Actually there have been a large number of conservatives trying to destroy vaping as well. Our current VP among them, and they don't come much more conservative than Pence. It's really a very non-partisan issue.
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Just an issue of harm reduction. Politics should not be involved.
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I agree - I just see anti-vaperes who are Ds being more vocal and the GOP anti-Vapers sitting mainly sitting back and letting the liberal anti-vapers take the heat. Brilliant strategy that numerous right-leaning vaping sheeple fail to acknowledge
Like making vaccine makers exempt from any product liability?
yep only a couple of right wingers are openly supporting vaping.I agree - I just see anti-vaperes who are Ds being more vocal and the GOP anti-Vapers sitting mainly sitting back and letting the liberal anti-vapers take the heat. Brilliant strategy that numerous right-leaning vaping sheeple fail to acknowledge
Let the other side take the blame for something you want to happen.
One of the oldest political ploys in the world.
All sides can take the blame on being anti vaping. Pence is against it yet the Obama FDA tried to destroy the vaping industry. Does it really matter who is more wrong?
I am one of the deplorables and I vape. Other here are of the same minded. Bob is liberal and vapes. Others agree with Bob.
In a nut shell, so fuckin what. We vape, we enjoy each others company. Thats all that matters.
I am one of the deplorables and I vape. Other here are of the same minded. Bob is liberal and vapes. Others agree with Bob.
In a nut shell, so fuckin what. We vape, we enjoy each others company. Thats all that matters.
Many of us can look beyond a few differences to find commonality and friendship.
No 2 people on earth has ever agreed on everything.
Prezactly!!!
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I figure that being against vaping is a very useful thing for us to know, as it demonstrates VERY clearly exactly where the corruption is -- because only someone totally corrupt could be against such a brilliant cure for smoking.
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I been chewing on this for a few hours and I cant agree with this. Just because someone is anti vaping dont make them corrupt. How many are just plain uninformed, that they seen the BS studies, the Antz propaganda and believed them and now have an opinion based on false data. My ex believes vaping is going to kill me and is bad. Doesnt make her corrupt, just dumb.
Anyone who never vaped, was never an ex smoker doesnt get what we get, that vaping was a life saver to us. That doesnt make them corrupt, just not able to relate to us and grossly uninformed or misinformed.
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Dumb is just as bad as corrupt, at this point -- vaping has been around for about a decade now. Maybe not every "regular person" has had the opportunity to become acquainted with it, but those in any position of leadership have NO excuse -- dumb is as inexcusable in them as corruption is.
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Vaping in my neck of the woods is just now emerging.
I saw another vaper in the wild just last Friday.
I do not know of anyone else besides me within 5 miles of where I live that vapes.
I saw another vaper in the wild just last Friday.
I do not know of anyone else besides me within 5 miles of where I live that vapes.
There we go, coffee for those in need & some 
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A little Sachmo to make the day go.
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Been seeing more and more out my neck o' the wood that vape.
ETA: Revised after a bit of thought & consideration to equanimity.
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Ohh all the moderate sized towns seem to have one now.
closest is 12 miles.
When I started vaping a bit over 2.5 years ago I had never seen a vaper in the wild.
The people at the corner store hangout think I am a bit daft for vaping
They are correct but it is not because of vaping.
The smoking rate is very high around here.
I feel out of place in vape shops.
I am not fat, have no beard or tatoos....
You live in West By God Virginia don't you?
Aka Mountain Mama.
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Ohh all the moderate sized towns seem to have one now.
closest is 12 miles.
When I started vaping a bit over 2.5 years ago I had never seen a vaper in the wild.
The people at the corner store hangout think I am a bit daft for vaping
They are correct but it is not because of vaping.
Well, if there is a vape store 12 miles from you, then there are probably vapers all around that store in every direction, for probably 20 miles -- stores can't exist where they don't have customers.
99% of the population would know for a fact that I am about as weird as they come, since I don't depend on the opinions of other people for ANYTHING... but since I don't, I really don't give a shit. I consider myself a great deal saner than those who have to check with their "friends" to know how to think about anything.
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Yes, home of Don Knotts, where children are taught Readin' Ritin' & Route 21. The last bit so as they know to go out of state to work.
It ain't easy being me.
Wait up for me a bit. I have something to add to that sentiment. I have to check with a friend though.
No, I ain't right but I am sometimes left. Unfortunately for those who come to know me, I never stay left or lost. Although, it might be that I do and do it so much and so well I don't notice. Hm, will need to ponder that now.
yes the state where most all roads go north and south.
It is ok go ahead and replyWait up for me a bit. I have something to add to that sentiment. I have to check with a friend though.
It is ok go ahead and reply
Well okay, if you say so. *grin*
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Wait up for me a bit. I have something to add to that sentiment. I have to check with a friend though.
No, I ain't right but I am sometimes left. Unfortunately for those who come to know me, I never stay left or lost. Although, it might be that I do and do it so much and so well I don't notice. Hm, will need to ponder that now.
