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Which US Presidential candidate will you be voting for?


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chopdoc

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Nothing like government funded opposition research for the 2020 election.
That's why I want to see the milspec counterintel, police, investigators tracing down thru this shit - not the DOJ or feebs.

Run it down, nail them to the cross, string them up - and can we please movethefuckalong?

Note: I just decided today that our southern border is a fine place for all live-fire practice by all services - post the signs, make it so. Next?
 

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That's why I want to see the milspec counterintel, police, investigators tracing down thru this shit - not the DOJ or feebs.

Run it down, nail them to the cross, string them up - and can we please movethefuckalong?

Note: I just decided today that our southern border is a fine place for all live-fire practice by all services - post the signs, make it so. Next?


I dont want to see a milspec anything for the simple reason we are not a police state, we are a republic with laws and those who broke the laws I want to see brought to justice as much as anyone. Our system has many flaws but it also works real well. Mueller is behind us and now its Trumps turn. Thats what I keep telling myself because I am also pissed none of the liberals have yet to see any justice. Yet I believe in America and our justice system. Lets give Trump and Barr a chance to get all the T's crossed and I's dotted and see what comes down the pike in the next few months. Knowing Trump, he wont disappoint us.
 

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I dont want to see a milspec anything for the simple reason we are not a police state, we are a republic with laws and those who broke the laws I want to see brought to justice as much as anyone. Our system has many flaws but it also works real well. Mueller is behind us and now its Trumps turn. Thats what I keep telling myself because I am also pissed none of the liberals have yet to see any justice. Yet I believe in America and our justice system. Lets give Trump and Barr a chance to get all the T's crossed and I's dotted and see what comes down the pike in the next few months. Knowing Trump, he wont disappoint us.
What I WANT is Rev 2.0 and a shitload of culling and stonewall/rope action

What I will ACCEPT is a branch totally out of the political-bias-chain investigating to do the footwork, review crimes vs const/oaths, and clean the fuckers OUT. Not more goose-grease over soy-burger bullshit. Check out TREASON - not civil-bullshit. This is why I would be 100% against officers investigating - NCO's only. Screw "rude" and "connected" - investigate, report, apply. OVER.

They've been perverting the civil legal system for almost 100 years - clean it up, reset, move on. Almost anyone ex-mil already knows "military make terrible Rulers/Politicians" - and that is NOT THE GOAL. Apply the Constiution and BOR as well as the UCMJ and just get it done.

The issue here is: everyone thinks the congresscritters are immune to both - they are not.
 

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You will never see "affordable healthcare" when you cater to EVERY problem and TONS of useless meat.

I've benefited at least twice by being broken, but a taxpayer, and meriting repairs - and gee, I mean BROKEN - not "oh, golly, I got a cold/splinter/wart". TRIAGE is something no one wants to consider. VALUE is another.
 

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I dont want to see a milspec anything for the simple reason we are not a police state, we are a republic with laws and those who broke the laws I want to see brought to justice as much as anyone. Our system has many flaws but it also works real well. Mueller is behind us and now its Trumps turn. Thats what I keep telling myself because I am also pissed none of the liberals have yet to see any justice. Yet I believe in America and our justice system. Lets give Trump and Barr a chance to get all the T's crossed and I's dotted and see what comes down the pike in the next few months. Knowing Trump, he wont disappoint us.
All you gotta do is look at Chicago today to see Black Lives Matter out in Force clashing w/ CPD Police Union over them protesting the actions of crooked prosecutor Kim Foxx's obvious Corruption in dismissing all 17 Felony charges handed down lawfully by a Grand Jury against a Hate Crime Hoaxer C rate actor that everyone knows is guilty & lying his ass off to know there is no way to expect to see justice served against the Conspirators in a Treasonous & Seditious Coup in concert with foreign powers in the EU Against a Sitting President led by his predecessor & a woman guilty of more crimes against humanity & America, who sold secrets to the enemies than any other living person in history in the bought off corrupt civilian court system without massive riots breaking out in all the illegal sanctuary cities. You try them in Civilian Court, They will game the system & get off or you will bring about a Civil War they incite to avoid justice.

In matters of Treason & Sedition it is well established precedent that it is conducted in a military tribunal & this is the biggest most disgusting scandal in US History. These are not civilins, but government officers under multiple oaths which are administered under UCMJ.

Have to say I respectfully disagree.
 
