APIWATW Challenge- Closes 01/31/2019 (15 Prizes Available)

[KingPin!]

Well someone else will have to guess that and reread. My turn is over but again for anyone else joining. A wrap count is mandatory.

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Don’t be discouraged mate this one is hard I’ll be honest I didn’t spot some of them either ...meg was a beast at this she smashed through it

you can still post mate it’s only the guess at the full list that’s limited to once a day

How we are doing this one is...if you help people with the missing entries your name gets entered (but maximum of once per round) even if there are a few you helped identify

Whoever puts the full list together gets multiple entries so it’s worth a little more to get the full list

does that make it clearer?

 

[MrMeowgi]

Don’t be discouraged mate this one is hard I’ll be honest I didn’t spot some of them either ...meg was a beast at this she smashed through it

you can still post mate it’s only the guess at the full list that’s limited to once a day

How we are doing this one is...if you help people with the missing entries you’ll name gets entered (but maximum of once per round) even if there are a few you helped identify

Whoever puts the full list together gets multiple entries so it’s worth a little more to get the full list

does that make it clearer?

No sorry wasn't trying to be snappy. Wife was yelling at me when I replied. Lol

 

[MrMeowgi]

But anywho. As Socal mentioned the wrap numbers are different. One 9wrap one 11wrap. Looks to me they're all mounted on the positive posts.

 

[KingPin!]

Just to confirm we are looking for two more issues to complete this round - read back through the post submissions so far peeps these missing entries have been listed already just not presented in the full list form

If you haven’t been today pick out what you think is missing from the posts above and complete this bad boy

Issues
1. Shorts everywhere. There is one on the posts and (continued in 2) (So619Cal)
2. (cont) diameters of the coils will short on the chimney. (So619Cal)
3. OG NC is series only (So619Cal) mech
4. RDA has no protruding 510 pin, not meant for hybrid style device (So619Cal and Wtmke1)
5. Mismatched Batteries- One is a VTC5a and one is a VTC6 (Choderfett)
6.
7.

There are also a couple of subjective issues:
1. Nic Sick like a mofo (Masrock)
2. Coil Diameter too small for Series (So619Cal)

 

[Just Frank]

I don't think I'm very good at this. I don't use mechs or RDAs that often. But, there are some obvious things that I didn't see. Maybe I wasn't trying hard but things were right in front of my face! I'll keep checking back but like I said, I pretty much suck at this.

 

[MrMeowgi]

I don't think I'm very good at this. I don't use mechs or RDAs that often. But, there are some obvious things that I didn't see. Maybe I wasn't trying hard but things were right in front of my face! I'll keep checking back but like I said, I pretty much suck at this.

I suck at this too. Lol but every set of eyes helps

 

[~Don~]

I don't see the screws for the bottom plate, so in essence its just wouldn't work all to well.

 

[KingPin!]

I don't think I'm very good at this. I don't use mechs or RDAs that often. But, there are some obvious things that I didn't see. Maybe I wasn't trying hard but things were right in front of my face! I'll keep checking back but like I said, I pretty much suck at this.

By the end of the challenge it’ll get much easier if we stick with it, then everyone will be spotting issues left right and centre ...it’s a good yardstick to gauge how easy it is to spot safety hazards and we all get something from it

Nothing stopping people using regulated mods and other sets up this month...this one is just to get us started

 

[jwill]

Issues
1. Shorts everywhere. There is one on the posts and (continued in 2) (So619Cal)
2. (cont) diameters of the coils will short on the chimney. (So619Cal)
3. OG NC is series only (So619Cal) mech
4. RDA has no protruding 510 pin, not meant for hybrid style device (So619Cal and Wtmke1)
5. Mismatched Batteries- One is a VTC5a and one is a VTC6 (Choderfett)
6. Not the same number of wraps on coils (Wtmke1) SoCal gave yall this one.
7.

There are also a couple of subjective issues:
1. Nic Sick like a mofo (Masrock)
2. Coil Diameter too small for Series (So619Cal)


One more to go. What is the recommended minimum ohms for almost every series device ever created, think Hexohm? Give us the the recommended minimum ohm and you will get in the roll.

 

[MrMeowgi]

.15 ohms is too low for series. Well for me any. I know one person that would vape that low. Butttttttt

 

[Vape Fan]

.2 ohms

 

[Vape Fan]

Oh..I think its .25 actually. If someone wants to use that. Wismec has it.