I think you're right.
Like me, you're a true original. Andria
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already ate some roast pork and stovetop dressing with some corn.Have some
Not bad.
Now for some Byrers Cherry Vanilla ice cream with hersheys syrup on it.
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Funny, six months ago I'd of been so jealous - now I am sitting her being judgmental about what you are eating
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Funny, six months ago I'd of been so jealous - now I am sitting her being judgmental about what you are eating
I was just thinking... Stovetop's got sulfites, can't eat that. I get Pepperidge Farm stuffing and add my own damn onions and celery, no sulfites needed.
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ETA: Love the HELL out of roast pork though. Unfortunately I can't cook the great pork roasts I used to, when I basted them in beer, and made sour creme gravy from the drippings, with mashed spuds. I could maybe try it with NA beer, but I think the actual alcohol is what tenderizes the meat, and I'm afraid after I finished basting, I'd just drink it.
Dang! Getting juiced up will do that to ya.Funny, six months ago I'd of been so jealous - now I am sitting her being judgmental about what you are eating
Gonna be like a reformed smoker or sinner who got religion?
Ahh the reformist attitude.
I had my fun doing (write previous actions here), i decided to quit so now everyone should quit.
I had my fun doing (write previous actions here), i decided to quit so now everyone should quit.
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Noooooo - never wanna be that fucker
Anyone aspire to get a speedo mod?
Yeah me neither but it does seem to be a basic human behaviour to be fought against.
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Sometimes I think it being judgmental masks jealousy
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Mornin' gang. Fucking rain. But it's payday for a 12-day pay-period, so I'll try to muddle thru.
We watched Thor last night; rented it from Amazon. Apparently it was necessary in the current arc of Marvel movies, and I've seen Iron Man and Capt America; still gotta see The Hulk to be up-to-date and go on to the various nexts. Surprised to find Coulson in it; that fucker gets into everything.
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But it's payday for a 12-day pay-period, so I'll try to muddle thru.We watched Thor last night; rented it from Amazon. Apparently it was necessary in the current arc of Marvel movies, and I've seen Iron Man and Capt America; still gotta see The Hulk to be up-to-date and go on to the various nexts. Surprised to find Coulson in it; that fucker gets into everything.
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yes I agree.
oops but that was judgemental of me.
Any way the reformists are jealous of those who still do what they once did.
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A little bit. I do kinda envy those who can drink... at least, I envy them the night before.... they can keep that fucking morning-after shit.
However I don't envy smokers at all; why would I envy anyone who smells like that, who has to waste that much money on poison just to maintain the status quo... no fucking thank you! I think it gets back to motivation: I didn't want to quit drinking, but I had to, if I wanted to keep LIVING. I wanted to be a non-smoker for 3 fucking decades, and finally found a way to do it.Andria
I pretty much agree however smoking is a LOT simpler.A little bit. I do kinda envy those who can drink... at least, I envy them the night before.... they can keep that fucking morning-after shit.
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And I did not plan to quit smoking.
Sneaky assed vaping tricked me!
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Heh, I didn't plan on it either, it was the FURTHEST thing from my mind. But when I discovered what a great substitute it was, I figured I'd have to be a plain damn fool to pass up such a golden opportunity to keep my health and a lot more of our money.
Good thing I didn't know beforehand that vaping would make my asthma symptoms worse, or I might have found a way to justify continuing to smoke. Smokers are top-notch at finding those justifications. Andria
Jus did it for the money saved and SWMBO wanted me to do it.Heh, I didn't plan on it either, it was the FURTHEST thing from my mind. But when I discovered what a great substitute it was, I figured I'd have to be a plain damn fool to pass up such a golden opportunity to keep my health and a lot more of our money.
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She apparently wants to make sure I live longer than her...
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Mainly I just wanted a way to keep my ass indoors when it's really cold or really hot... but the money thing, that was HUGE, I would spend hours every payday wishing I didn't have to reserve 80 fucking dollars for goddamned useless cigarettes, but finding no choice in the matter. I still spend a tiny bit on vaping, but it's just a tiny bit, here and there, since I'm pretty well stocked up -- thanks, FDA!
Now that my son vapes though, he and I will probably go in together on more nicotine, after the current stash is a bit more depleted and there's room in the freezer.
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Same to ya, dear.
I gotta get my son on the right schedule, doing his atty maintenance at night instead of morning; he was having to re-coil this morning 30 mins before he needed to be at school, thx to a hot leg. As I KEEP telling him, ease of maintenance is just one reason I've stuck fast to kanthal -- in 3.5 yrs of vaping, I've had maybe 1 or 2 hot legs... he's had 2, with SS, in the last 2 weeks. Kanthal ain't fancy, but it just WORKS.
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I like Hot Legs.
Speaking of convos....
All this vaping saved my life stuff.... A billion lives saved....
Maybe.....
All this vaping saved my life stuff.... A billion lives saved....
Maybe.....