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So little discussion of Yihi SxMini M class and other boards like SX350???

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Yes, and no. Both are high-end, single 18650 VW regulated box mods (vs. the more budget minded IPV D2, iStick etc). Pricing will be within $20 of each other, both are built rock solid. In my opinion, the SX is a lot more bang for the buck-- almost double the output range, temp control, presets, different curves, 2nd battery expandability.
exactly 2 totally different types of mods
 

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I would shell out the extra $50 for the newest sx mini jm (or whatever it is) for the course threaded battery cap alone.
The fine threads on the mini j are stupid. And my warranty replacement came pre-cross threaded for me out of the box so I didn't even have to do it myself lol, how thoughtful.

Someone is selling replacement caps (not the original) that is supposed to fix the issue - but I forget who (read about it at the other place!).
 

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Since I have run it in a hundred times now it's not as bad but the first mod was butter smooth and stayed that way.

This is probably the one you saw? Looks easier to deal with even if it may not remedy the brass threads that got a little chewed up along with the caps threads. May have to pick up a black one :cool:
http://shop.elevatedvapeaccessories.com/
 

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Since I have run it in a hundred times now it's not as bad but the first mod was butter smooth and stayed that way.

This is probably the one you saw? Looks easier to deal with even if it may not remedy the brass threads that got a little chewed up along with the caps threads. May have to pick up a black one :cool:
http://shop.elevatedvapeaccessories.com/
I don't remember them coming in different colors - I wonder if there's another place? I'll have to check the SX thread in the other place to see!
 

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I believe that the lack of talk and mods relating to the 350J chip was timed to compete with the DNA 200 I think myself that YIHI sat on it too long.. The one nice thing about the DNA 200 for us with the Vape Sickness is I can freak with that Escribe software and make and mess with it long enough not to get bored.. If Yihi's 350J has been first to have editing software that the common man could use I think the 350J chip would have been a huge hit.. I think the SX Mini is just plain over priced its silly at best
 

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Anyone else find it odd that the timing of this new firmware is corresponding with the release of the ProVari box mod
Wow, this has nothing to do with the release of ProVapes new device. This is YiHis 2nd release of a upgrade of the SX350J. I find it quite amusing that some people actually think they are owed something from YIHI because the SX350J has upgrade capabilities. When they bought the SX350J/SXMini M class they bought a 60 watt temp control w/ Ni 200 device that had upgrade capabilities. Never were they promised anything more. But in 7 months YIHI has given them 2 firmware upgrades for no cost and there is still people that aren't satisfied and still come here and talk smack about YIHI when in fact they have provided us with a superior product.
 

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Update is available for those interested. Link is for the SXmini M. For the SX350J head over to Yihiecigar.com to download your file.
http://www.yihisxmini.com/Upgrade-Firmware-page18.html

Edit: Maybe only Chinese available presently getting "Unauthorized access" on the English download.
Yea....it's Chinese alright...
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I believe that the lack of talk and mods relating to the 350J chip was timed to compete with the DNA 200 I think myself that YIHI sat on it too long.. The one nice thing about the DNA 200 for us with the Vape Sickness is I can freak with that Escribe software and make and mess with it long enough not to get bored.. If Yihi's 350J has been first to have editing software that the common man could use I think the 350J chip would have been a huge hit.. I think the SX Mini is just plain over priced its silly at best

I think for many it's troublesome to have to connect to a PC to adjust the settings just to vape. While I think it's advantageous to have some of the monitoring & recording abilities of Escribe in Device monitoring, all the settings adjustments should be available on the boards menu system. It can be quite inconvenient at the lake should you need / want to adjust your preheat for example.
 

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I think for many it's troublesome to have to connect to a PC to adjust the settings just to vape. While I think it's advantageous to have some of the monitoring & recording abilities of Escribe in Device monitoring, all the settings adjustments should be available on the boards menu system. It can be quite inconvenient at the lake should you need / want to adjust your preheat for example.
It is only an option one does not have to hook it up thats the point.. It gives a user the choice with the YIHI chip the SX Mini for example there is no choice ..
 

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It is only an option one does not have to hook it up thats the point.. It gives a user the choice with the YIHI chip the SX Mini for example there is no choice ..

That's not really true. DNA 200 comes by default at 200W preheat, if i threw on a small coil on it would be a burnt hit almost instantly. Or in the example I used about being at the lake, If I only had a prebuilt coil with me of .5Ω and I had previously setup Preheat at 150W for a .15Ω coil it would be a terrible vaping experience and I wouldn't be able to adjust the preheat.

