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Never needed to do a PayPal dispute before. I submitted the dispute with my 'message to the seller'. It said it will automatically be closed on Dec. 23rd. It said I could escalate a 'Claim' which would be reviewed and decided upon by PayPal. Do I need to do that too?
I would do it right now!!!!
 

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I guess he pimps out his GF too
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Wow! I wonder how many people on this forum and others got ripped off my this guy!

BTW-when I hit reviews of outtervapes.com on google it shows this thread. However, at first glance the tittle of the thread is not alarming.
On that link The ripoffreport the guy is doing credit card scams
 

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3150 Sandy Ridge Drive
Clearwater, FL 33761
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Owner: JOHN MARTIN & COLLEEN MARTIN
Total buildings value: $169,189
Total land value: $73,732
Total extra features value: $21,119
Market value for property: $264,041
Millage rate: 21.4949
The amount of taxes assessed for this parcel: $5,675
Parcel type: Residential
Assessments for tax year: 2014
Building type: Single Family
Foundation: Continuous Footing
Floor system: Slab On Grade
Number of stories in the building: 1
The number of living units: 1
Quality factor for this building: Above Average
Gross area of the building: 3,826 square feet
Year property was built: 1980
Effective age: 21 years
Heating: Central Duct
Cooling type: Cooling (Central)
Size of the land given in width by hength: 110x137 feet
Land's use: Single Family
Land's use according to the future land use plan: RU - Residential Urban

Sales:
  • Sale date: 01/08/1990
    Price: $187,000
    Vacant or improved sale: Improved
    Old owner: ALSTON R ELLIS
    New owner: GREGORY P COPPOLA
  • Sale date: 05/09/1994
    Price: $187,000
    Vacant or improved sale: Improved
    Old owner: GREGORY P COPPOLA
    New owner: JEFFREY W HENSLEY
  • Sale date: 08/31/1998
    Price: $205,000
    Vacant or improved sale: Improved
    Old owner: JEFFREY W HENSLEY
    New owner: JOHN MARTIN

Extra features:
  • Description of the extra feature: Enclosure
    Value of the extra feature: $10,350
    Year extra feature was added to the roll: 1998
  • Description of the extra feature: Patio/Deck
    Value of the extra feature: $1,050
    Year extra feature was added to the roll: 1998
  • Description of the extra feature: Pool
    Value of the extra feature: $24,000
    Year extra feature was added to the roll: 1998
  • Description of the extra feature: Fireplace
    Value of the extra feature: $5,000
    Year extra feature was added to the roll: 1980

Read more: http://www.city-data.com/pinellas-county/S/Sandy-Ridge-Drive-1.html#ixzz3KxGkruPE
 

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Ok my thoughts and gut feeling ..I think he is in FL but he has a connection in Toms River NJ... maybe some poor sod who has fallen for he's get rich quick scams or someone in with it
 

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3150 Sandy Ridge Drive
Clearwater, FL 33761
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Owner: JOHN MARTIN & COLLEEN MARTIN
Total buildings value: $169,189
Total land value: $73,732
Total extra features value: $21,119
Market value for property: $264,041
Millage rate: 21.4949
The amount of taxes assessed for this parcel: $5,675
Parcel type: Residential
Assessments for tax year: 2014
Building type: Single Family
Foundation: Continuous Footing
Floor system: Slab On Grade
Number of stories in the building: 1
The number of living units: 1
Quality factor for this building: Above Average
Gross area of the building: 3,826 square feet
Year property was built: 1980
Effective age: 21 years
Heating: Central Duct
Cooling type: Cooling (Central)
Size of the land given in width by hength: 110x137 feet
Land's use: Single Family
Land's use according to the future land use plan: RU - Residential Urban

Sales:
  • Sale date: 01/08/1990
    Price: $187,000
    Vacant or improved sale: Improved
    Old owner: ALSTON R ELLIS
    New owner: GREGORY P COPPOLA
  • Sale date: 05/09/1994
    Price: $187,000
    Vacant or improved sale: Improved
    Old owner: GREGORY P COPPOLA
    New owner: JEFFREY W HENSLEY
  • Sale date: 08/31/1998
    Price: $205,000
    Vacant or improved sale: Improved
    Old owner: JEFFREY W HENSLEY
    New owner: JOHN MARTIN

Extra features:
  • Description of the extra feature: Enclosure
    Value of the extra feature: $10,350
    Year extra feature was added to the roll: 1998
  • Description of the extra feature: Patio/Deck
    Value of the extra feature: $1,050
    Year extra feature was added to the roll: 1998
  • Description of the extra feature: Pool
    Value of the extra feature: $24,000
    Year extra feature was added to the roll: 1998
  • Description of the extra feature: Fireplace
    Value of the extra feature: $5,000
    Year extra feature was added to the roll: 1980

Read more: http://www.city-data.com/pinellas-county/S/Sandy-Ridge-Drive-1.html#ixzz3KxGkruPE
3150 sandy ridge drive
Clearwater, FL 33761 - View Map
Phone: (727) 743-2101
Email: [email protected]

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I hope anything here I found helps you get your money back or anyone that gets scammed by this guy and comes across this thread...Good luck!!
 

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Regretfully I'm one that got ripped off. My only question is why hasn't this bastard been arrested yet??
 

