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Is there a God?
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Yep. You've talked smack with more people than just me without getting banned. All I did was edit a couple words out of your post that you decided you needed to save to prove how unfair we are and how much alike we are to ECF. So yeah. I'm sure. Wanna cuss me out again? Feel free. I'll be here a while.Are you sure?
I taught my son that when we potty broke him. Kids hung like dad.
I always thought the reference to (outside area) referred to actually going outside...Then again I was never a member of ECF so that is where my confusion stems from.
Religions were invented by a few smart people, in order to control a lot of stupid people.
Is there a god? Well, maybe. Maybe not. I dont know, you dont know, nobody knows. Its certainly a nice thought I suppose. Its probably nice to believe in something like that with the blind faith a lot of people have for it. Im certainly not religious, I dont believe any of the shit any religion preaches as fact, but at the same time, I accept the possibility that there could be some kind of "god" out there somewhere. Weather that god is the bearded white man in the sky, an advanced alien race, or some kind of pure energy, whatever, I dont know, but Im open to it all.
The problem with religion is the blind faith people put into it and how it hinders progress. I mean, if you already know how everything works, theres no reason to look into it. You cant find an answer if you have no questions. There needs to be questions to ask and answers to look for. If you wanna say God did everything and created everything, then science is slowly making God smaller, bit by bit, as we learn what really causes everything. Just take religion as what it is, a good way to guide your life with good moral principles and upstanding character. Dont take it as literal fact and the explaination to life, the origin, and the universe. Otherwise religion will be snuffed out totally by science when we find more answers.
The problem with religion is the blind faith people put into it and how it hinders progress. I mean, if you already know how everything works, theres no reason to look into it. You cant find an answer if you have no questions. There needs to be questions to ask and answers to look for. If you wanna say God did everything and created everything, then science is slowly making God smaller, bit by bit, as we learn what really causes everything. Just take religion as what it is, a good way to guide your life with good moral principles and upstanding character. Dont take it as literal fact and the explaination to life, the origin, and the universe. Otherwise religion will be snuffed out totally by science when we find more answers.
that's a cute little puppy... and another of God's creations
Not to get on your case, more like get on the people who decided to breed in those "cute" qualities into GODS creation.
But man seems to think that handicapping an animal so we can go oooh and awe over the forever puppy like features without realizing those bug eyes and flat face cause breathing problems which in turn gives the cutie heart problems and obesity problems, hip and all sorts of problems as it ages. Most pugs end up in pain and misery as they age.
God created this
and we distorted it into this
Touche
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Not to get on your case, more like get on the people who decided to breed in those "cute" qualities into GODS creation.
But man seems to think that handicapping an animal so we can go oooh and awe over the forever puppy like features without realizing those bug eyes and flat face cause breathing problems which in turn gives the cutie heart problems and obesity problems, hip and all sorts of problems as it ages. Most pugs end up in pain and misery as they age.
God created this
and we distorted it into this
personally I think the little dog looks gross
Nope, no cussing. Your words didn't match your actions. Pointing it out seemed,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,appropriate. You know, cuz I said I would.
Carry on.
Thank you for letting me know, i just saw it and did not notice that any of that subject was touched on.
Funny, I was on THAT other thread for 4 years and I think I got a hand slap for mentioning things on sale in the classifieds or mentioning clones etc.
I came here a while ago, but only recently actually interacted, and Ive had 2 ban warnings. I will behave and stick to being a dick and offensive in a lady like fashion. Think I will just lurk , Im better at that.
PS, just rewatched it and a big ole dumb shit DOH to myself. I did not even notice there was a reference.... I guess Im just a plain ole idget.
I can't, for the life of me, figure out that if there is a god, why are we not born with the knowledge of him. Why do we have to be taught about god from other people whom simply claim to have talked to him?
You'd think he'd either talk to us directly, or we would be born with the knowledge.
You'd think he'd either talk to us directly, or we would be born with the knowledge.
YOU?? I'm seriously surprised by this and know nothing about it. I like your posts.
The Lounge is where non Vaping related discussions happen and the OUTSIDE is where we discuss things like politics and religion etc.