And also the choice with the SXmini M is in it's 5 presets that are selected on the device. Soft, Powerful, Powerful+, Eco or Standard. So the user can heat it up slower or faster depending on the coil, their mood etc.. directly on the device without the need to tether it to a pc.
 

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That's not really true. DNA 200 comes by default at 200W preheat, if i threw on a small coil on it would be a burnt hit almost instantly. Or in the example I used about being at the lake, If I only had a prebuilt coil with me of .5Ω and I had previously setup Preheat at 150W for a .15Ω coil it would be a terrible vaping experience and I wouldn't be able to adjust the preheat.

And also the choice with the SXmini M is in it's 5 presets that are selected on the device. Soft, Powerful, Powerful+, Eco or Standard. So the user can heat it up slower or faster depending on the coil, their mood etc.. directly on the device without the need to tether it to a pc.
What? make sense get a grip you are nutz and full of things dat are bad
 

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What? make sense get a grip you are nutz and full of things dat are bad
Perhaps were having a different discussion and perhaps I'm reading what your stating "It" as being something different than what your trying to convey.
 

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Perhaps were having a different discussion and perhaps I'm reading what your stating "It" as being something different than what your trying to convey.
Well I look at the discussion as follows if I am wrong then I am wrong..
Radius was announced
Specs released
So some stated it is underpowered
Others have stated its Pretty well built etc <--- kinda
so the conclusion is
The Radius is underpowered and pretty and well built?
??
 

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doesnt the dna200 have several memory slots as well, that you can flip through on the device if you change attys without the need of a pc?
 

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Is there any reason that we can't all just get along?

Not really arguing trying to correct what I perceived as incorrect statements but at this point I'm unclear exactly what's being conveyed by mrscary. So i'm outa that convo. :)
 

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Not really arguing trying to correct what I perceived as incorrect statements but at this point I'm unclear exactly what's being conveyed by mrscary. So i'm outa that convo. :)
Hey why are you out of it.. Its possible I am searching just as much as you ... why get out of a conversation man? see I do not see the point of disagreeing or seeking answers as anything but seeking... I am not sure I know what I am trying to convey many thoughts many ideas ;)
 

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doesnt the dna200 have several memory slots as well, that you can flip through on the device if you change attys without the need of a pc?
Yes it has what they call profiles Im looking at the Escribe software.. I do not have my DNA 200 should be here sometime this week as soon as VapeNW gets dare supply fo the Effusion
 

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doesnt the dna200 have several memory slots as well, that you can flip through on the device if you change attys without the need of a pc?

Yes there are 8 profiles on the DNA 200. And you could configure each profile for a specific wire, preheat, atty etc.. but your still unable to see or adjust what your preheat settings are per profile unless you connect to pc, but you could remember them. Still the problem is I'd run out of profiles if I wanted to setup just a few profiles for the 3 different atty's I typically use at a few different preheats.
 

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Well I look at the discussion as follows if I am wrong then I am wrong..
Radius was announced
Specs released
So some stated it is underpowered
Others have stated its Pretty well built etc <--- kinda
so the conclusion is
The Radius is underpowered and pretty and well built?
??
i look at it like this
if you want a 40w device that is a box mod, and need nothing else, and want possibly the best built, longest lasting device, with after warranty service at a fair price, and you are willing to pay 200 the provari is the best on the market. Because lets be sensible. say you buy a dna200 mod for the customizations and tc, and then dont use it, and it is that part of the mod that breaks in such a way, that it renders the entire device unusable, and its after warranty.
Now you have to pay to fix it, where as on the provari didnt have that stuff to break your mod in the first place. The provari has less things to go wrong built in. SO there is an argument to be made if ALL YOU NEED is 40W, then the Provari is the better deal.

My only real grip with the device is 40W is a little anemic in my opinion with all the tanks on the market using dual coils that can push 50-60watts easy and need that much power to make those tanks shine such as Starre,Crown, Triforce, maganus, billow v2 depending on your build, etc. NOw with this upgradable thing in it maybe they will increase its power, maybe not, it may just be a gimmick.

Now the sx mini M class has everything people are using in the dna200 with just less customization options. it has a smaller form factor, and it uses what most of us have 18650s instead of lipos, but its dependibility has been questioned by some, even @AmandaD had hers just up and die on her.

