clicks and gangs that roam ECF.

Thanks for letting me vent and I've clicked the donate to the forum button. Hope that helps with the server fees! :)


I noticed this about ther Vape Pit, which has a reputation as being full of cretins that just get their rocks off abusing people from a distance that won't get their asses kicked....There is defintely a gang of people there that do that,but then there are alot of people there the majority who don't....it's the assholes that destory it for everybody else.
 

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Welcome! I was another of the folks that managed to keep my nose (mostly) clean, but got sick of seeing some of the BS pulled on others.
Yep!! That's how I got here, too. I remembered reading about VU before it went live, then was invited to join by a friend. Been here since. :)
 

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I just about fell out of my chair the other day when I got a notice from ECF telling me that I had won some kind of Trophy or something.

Especially as I have not posted their in at least 6 months!
 

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me too.....what they hell is a trophy.what can you do with it....does it give me a free pass to tell the moderator of my choice what a noxious stupid asshat they are.
 

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Can relate. Have a bunch of likes.
 

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I noticed this about ther Vape Pit, which has a reputation as being full of cretins that just get their rocks off abusing people from a distance that won't get their asses kicked....There is defintely a gang of people there that do that,but then there are alot of people there the majority who don't....it's the assholes that destory it for everybody else.
I don't mind VapePit. Yes it's like the wild wild west over there but as long as you know that in advance, you should be fine. It's also not really a place for new vapers, in my opinion. When I joined there, it was by invite only and they did have a large warning banner..

The issue I see at ECF is that if someone is a real life, or an online friend with a moderator they can do as they wish with complete impunity. If someone who is not buddy, buddy with a moderator(s) were to post the same stuff that they do, they'd be warned or banned in an instant!

There are also packs of gangs that roam the joint. If you happen to say something against or disagree with one of their fellow gang members then the rest of the gang piles on. This behavior is generally a result of at least one person in the gang being friends with a moderator.

I don't miss the joint to be honest. Kind of wish I'd found this place earlier. I took about an 8 month break from ECF last year because I was so fed up with the garbage. Went back to the same garbage that's getting worse and worse everyday..
 
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I've been a member of ECF since Jan 2010 and have over 3,000 posts there.

I've not been banned and I've only received one warring in all my time there.

I one warning I received was for 'buying and selling outside of the classifieds section' There was a new member who had not been verified. He was short on cash and didn't have a PV. I offered to send him something I never use for free and I would even pay for shipping. My post was deleted and I was warned.

About a year ago it started getting bad with the clicks and gangs that have taken the place over. Some members are allow to hurl personal attacks, put downs and name calling because they are friends with the moderators. This empowers these members to continue acting poorly because they know there is no backlash.

In my time there I've seen members, who are not in the click, gang, or friends with moderators, get banned and railroaded for far less that what these 'in the click with the moderators' members have done and said. Recently it's getting to the point of no return. It's only about 10 or so members (that I've noticed) but they operate with impunity and they know they can do as they please all the while their moderator buddies look the other way.

I'm not really interested in dropping names or calling people out as that's not really the point of my post. I see there are plenty of ECF horror stories here and the names that have popped up in them are similar to the ones I have seen as being in a click and / or out of control.

I'm looking for a new place to hang my hat as I'm pretty fed up with the crap, clicks and gangs that roam ECF.

Thanks for letting me vent and I've clicked the donate to the forum button. Hope that helps with the server fees! :)

the place needs gonorrhea
 

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Was not banned, never a warning, just decided to leave for all the reasons mentioned. One funny little anecdote:

Quite a while back, a guy once asked in a nice and serious way about the science behind steeping. What's her name, Robino or something, a moderator, comes in and starts blabbering about how leftover spaghetti tastes better the next day, how bread soaks up tomato sauce, and some other bullshit, somehow managing to confuse diffusion and osmosis with ... only a scientist knows what else. Pure gibberish. That's what passes for information over there.
 

