I feel like half the time vaping normally.Am I a Pro Cloud Chaser now?
My argument IS, that there are already laws that are supposed to stop kids from getting free access. Shop owners are skirting the law. Vendors are skirting the law. In some cases, attracting kids to use their gear and juices.
This is something that has already been claimed by the media. These retailers are on an all out rush, to get every penny, from ANYPLACE they can. There WILL be laws much more strict, because of the outright greed. Because SOME are pandering to kids, to get their money too.
Parents can NOT be everywhere, and so the government WILL step in. Blaming the parents 100% is disingenuous. Vapers with the attitude, who gives a fuck, OR, it's all the parents fault, are leading the charge for more regulation. They are being unreasonable, and they will be ignored.
Untrue.
Any dolt can go to walmart and buy a credit card. They sell them everyday.
There is no distinction from the CC readers, from a disposable Visa CC and one from a CC company. They are all the same when you run them.
The hipsters and young dipshits have killed off vaping at the local bar scene where I live. A local Indy Coffee House on my way to work just banned vaping because of hipsters and high school and younger kids fogging up the upstairs lounge. This is a place where the local heads would congregate and vaporize some dope, now they put a fucking camera in the upstairs lounge. Entitlement minded assholes do more damage to vaping than any other group. Just because you can blow a big cloud doesn't make you a victim of discrimination when the owners of the shop tell you and the other dorks to stop. If folks want to cloud chase, not a problem go for it, but remember common courtesy.I support this.
Now if we could just get rid of the dipshiters I mean hipsters that fog anywhere we would be golden. But damn I love dropping a weather system right in their faces to wipe the smug off their mugs.
Access is no issue. The credit card is moot. They can buy weed at walmart too.
All sorts of bad things are available to kids. That is the real world. Parents are not required raise kids in a padded room. The kids are to be taught to avoid these things despite being available. That is parenting. Will it always work? Nope. But since it is impossible to make these things unavailable, it's the best option.
Ranting about availability solves nothing. It's your own personal crusade. I doubt very much that kids that don't listen to their parents are going to listen to you.
Beat your kid's ass and you go to jail... need more ass beating laws on the books.. lack of ass beatings is the root of this decline.Well, you can cry it's all the parents fault, all you want. While I agree, good parenting plays a role in that, it will not prevent kids from doing things the majority of parents DON'T want kids doing.
Like with alcohol and tobacco, there WILL be laws now, because people like you are unreasonable. I say unreasonable, because your rant about parents being the whole issue, isn't reality. And your throwing a tantrum about "bad parents" won't stop the tide that is coming. You completely fail to see, vendors and sellers are the ones bringing this because of their greed. Even Tripster points out the REAL world problem of these internet losers, in such a tizzy to be idolized, will do anything to get people to boost their ego, even if they ARE children.
CLEARLY no one in this industry gives a flying fuck if kids are vaping. They are busy blaming the wrong people, with ALL the fault. Yes, parents share SOME blame. But we all can see, if they didn't have OPEN access, kids wouldn't be using it, would they?
Alcohol is illegal for kids to have. But they get it when dumb asses break the law, to buy it for them. They can sit in the grey bar motel for it. There are consequences for the action.
So I couldn't give a shit, of your opinion. You are wrong, and you'll see in the end of this, who is right. Politicians will get their way, because people like you are UNREASONABLE. You'll hold ZERO ground in any debate of law, with your attitude. No one will listen. Your rainbow farting unicorn, will never come to be. Laws WILL be passed, because reasonable people DON'T want their kids vaping. Blaming them is just stupid.
Yes and no.Beat your kid's ass and you go to jail... need more ass beating laws on the books.. lack of ass beatings is the root of this decline.
Well, you can cry it's all the parents fault, all you want. While I agree, good parenting plays a role in that, it will not prevent kids from doing things the majority of parents DON'T want kids doing.
Like with alcohol and tobacco, there WILL be laws now, because people like you are unreasonable. I say unreasonable, because your rant about parents being the whole issue, isn't reality. And your throwing a tantrum about "bad parents" won't stop the tide that is coming. You completely fail to see, vendors and sellers are the ones bringing this because of their greed. Even Tripster points out the REAL world problem of these internet losers, in such a tizzy to be idolized, will do anything to get people to boost their ego, even if they ARE children.
CLEARLY no one in this industry gives a flying fuck if kids are vaping. They are busy blaming the wrong people, with ALL the fault. Yes, parents share SOME blame. But we all can see, if they didn't have OPEN access, kids wouldn't be using it, would they?
Alcohol is illegal for kids to have. But they get it when dumb asses break the law, to buy it for them. They can sit in the grey bar motel for it. There are consequences for the action.