 

[~Don~]

Minimum is solely based on the batteries...using a run of the mill “average” is moot.




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[~Don~]

Also, comparing a Hex and a Series Mech is bad... only similarities are they are in series, but one is 8.4v unregulated and the other is 3-6v protected

 

[jwill]

Also, comparing a Hex and a Series Mech is bad... only similarities are they are in series, but one is 8.4v unregulated and the other is 3-6v protected

Was trying to make it easy to close this one since I knew they stated their recommended minimum on their description.

 

[jwill]

Issues
1. Shorts everywhere. There is one on the posts and (continued in 2) (So619Cal)
2. (cont) diameters of the coils will short on the chimney. (So619Cal)
3. OG NC is series only (So619Cal) mech
4. RDA has no protruding 510 pin, not meant for hybrid style device (So619Cal and Wtmke1)
5. Mismatched Batteries- One is a VTC5a and one is a VTC6 (Choderfett)
6. Not the same number of wraps on coils (Wtmke1) SoCal gave yall this one.
7. Too low for Series (Vape Fan, Wtmke1) + assist for So619Cal for actually giving everyone the answer

There are also a couple of subjective issues:
1. Nic Sick like a mofo (Masrock)
2. Coil Diameter too small for Series (So619Cal)


This build is essentially a bomb. Unregulated series mech, mismatched batteries with a non protruding pin on a hybrid style device. If it somehow didnt vent out when you first hit the switch; the shorts would cause it to vent.

Say by some miracle of god this whole setup worked, the super high nic content would probably make you sick and the super thin wire would probably melt.

The spirit of this challenge is to be able to identify troubles. We see this all the time in the forum. New people coming in with some pretty sketchy builds and training your eyes to look for faults benefits everyone. Hopefully now that everyone sees kind of how this goes it will be easier to hedge your bets and work through the challenges. You are welcome to guess the whole thing if you do it in one roll and you can only do that once per day. There are points for assisting and you can help to your hearts content.

If you want to see what too low of a build can do in series mech, watch this. I made this video for a friend who was convinced he wanted to get down around .08 on a series mod. 1 second is all it takes.

 

[jwill]

APIWATW





APIWATW #2

Build:
Innokin MVP 20W
Smok TFV8 w/RBA kit
Coils- Dual 2 X 28g NI 80 claptons wrapped in 38g NI80 3.5mm ID @ .11 ohms
Vanilla Whip’d 6mg E-liquid
Jellyfish Cotton


Issues:
1.
2.
3.

Subjective:
None listed (although there are some)

 

[~Don~]

So much is wrong with that picture lol... I hate you all in a friendly OCD'ish way

This months challenge might be unhealthy for me LOL

 

[MrMeowgi]

Hell I think I have all 3 on this one suprisingly

 

[f1r3b1rd]

So much is wrong with that picture lol... I hate you all in a friendly OCD'ish way

This months challenge might be unhealthy for me LOL

Don’t make yourself go boom

 

[jwill]

So much is wrong with that picture lol... I hate you all in a friendly OCD'ish way

This months challenge might be unhealthy for me LOL

So you are saying you wouldnt vape that?

 

[MrMeowgi]

The juice looks sweet

 

[jwill]

The juice looks sweet

It is, but its pretty good. I wouldnt buy it again or anything, but its nice for one bottle.

 

[Just Frank]

Why is that tank so cloudy in the first pic? That mod doesn't exactly deliver a lot of power.

 

[jwill]

Why is that tank so cloudy in the first pic? That mod doesn't exactly deliver a lot of power.

It had just been through a bath. Just cloudy glass.

 

[Letitia9]

Hell I think I have all 3 on this one suprisingly

Since it's a different thingy you can post your list. The 24 hour is per thingy only.

 

[MrMeowgi]

Since it's a different thingy you can post your list. The 24 hour is per thingy only.

Oh ok.
1. Left coil is touching the airflow hole
2. 20 watts isn't enough power for a .11 build.
3. The mod has a minimum rating for 1.0 ohms

 

[Vape Fan]

2 leads in one post hole.
Edit: I think i see a lead at the bottom post hole of the r/h coil now

 

[~Don~]

Do any of you build coils?