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Was not banned, never a warning, just decided to leave for all the reasons mentioned. One funny little anecdote:

Quite a while back, a guy once asked in a nice and serious way about the science behind steeping. What's her name, Robino or something, a moderator, comes in and starts blabbering about how leftover spaghetti tastes better the next day, how bread soaks up tomato sauce, and some other bullshit, somehow managing to confuse diffusion and osmosis with ... only a scientist knows what else. Pure gibberish. That's what passes for information over there.
Bahaahaha!!
I was banned for telling a member not to email me. dude emailed me cussing me out anyway, so when I reported it, I got banned.
Then I bought something off the classies, the dude accused me of being a thief after sending it to north Carolina rather than Louisiana, I told him I wMed my money back and would not leave feedback, so he started calling me at minding and 2 in the morning every night.
After I magically got the merchandise, I told sonic I wanted a new identity, because the seller was still calling, and emailing me. somehow I got a permanent ban.

To ad those were the only times I ever reported anything, yet in was averaging 4 infractions a week before them..both times were extreme, 5 'fuck you' emails in a few minutes and thru other calling every half hour all night.

-I think the secret is a provape banner, both of those members had one as the golden ticket
 
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I don't mind VapePit. Yes it's like the wild wild west over there but as long as you know that in advance, you should be fine. It's also not really a place for new vapers, in my opinion. When I joined there, it was by invite only and they did have a large warning banner..

The issue I see at ECF is that if someone is a real life, or an online friend with a moderator they can do as they wish with complete impunity. If someone who is not buddy, buddy with a moderator(s) were to post the same stuff that they do, they'd be warned or banned in an instant!

There are also packs of gangs that roam the joint. If you happen to say something against or disagree with one of their fellow gang members then the rest of the gang piles on. This behavior is generally a result of at least one person in the gang being friends with a moderator.

I don't miss the joint to be honest. Kind of wish I'd found this place earlier. I took about an 8 month break from ECF last year because I was so fed up with the garbage. Went back to the same garbage that's getting worse and worse everyday..
The Pit is vile.it has a pack of self appointed vape experts that relish reamming anybody that isn't part of their little gang,or people with straight teeth, or anybody that isn't part of the EU,or Irish,or isn't fascinated by homoerotic games of dominance and submission...fuck hellfires,H-atty rules!!!
 

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Well we will just have to agree to disagree... Oh and I happen to love Hellfire's gear! Some of the best made gear I've ever laid my paws on!

I've seen gangs on ECF but not on Vape Pit. But yes like I said, it is the wild, wild west over there. Do they still have a warning banner for new members?
 

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who cares...I haven't bothered with those Anglocentric asshats in a long time the only thing worth looking at was the lush lasses....other than that who cares...yeah hellfire makes great gear so do alot of other modders, and according to the Pit anybody that uses a screw in an atty is ripping off the hellfire.
 

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Well okie dokie but this thread was my post about ECF. I don't have an issue with Vape Pit which is why I didn't include it in my original post.. Maybe you can start a new thread about it?
 

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or not...you hear something you don't like and suddenly you start acting like an ECF mod
 

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Play games with someone else please.. I'm not here for childish comments and people who can't have a civil discussion about something without acting like they are 12..

Anyway, to the ignore list with you as I don't really feel the need to read anything else you post.

Relax and try being helpful and friendly in the future. It goes a long ways over the rude and obtuse path you've chosen.

So again, have a nice day, :)
 

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Odd how you act in the manner that you say you hate about Vape Pit..

Ease up on the Jr. High School put downs and name calling.. I could do the same but I'll pass and let you have the last word..

You should call me another name after my post...

Read? Set....... -------> (ignore clicked) GO!
 
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I joined this form and one other....on the other i can only post in the new member section so it does no good till they deside to promote me. i have not been on that one since. It is really to bad there are so many jerks out there and people that cannot be nice.
i am a senior and started vaping to kick my three pack a day habit I have had for 44 years. An to answer what I think everyone is thinking, YES I CAN STILL BREATH. however..... I feel better and smell better not smoking! I could not believe i stopped smoking the first day I started vaping. I went into this with the idea I would smoke a real cigarette when I wantted one..... Needles to say it has not happened in the two months I have been vaping!
 

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I don't mind VapePit. Yes it's like the wild wild west over there but as long as you know that in advance, you should be fine. It's also not really a place for new vapers, in my opinion. When I joined there, it was by invite only and they did have a large warning banner..

The issue I see at ECF is that if someone is a real life, or an online friend with a moderator they can do as they wish with complete impunity. If someone who is not buddy, buddy with a moderator(s) were to post the same stuff that they do, they'd be warned or banned in an instant!

