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f1r3b1rd said:
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roxynoodle said:
So what do I do about the current ecf developments? Obviously they didn't follow through with the ultimatum of closing my account, and turned me into a vendor anyway :( Just Thursday SJ told a good friend he doesn't believe me. So they think I'm dishonest. They stripped my verified status and made me a vendor. And I haven't been allowed to have any communication whatsoever.

Should I pull a Vesuvious so they have to ban me?

Should I ignore this altogether and continue taking the high road?
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So IMHO gurly you should move along the road you're on & forget about what they're doing or what they've done! From my perspective the amount of worry you're having about them is like they're owning you without really doing anything! As a matter of fact I've let them own me by consuming so much of my posts & time! Kinda like Rip owns all those assholes who won't let it go! For me it's time to move on! I've found a new home with friends old and new & I am really enjoying it! Although I'll miss some that I know there, I am looking forward to meeting new people here! Fuck them all Roxy they aren't worth! You're true friends have followed you here!

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AndriaD said:
I have to ask.. just what the fuck is your problem? Have you ever heard the expression "talking to a brick wall"? That's what trying to "talk to them" is like.. EXACTLY like that. Now if you really think they're so fucking awesome, WHY DON'T GO RIGHT BACK OVER THERE AND STAY THE FUCK OUT OF HERE?

Geez.

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HAHAHAHA!!!! Spot on, really, Andria, Talk to WHOM, exactly? There is only one voice right now on ECF, with regards to all this. The moderators aren't touching this shit with a 10' pole. So that leaves Oliver himself. It may be his forum, and the advertisers might pay the bills, but we aren't stupid. They aren't paying a DAMN thing, if they don't have an audience to play to. WE HAVE POWER! We are the intended audience, and if the air stinks, we can walk out of the room, and the advertisers won't like playing to an empty room!

THREE WEEKS almost. And in all that time, the solution they come to, is a PM and a new bracket of supplier. WHAT IS NOT CLEAR ABOUT SHE WAS MAKING NOTHING?!? What about what she has done, precludes getting her full regular, verified member status back?

Well, Roxy is here now, and has made it clear she isn't checking PM's, isn't interested in any kind of supplier bracket. So I guess that puts the ball in THEIR court, not Roxy's. So I have a suggestion. It seems right that Roxy doesn't feel comfortable at this point, going onto THAT ground to discuss it. Sounds darn reasonable to me. How about, if Oliver comes over HERE, where his Supplier Staff drove her off to, where he failed to lure her back from with the quick, appropriate reaction that would have made sense. Which of course, would have been restoring that thread, giving her back her full regular verified member status, and apologizing for the knee jerk threat to her participation and contributions.

Oh, it would be rather lovely to have a conversation here, with the rules of moderation that exist HERE, with an audience of people who feel a lot like Roxy about the treatment they got over there. Now THAT would take a MAN. A humble, contrite, putting the interests of vaping and harmony ahead of his own, MAN. I'd love to see it. I can't imagine Roxy being impressed by anything less.
 
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Well of course my own reasons for leaving had nothing to do with Roxy, coming some 6-ish wks before the whole Roxy Ain't A Vendor debacle.... but what I ran into, that "brick wall" phenomenon, is just emblematic of the whole problem of ECF -- no supervision for the supervisors. Even cops have internal affairs, but none of that for ECF moderators, no sir, they're perfect, they never make mistakes, and their shit doesn't stink! :rolleyes: They make all kinds of mistakes in their moderation, but do they ever own up to it? No sirree! IT'S LIKE TALKING TO A FUCKING BRICK WALL!

Got no use for that sort of fascism whatsofuckingever. I totally get the problem Roxy faced, because anyone who ever got banned or suspended for something totally imaginary has faced the exact same thing! And they're still engaged in trying to "CYA" even when it's completely off the rails, Roxy's gone and ain't coming back. Idiots. They DESERVE to lose their market share, for being such fucking morons.

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I'm not a refugee in the sense that many of you are. I only had one poor experience with a moderator at the beginning of my ECF membership ( been there since 2009) when I was new to forums and posting rules. It was unnecessary and could have resolved with a quick PM. The atmosphere is certainly changing there and I see a lot of the names that I recognize being treated pretty poorly. I only post in one or two threads over there these days and new posts aren't frequent. I think I'll like it here.
 
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firechick said:
I'm not a refugee in the sense that many of you are. I only had one poor experience with a moderator at the beginning of my ECF membership ( been there since 2009) when I was new to forums and posting rules. It was unnecessary and could have resolved with a quick PM. The atmosphere is certainly changing there and I see a lot of the names that I recognize being treated pretty poorly. I only post in one or two threads over there these days and new posts aren't frequent. I think I'll like it here.
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roxynoodle said:
So what do I do about the current ecf developments? Obviously they didn't follow through with the ultimatum of closing my account, and turned me into a vendor anyway :( Just Thursday SJ told a good friend he doesn't believe me. So they think I'm dishonest. They stripped my verified status and made me a vendor. And I haven't been allowed to have any communication whatsoever.

Should I pull a Vesuvious so they have to ban me?

Should I ignore this altogether and continue taking the high road?
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@roxynoodle

I just scanned the last few pages. Looks like you're still trying to figure out what to do. Lots of opinions/suggestions.

Let it go. No blaze of glory. No more communication. Here's the main reason why: You have a fall-back place. And it looks like quite a few people followed you here. (Obviously there are details I'm not aware of, so my suggestion is probably close to worthless.)

I know this is driving you crazy... the way they handled it, the way they treated you, the way they treated you compared with similar cases. You're free though. Think ahead a few months. You will pretty much have forgotten that place by then. That's where your long-term mindset is going to be... not the right-now-pissed-off mindset.

And in a few months, you're probably going to be glad you took the high road. You are in the enviable position of being able to stop yourself before you do something negative. Not like this is an election campaign or anything, but still... when has burning a bridge ever led to anything but more useless drama?

I have no idea what I just said.
 
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Vesuvius said:
I made another one. Made it from my iphone though so I don't know if that makes a diff.
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If you connect through your Mobile Internet and not your Home's WiFi it will be completely separate. So if you log in with a different IP, MAC, E-Mail, Name, etc theres no way for anyone to tell. :D
 
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roxynoodle said:
Are they talking about the Nazi video or just making fun of our badges, or both?
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who knows.... I don't think they have a clue themselves.
I gave up trying to figure out an alternate universe
especially when old English spellings are employed.
(behaviour instead of behavior)
 
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Huckleberried said:
I'm tempted to say jealous. They seem to know an awful lot of what's going on here.

LURKERS!! Jump on in, we really are a good group of people. We even vape!
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Yes, and we really don't hate Provaris! They are just mods. They don't do anything bad to anyone. Yes, they allow you to vape!
 
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roxynoodle said:
I think it's funny they think it's about Provari hate. They would think that. They think everyone is out to get Provari owners.
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ive tried so hard to make the point that its the attitude of certain people not the mod.

you would think I was speaking in Klingon.
 
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I'll just leave this here... from the provari radius thread....:mad::mad::mad::mad:View attachment 46921
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"provari hate has mutated into ECF hate" ........um.....no! What the fuck is a Provari? I guess some people are fine with being treated the way the mods and owners treat people over there. Hey even Hitler, Saddam, Kim Jong Un had followers so.................
 
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