VU is being attacked by Russia!

[VaporJoe]

We made it a point to host outside the USA. This has come to bite us in the ass

Our host is located in Europe but we found out today VU is sitting on a Ukrainian Sever.

Obviously we are going to relocate ASAP. The forum could go down at any time or can be completely fine.

If it goes down - there is a good chance it will not come back up until we find our new host.

There will be an update page if the site goes down.

All posts and messages have been backed up to the point of this post.


War will not take down VU!

-- Vaporjoe

 

[f1r3b1rd]

FUCK PUTIN

 

[5150sick]

ATTENTION Russian Prize winners, please start a counter revolution to save our server.
No server, no free shit.
This has been a VU P.S.A., brought to you by the please don't fuck up our server foundation.

 

[nadalama]

I think those sonsabitches attacked the global freight forwarding company that my employer uses. That happened on Monday. We figured right away that it was that fucker Putin behind that shit.

Everyone in the world should read up on that guy. He's a real piece of work.

 

[michaelvapors]

Hope all goes well Joe

 

[Lady Sarah]

Putin needs to chill out with a nice vape instead of those nasty cigars. Just might put him in a better frame of mind.

 

[MyMagicMist]

Everyone in the world should read up on that guy. He's a real piece of work.

Yes, he is a piece of work. He can terrify, and, or stir admiration. Stalin was such a person too.

Edited by moderator- removed the non English writing from this post.

 

[MyMagicMist]

Yes, he is a piece of work. He can terrify, and, or stir admiration. Stalin was such a person too.

No I am not a Russian mole. I used the NSA's own translation service at Google.

 

[BronzyIsland]

 

[Bliss Doubt]

Pray for peace. If anybody pushes the red button, this planet is doomed. There are more forces, more players at work, than we can see.

There is a fundamentalist religion that has this practice of praying nonstop for three whole days and three whole nights when there is a crisis, stopping only to eat a little, sleep a little. I'm not much for organized religion anymore, nor was ever involved in a fundamentalist sect, but now is the time to practice that discipline, each of us in our own way, and I'm trying (stopping to check on the VU). African religions of old had a practice of drumming together nonstop for days on end, in the same way stopping only to eat for sustenance, sleep a little.

Because awareness can change things. There is this rule of the science of physics, that when you look at a star, it changes, just from being observed by you. Consciousness can and does change things.

Peace in every moment.

 

[walton]

FUCK PUTIN

with a pick axe

 

[walton]

Pray for peace. If anybody pushes the red button, this planet is doomed. There are more forces, more players at work, than we can see.

There is a fundamentalist religion that has this practice of praying nonstop for three whole days and three whole nights when there is a crisis, stopping only to eat a little, sleep a little. I'm not much for organized religion anymore, nor was ever involved in a fundamentalist sect, but now is the time to practice that discipline, each of us in our own way, and I'm trying (stopping to check on the VU). African religions of old had a practice of drumming together nonstop for days on end, in the same way stopping only to eat for sustenance, sleep a little.

Because awareness can change things. There is this rule of the science of physics, that when you look at a star, it changes, just from being observed by you. Consciousness can and does change things.

Peace in every moment.

we need more awareness, do people really think we are the only life. who is out there? someone is.

 

[516_vaper_li]

with a pick axe

NIET!

 

[VapeOn1960]

Just a nice song to lighten things up:
(I am in no way saying this isn't serious... it is)

 

[walton]

Just a nice song to lighten things up:
(I am in no way saying this isn't serious... it is)

good we need it. however whilst it is very serious it does make you realise that if say sadam had a big bomb, he would have pressed it just to get his name in what would be left of history. hitler would have, isis would. no matter what we do, say, every rational person knows that one day it will happen. red indians used to paint themselves, zulu would bang drums, you can have protests, riots,media..whatever you/we want, we can not in anyway shape or form prevent some loony from doing it.
if we think there is a way to stop this, then we are all totally unrealistic. lets remember, if man was so pios, then why did we invent the bomb in the first place.

 

[walton]

Putin needs to chill out with a nice vape instead of those nasty cigars. Just might put him in a better frame of mind.

let jimmy carter give him a cigar

 

[Lady Sarah]

let jimmy carter give him a cigar

Maybe you're thinking Bill Clinton.

 

[MyMagicMist]

every rational person knows that one day it will happen. red indians used to paint themselves, zulu would bang drums, you can have protests, riots,media..whatever you/we want, we can not in anyway shape or form prevent some loony from doing it.
if we think there is a way to stop this, then we are all totally unrealistic.

