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Got it from that movie
GODS NOT DEAD
Ya seen that...it's horrible and generally not a great source......for anything ever. Seriously feeling like leg pulling
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This is what I don't get. Why is there a burden of proof to "prove God"? Who cares if you don't believe in God? It's not my problem! I could give a flip what anyone believes or doesn't believe! You say "prove it." I say "Have a nice day."
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I'm not messing up anything of yours.Your argument is messed up to begin with.I will not be held responsible for your lack of logic or reasoning.
You seem to not even understand what you say you believe.So I'll give you some advice...Simplify.Justify.
Before anybody gets the idea that I'm an atheist/agnostic let me clear.I do in fact believe in God...Cheers!
Ahh yes but one does not have to belong to a group to not believe in a supreme being.
Just like you do not have to belong to a group to believe in a supreme being.
Well there is polite day to day conversation mode.... If you personally believe in a god, well ok. I think it's silly, I think your family and society taught you this and that it is what you know... but that ok and its not harming me ...so no really doesn't make a difference. I'm more then happy to walk or just be friends as is...we dont talk about that kinda thing.
Then there is politics....and it does make a difference as many theist would be very happy to make lot of changes to are not theist society basic on religion.(I do remember you but dont know your stance on this kinda thing) And as a lot of the middle east is a great modern example of such...I'd rather the US did not go the same way.
Third is when a belief in god is declared scientific Fact...that is a step up. And yes at that point one needs to actually back such a statement up with some data.
But as there is no data,despite centuries of trying...) is kinda the problem.
I can tell you all day I own unicorns..they drink out of the kio pond in my backyard....at what point do you demand evidence?
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I never said that one does...Cheers!
imho believe however you want as long as it does not impact me and my beliefs or non beliefs as the case may be.
There are fine folks in most all religions. there are also assholes in most all religions.
It is up to the individual to live the way they choose, good person or asshole.
Their choice.
There are fine folks in most all religions. there are also assholes in most all religions.
It is up to the individual to live the way they choose, good person or asshole.
Their choice.
did not read all the posts but that seemed to be a drift in the conversation.
Not accusing you at all.
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I'm right there with ya, on both the political issue -- our Constitution specifically calls for separation of church and state, and I will support that idea till my dying breath -- and about religious claims about unlikely things, The Virgin Mary's face on toast and suchlike. It just gives me an eyeroll.
But my beliefs are the ones I arrived at my own; my family are all thoroughly brainwashed xtians, who try as often as possible to "bring me back", which is assuredly NOT happening.
I'd as soon believe in Santa and the Tooth Fairy and the Easter Bunny too, as I'd believe in a "personal" god -- to me it's mythology and fairy tales, which some people seem to require to get thru their day, but I don't. I suppose if I had to give a name to my beliefs, it would be "free thinker" -- no dogma permitted in this brain -- many things are possible... if not terribly likely. Andria
It really only becomes "prove it", when someone is proselytizing and claiming to have the answers, or claiming YOUR answers are wrong and THEIRS is right. I am not atheist (I am closer to agnostic, though that doesn't exactly fit me either), but I understand their position, and it is largely the one I take when the Jehovah's witnesses come knocking.
I think you have a misunderstanding of the word belief, so let me help you out there.Theist society??? Where did you get that?
'Scuse me there post 666those fucktard antagonists who
unnecessarily and frequently declare their own beliefs as fact insist upon publicly mocking those of faith... those
so convinced of their atheist superiority that they're qualified to judge and provoke, in public spectacle....
Your ignorance is clear in in a single word... belief. I'll be happy to help you with that...
To put it in the passive aggressive terms you seem to favor, belief is what you have in "science".
Faith is something you won't understand.
Jus' thought I'd drop that in since I couldn't help but notice no Christians had attacked your beliefs. (lack of faith)
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/belief
You don't "have belief in science", as science is not a belief system, full stop.
3.
Confidence; faith; trust
Confidence; faith; trust
Not actually true. By the time the US entered the European war the tide had already turned. The combined force of the Russians and Commonwealth were winning. The US entry just shortened the war by a couple of years. Every legitimate historian in the world agrees Hitler lost the war by entering Russia in the winter. And no, I'm not from England.
