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fozzy71

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Looks inerteresting..... What does the preheat function do?
It allows you to use a higher wattage in VW mode for up to 2 seconds to get the coil vaping your juice faster then it will come back down to the set wattage. Great for heavy/thick/fancy coils with long ramp up times.
 

Mr RELENTLESS

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Pico for the TC control... with the 20w or 30w Istick you are limited to Kanthal and nichrome ONLY. With the Pico you can use nearly any type of vaping wire. Yes, I know you use a nautilus.... I have one too that I rebuild with stainless wire.

I don't rebuild coils yet I'm still a noob I just use/buy the stock aspire coils, so what will temp control do for me over the istick mini 20w. A response is GREATLY APPRECIATED


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HondaDavidson

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It allows you to use a higher wattage in VW mode for up to 2 seconds to get the coil vaping your juice faster then it will come back down to the set wattage. Great for heavy/thick/fancy coils with long ramp up times.

It's for VW mode?? I thought it was for TC. Guess I'll have to build a slower coil to see it work? Got a 28/30 twisted SS coil at .5ohms.
 

HondaDavidson

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I don't rebuild coils yet I'm still a noob I just use/buy the stock aspire coils, so what will temp control do for me over the istick mini 20w. A response is GREATLY APPRECIATED


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Just gives more options... I also find it a more consistant vape and you will never get a dry or burnt hit. BUT it won't work with Kanthal or nichrome coils, coils need to be SS, Ti or Nickle. So unless you build on the nauty, no real benefit.

On rebuilding.. It's easier than it sounds and looks.. I learned to build with a Naultilus and a protank, when I was a newbie. The first month. Because I got tired of dealing with crappy coil heads, and I wanted better flavor.

Today 2 1/2 years in I still vape at 30 watts or less. mostly in the 15-20watts range. I don't use the Protank or Nautilus anymore. Wife Uses the Nautlilus on her 10w istick, and I also don't build coils for her. She uses factory coils.

Another advantage of the Pico is the replaceable battery.
 

fozzy71

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It's for VW mode?? I thought it was for TC. Guess I'll have to build a slower coil to see it work? Got a 28/30 twisted SS coil at .5ohms.
Yes, it is for VW mode only. TC on mods like this already have a basic pre-heat function: you set your max watts and that is what is used until it reaches your set temp then the watts are lowered/controlled to try and maintain that temp. I haven't used it on my pico yet but it works great on my 0.2ohm coils I have on my rx200s, rx2/3 and istick 200tc mods. I set the preheat 20 - 25% higher than my max watts for 0.7 seconds.
 

HondaDavidson

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Yes, it is for VW mode only. TC on mods like this already have a basic pre-heat function: you set your max watts and that is what is used until it reaches your set temp then the watts are lowered/controlled to try and maintain that temp. I haven't used it on my pico yet but it works great on my 0.2ohm coils I have on my rx200s, rx2/3 and istick 200tc mods. I set the preheat 20 - 25% higher than my max watts for 0.7 seconds.

I'm Liking this 1.03. The preheat thing is nice. even on my tiny coil.

I had heard of preheating. Thought it was for TC even though the logic of it didn't compute for me. Lets me vape at even lower wattages... More battery life, yeah. Have set preheat to 30 watts, vaping at 16. was vaping at 20 before using the preheat.
 

Rangertrix

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Another advantage of the Pico is the replaceable battery

Get the Pico Mega and the RBA for the Melo 3 and you never have to replace or charge the battery. My 26650 on my Melo 3 with a 3mm .8 ohm SS316L coil seems like it will last well past the 2020 elections, when Beavis and Butthead will be running; oh wait, that's this election. :rolleyes:
 

Mr RELENTLESS

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Just gives more options... I also find it a more consistant vape and you will never get a dry or burnt hit. BUT it won't work with Kanthal or nichrome coils, coils need to be SS, Ti or Nickle. So unless you build on the nauty, no real benefit.

On rebuilding.. It's easier than it sounds and looks.. I learned to build with a Naultilus and a protank, when I was a newbie. The first month. Because I got tired of dealing with crappy coil heads, and I wanted better flavor.

Today 2 1/2 years in I still vape at 30 watts or less. mostly in the 15-20watts range. I don't use the Protank or Nautilus anymore. Wife Uses the Nautlilus on her 10w istick, and I also don't build coils for her. She uses factory coils.

Another advantage of the Pico is the replaceable battery.

