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Donald Bickers
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@VaporJoes aint no better,smokie got him wrapped around his finger,,,or would that be his dick
yall have been slamming us the whole time smokey,,,,FUCK YOU
I owe you DICK! You Fuckin JERK OFF that gives me a screen shot of someones personal Pay Pal transaction they took as payment. So much for vendor confidentiality of a buyers transaction. Hope it was not juice with nic in it, you know you can get shut down for selling nic using Pay Pal, and your monies tied up for months.you don't even have the decency to pm me back,,,fuckin ass hole
@VaporJoes aint no better,smokie got him wrapped around his finger,,,or would that be his dick
Try and read this trainwreck of a thread again with some sense of neutrality. A crony acting on behalf of a vendor (you) started a thread demanding that the forum rules every other vendor in the history of the site has followed be waived for your friends. You, the vendor, and other friends of the vendor launched a full-scale attack on the site, its admins, and its mods when the rules (so simple an adolescent barnyard animal could understand them, IMHO) were explained repeatedly.And you people claim to be better than ECF, you are one spiteful person! Have fun with that...
Isn't talking about drugs in any way , shape or form on here considered a big "NO NO"? Just asking still have a few more pages to read before I can actually put in my input on this whole fucked up shitstorm
I was being a smartass about the "talking about drugs" thingFor all we know "Bugged out raver kid" may have needed an aspirin because all of the serotonin was sucked from his brain in 3 hours.
Which is extremely unnatural.
He didn't talk about any illegal drugs.
Saying the word "Drugs" isn't against the rules.
Talking about illegal ones is.
Im almost certain thats not going to happen. I talked to them and they said no contests would be pulled. I can see your point though, that would be a shitty thing to do. Chalk his statement up as "pissed off people say shit". And he was indeed pissed off, if you couldnt tell already..And donald pretty much saying he will only honor the contests from the other site now, pretty much proves his immature behavior and im sure he will find that to be a huge mistake business wise...all those who entered for a chance wont forget it..i promise you.
I think it was a bad decision to even start the thread...all of this couldve been handled in PM.
I dont think this "cheer leader" just started this thread on his own..i have zero doubts everyone was crying to each other because VU wouldnt bend the rules and make him a vendor before it was time and ALL requirements were in place...Even as of this date he hasnt done his 90 day time but here we have a thread of crying and throwing a tantrum over it and ,insults thrown.
In my opinion D. Bickers blew his opportunity with poor judgement.
I have zero issues with him or anyone on the vrod band wagon but, its not hard to see what happened here.
Admins and mods are people who are allowed to voice an opinion like anyone else is allowed to...some situations require some professional demeanor and all i saw was them trying to help at first despite the insults from vrod vapors...Donald fucked himself here and he cant blame anyone but himself...just sayin.
Hey, I respect your opinion. Though I don't think you're quoting the right guy on that bengay comment - and to @ someone you just fire off their name without a space between the name and the symbol - @Diescum88Now that I've read this fuckin mess, personally I think this whole thread has been fucked...but from both sides yes lighty probably should have taken a different route on things (though i think calling him a "crony" for vrod vapors is really necessary or saying he was put up to it....seems like a kinda asanine thing to say). As for about @Donald Bickers And things he said , I can see having to stick to rules and the original confusion at first about new member/vendor rules. After they were explained then it could/should have been taken care of from there or figured out if he did have a legitimate complaint and had been within the guidlines(and I'm not saying he was or wasn't just saying that either way) about a request. Regardless I think it's fucked that the "MODS" would respond in retaliation to Don and others responses that were Angry and full of "fuck you's" and at times petty jabs with just as much BULLSHIT. As they were bitching at those posters about...that's pretty pathetic, hell after the first couple pages I'd say the only one who didn't pull that shit was @Vapor joes.....and even with him I don't understand some of the shit but it's on an unrelated subject( all the shit from GEARBEST) but that's a different rant for a different time.
