The place for old and not so old to chat and discuss things in the world in a civilized manner. all welcome Just try to be decent to each other. Be adults but a bit silly maybe too? We tend to gather later at night. heck we might even discuss some vaping stuff. As long as it meets forum rules no subject is forbidden, just be adult and discuss, do not name call and such please. I will personally try to avoid any partisan politics, just seems to make things run better. ........................................................................................................................................... EDIT: For clarification of behavior not desired in this thread the following is being added. I would hope that as adults we can all abide by these recommendations. I will personally have to 'bite my tongue sometimes' but that is the adult and considerate thing to do. I have also been guilty of violating these recommendations and will work to not do so again. Please keep me in line if I drift... What are friends for if not to help one another stay on a desired path. Should you wish to discuss Politics, Religion or other similar inflammatory topics there are threads for that on VU. You may see me in a political thread from time to time. RELIGION: "I have to go now and take my wife to church. I probably won't be back until later tonight." This is OK because it is not about religion, but about your daily activities. No one will be upset by it. "I am a devout Catholic and I can prove to you that Baptists are morons for misinterpreting what the Bible says." This is a NO-NO because it likely will piss off anyone who is a Baptist. It does not matter whether the poster believes he has proof; the statement is inflammatory and will probably start an argument. "The original version of John 1:1 says, 'In the beginning was the word and the word was with god and the word was a god.' The use of the article 'a' in that sentence means that there was more than one god. No article or the article 'the' implies there is only one god." This is also a NO-NO because it demands an argument and our thread is not about debating religious beliefs or interpretations. And Christianity is not the only religion on this planet, so to say "the word of god" in reference to a specific book is also likely to start an argument. POLITICS: "The FDA has put through some very unreasonable regulations regarding vaping and we need to come down hard on those assholes." This is OK because no individual or political party has been named as the villains - just some entity we call FDA (Food and Drug Administration). They are not run specifically by democrats or republicans, although they might still be members of this swamp/shadow government/evil empire <pick a nasty description>. Even though this statement is, in theory, a political statement, it is not one that is likely to cause an argument amongst those who post in this thread. "Doctors kill more people each year than all gun crime in this country and this can be statistically proven." There currently is a great push by some politicians to make the gun issue a hard political subject, but it really should not be considered as such unless you are pointing out that one specific party is trying to take away your guns, in which case it is not really the gun you are talking about, but a political party whose actions you do not like. "Hillary Clinton is a criminal and should be in prison" or "Trump sucks" or "Bernie Sanders was the best possible choice and there was a conspiracy to put him under the bus." Any time you name a specific politician and ascribe good or bad motives, intentions, actions, whether true or not, you are dangling bait in front of other readers and will start an argument. All these types of statements are NO-NOs, whether in posted text or as part of your signature. You might hate a specific individual or a specific party, and that is fine for you to have that opinion, but do not post that in this thread. Avoid any comments that are likely to start arguments or foster resentment. Also, please do not use words like "libtard," even if not talking about a specific individual. This term implies that all liberals are retards, and even if you believe that, it will be taken as degrading by someone reading this thread. Use of words like "snowflake," which is a generalism for someone who cannot handle the things life throws at him/her, is not considered a political comment. If you put both those words together (e.g., "He's a damn libtard snowflake") then you have crossed the line into the political. When in doubt, please find another word or phrase.