THANK YOU for your response greatly helped me think about all this


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Huckleberried

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I'm about to order another mod, and love/must be small size. I'm torn between istick mini 20w and the Pico. Which one should I get? I use a Aspire Nautilus and don't blow huge clouds. Currently using istick mini 10w the original one


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Pico, definitely.
 

Rangertrix

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Pico.
Not only is it a MUCH better chipset (i.e. more reliable & smoother), it has user replaceable battery so you can swap them out while charging and it can be replaced if it fails instead of throwing mod away. It has a lot more functionality, that you may not use at the moment, but you have if the need arises. It also has upgradeable firmware. We've already seen 3 or 4 new features added to the device simply through firmware upgrades.
 

supersonictt

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Guys, post the tank(s) that you are using with your pico... Am using Subtank mini, and I just bought Toptank mini.
Just a note here, when I got my Subtank (2 days ago), I used Joyetech sweet mint juice and few drops of nasty watermelon, and I cannot remember what I did but when I filled the tank again with mint only, after a few puffs I started to have weird taste, like burning or wire burning, am not sure if it is normal as I used to mix it with watermelon, but anyways I fixed a new coil and I think it is better... has anyone tried the Subtank with any mint juice?

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HondaDavidson

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Current tank Avocado with .5ohm 28/30 SS twistwd single coil. Preheat at 30 vaping at 16. Also have 2 Kayfuns set up and a dripper. Builds range from .7 to .3 all are single coils. All are vaped at 15 to 20 watts.

Forgot the Melo 3 that came with the mod. That has a .5ohm clapton in it.

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Rangertrix

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I use the Melo 3 with the RBA and a .6 SS316L single, a Serpent Mini with a .7 SS316L single , and the Baby Beast that came with my Alien and it has the RBA with .5 SS316L duals.
 

supersonictt

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So guys what is so special with the RBAs?

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HondaDavidson

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So guys what is so special with the RBAs?

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You not stuck with the limited coil and or builds of factory coilheads.
Cost. 5 cents or so per build vs I've seen coilheads fir as much as $20 each.....

That's kinda pricey for something I will have to put in the trash tommorrow. Unless I rebuild it.

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Rangertrix

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So guys what is so special with the RBAs?

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What Honda said, except I can build an RBA for about .03, lol.
Most factory coils are set up for cloud chasing or flavor. I can set mine up for a happy medium, and I can tailor the build to the devices being used to maximize battery life. Done properly I can get better flavor, better vapor production, and get anywhere from 1 1/2 to 2 times the battery life, and no ramp up time. I also build exclusively with stainless steel and use it in power mode usually, occasionally in TC. And every atty I have built can be used in either mode without having to remember which is which or mark them.
I also have tanks I still use that they quit making coils for years ago. When the TFV36 comes out, good luck finding coils for the TFV4. Which at this rate, will be by Thanksgiving, lol.
 

supersonictt

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Thanks guys for explaining this. I will soon learn how to build coils. But let me get things right: I have the Kangertech subtank mini, so if I build a coil for it from the stuff that was inside the box, and when the coil needs changing, do I change the wires and the cotton only?

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HondaDavidson

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Thanks guys for explaining this. I will soon learn how to build coils. But let me get things right: I have the Kangertech subtank mini, so if I build a coil for it from the stuff that was inside the box, and when the coil needs changing, do I change the wires and the cotton only?

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Most of the time you just change the wick.... only time you would have to change the coil is because you damaged it during the Rewicking process or get bored with the build. Coils themselves can last for months. Heck you can get months of use out of coil head if you learn to rebuild it or wick it.

Fwiw I learn to build using protank and nautilus coilheads.

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supersonictt

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Most of the time you just change the wick.... only time you would have to change the coil is because you damaged it during the Rewicking process or get bored with the build. Coils themselves can last for months. Heck you can get months of use out of coil head if you learn to rebuild it or wick it.

Fwiw I learn to build using protank and nautilus coilheads.

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That is great, thanks for the info.
Just a quick question (I will search the net thoroughly about it): what determines the resistance of the coil? I mean if I want to build 0.3 ohms coils or 1.5 ohms coils, what is the factor of determining this?

-----EDIT-----
Ok got it, I found an app that does this :)
Thanks a lot.