This whole situation could have been handled differently by both sides and I find it amusing that this went on as long as it did instead of the point being made people telling each other to fuck off/deal with the rules and then locking the damn thread. Way more time and drama was put into this thread than was ever "needed".
Oh and @ OBDave some of us prefer icyhot instead of bengay .
Threads like this make ALL of us look like asses
Yes it could have been handled different, it could have been in a pm instead but it wasn't . I'm not saying don didn't go about it the wrong way and I'm not saying that the mods weren't respectful/trying to help at first, but once it passed that and came down to arguing and repeating the same thing to him and others over and over again but with said people who originally "we're trying to help/explain" throwing insults and such as well, it went from "acting in a professional demeanor" to arguing and name calling like a bunch of preteens who just learned new cuss words... At that point it should have been ended, but instead it turned into a damn circus of rediculousness
Sorry, for some reason I thought it was you that had made the bengay comment, as for about the retaliation responses , I didn't mean you specifically, it was meant about all the mods that had done it, once the points were made it should have ended whether by people not posting anymore or by force(locking thread). Do I believe that anyone should get special treatment on rules? Hell no, I understand those rules are there for a reason. As for why don and tav responded so quick could be from tagging(don't remember if they were tagged in it or not) or it being mentioned to them but I can't speak for them on that because I don't know either I only knew bout this tread from a post it was linked in.Hey, I respect your opinion. Though I don't think you're quoting the right guy on that bengay comment - and to @ someone you just fire off their name without a space between the name and the symbol - @Diescum88
I'm sorry if you think my responses constituted "retaliation," and perhaps the one where I called the OP a "crony" was, as I don't have any proof he was put up to posting the thread that within minutes had responses from the vendors in question and more of their supporters. I'm sticking to my guns in stating that I believe they were demanding that they be allowed to receive special treatment not afforded their competitors, that they refused to listen the first few times they were told in a non-abrasive manner why they weren't going to get it, and that at some point the thread turned into a crusade to receive a "glory ban," which was successful.
Still, I did see a redacted version of a customer receipt that @SMOKIE says was shared with him, and I believe him when he says he received it from the vendor in a completely uncensored form. It would scare the piss out of me to think that a vendor would be throwing my personal information around on the internet in an attempt to win an argument...one of the many reasons I won't be shopping with the vendor in question.
Unless someone wants to specifically call me back in here for clarification of anything I've said, I think I'm done with this thread. Toodles.
Damn lol my memory sucks at timesI was the ben gay guy![]()
Missed this before tapping out - if any of the V Rod owners that have chosen to stick around want to confirm in public that they're going to continue honoring their contests posted here, please do so - otherwise we'll have to make notes linking to Donald's statement in this thread that he won't honor winners as a warning in any contest threads that remain active.Im almost certain thats not going to happen. I talked to them and they said no contests would be pulled. I can see your point though, that would be a shitty thing to do. Chalk his statement up as "pissed off people say shit". And he was indeed pissed off, if you couldnt tell already..
I'm 90% sure he mentioned they'd honor any contest that was active at the mentioning of that post, but in the future they don't want any more posted... I'll verify and let you guys know the results...Missed this before tapping out - if any of the V Rod owners that have chosen to stick around want to confirm in public that they're going to continue honoring their contests posted here, please do so - otherwise we'll have to make notes linking to Donald's statement in this thread that he won't honor winners as a warning in any contest threads that remain active.
That's the one thing that makes this forum kind of "Wild West" (and waaaay different from ECF) - we're incredibly hesitant to lock threads, issue bans, or take any other action during quarrels aside from letting them play out. Moving a trainwreck to the Mud Pit is in most instances the worst punishment we dole out.Sorry, for some reason I thought it was you that had made the bengay comment, as for about the retaliation responses , I didn't mean you specifically, it was meant about all the mods that had done it, once the points were made it should have ended whether by people not posting anymore or by force(locking thread). Do I believe that anyone should get special treatment on rules? Hell no, I understand those rules are there for a reason. As for why don and tav responded so quick could be from tagging(don't remember if they were tagged in it or not) or it being mentioned to them but I can't speak for them on that because I don't know either I only knew bout this tread from a post it was linked in.