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chopdoc

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All you gotta do is look at Chicago today to see Black Lives Matter out in Force clashing w/ CPD Police Union over them protesting the actions of crooked prosecutor Kim Foxx's obvious Corruption in dismissing all 17 Felony charges handed down lawfully by a Grand Jury against a Hate Crime Hoaxer C rate actor that everyone knows is guilty & lying his ass off to know there is no way to expect to see justice served against the Conspirators in a Treasonous & Seditious Coup in concert with foreign powers in the EU Against a Sitting President led by his predecessor & a woman guilty of more crimes against humanity & America, who sold secrets to the enemies than any other living person in history in the bought off corrupt civilian court system without massive riots breaking out in all the illegal sanctuary cities. You try them in Civilian Court, They will game the system & get off or you will bring about a Civil War they incite to avoid justice.

In matters of Treason & Sedition it is well established precedent that it is conducted in a military tribunal & this is the biggest most disgusting scandal in US History. These are not civilins, but government officers under multiple oaths which are administered under UCMJ.

Have to say I respectfully disagree.


If they ever convened a military tribune on these shores then America will be no more. That will mean we as a nation have failed.
 

Tpat591

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If they ever convened a military tribune on these shores then America will be no more. That will mean we as a nation have failed.
That is why Guantanamo is still in operation. After Lincoln's assassination 2 US Congressman involved in the plot were tried on US soil & executed for Treason. The Union used military tribunals during and in the immediate aftermath of the American Civil War. Military tribunals were used to try Native Americans who fought the United States during those Indian Wars which occurred during the Civil War; the thirty-eight people who were executed after the Dakota War of 1862 were sentenced by a military tribunal. American Saboteurs who collaborated w/ the Nazi during ww2 were tried by military & a couple were executed.There are other examples I'm not going to list.

After 9-11 many of those involved here passed the laws that allowed Tribunals to be used in this manner on us & declared a state of emergency that still exists today, they legalized mass data collection on every citizen FISA Courts, 5Is handshake agreements to spy on our members of congress & govt, Instituted covert mass data collection through covert private tech companies owned by the CIA in violation of the Constitution & then they broke the very laws they passed knowingly in collusion with a foreign power sewed rebellion in the streets with ANTIFA, openly made calls to harass members of government, corrupted the very institutions of the clandestine services, CIA, FBI, DOJ, State Department & Sitting Judges to rebel against the POTUS administration in collusion with them, colluded with foreign powers, sold secrets to foreign powers & facilitated an invasion of our southern border that is still ongoing and escalating with future plans of it leading to an armed invasion with military equipment that is reportedly secretly positioned in Mexico& don't forget the Mexican president campaigned on Mexicans having a right to invade the USA to take back their captured lands.


Can't think of a better wake up call to American Citizens than to ensure that nothing like this ever happens again but to use the laws upheld by our highest court in the land to prosecute them in Guantanamo just as they had in mind for us. True civilian Constitutional law does not allow for secret proceedings as used in FISAC & National secrecy. That is a bastardization of Constitutional law. At the very least using the military courts as they intended will expose that & perhaps true Constitutional law will one day return to the "land of the free & home of the brave" once again as a result.

Perhaps that is exactly what Trump is trying to facilitate by exposing its existence undeniably shining the light of truth on the evils currently existing for the American People to realize exactly what we have lost from what the founders envisioned. Perhaps he will expose our original unmodified Constitution instead of the copies rewritten by the British in 1812 & 1870 in doing so to allow common civilian law, return civilian right of land ownership, assume ownership of our military, essential infrastructre, government land, assets & ports from foreign & disguised foreign corporate ownership, clean our government of SES Rothschild uses to control our government, scatter the CIA into 1000 pieces as Kennedy intended, issue real money backed by gold & silver, abolish unconstitutional income tax, restore unimpeded freedom of travel within our borders, true privacy, freedom of speech & uninfringed 2A, and ownership of our government shared by every Legal Citizen once again & remove our chattel status as assets of the United States of America, Inc., etc, etc....
 
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Tpat591

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With everything that has gone on, I kinda wouldnt put it past them. Look at Smollett lawyers squawking about suing Chicago PD for false arrest. These fuckers are crazy :giggle:
He thinks, like all the others, running in 2020 will protect him from arrest. That's why they are doing it, plan is to accuse Trump of arresting his opposition in the election & accuse him of seeking to become a dictator in violation of the Constitution in order to Impeach him if any of them are arrested for their litany of documented crimes..
 
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PoppaVic

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You'll notice that THEIR plan requires the assistance of our own military - which I am not even 50/50 sure they would get.
Even so, they'd have to rely mostly on militarized cops:

  • The military never really LOVED their civilian masters, but when those masters disgust them all they can do is try to decide between OATH and their own UCMJ
  • They can no longer rely on the cops - many counties and sheriffs are creating their own BOR-sanctuaries and their states fume and decry it.
  • Sure, the world - let alone our own country - watched Ruby Ridge and the rest. The feebs had some respect left at the time and it all got whitewashed. That sorta' trust is just about gone.
  • The can't even really move Tanks across our country anymore - our rail system is a slo-mo joke
  • And, we've ONE tank-plant in the entire country. One.
  • SIGINT? sure, they got google and FB in their pocket - we have legions of folks that have kept their heads down for decades.
  • Close off the telco's and net? Um, good plan - the civilians have ham and satellites as well.
  • Close down interstate transportation? Yeah, that's working so well for the fucking borders.

