looks like a lot people think it is better than Griffin
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looks like a lot people think it is better than Griffin
You think those are real reviews from people that bought the tank?
I dont see how more airflow could make a tank with more then enough airflow already any better...but thats just me. I could be wrong but try Drilling holes into a airy RDA...It wont make it a better RDA then before...
BTW Newer Griffins come with a Hardened Nitrite Coated Grub Screws, no more easily stripped screws. You will know if yours has them as the screws will be black and have a weird texture to them and wont strip, I have yet to strip one on my newer Black Griffin.,
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These reviews are so full of it, looks better? Really? More airflow? Totally not needed, threads are better? No way, i saw a review on YT the guy was unable to screw the base back until after the 6th attempt coz the threads were catching, top cap wiggles... Etc
I got the Griffin with the black post screws, at first i thought it was fake because of that, the word Griffin is no longer engraved on the chamber, and the Griffin logo is not black, just laser engraved on the SS itself, checked my serial and it was in the 7000 so i figured it could be a new revision, thanks for the confirmation
I tighten the hell out of them and they do not strip, one screw came with a tight hole though that does not fit the included allen key and had to use one of the spares
You did ask to "Beat This"Hell yeah, it's embarrassing to post anything hehehe
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I was referring to the reviews... Dude ur VAPEMAIL is the VAPE Mail of the year....You did ask to "Beat This"
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Im still waiting for the other half of it...I was referring to the reviews... Dude ur VAPEMAIL is the VAPE Mail of the year....
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Gemini vs Griffin Deck...
I still like the Griffins much more...That added airflow isnt going to make much of a difference and the for the height difference its not worth it.
If they want to improve the Griffin then make it 25mm, Steal the TFV4 Topfill, use the Gemini Juice hole cuts and airflow ports (deck airflow, not top airflow), and lightly knurled the chamber lip that the glass sits on and the lip above the glass.
I still like the Griffins much more...That added airflow isnt going to make much of a difference and the for the height difference its not worth it.
If they want to improve the Griffin then make it 25mm, Steal the TFV4 Topfill, use the Gemini Juice hole cuts and airflow ports (deck airflow, not top airflow), and lightly knurled the chamber lip that the glass sits on and the lip above the glass.
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How do you figure more flavor? But, yes more airflow, if it's needed, I close my griffin down to about 1/2-2/3 already so...I can see why they call this a GTANK killer....
Airflow
Falvor
It's pretty obvious...
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Just look at the juice control, see how wider and closer it is to the TOP.The airflow slots at the base of the Gemini compensated for the bigger chamber/juice control.. Black Gemini will be a seller just like the Griffin...
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So what do you get from larger juice flow holes if your wick is already saturated? I'm just not seeing it. I'll trust that video you posted, seems like his overall comment is the same as what I would have guessed. If you want more airflow (diluting flavor with air for bigger clouds/cooler vape) then this is your thing.
I didn't say anything about larger juice flow..But
To answer ur question, larger juice flow will make sure ur wicks are always saturated..especially for HIGH VG EJUICE.
That's why I said
AIRFLOW SLOTS COMPENSATED FOR THE LARGER CHAMBER/juice control..
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bigger ...juice control.
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I didn't say anything about larger juice flow
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What am I supposed to get from that statement then?
You not getting me man
Wider juice control/chamber it's the thing you close when you fill ur tank
Juice flows are the slots where the juice flow
See the difference? Come on now
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No, not really. Larger juice control means absolutely shit if the juice flow isn't being added to. Juice control is simply control of the entry to the juice flow. If the addition isn't adding to the flow what's the point?
The chamber is actually smaller in every way...your sort of throwing more airflow in to compensate for the loss of room...its basically a more complex way to get the same results...Just look at the juice control, see how wider and closer it is to the TOP.The airflow slots at the base of the Gemini compensated for the bigger chamber/juice control.. Black Gemini will be a seller just like the Griffin...
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The posts are thicker and cap is much smaller so the build room and space inside the chamber is smaller, this may make for more flavor but with the added airflow its going to end up having the same results as the Griffin, but with more shit added just to do the same thing...
No the Cap and the area inside the cap while its on the deck, the deck is the same except the Posts/middle post and the wall the splits the airflow in the deck.Chamber? You meant the deck?
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All I'm doing is describing the tank..
I'm not trying to justify which is better dude, that's not my style..
Non of this tanks tickle my balls,
I have my favorite RTA... and it's not the Griffin nor the Gemini
So relax before you have a massive diarrhea..
If you think the design and specifics of this tank doesn't tickle ur balls
DONT BUy it and stop talking about it..
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No diarrhea, no issues, but if you spout off about things not making sense expect people to call you out on it. Think before you type.All I'm doing is describing the tank..
I'm not trying to justify which is better dude, that's not my style..
Non of this tanks tickle my balls,
I have my favorite RTA... and it's not the Griffin nor the Gemini
So relax before you have a massive diarrhea..
If you think the design and specifics of this tank doesn't tickle ur balls
DONT BUy it and stop talking about it..
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Thats exactly what I'm talking about its wider and closer to the top...
The airflow design on the Gemini compensated from the specifics you just mentioned..
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The speed of my reading doesn't affect the understanding of contradictory statements.all you have to do is read slowly and understand.... Use ur big brain
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Its hard to read and understand when its not perfectly written out Ej, even I am having a hard time understanding what you are stating...I text message the way I type here and I dont read short hand very well..
Are you stating that the Gemini has a bigger chamber area or the Griffin...I would say its the latter since its not clogged up with extra pieces and material and a small Chamber Cap...In the Pic the Gemini's cap only looks bigger but its thicker (almost 1.2mm) and then domed so the top area is shorter also, The Griffins Cap is paper thin and is formed like a Box so it has the greatest amount of usable area compared to a rounded design.