I ask cause the specs don't come close to the Ω given

 

[Letitia9]

Oh ok.
1. Left coil is touching the airflow hole
2. 20 watts isn't enough power for a .11 build.
3. The mod has a minimum rating for 1.0 ohms

@jwill

 

[Letitia9]

Oh ok.
1. Left coil is touching the airflow hole
2. 20 watts isn't enough power for a .11 build.
3. The mod has a minimum rating for 1.0 ohms

Found jwill's list, looks like you nailed the three he was looking for.

Have a post ready?

 

[jwill]

We have his. Nice work @Wtmke1

 

[jwill]

APIWATW #3

Build info:
Desire Cut Squonk
Wotofo Profile with Kanthal A1 Mesh Coil @.18
Ijoy 3000mah 20700 battery
TC mode
45 Joules @490 degrees Celsius
9mg DIY Nic Salt


Issues:
1.
2
3.

Subjective:
1.


Many Thanks @Wtmke1 for this one.

 

[MrMeowgi]

We have his. Nice work @Wtmke1

Thanks. But yeah the others I didn't notice. Socal is right though. I counted 5 wraps at .23ohms. and leg does look double stuffed in the posthole.

 

[jwill]

Thanks. But yeah the others I didn't notice. Socal is right though. I counted 5 wraps at .23ohms. and leg does look double stuffed in the posthole.

We may purposely leave some out. Buys us time and keeps you guessing.

 

[~Don~]

490c LOL

 

[~Don~]

Not sure I want to explain joules, but for the sake of argument, 5 sec draw @ 45 Joule is only 9w approximate lol

 

[MrMeowgi]

May be understanding this wrong but 1J per second equals 1 watt. In TC it's about equal to 45 watts. It's how fast it takes to reach desired temp. But I'm sure you know more about it than me. Hell this setup may be all wrong.

 

[~Don~]

something is 10mm off I think

 

[~Don~]

May be understanding this wrong but 1J per second equals 1 watt. In TC it's about equal to 45 watts. It's how fast it takes to reach desired temp. But I'm sure you know more about it than me. Hell this setup may be all wrong.

agreed... as far as I know, joule is just energy (Constant) since we don't vape in a constant manner, you give the time you vape at such energy (my 5 seconds) and divide that into the 45J (Constant) and it equates to 9w of power...

It has been a long time since I studied this, and I really could be talking out my ass lol

But that 490c LOL (914f)

 

[MrMeowgi]

agreed... as far as I know, joule is just energy (Constant) since we don't vape in a constant manner, you give the time you vape at such energy (my 5 seconds) and divide that into the 45J (Constant) and it equates to 9w of power...

It has been a long time since I studied this, and I really could be talking out my ass lol

But that 490c LOL (914f)

I like it hot like in a jungle

 

[Vape Fan]

Battery wrap is damaged.
Juice ring on the mod, unless its a protector.

 

[MrMeowgi]

It's a protector. But correct on the other.

 

[Vape Fan]

I don't know much about nic salt, but isn't 9mg kinda high for .18Ω ?
...nm

 

[Letitia9]

I don't know much about nic salt, but isn't 9mg kinda high for .18Ω ?
...nm

I mix with salts and would probably mix 5mg for a dual build. 8-9mg for my go to single coils at around 23-30w, .25-.4 resistance.

 

[~Don~]

I also mix with salts, 9mg and 36mg 40/60(PG-VG).. depending on the device... Mini Mechs+RTAs 9mg... Aspire AIO 36mg

Squonks, normal 3mg 30/70

 

[Letitia9]

Morning all. Who's ready to give us a list and post the next "what the hell" mess?

 

[jwill]

APIWATW #3

Build info:
Desire Cut Squonk
Wotofo Profile with Kanthal A1 Mesh Coil @.18
Ijoy 3000mah 20700 battery
TC mode
45 Joules @490 degrees Celsius
9mg DIY Nic Salt


Issues:
1. Torn Battery (Vapefan)
2
3.

Subjective:
1. Nic Sick 9mg Salts at sub ohm (Vape fan)

Sorry for disappearing last night. I took some allergy medicine that put me in weird dream world.

 

[Jinx'd]

ahhh yes. yet another contest I have NO CHANCE of winning ...........

 

[jwill]

ahhh yes. yet another contest I have NO CHANCE of winning ...........

I disagree. You have every chance of winning. Look for problems, guess the problems and win. The remaining issues for this one have been nodded at.