This...I'm 90% sure he mentioned they'd honor any contest that was active at the mentioning of that post, but in the future they don't want any more posted... I'll verify and let you guys know the results...
...and this tell two different stories, at least by my interpretation. That's why I'm asking for clarification. @BenJammin, are you a V Rod part-owner, or a friend/supporter? Should I take your word as that of the company?yank all our contest out of this fucker
I am a friend. I have no part in the company whatsoever, they make good juice and are good guys (my opinion) so don't take anything out on the middle man and don't bring up any quotes from earlier in this thread to try and disprove my opinion. I have read this thread multiple times and I know what was said on both sides of the story, so no need.This...
...and this tell two different stories, at least by my interpretation. That's why I'm asking for clarification. @BenJammin, are you a V Rod part-owner, or a friend/supporter? Should I take your word as that of the company?
yank all our contest out of this fucker
we will honor them in VAPING BLIPS
Try and read this trainwreck of a thread again with some sense of neutrality. A crony acting on behalf of a vendor (you) started a thread demanding that the forum rules every other vendor in the history of the site has followed be waived for your friends. You, the vendor, and other friends of the vendor launched a full-scale attack on the site, its admins, and its mods when the rules (so simple an adolescent barnyard animal could understand them, IMHO) were explained repeatedly.
Supporters of the vendor repeatedly made demands that the rules be broken on behalf of their friend, and both the supporters and the vendor launched repeated, vulgar personal attacks after your wholly unreasonable demands were not met.
None of this is deniable - it's all here in the thread for anyone to read. And I hope very much that anyone doing a search for V Rod Vapors comes across this thread so that they're able to observe how the company conducts public relations before making an order, as I have little doubt this reflects on how they would be expected to react in the event of a problem with an order.
Do you really think ECF would spend this much time tolerating the pointless vitriol being spewed by a member who's obviously out for one thing: a "glory ban" that will give him the right to run back to his forum of preference and garner sympathy by crying about how the big bad meanies at the other forum wouldn't let him cut in line even though he really really really wanted to.
Personally, I don't think that would have happened. Does D Bicker have a presence on ECF? Does he act the same way toward mods over there? Do they put up with it? How about this "Blippy" site - does he repeatedly post "fuck this forum" messages there and get special privileges from the mods in exchange? Again, I'm doubtful.
And donald pretty much saying he will only honor the contests from the other site now, pretty much proves his immature behavior and im sure he will find that to be a huge mistake business wise...all those who entered for a chance wont forget it..i promise you.
Any of these help?Im almost certain thats not going to happen. I talked to them and they said no contests would be pulled. I can see your point though, that would be a shitty thing to do. Chalk his statement up as "pissed off people say shit". And he was indeed pissed off, if you couldnt tell already..
Thanks for the response - not trying to pull you in, I legitimately don't know whether anyone aside from Donald or @Taver13 is involved in the company.I am a friend. I have no part in the company whatsoever, they make good juice and are good guys (my opinion) so don't take anything out on the middle man and don't bring up any quotes from earlier in this thread to try and disprove my opinion. I have read this thread multiple times and I know what was said on both sides of the story, so no need.
I know what was said, but I also know things have cooled off a bit on their end. I'm just pretty sure I remember them talking about honoring the contests in place for the people participating. I have asked them what they wanted to do and I'll post a screenshot or whatever it is you need for verification of their response or just pull them. I honestly don't care, I'm just trying to be the middle man like I said.
Any of these help?
Yes Lighty269 this is the dumbestAnd you people claim to be better than ECF, you are one spiteful person! Have fun with that...
Seems you @Lighty269 only want continue with this making more then what it is by using the word revenge. Sorry dude it was not revenge just a change of policy that we originally had in place.I came on here to asked a couple of questions and not expecting drama with flames coming from both sides. This is suppose to be an open forum and when you have someone like @SMOKIE changing the rules as he see fits because of revenge, as it appears, is completely wrong!