I personally am sticking with my d2 and 3li for a while, and going to keep an eye on the VS dna200 and see if as advertised, it may be the last mod I NEED (not necessarily the last one I want), if something NEW doesnt come around in 5-6 months that the dna200 cant do, then the dna200 with the VS reputation may be my best bet, cuz I hate buying a new mod every time something else comes along.
 

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i look at it like this
if you want a 40w device that is a box mod, and need nothing else, and want possibly the best built, longest lasting device, with after warranty service at a fair price, and you are willing to pay 200 the provari is the best on the market. Because lets be sensible. say you buy a dna200 mod for the customizations and tc, and then dont use it, and it is that part of the mod that breaks in such a way, that it renders the entire device unusable, and its after warranty.
Now you have to pay to fix it, where as on the provari didnt have that stuff to break your mod in the first place. The provari has less things to go wrong built in. SO there is an argument to be made if ALL YOU NEED is 40W, then the Provari is the better deal.

My only real grip with the device is 40W is a little anemic in my opinion with all the tanks on the market using dual coils that can push 50-60watts easy and need that much power to make those tanks shine such as Starre,Crown, Triforce, maganus, billow v2 depending on your build, etc. NOw with this upgradable thing in it maybe they will increase its power, maybe not, it may just be a gimmick.

Now the sx mini M class has everything people are using in the dna200 with just less customization options. it has a smaller form factor, and it uses what most of us have 18650s instead of lipos, but its dependibility has been questioned by some, even @AmandaD had hers just up and die on her.

I personally am sticking with my d2 and 3li for a while, and going to keep an eye on the VS dna200 and see if as advertised, it may be the last mod I NEED (not necessarily the last one I want), if something NEW doesnt come around in 5-6 months that the dna200 cant do, then the dna200 with the VS reputation may be my best bet, cuz I hate buying a new mod every time something else comes along.
I like da way you talk Matt
 

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Yes there are 8 profiles on the DNA 200. And you could configure each profile for a specific wire, preheat, atty etc.. but your still unable to see or adjust what your preheat settings are per profile unless you connect to pc, but you could remember them. Still the problem is I'd run out of profiles if I wanted to setup just a few profiles for the 3 different atty's I typically use at a few different preheats.
I set mine up similarly only, I settled on SS as my wire lf choice for tc, so all my profiles have different preheats on them and I can swap attys with a different build, go to the preheat profile I want and change temp and power setting as I see fit.
Seems to work, for me since with Kanthal tc shuts off automatically
 

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Anyway speaking of the Yihi 350J chip I am thinking I need a 350J chip so I can make a bit more sense..
What you guys think about Vaporlips? anyone had a mod built they have a real cool mod right now I think Im going to bite on it just because I can..
 

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I set mine up similarly only, I settled on SS as my wore lf choice for tc, so all mu profiles have different preheats on them so I can swap attys with a different build, go to the preheat profile I want and change temp and power setting as I see fit.
Seems to work, for me since with Kanthal tc shuts off automatically
I need to get into SS I just started with TI so I am SS dumb
 

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Well don't feel alone. :)

But the SXMiini M update is up ready for download but only in Chinese. lol
Lol, I saw rebel, tried it, lol. dude had to translate gracechen style to put it back.
I emailed Amy to see what that's about and tried the 350j update but since its not for the sxm (logo) it won't update. Pretty sure they'll have it fixed tonite.
 

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I set mine up similarly only, I settled on SS as my wire lf choice for tc, so all my profiles have different preheats on them and I can swap attys with a different build, go to the preheat profile I want and change temp and power setting as I see fit.
Seems to work, for me since with Kanthal tc shuts off automatically

Yea that's about all you can do until they move all the settings adjustments to the device (hopefully they do) . But I have 5 different wire types sitting here and it's just impossible for me to change over and remember what the settings are in each profile without connecting to Escribe. Not to mention 5 profiles used for Ni200, SS304, SS316, Ti and one for Ti Cleaning so I'm pretty limited on being able to use a profile just for storing different preheats.
 

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Yea that's about all you can do until they move all the settings adjustments to the device (hopefully they do) . But I have 5 different wire types sitting here and it's just impossible for me to change over and remember what the settings are in each profile without connecting to Escribe. Not to mention 5 profiles used for Ni200, SS304, SS316, Ti and one for Ti Cleaning so I'm pretty limited on being able to use a profile just for storing different preheats.
Yikes. I had that for the first week and them pifd my ni200 AMD ti and kept only the 316l. I was using just kanthal with the sxm waiting for this update .. grrr
 

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I find it quite amusing that some people actually think they are owed something from YIHI because the SX350J has upgrade capabilities. When they bought the SX350J/SXMini M class they bought a 60 watt temp control w/ Ni 200 device that had upgrade capabilites

Actually, that was one of my buying decisions. I didn't want to drop $200 on a mod that would be obsolete in a few months.