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Rangertrix

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The gauge of your wire, the number of wraps, and the diameter of the coil. There are some great tools out there that make it easy to determine what your coil will come out to, as well as some other great tools bundled in and they are free.
There's steam-engine.org on your PC. There is also vapors toolbox for android, etc. google can find a bunch for you.
I would also recommend you check out some of the stickies to acquaint yourself with Ohm's Law and there's some other good stuff there.
There are protection circuits in a regulated mod to help keep you safe that mechanicals don't have, but still a good idea to go through it all.
It's all very easy, will take no time at all, and will make your building so much more rewarding. Especially when you learn to make a simple single micro coil perform like these 24 core kryptonian/ magnesium alloy ones that require a small nuclear reactor in a fanny pack to power.
 

HondaDavidson

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That is great, thanks for the info.
Just a quick question (I will search the net thoroughly about it): what determines the resistance of the coil? I mean if I want to build 0.3 ohms coils or 1.5 ohms coils, what is the factor of determining this?

-----EDIT-----
Ok got it, I found an app that does this :)
Thanks a lot.

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Type of wire, gauge and length of wire determine resistance. Type of desired vape hit are the determining factor in what wire or build to use. The atomizer and device you use to fire it will also affect this. The difference between .3ohm and 1.5ohm to most is a wattage thing. And in a mech mod or unregulated mod, the ohms determine the power output. But with a regulated mod the difference between building to .3 vs 1.5ohm has more to do with how many volts and amps you have to play with and how big or small a coil you want or need.
 

Rangertrix

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Type of wire, gauge and length of wire determine resistance. Type of desired vape hit are the determining factor in what wire or build to use. The atomizer and device you use to fire it will also affect this. The difference between .3ohm and 1.5ohm to most is a wattage thing. And in a mech mod or unregulated mod, the ohms determine the power output. But with a regulated mod the difference between building to .3 vs 1.5ohm has more to do with how many volts and amps you have to play with and how big or small a coil you want or need.


What he said.
 

supersonictt

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Can someone tell me how fast does the liquid go and has anyone had any issues with leaking?
I cannot answer you as I use Kangertech Subtank mini.
A friend of mine has the pico and told me that if he leaves the tank intact for couple of days it leaks. My tank is on its side for more than 5 days and it never leaked.

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kross8

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my pico died in two weeks I bought the pico kit on oct 22 and brought it back to my local store today for a exchange. it first stopped recognizing any battery i put in it but would fire up if i plugged it in to my lap top then just stopped altogether. I actually bought 2 one for me one for my wife. my wife's is still working but again only been since oct 22. with that said i do like it. its good on batteries and the melo iii tank it comes wih is pretty nice with both .3 an .5 coils. I bought a tobeco super tank mini also and works great with it also. I use it as my everyday vape. maybe i just got a fluke one. but they exchanged it for another pico so we will see. I usually run boths tanks around 50 watts
if the pico doesnt see your battery,, its likely time to clean the battery and the battery compartment. i use alcohol or hand sanitiser if its real bad or a pencil eraser .. found ejuice build up/or dust/lint mixed with humidity of a film was the problem.
 

kross8

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4 picos,, 2 more on the way,, 2 pico boards with 2 more on the way, 1 squeeze with 1 more on the way. (dont buy the squeeze with the coral atty........the atty sucks)
 

HondaDavidson

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4 picos,, 2 more on the way,, 2 pico boards with 2 more on the way, 1 squeeze with 1 more on the way. (dont buy the squeeze with the coral atty........the atty sucks)
Where do you get the pico boards?

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kross8

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I cannot answer you as I use Kangertech Subtank mini.
A friend of mine has the pico and told me that if he leaves the tank intact for couple of days it leaks. My tank is on its side for more than 5 days and it never leaked.

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I almost never take my tanks off of my pico's/any mods unless I am cleaning (on Sunday's) no leaking issues. (kanger topboxes too)
 

supersonictt

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I almost never take my tanks off of my pico's/any mods unless I am cleaning (on Sunday's) no leaking issues. (kanger topboxes too)
The reason am using Subtank is that it does not get hot like the Melo 3 mini although I like the Melo 3.
I also have Cleito tank but it us juice and battery sucker, plus it gets very hot.

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HondaDavidson

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Anyone know how to reset puff and vape counters from the latest update?



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supersonictt

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Anyone know how to reset puff and vape counters from the latest update?



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I sent an email to eleaf requesting if there is a possibility to add an option to reset the puff counter and an option to set the maximum puffs. Let's hope they can add them in the next firmware.

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fozzy71

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What is the preheat function?

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It allows you to fire the coil higher than your max watts setting (in wattage mode) for 0.1 - 2.0 seconds to get the coil heated up faster. On my big dual coil clapton builds on my istick 200 and rx200s that I run at 75w I set the preheat to 90w for 0.5 or 0.7 seconds.
 

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