Guide to Mixing by Weight

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  1. Squonk

    Squonk Gold Contributor Member For 2 Years

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    I have the same scale as you. I have to wait a few seconds for the scale to settle after adding. As long as I know in my head that most drops are .02g, I'm good with that. Oh yeah, I also staple a dead chicken to my wall above where I'm mixing. It seems to work.;)
     
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    The problem(s) you're having are due to the sensitivity of the scale. If you get a more sensitive scale, the problems will only be amplified. Where's @Teresa P chiming in with her nickel trick? :)
     
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    Teresa does tricks for a nickel?:eek:
     
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    Don't forget to walk around your chair three times while chanting a soothing mantra....and the chicken must be black. ;)
    Yes, I rely on my trusty 5g nickel more than I do the actual 10g weight that came with the scale. But I did also take the time to measure out 1ml of each fluid ( minus flavors) to get a proper assessment for my scale.
     
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    You guys really need to start sleeping on the other side of the bed, you're getting delusional....lol!
     
  6. Squonk

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    The LB-501 I got came with two 200g weights. It was dead on right out of the box.
    Black chickens. Hummmmm?
     
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    If you want perfection then weigh everything and then add the smallest amount with a 1ml syringe. >.03gr = .03ml or .01gr =.01ml
     
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    I use the same scale Amanda uses. My goal is consistency. I agree that knowing what one drop weighs helps, as does adding the smallest weight when something else is already weighed out, THEN tare.
     
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    Absolute accuracy just isn't part of the equation. No two "drops" are gonna weigh the same as a lot of that depends on how hard you're squeezing the bottle. And if the weight of something is off by 1/100 of a gram, it won't be noticed in a mix and that's a fact. Outside of investing mega bucks in a .001 or .0001 jewelry or lab scale, this is as good as it gets.
     
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    I couldn't get mine to calibrate. Kept fluctuating, tried to calibrate it many times. Sent it back.
     
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    I should have seen this one coning but wanted Teresa to get credit as that's where I'd first heard of it.

    Truth be told, I couldn't recall with certainty that 5g was correct 'cause I use calibration weights & never tried a nickel. :)
     
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    A nickels weight is .5
     
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    I think you added a decimal.
     
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    Yeah, I was about to say that if his nickels weigh .5 grams, he's gettin' ripped off! :D
     
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    If you don't have a scale, @juicy76 (or have a scale but not a nickel), you can ask The Google. :)
     
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    Oops...lol
     
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    I do have a scale . I bought the one recommended by huck a few month ago
     
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    If you're referring to the LB-501, close the window/turn off the fan/don't breathe on it when calibrating and mixing. I'm completely serious. It's very sensitive to air currents. Blow on it and see what I mean.
     
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    Mine goes crazy when the A/C vent is blowing.:cuss2:
     
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    Same here, turn off the ceiling fan, hold my breath, I can't even shake my flavor bottles too close to mine, it stirs a breeze....
     
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    You should have seen the pile of nickels I had to go through to find any even close to 5 grams.
    Think I got short changed:teehee:
     
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    The newer nickels aren't 5Gs. Gotta use the older steeped ones, but any wear on them will lower the weight.
     
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    It doesn't really matter if the nickle is precisely 5 grams, once you put it on the scale you know what the nickle weighs and then subtract that from what you are trying to weigh. If I'm going to be so precise to measure out 0.01 grams of a flavor in a recipe, I'm going to make a 10% solution of that flavor and use 0.1 grams of that solution. 0.01 grams is less than a typical drop.
     
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    @Huckleberried I can't remember which thread it was in but I thought I read something about you and someone else using "wash bottles" for your PG/VG when mixing by weight. Just a quick question. Do you use anything to seal off the bottles after your done? or just leave them as they are?

    Funny back story... After mixing my last batch of juice, I cleaned all my equipment off and popped it into the oven over night to keep em out of reach of the kitten while drying. About dinner time the next day I opened a pre-heated oven to a puddle of syringes. DOH!
     