The OUTSIDE is a subsection of the Lounge and not for the "faint of heart".
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I watched the video twice because I didn't notice the first time either . lol
I don't recall any ban warnings, you don't have anything on record that I see.
If god showed himself to us or made his existance obvious then there would be no need for faith. Its like an open book test, too easy and unlikely.
God made us free to choose to follow or not to follow. I can talk all day about this but if no one listens i cant necessarily force it nor can i judge anyone for not following since god himself chose to give us free will. In the words of Jesus, those who have ears will listen...
I am catholic of the roman nature and i can tell you not all of us forcefeed nor do (or should) we judge in gods name, its not in our place to do so.
Everything you experience in life from the good to the bad can be explained through the bible. Some say its faery tales, but unexplained science is also faery tales if you think about it, only we give it a fancy name, being theoretical.
Some find it hard to believe a big man created all of this in 7 days, the world and time itself, but find it rational that a one in a billion chance explosion happened at just the right place in just the right time to create single celled organisms which over billions of years of aquatic life to reptilians to mammalians somehow it got to us, makes a whole lot of sense.
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God made us free to choose to follow or not to follow. I can talk all day about this but if no one listens i cant necessarily force it nor can i judge anyone for not following since god himself chose to give us free will. In the words of Jesus, those who have ears will listen...
I am catholic of the roman nature and i can tell you not all of us forcefeed nor do (or should) we judge in gods name, its not in our place to do so.
Everything you experience in life from the good to the bad can be explained through the bible. Some say its faery tales, but unexplained science is also faery tales if you think about it, only we give it a fancy name, being theoretical.
Some find it hard to believe a big man created all of this in 7 days, the world and time itself, but find it rational that a one in a billion chance explosion happened at just the right place in just the right time to create single celled organisms which over billions of years of aquatic life to reptilians to mammalians somehow it got to us, makes a whole lot of sense.
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While I agree with most of your post, I have to disagree with the last part. If you read the holy texts of the Abrahamic Religions (Judaism, Christianity, and Islam) there is a LOT that our modern society would consider "immoral" (rape, incest, genocide, slavery, infanticide to name a few).
You don't need religion to be a good person. You just need empathy.
Except, my wife is known to me and I have faith in her. It makes no sense that we would have no faith in god if his existence is obvious. And if he did show himself, why could we not still have free will? You seem to have no doubt that he exists. You also still have free will. I don't see how knowing changes any of that.
There are almost 5,000 gods being worshipped around the world; how do you know that YOURS is the "right" one?
I'm truly curious. I don't understand how people can be SO SURE that the god(s) they worship are the "real" ones.
I see it more as evidence that man created god(s) than the other way around.
If it makes that person feel better, does it matter, though?
If god made us unable to deny his existance, then we would lose the free will to love and follow him. If you knew, without a doubt, your actions would send you to heaven or hell and you had a grasp of how eternal damnation was, youd be a fool not to kneel before him.
Not having proof, enables us to make this decision freely.
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Not having proof, enables us to make this decision freely.
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Depends. If it ONLY effects the person, no it doesn't.
But if that person flies a plane into a building because they believe that their god wanted them to? Then it matters.
Even raising a child in religion can stifle their growth. Why question and try to find answers when religion will tell you what to think.
"Philosophy: Questions that may never be answered.
Religion: Answers that must never be questioned."
Furthermore, the whole ignorance is bliss thing is true, you cant be judged on that which you dont know. The more you have, the more is given to you (faith; responsibility) and the less you have, the more is taken from you.
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Again though, how you you know that the god you worship is the "real" one? With 5,000 gods to choose from the odds of picking the correct one aren't good.
Is it because it is the god you were taught to worship?
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Try giving them a check with pay to God wrote on it
I'm truly curious when I ask questions.
I've never been able to be a "believer" even as a child it never "clicked". I tried growing up to believe so I wouldn't be the "oddball" but it never worked.
I read the bible cover to cover for the first time at 9.
At times I envy the believers. Like at my Uncle's funeral. They are SO SURE they have the answers and it gives them comfort. I've never felt that way.