Suggesting rationality also suggests irrationality. That is simply what is. Everything is energy and energy is polar, positive & negative. I argue there's a third state of neutral though am told that's not feasible.

if man was so pios, then why did we invent the bomb in the first place.

Greed can usually sum up the motive for atrocities.

 

[walton]

Maybe you're thinking Bill Clinton.

sounds about right lol

 

[VapeOn1960]

Yes.. it was Bill. But since you mentioned Jimmy Carter (peanut head... hey don't get me wrong, I liked him)
BTW, Jimmy was the one that legalized "homebrewing" beer (was already legal in england) I really don't want to get into politics. Anyway... off topic (let's get get back into the actual topic)

 

[gopher_byrd]

So what's the status with getting the servers moved? @VaporJoe @SMOKIE

How about Nigeria? There's all those nice people there wanting to send me money...

 

[Ravinmad]

Yes, he is a piece of work. He can terrify, and, or stir admiration. Stalin was such a person too.

Edited by moderator- removed the non English writing from this post.

Stalin the original dictator poster child for what Putin is doing just updated for the modern era

 

[walton]

Stalin the original dictator poster child for what Putin is doing just updated for the modern era

i agree buddy, the only difference is putin can launch nucular bombs from underwater even.if this conflict gets sorted out, then someone in russia will tap putin. it will come from one of the top wealthy russians who are getting their boats and houses taken of them, or a top navy seal who gets paid $10m to pop the fu@@head. the poor cant get any worse but the wealthy can, and believe me, they may have been his friends when he gave them contracts for oil, gas,steel etc but when they lose that then it will be so so bad for putin.
i wonder if he realises that he will lose his luxury houses,boats etc, and what for? he will gain very very little if he takes over ukraine and it backfired on him already, instead of scaring the west with his army, he is getting the crap smacked out of him by a bunch of volunteers with hardly any weapons.
all dictators have ended up the same way...killed bu their own country.
lets keep our fingers crossed that it will be soon.

(then do the same to mr trump! lol)

 

[Jlmancuso1134]

Why can't we all just get along? Who cares if we don't have the same beliefs? Who cares if your god goes by a different name, if you have multiple gods, or you have no god at all? Who cares if your communist, if your a dictator, if your democracy, or even anarchy? Everyone is different and has different thoughts because if we were all the same the world would be a boring place! Why can't we all just get along? Just take each others hand and bow our heads to give respect to each other's differences. Lets live and let live. If we don't agree than walk away and get on getting on. If we don't like each other it isn't that hard to stay away from each other. We don't have to fight and try to force others to become us! Let them be them and I will be me. Why can't we just get along? It would ve a beautiful thing but man is a violent and hateful being that must infect pain to force others into submission. The only way to get beyond this is evolving into a higher being. Humans are flawed and will never change. We can only make the best out of what we are. Try to love even though we hate. Try to be peaceful even though we are violent. Try to given even though we only take. We will never get along and doubt we will ever tolerate but we can just walk away because we all have two feet (just an expression so take it as it is intended and not literally). Humans have been around for a short time and can easily disappear. So lets try to consciously evolve instead of letting nature takes its course? Do we really want to disappear? No! Will we destroy ourselves? Most likely! It doesn't have to be doom and gloom. We can be greater than we are if we just try. So lets step up and become more than we were!

Just thoughts from the rabbit hole that is called my mind.

Peace ,
Love ,
Happiness ,
And harmony ,
James Mancuso

 

[walton]

Why can't we all just get along? Who cares if we don't have the same beliefs? Who cares if your god goes by a different name, if you have multiple gods, or you have no god at all? Who cares if your communist, if your a dictator, if your democracy, or even anarchy? Everyone is different and has different thoughts because if we were all the same the world would be a boring place! Why can't we all just get along? Just take each others hand and bow our heads to give respect to each other's differences. Lets live and let live. If we don't agree than walk away and get on getting on. If we don't like each other it isn't that hard to stay away from each other. We don't have to fight and try to force others to become us! Let them be them and I will be me. Why can't we just get along? It would ve a beautiful thing but man is a violent and hateful being that must infect pain to force others into submission. The only way to get beyond this is evolving into a higher being. Humans are flawed and will never change. We can only make the best out of what we are. Try to love even though we hate. Try to be peaceful even though we are violent. Try to given even though we only take. We will never get along and doubt we will ever tolerate but we can just walk away because we all have two feet (just an expression so take it as it is intended and not literally). Humans have been around for a short time and can easily disappear. So lets try to consciously evolve instead of letting nature takes its course? Do we really want to disappear? No! Will we destroy ourselves? Most likely! It doesn't have to be doom and gloom. We can be greater than we are if we just try. So lets step up and become more than we were!