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    Wash bottles? Not sure what you mean, exactly. What I have my PG and VG in right now is a squeeze bottle with a twist top, holds 8oz, super easy for mixing by weight.

    Wait, do you mean like those spouted eye wash bottles?? I do remember reading something like that, too.
     
  26. Teresa P

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    Nooooo! Lol! I can almost relate.... I soak my "vape dishes" in hot, soapy water with a capful of bleach, rinse them in hot water, then run them through a baby bottle sterilizer that goes in the microwave. I neglected to put the required water in the sterilizer one evening and literally cooked the rubber bulbs on a few glass eye droppers. The fumes were so strong in here, I had to stand on the porch for awhile till the air cleared....:confused: :blech:
     
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    Ahhh thought I read somewhere that you used these

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    Wasn't me, but I do remember someone using them.

    These are mine.

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  29. riverdan

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    Made my first batch last night by weight. What a pleasant experience! Thanks for the info Botboy and everyone else!


    Edit... Weight, not measurement
     
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    So...it should be a older U.S. nickel that has this on one side?
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    :popcorn:

    Thanks!

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    I just weighed 6 nickels and only 2 weighed 5gs. The others were under. I'm beginning to think it may not be the proper way to calibrate a scale. The info I posted before may be incorrect(please don't shoot me). I checked the www. and all I can find is nickles do weigh 5gs. I have a calibration weights that came with my scale so that's what I use.
    http://excelmath.com/BLOG/coinchart.pdf
     
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    Not to worry! It won't be me unleashing the dark mixing powers of..

    (Post #15 Here: http://vapingunderground.com/threads/honey-bun.200773/ )

    ..in your direction! :luck:

    Thanks for your advice and I think I'll also PM someone who has extensive "hands on" calibration experience.

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    :cheers:
    Ron
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    Lol! I'd forgotten that thread, made me giggle....
     
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    How in the Hell did he remember that! WOW! I even forgot I even concocted Honey Buns. :huh:
     
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    I just wish I also had bookmarked "somebody's" special juice shaking/mixing advice. :facepalm:

    Ron
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  36. inspects

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    Glad I happen to run across this thread, guess I need to get out of the house more often......:)

    Great info here, for us newbie mixers......!
     
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    Invaluable IMO. If I did't come across this thread I'd still be buying pre-made juices. No way would I be screwing around with buying and cleaning syringes and all that other stuff.
     
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    I may refresh your memory...are you talking about the day I put a bottle of juice in my bra and ran my butt off at work all day? Ha!
     
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    LOL I did that with a couple before, LOL!
     
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    You girls are brilliant....:D
     
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    I hear that Squonk. I still haven't bought a decent scale yet. I'm searching NOW.....:giggle:
     
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    Well, we have 2, so... :teehee:
     
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    I've used this one for almost two years and it's served me well. I have one of the popular LB-501 scales that I don't like nearly as well, so it stays in a drawer as backup. It's on eBay for $17.05 from the seller "anyvolume", and the item number is 400610537333.

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    Yes...that seems to be my recollection too! I just forgot to bookmark that VU page information...on my computer. :)

    Ron
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    Hard telling which thread that was.... :teehee:
     
  46. Markw4mms

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    I got an LB-501 a couple of weeks ago, and love it so far. It has a 10-year warranty, comes with the calibration weights, and an AC adaptor, not a bad deal for $24.
     
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    I think that's about what I paid for mine from Amazon. I think I'm just hooked on my "old reliable"...lol!
     
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    Hey, if it ain't broke, why try to fix it.:) I guess I looked at about a dozen different scales on Amazon and eBay before I decided what I was going to buy. So far, I think I made a good choice.
     
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    I've had the LB-501 for almost two years now. I bought it when I started mixing, because of the first post on this thread. I can't imagine mixing with drops or syringes, I'd have even less hair than I do now...:giggle:

    I always thought the nickel thing was for measuring ridiculously small weights, like 0.01-0.02 grams. This was so you could see the weight register as most scales won't start registering until like about 0.03. At that point I just say one drop and be done with it...
     
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    Some bottles have all the luck.:D
     
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