I am not an owner, but a friend, I asked questions like any other person on this forum would do. But in return flames started to appear from the staff. Then it escalated even more upsetting one of the owners.
This thread got way out of control with to much Drama. As responsible Staff Members, this thread should of been answered, then locked to avoid confrontation, but it appears some people like to have DRAMA..
Yes Lighty269 this is the dumbest
Seems you @Lighty269 only want continue with this making more then what it is by using the word revenge. Sorry dude it was not revenge just a change of policy that we originally had in place.
The rules were 6 months for vendors since we opened but more recently decided to change it to 3 months which was a mistake seeing how some vendors need more time learning how to conduct everyday business. Lesson learned here so now reverted back to 6 months.
And staff flames up after a 2 hours of stupidity posts which could of been avoided from a simple PM
actually go back and read there were small jabs made little snide remarks at first by don you and taver but the actuall first flame and vulgarity came from donI am not an owner, but a friend, I asked questions like any other person on this forum would do. But in return flames started to appear from the staff. Then it escalated even more upsetting one of the owners.
what im seeing here is different rules for different people,,,,,so I guess its not who you know its who you blow
Im fucking done
Hey they might have great juice and the other guy Traver13 who we have no issues with might be a great guy but Donald Bickers actions who represents this vendor are just pitiful in my opinion which reflects on the Company. Hopefully with Don being gone from the forum I hope Traver13 realizes what a arrogant asshole can ruin a Company's reputation, and wish them to succeeded here without him.what a train wreck
@VaporJoes. refunding a forum contribution may not need to be publically announced, to show your being upfront and so forth, but part of me feels like that shouldnt have been announced
@SMOKIE why let this one vendor ruin stuff for others. Just because they apparently did not handle this well, does not mean other vendors will handle stuff the say way. MamaJ's is a great example. Could you guys please reconsider going back to the 3 month rule?
@sharkvape look I dont agree with the behaviour of everyone on this forum. Sometimes a mod pisses me off. But this aint the place for you issues with someone else
@anyone else who does business with vrod vapors.
perhaps you could post about how great a place they are to do business, to help salvage their reputation here.
We are a community, we aint all gonna like each other all of the time or even some of the time, theres people I just dont even respond to their posts.
Maybe we as a community an move on form this debacle
Now this is the right place for this post...Hey they might have great juice and the other guy Traver13 who we have no issues with might be a great guy but Donald Bickers actions who represents this vendor are just pitiful in my opinion which reflects on the Company. Hopefully with Don being gone from the forum I hope Traver13 realizes what a arrogant asshole can ruin a Company's reputation, and wish them to succeeded here without him.
what a train wreck
@VaporJoes. refunding a forum contribution may not need to be publically announced, to show your being upfront and so forth, but part of me feels like that shouldnt have been announced
@SMOKIE why let this one vendor ruin stuff for others. Just because they apparently did not handle this well, does not mean other vendors will handle stuff the say way. MamaJ's is a great example. Could you guys please reconsider going back to the 3 month rule?
@sharkvape look I dont agree with the behaviour of everyone on this forum. Sometimes a mod pisses me off. But this aint the place for you issues with someone else
@anyone else who does business with vrod vapors.
perhaps you could post about how great a place they are to do business, to help salvage their reputation here.
We are a community, we aint all gonna like each other all of the time or even some of the time, theres people I just dont even respond to their posts.
Maybe we as a community an move on form this debacle
Thank you. Hopefully I'm done here now, and everyone else is soon.Ok, im going to come in here to say, we are going to honor all of Vapers Uniteds contests. im not getting involved any further right now. thank you everyone who has continued to support us.
Just because you CAN do something doesn't necessarily mean you SHOULD.It was in "are you mad bro"...last i checked, open to public opinion...like many said...shouldve been handled in PM in the first place.
Just because you CAN do something doesn't necessarily mean you SHOULD.
I was including him aswell.I agree...you should tell that to @Lighty269 who SHOULDNT have started thread in public fashion but could and did...Its everyone elses fault but his.