Go ahead. Their only possible choice is propaganda and those lovely early-morning raids where they send a dozen guys in black and masks to escort out an old guy and his deaf wife - in tees and nighties.. How many times will that work before word gets out - screw MSM - and folks see the writing on the wall?

Happily, this country has managed to not only edit but stop teaching History - and those that know it are well aware of it.
 

Tpat591

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You'll notice that THEIR plan requires the assistance of our own military - which I am not even 50/50 sure they would get.
Even so, they'd have to rely mostly on militarized cops:

  • The military never really LOVED their civilian masters, but when those masters disgust them all they can do is try to decide between OATH and their own UCMJ
  • They can no longer rely on the cops - many counties and sheriffs are creating their own BOR-sanctuaries and their states fume and decry it.
  • Sure, the world - let alone our own country - watched Ruby Ridge and the rest. The feebs had some respect left at the time and it all got whitewashed. That sorta' trust is just about gone.
  • The can't even really move Tanks across our country anymore - our rail system is a slo-mo joke
  • And, we've ONE tank-plant in the entire country. One.
  • SIGINT? sure, they got google and FB in their pocket - we have legions of folks that have kept their heads down for decades.
  • Close off the telco's and net? Um, good plan - the civilians have ham and satellites as well.
  • Close down interstate transportation? Yeah, that's working so well for the fucking borders.

Go ahead. Their only possible choice is propaganda and those lovely early-morning raids where they send a dozen guys in black and masks to escort out an old guy and his deaf wife - in tees and nighties.. How many times will that work before word gets out - screw MSM - and folks see the writing on the wall?

Happily, this country has managed to not only edit but stop teaching History - and those that know it are well aware of it.
Their plan always involved UN, China & Mexico Peacekeepers to be deployed on US soil to disarm the citizenry after Syria & NK had all our military bogged down abroad in 2 ever escalating wars that ended in a limited nuclear exchange w. Russia that wiped out most of it & large areas of the US. Trump isn't playing their game though at least not yet. Time for arrests now! Arrest someone for the love of Christ!
 

chopdoc

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Their plan always involved UN, China & Mexico Peacekeepers to be deployed on US soil to disarm the citizenry after Syria & NK had all our military bogged down abroad in 2 ever escalating wars that ended in a limited nuclear exchange w. Russia that wiped out most of it & large areas of the US. Trump isn't playing their game though at least not yet. Time for arrests now! Arrest someone for the love of Christ!

Man, that is about shit awe stupid. It doesnt matter if our military s bogged down or not, if the UN trys to confiscate guns the shit will hit the fan.

Yall know there is a reason the Japanese did not invade our west coast. The was afraid because they knew we the people was armed. The liberals need to wake the hell up and realize this. We will not become unarmed peacefully.
 

Tpat591

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Man, that is about shit awe stupid. It doesnt matter if our military s bogged down or not, if the UN trys to confiscate guns the shit will hit the fan.

Yall know there is a reason the Japanese did not invade our west coast. The was afraid because they knew we the people was armed. The liberals need to wake the hell up and realize this. We will not become unarmed peacefully.
A gun behind every blade of grass

Obama signed a Un Red Law Pact & an Executive order in 2016, by passing Congressional approval, to allow UN troops to operate on US Soil to pave the way for the invasion By UN Troops to disarm US Citizens. Not a joke. He even per-positioned UN troops & equipment on Disused Army Bases under the guise of training. As far as I know many are still in place. Large #s of Chinese troops in Cali & NATO Peacekeepers in Bases on East Coast. Supposedly Ghost Army Bases of propositioned Russian & Chinese Military Equipment W/ hundreds of tanks, APCs & arms that were manufactured by the auto plants that moved from the US to Mexico & staged under camouflage the CIA was aware of for years but the bases are only staffed w/ skeleton crews that maintain everything.

Obama Administration and UN Announce Global Police Force to Fight ‘Extremism’ In U.S.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...lobal-police-force-to-fight-extremism-in-u-s/


Executive Order: United Nations allowed to use Force on US Citizens

https://wearechange.org/executive-order-united-nations-allowed-use-force-us-citizens/


INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES KNOW THAT AT LEAST 12 CHINESE MILITARY BASES ARE OPERATING IN NORTHERN MEXICO

All ties in W/ GHWB's & Clinton's FEMA Camps w/ crematoria & Wamart FEMA Detention Centers. This has all been planned for Decades.
 
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