Are you stating that the Gemini has a bigger chamber area or the Griffin...I would say its the latter since its not clogged up with extra pieces and material and a small Chamber Cap...In the Pic the Gemini's cap only looks bigger but its thicker (almost 1.2mm) and then domed so the top area is shorter also, The Griffins Cap is paper thin and is formed like a Box so it has the greatest amount of usable area compared to a rounded design.
I know what I said...
It was very simple
Wider juice control
Slotted airflow at the base of the tank...
The slotted airflow design compensated to the wider juice control/chamber
I'm not taking about juice flow
You brought that up...
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I don't like arguments, I'm quite non confrontational, it's just not worthwhile. But, go back and read what I said, or simpler I'll state it again. When you point out Wider juice control that means NOTHING if you're not getting more juice flow from it. Juice control is simply putting a clamp on the juice flow. Having a wider clamp or a smaller clamp would only help if the juice flow is capable of taking advantage of a larger option.
The top part of the juice control is
Wider...
The airflow design at base of the tank are slotted separately...
I'm not talking about juice flow...
And that's why my comment was
I can see why people say Gemini tank is a GTANK killer
Because of those two things that I just mentioned...
I'm not talking about
Deck not juice flow...
Is this understandable now?
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Not really...and the only people that said that was Mike Vapes. They perform the same.
The added airflow only balances out the chambers smaller inner area. Its not bigger its condensed, the chamber cap only makes it look bigger but its domed and chunkier then the Griffins so it actually reduces the amount of room within it.
I may have to draw a picture to explain my point...
The added airflow only balances out the chambers smaller inner area. Its not bigger its condensed, the chamber cap only makes it look bigger but its domed and chunkier then the Griffins so it actually reduces the amount of room within it.
I may have to draw a picture to explain my point...
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I don't argue dude... That's not my style,
Two things I said about why people say Gemini is a Griffin killer
Wider juice control/ chamber TOP part leading to the drip tip...
Slotted airflow design...
That's it...
I'm not talking about juice flow nor the deck area...
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It's gonna happen
I would like to point out "Just because the chamber cap looks bigger doesnt mean the deck and area inside it bigger"...There is more material inside the chamber and on the deck, making the internal volume smaller and the added airflow is actually needed so it doesnt feel so restricted from the added material when drawing from it...It is a wasteful design that doesnt take away or help in any way. It is only giving the same result with a more complex add ons....
Think of it this way...
Take a RDA thats nice like the Twisted Messes RDA, add another positive black and negative posts into it and shorten the chamber cap. This would make the draw tighter and the build room smaller so drilling holes would refix the draw. This is what I am talking about. Its not helping and isnt taking away from it...I dont see how that makes it a Killer for the design that utilizes less material and does the same job.
Think of it this way...
Take a RDA thats nice like the Twisted Messes RDA, add another positive black and negative posts into it and shorten the chamber cap. This would make the draw tighter and the build room smaller so drilling holes would refix the draw. This is what I am talking about. Its not helping and isnt taking away from it...I dont see how that makes it a Killer for the design that utilizes less material and does the same job.
Mike Vapes disagrees
He doesnt build...he doesnt understand your build matters and you can adjust for more airflow or less with just the build. I wouldnt take Mike Vapes opinion as the end all statement inlaid in stone to read from....most of these reviewers are just handed shit and dont even bother using them more then a few hours before reviewing them. I agree with some of his reviews but others I dont for a handful of reasons.
What build is that?
Its funny how people take a person word for something over testing things themselves, or someone who tests that isnt paid or sponsored...
Geekvape just released a Top Airflow add-on for the Griffin. Its modular and it only costs $8, the best part is the chamber isnt taken up by all the added material the Gemini has...so the added airflow is actually ADDED AIRFLOW, not extra airflow to compensate for the loss of chamber space, and its a optional, rather then something thats permanently stuck there...
So for people that have the original and wanted more airflow..which I dont really see why they would except for 1 person..there's your sign. For someone wanting to get a RTA and doesnt know whether more airflow would be better or not this could be a better option then buying a RTA with permanent TA.
Geekvape just released a Top Airflow add-on for the Griffin. Its modular and it only costs $8, the best part is the chamber isnt taken up by all the added material the Gemini has...so the added airflow is actually ADDED AIRFLOW, not extra airflow to compensate for the loss of chamber space, and its a optional, rather then something thats permanently stuck there...
So for people that have the original and wanted more airflow..which I dont really see why they would except for 1 person..there's your sign. For someone wanting to get a RTA and doesnt know whether more airflow would be better or not this could be a better option then buying a RTA with permanent TA.
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Man you never sleep do you?Its funny how people take a person word for something over testing things themselves, or someone who tests that isnt paid or sponsored...
Geekvape just released a Top Airflow add-on for the Griffin. Its modular and it only costs $8, the best part is the chamber isnt taken up by all the added material the Gemini has...so the added airflow is actually ADDED AIRFLOW, not extra airflow to compensate for the loss of chamber space, and its a optional, rather then something thats permanently stuck there...
So for people that have the original and wanted more airflow..which I dont really see why they would except for 1 person..there's your sign. For someone wanting to get a RTA and doesnt know whether more airflow would be better or not this could be a better option then buying a RTA with permanent TA.
Very smart move on Geekvape's part i like how this company thinks and operates, they know what vapers want and they give it to them in the best form and quality possible, this is great for the opportunity to try both airflow configurations and use what works best for you or switch depending on mode, now who needs the Gemini? with this Extra part the Griffin claims its crown again, i am definitely getting another Griffin with the top airflow part and the Tsunami RDA as well, a company like that deserves my money more than any other company