Just thoughts from the rabbit hole that is called my mind.

Peace ,
Love ,
Happiness ,
And harmony ,
James Mancuso

i am a athiest but if people want to follow their own thing then thats fine. but it is easy for all to get along. just ban money, and religion.

 

[Lady Sarah]

i am a athiest but if people want to follow their own thing then thats fine. but it is easy for all to get along. just ban money, and religion.

It's not always about money and religion. Much of the time, it's about power over people and territory. I don't want to turn this political, so I'll just stop there.

 

[Jlmancuso1134]

i am a athiest but if people want to follow their own thing then thats fine. but it is easy for all to get along. just ban money, and religion.

So to get along all we have to do is force others not to believe in god or money? Yes that sounds like a solution to an issue of forcing others to become something else.

It's not always about money and religion. Much of the time, it's about power over people and territory. I don't want to turn this political, so I'll just stop there.

You might have something here. It is about power over others and wanting what they have plus money and religion (which is really just power over others). Politics also plays a part because when you boil politics down to its core it also is just power over others. Oh wait when we boil down money it also is just power over others. Come to think about it what is territory? Just power over others?

Welcome to my rabbit hole.

Peace ,
Love ,
Happiness ,
And harmony ,
James Mancuso

 

[walton]

It's not always about money and religion. Much of the time, it's about power over people and territory. I don't want to turn this political, so I'll just stop there.

morning lady, as i bow and back out of the room.

 

[walton]

So to get along all we have to do is force others not to believe in god or money? Yes that sounds like a solution to an issue of forcing others to become something else.



You might have something here. It is about power over others and wanting what they have plus money and religion (which is really just power over others). Politics also plays a part because when you boil politics down to its core it also is just power over others. Oh wait when we boil down money it also is just power over others. Come to think about it what is territory? Just power over others?

Welcome to my rabbit hole.

Peace ,
Love ,
Happiness ,
And harmony ,
James Mancuso

so what do we do? become protesting rabble, smoke joints. have bonfires and walk around spreading aids as we smile and shake some beads, as we chant love to all. peace on earth. all will be well. hmm wonder what dumpster i can scrounge in today? or perhaps contribute nothing in taxes, yeah that sounds goooood!

 

[VapeOn1960]

So... not sure where this thread went astray (and don't get me wrong, enjoying all the conversation) but wan't this all about UV? The website. Can we focus on that? There are other threads where we can ramble on...

 

[walton]

So... not sure where this thread went astray (and don't get me wrong, enjoying all the conversation) but wan't this all about UV? The website. Can we focus on that? There are other threads where we can ramble on...

i agree, i merely spoke my opinion,

 

[Ravinmad]

So... not sure where this thread went astray (and don't get me wrong, enjoying all the conversation) but wan't this all about UV? The website. Can we focus on that? There are other threads where we can ramble on...

VU is a developed world collateral damage item in the big, overall picture to what is going on over there but speedy relocation to safety of VU, and also is desired by nearly everyone on all matters related to the Ukraine-

 

[MyMagicMist]

Much of the time, it's about power over people and territory.

It boils down to control & access. Really simply access because with it comes control.

Say I build a wall stopping your easy daily access to a water source. You need that access to live. I can then control and extort say half your crops from you to to permit you access via my wall's gate.

Not that I would ever deny folks a right to water, only presenting an example.

Any resource / service / skill can be made a commodity. Access gives control, even over will.

 

[SMOKIE]

So what's the status with getting the servers moved? @VaporJoe @SMOKIE

How about Nigeria? There's all those nice people there wanting to send me money...

It will be moved if needed. You do know the media is making it out to be more than it is, as usual for them.

 

[walton]

It will be moved if needed. You do know the media is making it out to be more than it is, as usual for them.

g'day boss man, first time i have seen you. cheers from australia.

 

[walton]

g'day boss man, first time i have seen you. cheers from australia.

i will click on your review channel, i follow jai haze normally.

 

[SMOKIE]

i will click on your review channel, i follow jai haze normally.

Have not done any reviews in a few years.

 

[walton]

Have not done any reviews in a few years.

10.9k subscribers, thats ok.

 

[walton]

i am looking at your glass tank vid with whore mod lol

 

[Pastorfuzz]

It's not always about money and religion. Much of the time, it's about power over people and territory. I don't want to turn this political, so I'll just stop there.

Yeah, I thought we were done with the political shit on this site long ago but a couple more jerkwads started again.
@VaporJoe , sorry man. Pulling my Patreon.
Good luck to the good folks here!