At my age now I accept that I'm an oddball in my family and I've been able to connect with likeminded individuals which helps.
I have my views and opinions, and while I criticise religion I am not criticising the believers.
I don't care what a person believes so long as that belief ends at the tip of their nose. In other words, so long as they aren't infringing on others, it's all good. To each their own and all that.
I'm rambling now... LOL
I've never been able to be a "believer" even as a child it never "clicked". I tried growing up to believe so I wouldn't be the "oddball" but it never worked.
I read the bible cover to cover for the first time at 9.
At times I envy the believers. Like at my Uncle's funeral. They are SO SURE they have the answers and it gives them comfort. I've never felt that way.
At my age now I accept that I'm an oddball in my family and I've been able to connect with likeminded individuals which helps.
I have my views and opinions, and while I criticise religion I am not criticising the believers.
I don't care what a person believes so long as that belief ends at the tip of their nose. In other words, so long as they aren't infringing on others, it's all good. To each their own and all that.
I'm rambling now... LOL
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No, I do see your point. I'm not a religious person. I just believe in something. I really don't even define it, it's just something. I did grow up being told never to question, only believe. That never sat well with me, eventually rebelled against it. Over the years, I decided there has to be something, so that's what I call it. Works for me, hasn't harmed anyone that I'm aware of. I'm ok with that. Something bigger than me.
I really don't have a formed belief in how things started, what happened in between, I just try to stay concerned about the now. I remember sitting with a friend of mine having a conversation about this kind of thing and the Bible came up, she said, "Yeah, it's a good story." LOL.
This is one of those things, I don't try to shock and awe people, I don't like discussions where people are just going to fight it out about it. I know how I feel, I try not to impose what works for me onto others.
Yep pretty much sums up my status on the subject as well.
There is no such thing as an answer that should never be questioned.
I have no problem with that. Like I said it is only when it impacts others that I feel there is a problem.
Makes me want some French Toast!
DAMN! Cracker Barrel is closed!
I was introduced to god, and i chose to follow.
While i was raised in a catholic home in medellin, i never really followed religion until around 4 or 5 years ago.
Dont really think anyone is interested in my story, for its a long one, but ill just say i was close to death at least a handful of times, followed by being incarcerated in the states for what should have been 25 years, magically after 18 months in everglades penitentiary the doors opened for me and i was a free man, no paper time, no po, little explanation, that was that.
While some of you fine folk would probably assume im just a lucky fucker, i dont believe in luck and feel as though i was being protected.
So i opened my eyes after looking back and crossed all the dots, there is no other explanation for me.
I dont expect anyone to understand reasoning, but thats ok.
The world as you know it was established by god fearing men, the freedoms you enjoy in this country included. The bible even talks about what we are experiencing now, how society has turned their backs on god... right will be wrong and wrong will be right.
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So what about people that never learn about god? Tribesmen in South America? The Indians before America was discovered.
Before man was taught what god was, did they all go to hell for their actions? God seems like a dick if people that had no knowledge of him, taught by man or god, and were simply sent to hell because they were never taught.
No, if god existed, we would directly know it. Otherwise, god is a cruel being and deserves to die for withholding pertinent information that caused people to live an eternity in hell.
You cant be judged for that which you dont know.
Truth be told those so called christians with their hate rallies talking down on the homosexuals and the abortion clinics and the drug addicts or whatever else they rally against have a bigger risk of getting on the chopping block than those they oppose, simply because they know better.
Where do you think the phrase ignorance is bliss came from, that movie with keanu reeves? I forgot the name haha.
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So, in a christian sense, it's best not to teach about god. If you love your children, it's best for them to never be taught.
That doesn't make sense. Why in the world do people need to know about a god that won't punish them, unless they are taught he exists?
From what I know of the subject, which is limited, a good many of them have/had some sort of belief system based on spirits or a creator-figure.
I believe James Campbell did a lot of work on the shared history of humanity with deities, creation-myth and so on.
Have to agree here with the basis of argument. In Christian theology, all will be judged. Ignorance is not an excuse to escape damnation in their rulebook.
"Love the sinner, hate the sin."