If the newest tech was due to new hardware, then I understand if I don't get it. If my chip could run the newest version and wire types, I would have been pissed if I didn't get it.

I dont expect or need more than 60w, Ti and SS were not a thought yet when I bought it. If an update can allow me to run them and is able to be flashed to my chip but they don't release it... yeah, I won't be happy.

They did though, they stood up to their claim as having a chip that is upgradeable and I am very happy for that.
 

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Yikes. I had that for the first week and them pifd my ni200 AMD ti and kept only the 316l. I was using just kanthal with the sxm waiting for this update .. grrr

I've still not had much luck building my own SS316 coils so still working on that with a high frustration level. I like how easy it is to work with, just my coils seem to constantly have hot spots so I build one on one day then end up tearing it out and not getting back to it for a day or two. Maybe my wire's garbage idk.... got it from ebay.
 

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Actually, that was one of my buying decisions. I didn't want to drop $200 on a mod that would be obsolete in a few months.

If the newest tech was due to new hardware, then I understand if I don't get it. If my chip could run the newest version and wire types, I would have been pissed if I didn't get it.

I dont expect or need more than 60w, Ti and SS were not a thought yet when I bought it. If an update can allow me to run them and is able to be flashed to my chip but they don't release it... yeah, I won't be happy.

They did though, they stood up to their claim as having a chip that is upgradeable and I am very happy for that.
Well YIHI has been known to have regular updates I do not really think many bought it for the reasons I would but my opinion is probably best not brought up.. the chip can easily do more wattage but then again.. Those that wanted more power would get a custom mod on the 350J chip that is not Mini class IMHO
 

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I've still not had much luck building my own SS316 coils so still working on that with a high frustration level. I like how easy it is to work with, just my coils seem to constantly have hot spots so I build one on one day then end up tearing it out and not getting back to it for a day or two. Maybe my wire's garbage idk.... got it from ebay.
I use the ud wire, I'm curious to try the new stuff from unkamen
http://www.unkamensupplies.com/collections/wire/kanthal-52
 

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Well YIHI has been known to have regular updates I do not really think many bought it for the reasons I would but my opinion is probably best not brought up.. the chip can easily do more wattage but then again.. Those that wanted more power would get a custom mod on the 350J chip that is not Mini class IMHO

Yeah, I wouldn't want to see much more than 60w with a single cell for safety reasons and the way I vape I don't breach 45j unless I throw my CLT on. 95% of my TC vaping is with a single coil flavor rda or an orchid so I'm usually 35j - 45j.

There were more factors in my buying decision than just upgradability, but that was one of them.



I think I will hold off on learning Chinese and just wait for them to sort out the screen and then update :D
 

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Woohooooooooooooooooo
 

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Yeah, I wouldn't want to see much more than 60w with a single cell for safety reasons and the way I vape I don't breach 45j unless I throw my CLT on. 95% of my TC vaping is with a single coil flavor rda or an orchid so I'm usually 35j - 45j.

There were more factors in my buying decision than just upgradability, but that was one of them.



I think I will hold off on learning Chinese and just wait for them to sort out the screen and then update :D
I agree sadly many only bought the SX Mini because someone else said "Hey buy this" they did not really buy it do to the fact its a second genration YIHI chip and knowing its single cell they did not think about anything else accept the cool factor or worse they may have bought it not knowing anything
 

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Ahh so finally I see ti boots the Wattage to 75.. Nice upgrade I thinky myself sounds reasonable
 

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From what I've seen the bug fixes are:
No longer defaulting to M1 when exiting menu system and places you back at your previously selected Mx selection.
Doesn't lose Power or Joule settings if adjusted in the menu system after exiting and selecting another Mx location
Can no longer circumvent 75J setting with Ni200 mode because that limitation is no longer present.

Added Features are:
Manual TCR
Temperature Compensation
75J in Ni200 mode

There's two bugs that I'm aware of testing with single 18650 in this release, let me know if you find any and how to reproduce them and I'll add them to my bug list.
 

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Ok homie... What's temperature compensation?
Is that like when a dude with no weenie gets a big jacked up truck?(no offense to anyone)
 

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