That would classify you as a weak atheist.
- Strong theist. 100 per cent probability of God. In the words of C.G. Jung: "I do not believe, I know."
- De facto theist. Very high probability but short of 100 per cent. "I don't know for certain, but I strongly believe in God and live my life on the assumption that he is there."
- Leaning towards theism. Higher than 50 per cent but not very high. "I am very uncertain, but I am inclined to believe in God."
- Completely impartial. Exactly 50 per cent. "God's existence and non-existence are exactly equiprobable."
- Leaning towards atheism. Lower than 50 per cent but not very low. "I do not know whether God exists but I'm inclined to be skeptical."
- De facto atheist. Very low probability, but short of zero. "I don't know for certain but I think God is very improbable, and I live my life on the assumption that he is not there."
- Strong atheist. "I know there is no God, with the same conviction as Jung knows there is one."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectrum_of_theistic_probability
We did not do it!You all are wrong...........It was Aliens
Everyone blames everything on us....
I don't know any atheists who say they know there is NO god. They say they do not believe there is, but should evidence be shown, are willing to accept. So far, no evidence. But we cannot prove a negative. If God is a fact, then evidence for that fact need be shown. I can only speak from my own convictions and those of people I know.
I wonder if a VA house purchase that went from contract signing to closing in 26 days would convince them... After all, the fed gov't is involved.
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Now that just might work!!!
Nice direct wiki quote.
Yet nowhere in that did I see what you say you actually believe.Time to fess up you're just taking the piss out of us.
That's fine. As long as you stoop and scoop. And don't let them poop all over the neighbour's lawn.
Gotta say, I've never in my life heard an atheist run about spouting their beliefs unprompted. They tend to only speak in reaction. Otherwise they just plug through the day.
Seriously. Who actually runs around volunteering what they don't believe in without being asked.
Imagine sitting at a bus stop and the guy beside you looks at you and says "I don't believe in God". That's not sn atheist. That's just some crazy dude dude.
Unless somebody smoking a cigarette at the other end of the bus stop just announced "I am God"
Someone said there was an atheist revival?
Well, I just couldn't pass that up.
I brought cake...
Well, I just couldn't pass that up.
I brought cake...
Oh shit TRIGGER WARNING>>>TRIGGER WARNING>>>>>my safe space has been violated.Someone said there was an atheist revival?
Well, I just couldn't pass that up.
I brought cake...
WtfSomeone said there was an atheist revival?
Well, I just couldn't pass that up.
I brought cake...
I know youSomeone said there was an atheist revival?
Well, I just couldn't pass that up.
I brought cake...
Well, I can't tell you how glad I am to know you found me.
You have no idea how long I have been asking myself 'who are you?'
You have no idea how long I have been asking myself 'who are you?'
Don't watch "High Plains Drifter" or "Pale Rider". You won't be any closer.
So much wasted effort building that straw man.
Look, we know you hate atheists. That's your prerogative. But if you're going to challenge someone to a debate about it at least consider making a legitimate argument.
Exactly. Doesn't believe in =/= believes there isn't.
I'll play.
I'd probably pick more than one, but;
Ummmmm, I'll go for number 2?
Mother Theresa.
I mean, that's a little loony to go through life asking others to believe in something that, I myself, don't even believe in, with no scientific backing.
I'd probably pick more than one, but;
Ummmmm, I'll go for number 2?
Mother Theresa.
I mean, that's a little loony to go through life asking others to believe in something that, I myself, don't even believe in, with no scientific backing.
.Can you spot the loony with no "scientific proof" to back up their insane claims??????
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The New Testament is pretty clear. Know God in your heart. That means it's a personal thing. It doesn't come from theists and atheists pounding it into you. You have it or you don't.
Therefore there is no right or wrong answer. Your diety comes to your in your own way.
Therefore there is no right or wrong answer. Your diety comes to your in your own way.
OK we got one person for number 2...who's next.I'll play.
I'd probably pick more than one, but;
Ummmmm, I'll go for number 2?
Mother Theresa.
I mean, that's a little loony to go through life asking others to believe in something that, I myself, don't even believe in, with no scientific backing.
If no one else plays, do I automatically win?
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