 

[Bliss Doubt]

We don't have to fight and try to force others to become us!

It's the oldest temptation known to humankind: Come over here. Be like me. Think like me. Taste this fruit!

When you're already over there eating the fruit you prefer, doing just fine.

Do we really want to disappear? No! Will we destroy ourselves? Most likely! It doesn't have to be doom and gloom. We can be greater than we are if we just try. So lets step up and become more than we were!

Some days it feels like we are committing mass human suicide, with no good reason. I keep looking for the sun to rise. I hope, if we survive this latest crisis, we will choose to re-embrace our humanity and learn again from the potential we always had.

 

[Bliss Doubt]

Much of the time, it's about power over people and territory.

It appears to be an unfortunate phenomenon of a highly advanced, intelligent, creative organism like humankind, that high functioning psychopaths are attracted to power.

I'm not making it political either. It doesn't matter who you root for, there have been people throughout history, who had the thirst to kill, and who accessed the power they needed to do it to millions.

 

[nadalama]

It appears to be an unfortunate phenomenon of a highly advanced, intelligent, creative organism like humankind, that high functioning psychopaths are attracted to power.

I'm not making it political either. It doesn't matter who you root for, there have been people throughout history, who had the thirst to kill, and who accessed the power they needed to do it to millions.

Well said. And I believe it isn't political, at its very core, because those who are power-hungry will just find an available niche, no matter what the affiliation. Beliefs are not what matter to them. Control over the population that ascribes to those beliefs is the real target.

 

[aussie]

Putin is doing the right thing they found aerosolized rabies on those labs.........West outraged because Putin is driving an arrow through the heart of globalism..........nothing is as it seems

 

[aussie]

Putin is doing the right thing they found aerosolized rabies on those labs.........West outraged because Putin is driving an arrow through the heart of globalism..........nothing is as it seems

PUTIN VS THE DEEP STATE – PART ONE – A FILM BY MRTRUTHBOMB

MrTruthBomb In this film we will look at the recent history of Ukraine that has led to Putin liberating Ukraine

trusttheq.com

 

[Bliss Doubt]

PUTIN VS THE DEEP STATE – PART ONE – A FILM BY MRTRUTHBOMB

MrTruthBomb In this film we will look at the recent history of Ukraine that has led to Putin liberating Ukraine

trusttheq.com

We'll get in trouble over this exchange, but have you seen this one?

Ukraine On Fire - Oliver Stone - 2016

Ukraine. Across its eastern border is Russia and to its west-Europe. For centuries, it has been at the center of a tug-of-war between powers seeking to control its rich lands and access to the Black S

rumble.com

Oliver Stone film thrown off YouTube a few days ago. It reveals too much. Some of the same players are involved today.

This world is just one big pack of lies. Ever since those first bus loads of rioters were dropped off in US cities in summer 2020, to meet with pallets of bricks laid out for them the night before, I have had the feeling that the same "Orange Revolution, "Arab Spring", and all the other staged overthrows and attempts that were done elsewhere in the world by our politicians, secretive agencies and other organizations, was being perpetrated on our own country, because we'd kept our eyes averted to what went on elsewhere.

 

[gopher_byrd]

It will be moved if needed. You do know the media is making it out to be more than it is, as usual for them.

Thanks for the update. I would suggest locking this thread now since it's starting to descend into the mud pit of political stuff...

 

[Bliss Doubt]

The subject line of this thread is political, when it comes right down to it.

The first reply to the OP was political, as were several of the later replies.

I would posit that it is when the discussion became less polarized and more about looking on both sides of the conflict, that forum members started to call for censorship, as in "shut it down".

Fine. I'm here for the vapes. Hoping the server will be successfully relocated.

But I read John Perkins' "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man" way back when it first came out, so I'm always snooping around both sides, especially when it comes to mainstream media cheerleading.

 

[MyMagicMist]

This world is just one big pack of lies. Ever since those first bus loads of rioters were dropped off in US cities in summer 2020,

Been that way and going on a lot longer than that. Might want to look back at Sumerian history some. Anyway, just strolling along here.

 

[Bliss Doubt]

Been that way and going on a lot longer than that. Might want to look back at Sumerian history some. Anyway, just strolling along here.

I think I have seen all of those old grainy Sitchin lecture films. I found them fascinating, and subsequently looked for other peoples' commentaries on them. Yes, interesting that language was messed with by the Assyrians to re-tell the Sumerian legends in a way to support alternate narratives.

Sometimes it seems that language is as strong a weapon as any other, or the psychology of language, which can be used for truth or for manipulation. Art as well, truth or manipulation.