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Regretfully I'm one that got ripped off. My only question is why hasn't this bastard been arrested yet??
You need to report him and do the legwork with follow ups to make it easier..
 

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Regretfully I'm one that got ripped off. My only question is why hasn't this bastard been arrested yet??
Did you use PP?..If you used a CC call them..on that ripoffreport someone said he was using there card but that was with a different scam company he has...Poor guy lost $1508.82
 

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Admins and Mods can you change the title of this thread to "outtervapes" and "Vapor Union Wholesales" so it will come up in Search engines everywhere so it will give the rest of the vaping community a heads up on this cunt scum bag
 

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I just got off the phone to the person who got ripped off on the ripoffreport...John Martain has been arrested but this thing is really big...They might be coming on here and talk about it...The more people who report it the more time he will do
 

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I used pay pal. It was charged under the name Robert Allen. Was everyone else charged by the same name?
 
I also used PayPal and the name was Robert Allen. I opened a dispute through PayPal yesterday but I think it may be time to escalate to "claim".
 

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@No Ash More Cash, I may gave to pull some of those links off of here, some contain non-forum allowed content, now I understand why you wanted pm's

LMAO
Yeah, my work browsing history looks pretty questionable today!:eek:
 

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This guy screwed with the wrong group of people! Don't mess with Vapers!!!
 

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I used pay pal. It was charged under the name Robert Allen. Was everyone else charged by the same name?
I also used PayPal and the name was Robert Allen. I opened a dispute through PayPal yesterday but I think it may be time to escalate to "claim".
At this point PP will say let's wait... Fuck that just call the bank... they will do shit right away...Been there did that when PP told me to wait
 

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Did you use PP?..If you used a CC call them..on that ripoffreport someone said he was using there card but that was with a different scam company he has...Poor guy lost $1508.82
Actually, they wire transferred it to them.. dumbest move to make, ever..
 

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Unfortunately do not expect to receive your orders, John Martin has been arrested as of Nov 26th, if you were ripped off like we were please go to https://www.facebook.com/vapefraudalerts.com and tell us your information. We want all the juice we can get on this guy! Thanks NO Ash More Cash for the heads up on your thread!
Glad you made it here :)... I just sent you a Email from your site with a link here and asking you for that site you was telling me about
 

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Unfortunately do not expect to receive your orders, John Martin has been arrested as of Nov 26th, if you were ripped off like we were please go to https://www.facebook.com/vapefraudalerts.com and tell us your information. We want all the juice we can get on this guy! Thanks NO Ash More Cash for the heads up on your thread!
The link is broken...This isn't my thread...I'm just trying to help people out
 

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He luckily only got me for $1.94 with that whole $10 off deal. But then I got another offer for $10 off and I was going to order again but thankfully I restrained myself. I pray somebody makes him their bitch!!
 
Actually, they wire transferred it to them.. dumbest move to make, ever..
With the deals this guy was quoting it was a hard deal to pass up, if it had been true, it would have been wonderful for our B&M. Trust me our stomach's were in our throats at the thought of a wire transfer. We had covered all our bases and checked into everything we have ever looked at and no red flags started waving, just our guts. Sometimes you have to take a leap of faith and go with it, you will either get burned or touch the sky. Everything happens for a reason, we just have found the reason yet! Maybe it was to meet you wonderful people! ;)
 

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With the deals this guy was quoting it was a hard deal to pass up, if it had been true, it would have been wonderful for our B&M. Trust me our stomach's were in our throats at the thought of a wire transfer. We had covered all our bases and checked into everything we have ever looked at and no red flags started waving, just our guts. Sometimes you have to take a leap of faith and go with it, you will either get burned or touch the sky. Everything happens for a reason, we just have found the reason yet! Maybe it was to meet you wonderful people! ;)
Like I said on the phone I could have emailed but you don't know me from Adam..plus I'm a lot better on a phone then In type...I have a tad of the Dyslexia and may of come off more crazy then I'm actually am :confused:
 

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Like I said on the phone I could have emailed but you don't know me from Adam..plus I'm a lot better on a phone then In type...I have a tad of the Dyslexia and may of come off more crazy then I'm actually am :confused:
Just a little more... :D
 

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Just a little more... :D
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Aren't we all a little crazy! Thanks for the call, I appreciate it! They did mess with the wrong group of people, we will vape together and stand together!
Well I wish it was under better circumstances but welcome to the board:)
 
He claimed to have 3 warehouses, and could ship product in a day. One in NJ, FL & i think KS not sure on the third one.
 

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PayPal says they are going to wait until Dec 14 for this scum bag to respond before they review the claim again. Apparently the words scam and fraud don't make the process any faster
 

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PayPal says they are going to wait until Dec 14 for this scum bag to respond before they review the claim again. Apparently the words scam and fraud don't make the process any faster
I said they will say "wait"...Just call you bank it will be taken care of right away...Trust me I have done it a few times...Also report it to the cops ( it is wire fraud) or go to the Link Vaper Baby posted... The more people reporting this guy the longer he will get
 
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He claimed to have 3 warehouses, and could ship product in a day. One in NJ, FL & i think KS not sure on the third one.
I don't think he is working alone...Why would you make a Craigslist AD from FL for a NJ job and by the looks of it meet for a interview in NJ
 

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