I just was reminded it was a Sunday pulling in to the Post Office's empty lot...o well I guess Ill wait until tomorrow...Thanks Ray...but I'm not in any hurry....take your time, it's nice not doing much on a Sunday once in a while.....
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@inspects I thought this would worth posting on this thread because it was a FEAT...I knew it would take a while to clapton it all but I was expecting to have to change out my drill battery 3 times, but I wanted to share the pictures of the wire/setup and the lot.
There's almost 800ft of 50g on that length shown, it took almost 1 and a half hours of constant wrapping with a 1800rpm drill....and it had to be done twice.
There's almost 800ft of 50g on that length shown, it took almost 1 and a half hours of constant wrapping with a 1800rpm drill....and it had to be done twice
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DAYUM!!!
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How long is that - about 6 feet?
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About 2.5ft-3ft on the pictured length, but 6ft total for 6 pairs+1 extra
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How many (if any) breakages while wrapping?
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Not a single one
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Soon SS Aliens will be available on AVS....but I have a ton to make as the demand as I hear is much more then we anticipated...
Yea we were trying to get the price as low as possible so they would be MAJOR competition...Other sites sell Aliens (Not even SS) for $20-$30 pair...and thats before shipping...The quality is as high if not better since the wire is much cleaner then most Ive used...and I may be boasting a bit but I can spin up some pretty tight alien coils
You can spin up any coil perfectly......Yea we were trying to get the price as low as possible so they would be MAJOR competition...Other sites sell Aliens (Not even SS) for $20-$30 pair...and thats before shipping...The quality is as high if not better since the wire is much cleaner then most Ive used...and I may be boasting a bit but I can spin up some pretty tight alien coils
I love these freaking coils, perfect color when pulsed, like magic.......
yeah i got th eemail from AVS today advertising alien coils made by raymo2u
i giggled.
i need to do an order there, starting to run low on wire
and want to try out their new tri braid since their vertabraid just ohms too damn low
and i want to try the triple core twisted clapton wire
and i may have to add a pair of rays aliens just to see what its like.
now @raymo2u i have a question
they CLAIM that their triple core parralell clapton wire is close to an alien..its an alien without the wavy wrap. how big of a difference do you feel the shape of the outer wrap makes for flavor
i giggled.
i need to do an order there, starting to run low on wire
and want to try out their new tri braid since their vertabraid just ohms too damn low
and i want to try the triple core twisted clapton wire
and i may have to add a pair of rays aliens just to see what its like.
now @raymo2u i have a question
they CLAIM that their triple core parralell clapton wire is close to an alien..its an alien without the wavy wrap. how big of a difference do you feel the shape of the outer wrap makes for flavor
The cores make up the surface area, heatflux, and duration of ramp up. The outerwrap effect wicking mostly but also can change on how flavor is perceived by adding extra "pockets and crevices" for juice to evaporate in and out from. I will honestly tell you the a Alien coil performs much differently then a Triple Parallel coil...even though without the wrap its the same...it behaves, ramps and stays at temps differently then its counterpart.
I havent tried braided wire for vaping, though I have been trying to braid myself some decent wire...
My personal favorite coil is a Alien Framed Staple...there arent many coils that compare in the way it vapes...
Yes its a Framed Staple with Alien Wrapping.
Framed Staple is a "Staple" (Stacked Ribbon Wire) "Framed" with Round wire. The term "Staple" was used becuase the Ribbon the wire itself looks like staples in a pack...like below:
See the resemblance?
Alien Framed Staples:
Incredible image, Ray.....when I get the next order I'll use my FLIR thermal imaging camera to take some pictures of how the coils heat prior to use, or better yet a video, and email it to you. I'd bet the heat signatures will be astounding in an infrared image. Was going to do that in the past but forgot about it....was in too much of a hurry to get the coils on an atty to vape.......Yes its a Framed Staple with Alien Wrapping.
Framed Staple is a "Staple" (Stacked Ribbon Wire) "Framed" with Round wire. The term "Staple" was used becuase the Ribbon the wire itself looks like staples in a pack...like below:
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See the resemblance?
Alien Framed Staples:
That would be AWESOME...would love to see a comparison for a few different coils sometime...maybe in the future Ill send a few that I feel are great contenders in a match for best vape and your thermal video could show whyIncredible image, Ray.....when I get the next order I'll use my FLIR thermal imaging camera to take some pictures of how the coils heat prior to use, or better yet a video, and email it to you. I'd bet the heat signatures will be astounding in an infrared image. Was going to do that in the past but forgot about it....was in too much of a hurry to get the coils on an atty to vape.......
Indeed it would..!
+1 vouchYea we were trying to get the price as low as possible so they would be MAJOR competition...Other sites sell Aliens (Not even SS) for $20-$30 pair...and thats before shipping...The quality is as high if not better since the wire is much cleaner then most Ive used...and I may be boasting a bit but I can spin up some pretty tight alien coils
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Im not sure what your asking...For what measurement? Its not like a Alien, you just put it together and clapton it.