So I couldn't give a shit, of your opinion. You are wrong, and you'll see in the end of this, who is right. Politicians will get their way, because people like you are UNREASONABLE. You'll hold ZERO ground in any debate of law, with your attitude. No one will listen. Your rainbow farting unicorn, will never come to be. Laws WILL be passed, because reasonable people DON'T want their kids vaping. Blaming them is just stupid.
Kids will do whatever they want. But especially so, if there is free access to something they want to do.
As gramps always said.. a whooped ass clears the ears out and pulls the head out of your butt.Yes and no.
Kids will do whatever they want. But especially so, if there is free access to something they want to do.
Actually, your not grasping the "real world". I'm not ASKING for laws. I'm telling you why the laws are coming. People like you with your head planted firmly UP YOUR ASS. You choose to be blind, as to why they are coming. You seem to be blind how the average family lives.Your making my argument for me again.
Even if it's not free access, they are going to do it. They can buy VG at Walmart.
Your crusade is an effort of futility.
Actually, your not grasping the "real world". I'm not ASKING for laws. I'm telling you why the laws are coming. People like you with your head planted firmly UP YOUR ASS. You choose to be blind, as to why they are coming. You seem to be blind how the average family lives.
Mom and Dad are BOTH working. They have to, to survive and thrive. We are a GLOBAL economy. Baring the laws in regards to alcohol, any dip shit could have it delivered to their door step. Any kid can get a CC at walmart.
So while it's a great idea, that the parents SHOULD be guiding their kids the whole way, they are NOT the only role models in a kids life. They never have been. YOU are the one out of touch. It's not the 50's anymore, like it or not. Whip your child's ass now, and see what you get.
The reality IS, parents have less control then they used to have. And they will support these laws, because it's the only option they really have to stop Johhny and Jane from freely getting their hands on vape gear and juice.
The vape community as a whole, seems to miss all this. Instead of supporting a law banning kids from possessing vape stuff, they instead stomp about like a child having a fit about "their rights". Like that child, unless you are reasonable with the other side, you will be left out of the conversation. I have been saying this for some time, and it seems like far too many aren't listening. Everyone will soon see in the short term, what I mean. The laws are coming, and the vape community will NOT be listened to.
What a load of horseshit.
My kids don't vape. My neibors kids don't vape and both parents have jobs. My brothers kids don't vape and both parents have jobs. My sisters kid doesn't vape and both parents have jobs. How do you explain the kids that don't vape? It's as available to them as it is the kids that do. The only difference between the kids that vape and the ones that don't are,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,the parents. Everything else is the same.
Maybe you were born yesterday and think you were born in Utopia. It takes a village, huh?
The laws are coming because parents don't think they need to be parents because people like you give them a pass for what their kids do. It's the vape shops and internets fault their kids vape, not theirs. It's the drug dealers fault their kids are m*th heads, not theirs. The laws are coming for the same reason all ridiculous laws came. People want the government to do what they fail at, keeping their kids safe. The only problem is, the government fails at it too. But that's cool. Now the parents have somebody else to blame instead of themselves.
And the laws are coming because government backed corporations want the laws for a lock on the industry.
No, I'm not the one whining and ranting about vaping kids. You are. The laws are coming because you and every other do-gooder is whining and ranting about kids vaping. You are asking for the laws. That you are not bright enough to recognize that you are asking for the laws is irrelevant. I'm fine with the way things are. You are ranting for change. You are making the same argument that those that want laws make. It's the vape shop's fault. It's the cloud chasers fault. It's the internets fault. Same argument you are making. To me, if you sing the same song they do, then you are asking for the same thing they do.
How many kids do you have?I explain it simply as this. You are in denial. If your kids HAVEN'T tried vaping yet, they will. Just like they will try alcohol and pot at some point.
Unless you are homescooling your kids and keeping them locked to the confines of your home, your kids are doing things and you are too stupid to realize it.
No kid is a baby jesus. Not even yours. They all do shit they shouldn't. And you think you have control of them? LOL!
By your flawed logic, we don't NEED laws for drugs, a legal age to drink, or much of any other law. It all boils down to parenting. LMAO. What a nincompoop.
How many kids do you have?
Two times zero equals zero.Twice as many as you.....
What? I don't even know what that means. I was just asking you a question. Why do you have to be so awful about everything?No, your pussy counts as a "kid" to you, doesn't it?
Mine are real though. Not pets.
The picture of you and your cat...... Are you just that scatter brained, or is it an act?What? I don't even know what that means. I was just asking you a question. Why do you have to be so awful about everything?
That photo was taken over ten years ago. The cat's long dead. So back to reality. You have two kids then?The picture of you and your cat...... Are you just that scatter brained, or is it an act?
I like to blow clouds when i'm at home or really far away from other people.
But to do it as a sport?
These guys might as well stand in a line, have someone take a ruler and measure their dicks.
Cloud Chasing IS a "my dick is bigger than yours" contest.
I explain it simply as this. You are in denial. If your kids HAVEN'T tried vaping yet, they will. Just like they will try alcohol and pot at some point.