There are also packs of gangs that roam the joint. If you happen to say something against or disagree with one of their fellow gang members then the rest of the gang piles on. This behavior is generally a result of at least one person in the gang being friends with a moderator.

I don't miss the joint to be honest. Kind of wish I'd found this place earlier. I took about an 8 month break from ECF last year because I was so fed up with the garbage. Went back to the same garbage that's getting worse and worse everyday..


The packs are created and attack from th chat room. So one asshole posts a link to a thread slamming one of their buddies and they all run in there.

If you're going to troll people, they should at least do it correctly.
 

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Ah got ya! I never participated in chats. Maybe that why I was not in on the click? :D
 

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I got a warning this morning for asking the question " did anyone ever call you a twit?" its just a question... not an insult, not aimed at anyone... and bam a warning.... yup.. its gone too far...
Any twit I've run into there ? :)
 

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Saw him yesterday! Much nicer place, with the restraints removed.
I got my permanent ban last weak.
I was so happy.
 

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Way I look at it, I banned them from my online life. Their loss. No forum should be a place of constant self-censorship.
 

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Saw him yesterday! Much nicer place, with the restraints removed.
I got my permanent ban last weak.
I was so happy.
It gets confusing over there , you're not the one that started or perpetuated that nasty crap over there .
 

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What?
I not do nuffin.
What's goin on, over there?
It gets confusing over there , you're not the one that started or perpetuated that nasty crap over there .
 

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What?
I not do nuffin.
What's goin on, over there?
I'm talking about the asshole that e-mailed you and his cocksucker accomplices , what was the permanent ban for ?
 

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I've been a member of ECF since Jan 2010 and have over 3,000 posts there.

I've not been banned and I've only received one warring in all my time there.

I one warning I received was for 'buying and selling outside of the classifieds section' There was a new member who had not been verified. He was short on cash and didn't have a PV. I offered to send him something I never use for free and I would even pay for shipping. My post was deleted and I was warned.

About a year ago it started getting bad with the clicks and gangs that have taken the place over. Some members are allow to hurl personal attacks, put downs and name calling because they are friends with the moderators. This empowers these members to continue acting poorly because they know there is no backlash.

In my time there I've seen members, who are not in the click, gang, or friends with moderators, get banned and railroaded for far less that what these 'in the click with the moderators' members have done and said. Recently it's getting to the point of no return. It's only about 10 or so members (that I've noticed) but they operate with impunity and they know they can do as they please all the while their moderator buddies look the other way.

I'm not really interested in dropping names or calling people out as that's not really the point of my post. I see there are plenty of ECF horror stories here and the names that have popped up in them are similar to the ones I have seen as being in a click and / or out of control.

I'm looking for a new place to hang my hat as I'm pretty fed up with the crap, clicks and gangs that roam ECF.

Thanks for letting me vent and I've clicked the donate to the forum button. Hope that helps with the server fees! :)


Welcome to VU :) ... It seems many are sick of ECF and have moved here. All are welcome! :D
 

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I'm talking about the asshole that e-mailed you and his cocksucker accomplices , what was the permanent ban for ?
A combination of that and being upset for someone I bought something from calling me at home at 1am to scream and call me theif. - he said I got the item, sent me proof of it in north Carolina so when I told him that's the wrong state, i was the bad guy.
Geography is bad


I think the mods want only people they approve of on there.
Or-
Its a conspiracy put on by big tobacco to keep all of we ex-smokers at each others throats so that we are distracted while they help the gubbamint pass legislation on us.

One of those ^^
 

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lets put it this way... he thinks handling 99% nic is over rated as far as the hazards go.... obviously he has never encountered 99% nic....
 

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Sounds twitty mctwitty
 

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Only one gang allowed here... the cat ladies.
And they don't need to KNOW a mod...
If you speak poorly of their friend / vendor's performance, you will be attacked... and banned. Just don't speak against their friends, and you'll be fine here.


That said, VU still blows ECF off the map.


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^^^^seconded
Tabby Cat ladies
 

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Only one gang allowed here... the cat ladies.
And they don't need to KNOW a mod...
If you speak poorly of their friend / vendor's performance, you will be attacked... and banned. Just don't speak against their friends, and you'll be fine here.


That said, VU still blows ECF off the map.


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