If you mean for what Ribbon size, for what Frame Size...here
.3R use 30g Frames
.4R use 28g Frames
.5R use 26g Frames
Sorry, I was terribly unclear. For alien coils, if using 3 cores of 26g, you make the alien wrap by doing a clapton using a 26g core before stretching. For alien framed staples, how do you figure this out?
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Damn it! I didn't get a .3r! I was planning on putting it on my series box and I specced out 30g frames and .4r!
Edit: my bad re specced and it will still work!
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It could work but you may need to tape them up for them to stay centered...try twisting 2 x 30g or claptoning it with 40g then use it as frames...should be similar to 28g after either way.
.4R with 28g Framing
I think I'll be able to make something work in single coil with the initial sizes to use in round Wire vs ribbon. Been waiting a week for my package to arrive!
How do you figure out which core to wrap the alien clapton for your framed staple aliens? So if that's 2x28g frames, 4x.4 I clapton it around 28g still? Or it really doesn't matter anymore?
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For Alien wrapped staples the best way is to take what ever core your using for the clapton, then line 3 next to each other and then match that size with the amount of Ribbon. A 28g Alien Framed Staple (Most Gauges use the same rule) you can have between 5-8 pieces of Ribbon in the Center if your using the same gauge frames.
ok those look interesting
now am what i think i am seeing what i am seeing
to me it looks like you are dramatically increasing surface area by building the coil in an radfial direction(away from the center of the actula col) versus most coils i see which add surface are by making each wrap wider.
so to me it seems you can add more wire ,raise resistance,add surface arean etc to the coil by building outwardly this way fitting more wire and wraps on the same deck then by building the coil wider
now am what i think i am seeing what i am seeing
to me it looks like you are dramatically increasing surface area by building the coil in an radfial direction(away from the center of the actula col) versus most coils i see which add surface are by making each wrap wider.
so to me it seems you can add more wire ,raise resistance,add surface arean etc to the coil by building outwardly this way fitting more wire and wraps on the same deck then by building the coil wider
Yea Im trying to upload a ton of builds right now...hold off for a minute
well first off i have to say this
i dotn now if its camera angle or what
but those mohawk things for me...make everything else you posted look boring
its just the way they catch my eye,, i know some of the other stuff ismuch more complicated to build and more time consuming. but i think those mohaks ar ethe coolest looking coil i have ever seen
to me it look slike thos emohawks
add wire,surface area and resistance in a different way.
instead of adding it making each wrap take up more room between the post
they utilize the space everywhere else allowing more wraps and wire to fit between the posts
i dotn now if its camera angle or what
but those mohawk things for me...make everything else you posted look boring
its just the way they catch my eye,, i know some of the other stuff ismuch more complicated to build and more time consuming. but i think those mohaks ar ethe coolest looking coil i have ever seen
to me it look slike thos emohawks
add wire,surface area and resistance in a different way.
instead of adding it making each wrap take up more room between the post
they utilize the space everywhere else allowing more wraps and wire to fit between the posts
The crazy thing is....Ive never even vaped on one yet
Couldnt tell you if they were any better then a normal Alien or not...But I do have a few other pics that you may enjoy with them....this time Paralleled with a Normal Alien...I love this first shot though, I feel its one of the best pics Ive ever taken...remember every pics Ive taken on this forum or anywhere is with a 6 year old Samsung Galaxy S3 with a Macro clip on....
well vape it and tell me
then five the mohawk a mohawk
or start iwth2 mohoaks
and give each 2 more mohaks
and each with its own
get creative
these are more eye appealing cuz they add more dimension
all thi sis my opinion
even without the colors
everything else seems boring to look at
well some braided stuff still looks interesting
then five the mohawk a mohawk
or start iwth2 mohoaks
and give each 2 more mohaks
and each with its own
get creative
these are more eye appealing cuz they add more dimension
all thi sis my opinion
even without the colors
everything else seems boring to look at
well some braided stuff still looks interesting
Give it a try
Sorry raymo l don't see coils l see jewellery! I make wire jewellery as a hobby and l recognise many of your amazing techniques on a miniature scale truly amazing. I will now read this thread from the start to pick up some tips. May make more jewellery then coils though.
For some odd reason some attys and a few coils look awful familiar ha ha nice work man idk how the heck you pull these coils off.
Someone that isnt allowed here anymore kept telling others, including myself to try some Multicore Cat Tracks....Im trying a Multicore Framed Variation and even though he cant read this (maybe) I want to thank him openly and that it reacts much differently then the ones I was making beforehand.
I beat the Wire with a normal masonry hammer and used a large wrench as a anvil....Maybe I should invest in a nice Brass Jeweler's Hammer and Anvil??
SPECS: 20 x 36N80/26g 316L/32N80 (4 Wraps/3.5mm ID @ .11 Ohms Single Coil)
I beat the Wire with a normal masonry hammer and used a large wrench as a anvil....Maybe I should invest in a nice Brass Jeweler's Hammer and Anvil??
SPECS: 20 x 36N80/26g 316L/32N80 (4 Wraps/3.5mm ID @ .11 Ohms Single Coil)