Unless you are homescooling your kids and keeping them locked to the confines of your home, your kids are doing things and you are too stupid to realize it.
No kid is a baby jesus. Not even yours. They all do shit they shouldn't. And you think you have control of them? LOL!
By your flawed logic, we don't NEED laws for drugs, a legal age to drink, or much of any other law. It all boils down to parenting. LMAO. What a nincompoop.
I appreciated that style of parenting and I think if I ever did become a parent, which isn't very likely at my age, I would most certainly let my kids vape so that I could have an honest relationship with them and so they know they don't have to hide things from me.
Weed at Wal-Mart???? Which Wal-Mart are you shopping at?Access is no issue. The credit card is moot. They can buy weed at walmart too.
All sorts of bad things are available to kids. That is the real world. Parents are not required raise kids in a padded room. The kids are to be taught to avoid these things despite being available. That is parenting. Will it always work? Nope. But since it is impossible to make these things unavailable, it's the best option.
Ranting about availability solves nothing. It's your own personal crusade. I doubt very much that kids that don't listen to their parents are going to listen to you.
I thought you were done arguing many posts ago mr. Gotta get the last word.That photo was taken over ten years ago. The cat's long dead. So back to reality. You have two kids then?
In ColoradoWeed at Wal-Mart???? Which Wal-Mart are you shopping at?
Hey, yippee, CrazyVpr is back. Maybe you should scroll all the way to the top and see whose thread this is.I thought you were done arguing many posts ago mr. Gotta get the last word.
Wow....Wow I had no idea, couldn't do that here in the great state of Utah LOL
LOL....LOL. Your reply is that all kids vape?
Your responses get more ridiculous by the post.
How are those drug and alcohol laws working out for you? Kids still drink and do drugs don't they? Just not the ones that were taught that it's a bad idea. Once again, the parents are the difference.
LOL....
You think the kids that ARE doing stuff they shouldn't, you think they are doing those things with their mom and dad? How many of those parents taught those kids, that it was a "bad idea"?
You are so out of touch, it pathetic. You think that because you tell little Johnny or Jane NOT to do evil drugs, or smoke, or vape, or drink, that magically they never will... Because you cared enough to tell them? LMFAO!
I bet you would shit your pants, if you saw what your kids are doing, when you aren't around.
The drug and alcohol laws are working ok. People are going to jail for breaking the law. They are learning there are consequences for bad acts. They work the same as other laws. Punishing people who do stupid things.
Never implied they were. But I will say, IF we could get a honest poll, I bet more kids try vaping then used to try smoking. By a large margin.You still haven't answered the question. You think all kids vape?
There are already all sorts of polls that have been conducted and no such conclusion was made.Never implied they were. But I will say, IF we could get a honest poll, I bet more kids try vaping then used to try smoking. By a large margin.
THAT is concerning to parents. They don't want their children vaping. Only parents that prefer the role of "buddy" as opposed to parent, would support their kids vaping.
Never implied they were. But I will say, IF we could get a honest poll, I bet more kids try vaping then used to try smoking. By a large margin.
THAT is concerning to parents. They don't want their children vaping. Only parents that prefer the role of "buddy" as opposed to parent, would support their kids vaping.
Oooohhh wow. Your thread. Fancy. I'm so impressed. Congrats. Now I respect and admire you so much. You are the man. So proud of you.Hey, yippee, CrazyVpr is back. Maybe you should scroll all the way to the top and see whose thread this is.
Alot more goes into how a kid turns out then just parenting. It is the biggest part, but not all of it. Do all of you blame your parents for the day you started smoking?
Access is no issue. The credit card is moot. They can buy weed at walmart too.
All sorts of bad things are available to kids. That is the real world. Parents are not required raise kids in a padded room. The kids are to be taught to avoid these things despite being available. That is parenting. Will it always work? Nope. But since it is impossible to make these things unavailable, it's the best option.
Ranting about availability solves nothing. It's your own personal crusade. I doubt very much that kids that don't listen to their parents are going to listen to you.
There is no solution. If there were, no one would smoke do drugs, kill, steal. Or anything else that most parents don't want their kids doing.You might try reading the posts better.
@freemind has offered no solution. All he has done is rant. Laws are no solution. It was illegal when most of us started smoking but we still did it. Ranting about it is no solution. The only solution if parents don't want their children vaping is for the parents to be vigilant and put a stop to it.
So,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,what is your solution?
You might want to try getting of your soapbox and acting like a dildo.You might try reading the posts better.
@freemind has offered no solution. All he has done is rant. Laws are no solution. It was illegal when most of us started smoking but we still did it. Ranting about it is no solution. The only solution if parents don't want their children vaping is for the parents to be vigilant and put a stop to it.
So,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,what is your solution?
You might want to try getting of your soapbox and acting like a dildo.